Oh my goodness. No Fences. Must be the parent's fault. Perhaps they didn't have a dog.
Three year olds can get down from the most unlikely places, especially if they suddenly spot something interesting.
Above are pics of the front and rear of the house. One thing I notice is an almost total absence of fences. How on earth do they keep toddlers in anyway? How did a three-year-old manage to get down from a balcony in any event?
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Above are pics of the front and rear of the house. One thing I notice is an almost total absence of fences. How on earth do they keep toddlers in anyway? Initial report states he and his sister were playing in the garden at the back of the house yet six weeks later he was supposedly last seen on the balcony at the back of the house? Stranger still is the claim his four-year-old sister whom he was playing with has no idea where he went? All very odd!
anna they are looking for his body our australian media have had it on it is very very sad
Was Spiderman-loving William Tyrell abducted and smuggled overseas? Search for toddler goes global.
- NSW Crime Stoppers have urged 26 countries to join the cause
- They're requesting international Crime Stoppers to ask for information
- A plethora of far-reaching countries are expected to jump on board
- It comes after the parents of William Tyrell issued a heartfelt letter
- The letter reveals his beloved Spiderman toys remain untouched
- Detectives searching for William believe he was abducted
- They say abductor 'may have watched' William for hours beforehand
- Police now want to speak to everyone that was in a 1km radius of the home
By John Carney and Emily Crane and Nelson Groom for Daily Mail Australia
Published: 1 March 2015[/list]
Was Spiderman-loving William Tyrell abducted and smuggled overseas? Search for toddler goes global.
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- NSW Crime Stoppers have urged 26 countries to join the cause
- They're requesting international Crime Stoppers to ask for information
- A plethora of far-reaching countries are expected to jump on board
- It comes after the parents of William Tyrell issued a heartfelt letter
- The letter reveals his beloved Spiderman toys remain untouched
- Detectives searching for William believe he was abducted
- They say abductor 'may have watched' William for hours beforehand
- Police now want to speak to everyone that was in a 1km radius of the home
By John Carney and Emily Crane and Nelson Groom for Daily Mail Australia
Published: 1 March 2015
The search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell has taken an international turn, with authorities in dozens of far-reaching countries expected to join the cause.
NSW Crime Stoppers have urged Crime Stoppers websites in 26 countries to post a message about William's abduction last year, urging anybody with information on the case to contact Australian police.
The plea has been sent to places as far-flung as Europe and America, urging them to post articles about three-year-old William, who went missing from his home in grandmother's home on the NSW north coast on September 12, reports the Sunday Telegraph.
NSW Crime Stoppers CEO Peter Price said they're expecting a plethora of further countries to jump on board.
'We're using the global crime stoppers network to broaden the communications appeal relating to his disappearance,' Mr Price said. 'We're hoping that somebody might recognise him.'
While the global call to action may be helpful, NSW Homicide Squad detective Gary Jubelin said there is no evidence to suggest William had been taken overseas.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/21/25A9294800000578-2962818-Clairvoyant_Maggie_said_missing_little_Spiderman_William_Tyrell_-m-4_1424524295529.jpg)
The global campaign comes after the parents of missing three-year-old William issued a heartfelt plea to find their son after he vanished without a trace five months ago.
The Tyrell family issued a heartbreaking letter revealing William's toys remained untouched and that everyday since he disappeared had been a living nightmare.
'We wake up every day hoping this nightmare will be over. We desperately miss William, he's our baby boy; our funny, cheeky, gorgeous boy,' they said.
Read more... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2973401/Search-Spiderman-loving-toddler-William-Tyrell-goes-global.html)
Could anyone explain to me why posters are not claiming...there is no evidence of abduction
I believe that he disappeared from the garden. It is unlikely there is much in the way of clues really.
It is unlikely that fingerprints, hairs, DNA, etc would be found in a garden, but I believe they searched ponds, pipes and similar possible accident zones, near the house. Nobody saw anything either. Another disappear without a trace, case.
absolutely tragic...poor child...just another reminder that we cannot let our precious children out of our sight for a second
I'm glad you posted that Dave. At last you have inadvertently acknowledged that leaving children alone and unattended in a strange hotel was wrong.Does this mean you're going to start ripping into this poor child's parents too? I sincerely hope not.
Does this mean you're going to start ripping into this poor child's parents too? I sincerely hope not.
I'm glad you posted that Dave. At last you have inadvertently acknowledged that leaving children alone and unattended in a strange hotel was wrong.
not inadvertently.....I did exactly the same as the McCanns when I was younger...I certainly would not do it now...the McCanns were naïve...I don't blame them for Maddie's fate... I blame the criminal that took her
I'm glad you posted that Dave. At last you have inadvertently acknowledged that leaving children alone and unattended in a strange hotel was wrong.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/26471337/tyrrell-search-for-evidence-police/
It might be nothing but....bones found. x
Was Spiderman-loving William Tyrell abducted and smuggled overseas? Search for toddler goes global.
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Published: 1 March 2015
By John Carney and Emily Crane and Nelson Groom for Daily Mail Australia[li]Detectives searching for William believe he was abducted[/li]
- NSW Crime Stoppers have urged 26 countries to join the cause
- They're requesting international Crime Stoppers to ask for information
- A plethora of far-reaching countries are expected to jump on board
- It comes after the parents of William Tyrell issued a heartfelt letter
- The letter reveals his beloved Spiderman toys remain untouched
[li]They say abductor 'may have watched' William for hours beforehand[/li][/list] [/color]
- Police now want to speak to everyone that was in a 1km radius of the home
The search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell has taken an international turn, with authorities in dozens of far-reaching countries expected to join the cause.
NSW Crime Stoppers have urged Crime Stoppers websites in 26 countries to post a message about William's abduction last year, urging anybody with information on the case to contact Australian police.
The plea has been sent to places as far-flung as Europe and America, urging them to post articles about three-year-old William, who went missing from his home in grandmother's home on the NSW north coast on September 12, reports the Sunday Telegraph.
NSW Crime Stoppers CEO Peter Price said they're expecting a plethora of further countries to jump on board.
'We're using the global crime stoppers network to broaden the communications appeal relating to his disappearance,' Mr Price said. 'We're hoping that somebody might recognise him.'
While the global call to action may be helpful, NSW Homicide Squad detective Gary Jubelin said there is no evidence to suggest William had been taken overseas.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/21/25A9294800000578-2962818-Clairvoyant_Maggie_said_missing_little_Spiderman_William_Tyrell_-m-4_1424524295529.jpg)
The global campaign comes after the parents of missing three-year-old William issued a heartfelt plea to find their son after he vanished without a trace five months ago.
The Tyrell family issued a heartbreaking letter revealing William's toys remained untouched and that everyday since he disappeared had been a living nightmare.
'We wake up every day hoping this nightmare will be over. We desperately miss William, he's our baby boy; our funny, cheeky, gorgeous boy,' they said.
Read more... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2973401/Search-Spiderman-loving-toddler-William-Tyrell-goes-global.html)
notice our australian police have not said he was abducted for sure? they are open to ALL posibilities
I note it is a homicide squad investigating the case.
They believe abduction is the most likely scenario, but not the only one.
so what other scenarios are they considering and where is your source...and.... WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE FOR ABDUCTION.....
willams parents were not out every night drinking
So where were they when he went missing...why was he on his own
I note it is a homicide squad investigating the case.
They believe abduction is the most likely scenario, but not the only one.
toddlers wander and/or and run away in less then a minute hence why toddlers should NEVER be alone
Reminder for those who might not have realised. This thread concerns William Tyrrell.Why is it in the Madeleine McCann forum then?
If you were on your own and had a toddler / young child, what would you do if you needed to go to the toilet in your own home?
Why is it in the Madeleine McCann forum then?
How about taking the child with you?
And if you have 3 or 4?
I disagree. Jassi, I don't think one would think, to disrupt the children, every time they visited, the powder room.
And what would you do if you were out shopping and taken short?
If one was out shopping and had to pay a visit to public toilets, it would not come under your " safe environment location" So then they would obviously have to go with you, if you were alone.
I have never experience that situation, so cant really answer any more adequately than that, jassi.
I have always lived in villages, where you could go into a tearoom and ask at the desk if they could care for them, whilst you were paying a visit too the "Ladies".
Nor have I but I really cannot see any problem with taking the whole tribe into the bathroom and parking them in the bath (if short of space) while having a 'tinkle'.
Nor have I but I really cannot see any problem with taking the whole tribe into the bathroom and parking them in the bath (if short of space) while having a 'tinkle'.
I've never come across a tea-room or shopping mall with a bathtub.
I was talking about the domestic situation, as you probably well realise.
Earlier you'd mentioned being taken "short" while out shopping...
Ok. So home situation, then.
My question was to Carly, so she may have a perfect solution.
In the meantime, if you have, e.g., children of 2, 4 and 6-7 ... then what? You still plonk all of them in a bathtub, shower?
What if you're taking a shower in a small bathroom?
How can children NEVER be left alone for even a minute? What are you supposed to do? Have children sleep in the dining-room until you go to bed? Eat and sleep with them in their bedroom? Grab all your kids every time the phone rings in a different room? Take them all into the toilet with you every time you or any of the kids need to go?
Have a large cage in the living-room with multiple locks on?
I can't believe this conversation! I never put my kids in the bath when I needed to "tinkle" - what an odd idea! @)(++(*
Earlier you'd mentioned being taken "short" while out shopping...
Ok. So home situation, then.
My question was to Carly, so she may have a perfect solution.
In the meantime, if you have, e.g., children of 2, 4 and 6-7 ... then what? You still plonk all of them in a bathtub, shower?
What if you're taking a shower in a small bathroom?
How can children NEVER be left alone for even a minute? What are you supposed to do? Have children sleep in the dining-room until you go to bed? Eat and sleep with them in their bedroom? Grab all your kids every time the phone rings in a different room? Take them all into the toilet with you every time you or any of the kids need to go?
Have a large cage in the living-room with multiple locks on?
According to some purists, you should never leave any of your children unattended - ever - before the age of 12 (or whenever a child is no longer "young").
If taken to the letter, at least according to a certain "researcher / campaigner", that would mean taking your 11.5 year-old, even of a different sex, to the toilet with you several times a day (unless, of course, you have a catheter and a colostomy bag which would hopefully obviate such needs).
That would also mean having sex with your partner with your children in the same room... just so that they're never alone.
If they then end up totally unprepared for life and quite possibly with psychological problems, then that's not your fault: they were never left alone for even a minute.
According to some purists, you should never leave any of your children unattended - ever - before the age of 12 (or whenever a child is no longer "young").
If taken to the letter, at least according to a certain "researcher / campaigner", that would mean taking your 11.5 year-old, even of a different sex, to the toilet with you several times a day (unless, of course, you have a catheter and a colostomy bag which would hopefully obviate such needs).
That would also mean having sex with your partner with your children in the same room... just so that they're never alone.
If they then end up totally unprepared for life and quite possibly with psychological problems, then that's not your fault: they were never left alone for even a minute.
This little chap has been missing since September. :(
My thoughts are with those who know and love him. The rollercoaster must be horrendous.
Unfortunately in almost every instance of a missing child comparisons are made ... usually based on analysis of the 'body language' of relatives making an appeal.
There were comments when Alice Gross disappeared, there were comments when Rebecca Watts disappeared and there have been comments about William's disappearance too.
Though of course, interpreting body language is a well developed human skill.It's a skill some people believe they possess, but which subsequently turns out to be somewhat overstated. How many times recently have we seen long threads in which the body language of fathers, boyfriends, brothers of missing girls been analysed by armchair detectives and found to contain signs of guilt, when it then turns out none of those being accused by implication had anything whatsoever to do with the disappearance? I've lost count.
It's a skill some people believe they possess, but which subsequently turns out to be somewhat overstated. How many times recently have we seen long threads in which the body language of fathers, boyfriends, brothers of missing girls been analysed by armchair detectives and found to contain signs of guilt, when it then turns out none of those being accused by implication had anything whatsoever to do with the disappearance? I've lost count.
Which threads are they then?I already answered this, but my reply was deleted.
I don't remember seeing any, remind me.
I already answered this, but my reply was deleted.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/william-tyrrell-police-charge-man-over-alleged-historical-sex-offences/story-e6frg6n6-1227315950373
The Australian
April 22, 2015 8:00
Dan Box
Crime Reporter
Sydney
*snip*
Five detectives from Strike Force Rosann, established after William went missing from his grandmother’s home in Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast, arrived at Mr Spedding’s home in nearby Bonny Hills about 1.30pm yesterday. He was subsequently driven to Port Macquarie police station, where he was charged with five counts of sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 10 years, and two counts of assault. In a written statement, police said: “The charges do not relate to the ongoing William Tyrrell investigation.”
Mr Spedding’s son Rodney, who has spoken out in support of his father, said yesterday he had “nothing to say” before hanging up. The arrest came five days after police investigating William’s disappearance announced they believed a pedophile ring might be active near Kendall. “Recent information that we have received … relates to a pedophile ring that may be operating,” Homicide Squad commander Mick Willing said at the time. “We are vigorously pursuing that line of inquiry and this investigation is moving forward at a very fast pace.
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Not looking very promising for a positive outcome.
OMG! That doesn't look good. At all. I hope he had nothing to do with the disappearance of that dear little boy.
It can't be just coincidence the man had links to the grandmother's house. I wonder, if he was involved, whether it was the little girl he was really after?
At least it's one more of those evil people locked away from society for the time being.
Doesn't he have a wife and children?
He has a wife, whom he apparently married in 2011. She seems to be the carer of 3? of her young grandchildren. This family sounds as complicated as young William's.
There is an Australian forum with much discussion on it about Spedding, if you are interested.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?278081-Australia-William-Tyrrell-3-Kendall-NSW-12-Sept-2014-9
http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/spiderman-toy-found-in-bill-speddings-work-van-by-police-searching-for-william-tyrrell/story-fns0kb1g-1227390793382
2 HOURS AGO JUNE 10, 2015 9:01AM
POLICE investigating the disappearance of missing toddler William Tyrrell found a Spiderman toy in the van of “person of interest” Bill Spedding, Sydney’s Daily Telegraph reports.
Spedding has always denied any involvement in William’s disappearance. He is the only person of interest to police that has been identified throughout the investigation, which began on September 12 when the three-year-old went missing from his grandmother’s Kendall, NSW, home.
He was wearing a Spiderman costume at the time
Detectives questioned Spedding’s wife Margaret about where the toy came from and she reportedly told them it was given to her husband by one of the children they cared for.
“(The child) left it in the van for (Mr Spedding) to keep him company when he was driving,” the Daily Telegraph reported.
Mrs Spedding said she believed the toy got police attention because of the costume he was wearing when he went missing.Police have searched Mr Spedding's home and business, as well as bushland a few kilometres from his home.
In April police revealed the believed the disappearance could be linked to a paedophile ring operating in the area.
The head of the investigation, which is being treated as a homicide, Detective Inspector Gary Jubelin, said the information was new, solid and he believed a number of people may have played a role in William’s abduction.
“We’ve uncovered and received information that leads us to a line of people we suspect of being involved in paedophile activity,” Detective Inspector Jubelin said.
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Thanks Misty,
Poor little mite. It's being treated as a homicide.
I was really hoping that he would be found and returned to his family, but that looks unlikely.
That poor family must be suffering in the worst possible way. 8(8-)) My prayers are with them.
I don't know what to make of this white goods repair man, Snedding, but if he is innocent...His life is ruined.
This case is fast becoming Australia's modern day Madeleine McCann.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127496/Accused-paedophile-questioned-disappearance-toddler-William-Tyrrell-related-child-rapist-murderer.html
Accused child molester Bill Spedding was related to murdered and rapist Jeffrey John Hillsley, a court has heard.
The revelation emerged in Mr Spedding's Supreme Court bail hearing on Wednesday over his alleged assault of two girls aged three and six years old which were read out during his NSW Supreme Court bail hearing.
Hillsley is a notorious paedophile who is serving 30 years in prison for the repeated rape and murder of a girl in December 2003.
Defence lawyer Peter O'Brien, for Mr Spedding, told the court Hillsley, who had been convicted of abducting and indecently assaulting a five-year-old, had access to Spedding's alleged victims in January 1987.
Spedding is accused of sexually assaulting the two girls in a caravan in Campbelltown in April and May of 1987.
The offences were uncovered by detectives investigating the case of missing toddler William Tyrrell who vanished from his grandmother's home at Kendall, on the NSW Mid North Coast last September. Bill Spedding is a person of interest in the disappearance.
He has not been charged over the toddler's believed abduction, but in April he was arrested and placed in custody on the child sexual assault charges.
Arguing for Spedding's release on bail, Mr O'Brien suggested Hillsley had the opportunity to do something to the two young girls in the months leading up to the assaults.
Crown prosecutor Rose Sharma said Hillsley was in prison on other offences around the time the assaults on the three and six-year-old girls occurred. Hillsley was never charged over these allegations.
Mr O'Brien said that while medical evidence suggested the victims were abused in the first half 1987, it didn't show exactly when the abuse happened.
Mr O'Brien said the statements about his client allegedly causing horrific injuries to the girls - which are from a court hearing in the late 1980s - were made by the victims after 'tutoring' or 'coaching' by their mother and other adults.
An 83-page document containing hospital records and allegations of child sexual abuse was tendered in the bail application by Mr Spedding.
One of the girls complained in 1987 that 'her body was hurting' and that her private parts 'appeared to be purple and badly bruised'.
Spedding, who looked as if he had lost weight since his arrest in April, sat stony faced in Cessnock prison from where he was beamed into the NSW Supreme Court via audio visual link.
The 63-year-old NSW Mid North Coast washing machine repairman's hair was cut short and and he was wearing a green prison sweatshirt. He occasionally leant forward towards the camera as if he was straining to hear.
Mr Spedding was applying for bail on charges of having raped the two young girls at Campbelltown in western Sydney nearly 30 years ago.
The alleged victims, whose names have been suppressed, will appear as witnesses at Mr Spedding's forthcoming trial on the charges, Justice Geoffrey Bellew told the NSW Supreme Court on Wednesday.
Mr O'Brien said one of the victims had attended Westmead Hospital and that an examination 'supported penetration but it doesn't show when penetration occurred'.
Mr O'Brien said that the adults who coached the little girls 'gave innocent acts sinister overtones'.
He said that while the girls had specifically nominated Bill Spedding as their abuser it was the result of discussions with their mother 'in a hothouse of suspicion'.
'While at hospital she nominated [Bill Spedding] as the offender,' Mr O'Brien quoted the judgement.
One of the girls said 'it is Bill'.
But Mr O'Brien said there had been a 'thorough police investigation' of Mr Spedding back in the late 1980s and he hadn't been charged.
Mr Spedding faces five counts of child sexual assault and two of common assault.
His Bonny Hills property, which lies 20km from where three-year-old William Tyrrell disappeared from 10 months ago, was the subject of an intensive police search in January this year.
Mr Spedding allegedly raped two girls aged three and six repeatedly in a caravan in 1987.
The tendered judgement also contains allegations of 'ongoing' child sexual abuse by Mr Spedding in Victoria.
The grandfather has denied any involvement in the believed abduction of William Tyrell, who vanished from his grandmother's home in Kendall last September while he played, dressed in his favourite Spiderman costume.
Despite extensive searches by police no trace of William has been found.
Earlier this month it was reported that police retrieved a Spiderman toy from Mr Spedding's 'Speddo's Hire' repair van.
Opposing bail, Rosa Sharma argued that the two young girls Spedding is accused of molesting 'were very clear that it was [Bill Spedding]'.
Ms Sharma said the girls' mother 'saw bruising and a gaping hole in her genitals and th three-year-old said it was this applicant [Spedding] who has touched her down there'.
While Spedding's defence has offered to put up bail of $100,000 and for him to live with his wife and not do house calls where there might be children, Ms Sharma argued Spedding was 'facing full time custody in the latter half of his life' and the risk he would break bail conditions was to great.
Justice Geoffrey Bellew has reserved his decision on whether to grant Mr Spedding bail told the NSW Supreme Court on Wednesday.
I thought that it had been brought to the police attention by the fact that he visited the home of William's grandma. They would automatically check his records...........And Bingo! they thought they had him.
I am very unsure about this one.
There is probably a paedo within most families and Hillsby was not a blood relation.
It is possible that Hillsby hurt these very young little girls. The time of the injuries inflicted upon them is not known.
However the damning media reports will have already caused the public to find this man guilty.
Is there still searches for William being carried out? I thought that they suspected a paedo ring? I have heard no more about rings or searches recently.
From the media reports, it appears Hillsby was in prison at the time the injuries to one of the girls was noted - and, the injuries were real & recorded
I presume some form of searching for young William is still ongoing, but like with Madeleine, I think modern technology will provide the breaks the police need.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/bill-spedding-back-home-after-release-on-bail-for-historic-child-sex-offences/story-fni0cx12-1227407115538
LIA HARRIS THE DAILY TELEGRAPH JUNE 20, 2015 11:48A
BILL Spedding, a person of interest in the William Tyrrell abduction case, has arrived back in his hometown today after being released on bail for historic child sex offences.
Spending is accused of sexually assaulting two young girls in 1987 and has been in custody since April before being granted bail in the Supreme Court yesterday.
He was released from Cessnock prison last night and reported to police in Port Macquarie about 8.15am today as part of his strict bail conditions.
He was then seen stopping off at the Bonny Hills general store before retreating to a relative’s house in Lakewood, near Laurieton.
He has not yet returned to his Bonny Hills home where he lives with wife Maragret.
The historic charges are not related to the disappearance of William Tyrrell, but police have previously named Spedding as a person of interest in the case.
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I can't believe they've granted bail!
How awful! Another poor child. It is disgusting how the whole world seems to have changed. How can anyone hurt a small child? 8(8-))
I don't think the world has really changed, Anna, I think the internet has just facilitated the access to information about crimes of this nature.
There are more articles about this online. The age of the child seems to have been narrowed down to between 2 & 5 and 10 potential victims have been ruled out. There was girls' clothing in the suitcase but that could be misleading.
I will post any updates once the conclusions of the autopsy are published.
The description of the person seen dumping the suitcase, though......
A video about the case one year on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b810v6xGqY0&feature=youtu.be&utm_content=buffer2daad&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Some interesting similarity factors with the McCanns case (many of which have been used in some form or another to criticise or cast doubt on the McCanns or the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance):
1) Parents were adamant that they knew their "cautious boy" would never wander away of his own accord.
2) Mother and Grandmother did not phone the police immediately, but around 20 minutes after first realising William was missing
3) When the police arrived the father was inside the house, not out searching and was said to be "in a mess" by the policeman.
4) Parents left the area where William went missing just a week later, to return home - a four hour drive away.
5) Police have categorically ruled out family involvement in the disappearance.
6) Police are pursuing the theory that William was abducted despite an almost complete absence of any evidence.
7) 407 sightings of William have been reported in one year.
8) When asked if they believe William could still be alive, the investigating officer stated that they don't close their mind to any possibility.
9) When parents were asked the same question they said there is nothing to suggest he is not alive.
Could someone kindly answer these questions please.
1. Has the grandmother spoken or confirmed the last time that she saw the boy?
2. What footwear was he wearing when he disappeared?
3. Did anyone else see the boy playing outdoors that day e.g. neighbours?
I would like to get a timeline that day from the main witnesses i.e. the family.
Have cadaver dogs searched inside that house? Basement? Sniffer dogs only found a scent in the yard. I think a vehicle would have been spotted.
Thanks Misty. All humans have their own unique odour so if the dogs didn't track the child leaving the property then inside that house needs to be properly investigated with cadaver dogs. I think they would have done it. I read the grandmother sold and moved out of that house just after the disappearance &%+((£The lead detective on this case is pretty meticulous, judging from what I've read. The specialist dogs would have been inside the house, no doubt about it.
Spedding in that link would be very foolish to carry out work there then go back days later to abduct a child.
Thanks for the link. The mother was inside the house and the grandmother outside when he went missing so they were not together for how long? I would like to know the time of the last photo taken that morning. Establishing a timeline is crucial. That is a dead end road so a vehicle would likely be seen leaving. Neighbours were returning home or leaving around that time. The mother reported seeing 2 parked cars. Did anyone else witness these cars parked where she said?
Can't open the page, Misty. Any chance of rectifying this?
"William’s mom sat on the porch and talked with her mom, Nana while watching the children play. She saw William playing on the grass and then going to the right side of the house near some low bushes. Although she could not see him anymore she could hear him playing and 'roaring' like a tiger. .... 'then it was silence' "
http://missingpersonsofamerica.com/category/william-tyrell/
So that is the last known event, he was out of sight, but within hearing distance, making noises which were interpreted as play tiger roaring, then there was silence.
Mom reportedly went inside the house to make a cup of tea (see opening post). I wonder if the police established who suggested making it - crucial imo. Phone records may have shown that Nana spoke with her best friend on the Thursday night.During the triple zero call by the mum she mentions that another woman (in addition to the mum and grandmother) is already helping search.
Thanks for the missingpersonsofamerica link - very interesting.
During the triple zero call by the mum she mentions that another woman (in addition to the mum and grandmother) is already helping search.
See Pathfinder's post #123. Possibly Ann-Maree?I've read the recent articles, and that's why I mentioned that detail in the 000 call.
... playing on the grass and then going to the right side of the house near some low bushes. Although she could not see him anymore she could hear him playing and 'roaring' like a tiger. .... 'then it was silence' "
(snip) foster mum + her mother (snip)but... IMO the f parents were visiting a blood gma of the child.
I might be wrong but... IMO the f parents were visiting a blood gma of the child.
In the video, fm refers to "mum & dad's" even though dad had died a while back. They were going to visit fm dad's grave that afternoon. Neither of the fp are bio parents of the children & wanted to adopt them.I concede now you are right Misty, they were visiting the fmum's mum.
I concede now you are right Misty, they were visiting the fmum's mum.
Unless fm is the sister of the bio dad.......it's confusing.Even a complicated family background and links to all sorts of other people do not decrease the possibility of a simple physical solution that's nothing to do with any of that.
Lots of posts on W/Sl #23, some people seem to know the identities of the unnamed parties in this case. It's odd one of the grandmothers has been named in the press when there is supposed to be a need for secrecy.
Even a complicated family background and links to all sorts of other people do not decrease the possibility of a simple physical solution that's nothing to do with any of that.
Wasn't one of the last things said to the child something like asking whether he could see the car returning? So there are possibilities of going to the roadside or driveway or carport or garage in anticipation?
Yes, that's a possibility, especially if he'd heard a car engine whilst playing around the side. Whose car, though?IMO it's important to reconstruct what is in the child's mind at the moment he walks out of sight.
I wonder how familiar WT was with the house & garden layout? He'd only turned 3 a few months before & his FM said in the video that they hadn't been to the house since February, at which time he would have still been 2.
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Someone grabbed him, and he hollered.Possible, although if someone did that they would presumably then put hand over mouth.
Possible, although if someone did that they would presumably then put hand over mouth.
Which is why he suddenly stopped hollering.Roaring (playing), grabbed, silence. That is possible. One of many possible theories.
Roaring (playing), grabbed, silence. That is possible. One of many possible theories.
Is big tank under balcony for water? oil?
http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/j/f/j/3/5/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gjgpr1.png/1443232810386.jpg
Thanks for all of your efforts, Misty.
With The Bush so close I do wonder if William just wandered off.
Nothing is impossible but the tracker dogs were on the scene within a few hours of his disappearance so.......
Detectives focus William Tyrrell search on 800sqm area
https://au.news.yahoo.com/detectives-focus-william-tyrrell-search-area-six-minutes-vanished-215908658.html