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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Admin on November 29, 2023, 07:34:19 PM
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An Irish woman who was allegedly raped by Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will be kept under police protection ahead of his sex assault trial next year, MailOnline can reveal.
German prosecutors confirmed last night that Brueckner, 46, will finally go on trial on February 16 for five sex crimes, three of which involve minors.
One of three victims that Brueckner is accused of raping is Irish national Hazel Behan, who was just 20 when she was viciously attacked by 'a German man with piercing blue eyes' in Portugal during a four-hour ordeal in 2004.
Ms Behan, now 40, has revealed that she was given Brueckner's trial date last week when two German detectives visited her to go through the 'fine details'. She said she was told the trial could last 'for three months'.
The alleged victim, who was raped at knifepoint, was informed that she will be 'carefully guarded' amid fears for her safety in the lead up to the trial - with police advising that not even her husband will be able to come with her to court.
Read more...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12801765/Christian-Brueckners-Irish-rape-victim-police-protection-Madeleine-McCann.html
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Well, apart from 22 Views, most of which are probably mine, no one seems interested in Brueckner going down for Several Violent Sexual Abuse Charges, likely though at least some of them are.
Perhaps that is it. Everyone knows that Brueckner is done for for a few more years and so they can't be bothered to comment. We shall have to take some comfort for that.
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There's nothing really to be said. We've known about these offences for the past two & half years already, & Brueckner is a nobody. If Wolters hadn't hitched his name to the Maddie case these offences would barely make national or international news.
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This is an On Topic Thread. Please take note.
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Well, apart from 22 Views, most of which are probably mine, no one seems interested in Brueckner going down for Several Violent Sexual Abuse Charges, likely though at least some of them are.
Perhaps that is it. Everyone knows that Brueckner is done for for a few more years and so they can't be bothered to comment. We shall have to take some comfort for that.
Nothing much to say until the trial gets underway; or at least until we see what delaying tactic the defence will be trying this time round.
I'm sure there must be more procedural issues they can come up with.
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Nothing much to say until the trial gets underway; or at least until we see what delaying tactic the defence will be trying this time round.
I'm sure there must be more procedural issues they can come up with.
I just want to know if Brueckner will submit a Plea. Not that it will do him much good if he doesn't. And then there is the question of Concurrent or Consecutive. All much more interesting than some people might think.
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I just want to know if Brueckner will submit a Plea. Not that it will do him much good if he doesn't. And then there is the question of Concurrent or Consecutive. All much more interesting than some people might think.
Only when it gets started. Until then I consider it a bit of a bore.
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I just want to know if Brueckner will submit a Plea. Not that it will do him much good if he doesn't. And then there is the question of Concurrent or Consecutive. All much more interesting than some people might think.
What's interesting about it? Can't say I can see anything worth wasting much thought on myself.
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I am finding German Law quite fascinating, but then I am always ready to learn something new. And we don't know the half of it yet.
Fulscher is quite likely to try some more new trick but all he has achieved so far is to delay the inevitable, which is why it has all taken so long.
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On the court records now.
„sexual self-determination - file number 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22) Here: notification of the main hearing dates
It should be noted that during the main hearing the court will have to clarify whether the allegations are true or not. Any person charged with a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty by law.
The main hearing in the case 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22) begins on:
Friday, February 16, 2024, at 9:00 a.m
in room 141 of the Braunschweig Regional Court
Münzstraße 17, 38100 Braunschweig
Further continuation dates have been scheduled for:
Friday, February 23, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, March 1st, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Thursday, March 14, 2024, 11:00 a.m
Wednesday, April 3rd, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, April 5, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, April 10, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, April 12, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, April 19, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, April 24, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, April 26, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Thursday, May 2nd, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, May 3rd, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, May 8, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, May 15, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Thursday, May 16, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Friday, May 17, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Tuesday, May 21, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, May 22, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Thursday, May 23, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Tuesday, May 28, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, May 29, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Tuesday, June 4th, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, June 5, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Thursday, June 6, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Tuesday, June 25, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Wednesday, June 26, 2024, 9:00 a.m
Thursday, June 27, 2024, 9:00 a.m
expected: each room 141
Please note that the list of dates is not binding. Any changes can be found on the notice board in the court and will also be announced by the press office via a press release.
Contact:
Judge at the regional court
Lisa Rust
Press spokesperson
Braunschweig Regional Court
Münzstrasse 17
38100 Braunschweig
Tel.: (0531) 488-2284 or 0175/5047289
Fax: (0531) 488-2665
Email: lgbs-pressestelle@justiz.niedersachsen.de
Judge at the regional court
Benedict Eicke
Press spokesman
Braunschweig Regional Court
Münzstrasse 17
38100 Braunschweig
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I look forward to some responsible reporting of the highlights.
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Oh well, it gets him out of his cell for a bit so I expect he’s looking forward to it.
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Some interesting comments on Websleuths while nothing is going on here.
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Some interesting comments on Websleuths while nothing is going on here.
In relation to the Maddie case or the unrelated offences?
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Some interesting comments on Websleuths while nothing is going on here.
Its not exactly a hive of activity over there either.
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Well I tried very hard to get y’all talking about the dog alerts again but no one’s heart was in it apparently (not so much a woof as a whimper). Time to accept reality at long last - it’s all over - Madeleine was abducted and the McCanns had nothing to do with it. Now all that remains to be seen is whether or not CB was her abductor. I think it’s highly likely but not a certainty.
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Well I tried very hard to get y’all talking about the dog alerts again but no one’s heart was in it apparently (not so much a woof as a whimper). Time to accept reality at long last - it’s all over - Madeleine was abducted and the McCanns had nothing to do with it. Now all that remains to be seen is whether or not CB was her abductor. I think it’s highly likely but not a certainty.
I'm going for Abduction but not Murder.
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There's Dogs in this one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12832849/Inga-Gehricke-Hope-breakthrough-German-Madeleine-McCann-investigation.html#comments
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Well I tried very hard to get y’all talking about the dog alerts again but no one’s heart was in it apparently (not so much a woof as a whimper). Time to accept reality at long last - it’s all over - Madeleine was abducted and the McCanns had nothing to do with it. Now all that remains to be seen is whether or not CB was her abductor. I think it’s highly likely but not a certainty.
He wasn't. Because she wasn't abducted in my opinion.
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There's Dogs in this one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12832849/Inga-Gehricke-Hope-breakthrough-German-Madeleine-McCann-investigation.html#comments
I knew when I started reading this article that Brueckner's name would appear as a potential suspect, even though it's previously been reported that he'd been ruled out.
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Here you go. Ruled out as of 2021.
Thomas Kramer, a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office in Stendal, told the newspaper:
'The investigation of Christian B regarding Inga's disappearance is currently closed.
'Police investigations have been conducted but they have not produced any facts to suggest that Christian B. could have abducted, abused or killed Inga.
'Therefore, even after this additional research, there was no initial suspicion against Chrisitan B., so that the preliminary proceedings were discontinued.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9295981/amp/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-ruled-probe-missing-German-Maddie.html
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There's Dogs in this one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12832849/Inga-Gehricke-Hope-breakthrough-German-Madeleine-McCann-investigation.html#comments
Odd that the dogs’ handler is only 85% convinced their dog alerted to something significant… obviously not enhanced VRDs like the magnifcent Eddie who as we all know was 100% correct 100% of the time and solved hundreds of murders single-pawed.
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Interesting bit at the bottom of that Mail article.
'He is currently in jail in Kiel, in the German state of Schlweswig-Holstein, for drug dealing, and is appealing against a conviction for the 2005 rape of a woman near the Praia da Luz resort where McCann went missing.'
Wonder if that is actually true ?
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Interesting bit at the bottom of that Mail article.
'He is currently in jail in Kiel, in the German state of Schlweswig-Holstein, for drug dealing, and is appealing against a conviction for the 2005 rape of a woman near the Praia da Luz resort where McCann went missing.'
Wonder if that is actually true ?
yes, his lawyer is attempting to get him off by calling into question the testimony of Helge B.
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Well I tried very hard to get y’all talking about the dog alerts again but no one’s heart was in it apparently (not so much a woof as a whimper). Time to accept reality at long last - it’s all over - Madeleine was abducted and the McCanns had nothing to do with it. Now all that remains to be seen is whether or not CB was her abductor. I think it’s highly likely but not a certainty.
It's not all over at all, VS. Madeleine still lives, but I doubt that she is the Madeleine that she would have been. She has lived a strange life. I doubt as happy as it would have been had she remained with her family.
She has lived in various countries well hidden away and with a huge emphasis on religion. Seems like she has missed her youth. How sad. Also I think that she has suffered memory interference, probably in Lesotho or maybe The U.S.
From Matt James runes it appears that they have tried to breed from her but have failed. My instinct ist that she was heavily persuaded to participate, but not totally forced. All so sad. Matt James ideas are very similar to mine, but he puts it so much better than I do.
Someone appears to be deliberately interfering with his webpages by making out (in Nortons name) that his runes are infected in some way. I have never had any problem. Someone doesn't want us reading it! . Disinformation again;
CLEVER STUFF.
The whole case has been riddled with disinformation, right from the word " GO "
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yes, his lawyer is attempting to get him off by calling into question the testimony of Helge B.
Brueckner's DNA extracted from the body hair found in the rape survivor's bed probably indicates the lawyer will have an uphill climb with that one.
Maybe he should be spending more time preparing for the forthcoming trial concerning sexual predation due to start sometime next year.
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Brueckner's DNA extracted from the body hair found in the rape survivor's bed probably indicates the lawyer will have an uphill climb with that one.
Maybe he should be spending more time preparing for the forthcoming trial concerning sexual predation due to start sometime next year.
Unless he can throw doubt on the DNA result as well.
i imaging that he and his team are well capable of multi functioning.
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Unless he can throw doubt on the DNA result as well.
i imaging that he and his team are well capable of multi functioning.
Ah, Yes. The cat brought it in. What was the cat doing crawling around his genitals?
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Ah, Yes. The cat brought it in. What was the cat doing crawling around his genitals?
i was thinking more along the lines of forensic reliability. Chain of custody, lab mix up, that sort of thing
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I think we can safely predict that he's toast.
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i was thinking more along the lines of forensic reliability. Chain of custody, lab mix up, that sort of thing
So what could have happened to the pubic hair to make it irrelevant?
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So what could have happened to the pubic hair to make it irrelevant?
Who knows ? It would be for FF to come up with reasons, not me.
Knowing little about the case, other than what has been online, which has never gone into trial details, I don't know what the defence case amounted to.
I have never seen a trial transcript
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Who knows ? It would be for FF to come up with reasons, not me.
Knowing little about the case, other than what has been online, which has never gone into trial details, I don't know what the defence case amounted to.
I have never seen a trial transcript
But he must have been outside her house to see the cat. And he appears to have known it was her cat.
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But he must have been outside her house to see the cat. And he appears to have known it was her cat.
I dob't know what was said in court as I haven't seen a transcript.
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I dob't know what was said in court as I haven't seen a transcript.
It was reported in the German press but presumably you refuse to accept anything unless you see it with your very own eyes. How can you even be sure CB is in prison convicted of rape in that case?
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I dob't know what was said in court as I haven't seen a transcript.
Brueckner was convicted so someone must have said something.
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Ah, Yes. The cat brought it in. What was the cat doing crawling around his genitals?
Pity it didn't have its claws out at the time.
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i was thinking more along the lines of forensic reliability. Chain of custody, lab mix up, that sort of thing
My understanding is that the challenge is not to the reliability of the forensics but to the reliability of a witness.
He has appealed already, again on a technicality and been knocked back. Can't say he's not a trier.
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Brueckner was extradited to Germany from Italy in 2018 under an arrest warrant that cited a drugs conviction but was subsequently convicted and sentenced for the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal.
His lawyer, Friedrich Fulscher, challenged the validity of the arrest warrant as it did not cite the 2005 rape charge. and argued it was a breach of international law to put him on trial for the rape.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-italy-madeleine-mccann-christian-brueckner-rape-appeal-a9657006.html
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Just as a matter of interest, Brueckner hit 47 years of age a couple of days ago. This could be interesting in the future should he receive any sentences for anything. And will give us some idea of how old he will be if he is ever let loose. Should he be found Guilty of anything of course.
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Just as a matter of interest, Brueckner hit 47 years of age a couple of days ago. This could be interesting in the future should he receive any sentences for anything. And will give us some idea of how old he will be if he is ever let loose. Should he be found Guilty of anything of course.
Thanks for letting us know. Sorry I missed it. I hope he had a very happy birthday.
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Heading for a severe rollocking...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12846299/Madeleine-McCann-Christian-Brueckner-46-witnesses-speak-trial-multiple-rapes-child-sex-offences.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12846299/Madeleine-McCann-Christian-Brueckner-46-witnesses-speak-trial-multiple-rapes-child-sex-offences.html)
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If 6 are ex girlfriends, I wonder who the other 40 might be ?
How many might be actual witnesses of crimes and how many will be there to reinforce his bad reputation ?
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If 6 are ex girlfriends, I wonder who the other 40 might be ?
How many might be actual witnesses of crimes and how many will be there to reinforce his bad reputation ?
Does his bad reputation need reinforcing. He is already a convicted sexual abuser
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Does his bad reputation need reinforcing. He is already a convicted sexual abuser
It can never be laid on too thick, particularly if 1 or 2 of the cases might be a bit short on actual evidence.
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Heading for a severe rollocking...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12846299/Madeleine-McCann-Christian-Brueckner-46-witnesses-speak-trial-multiple-rapes-child-sex-offences.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12846299/Madeleine-McCann-Christian-Brueckner-46-witnesses-speak-trial-multiple-rapes-child-sex-offences.html)
Things are moving forward in the Maddie case, according to Wolters.
It shouldn't be much longer now.
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Does his bad reputation need reinforcing. He is already a convicted sexual abuser
You're only focusing on the negatives. If he's reached the age of 47 & only committed roughly 10 sex offences, then that's less than one a year. In reality he has spent more time in his life not raping people than raping them.
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You're only focusing on the negatives. If he's reached the age of 47 & only committed roughly 10 sex offences, then that's less than one a year. In reality he has spent more time in his life not raping people than raping them.
He's certainly going through a dry period at the moment. Offence-free since 2017
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He's certainly going through a dry period at the moment. Offence-free since 2017
Prison is obviously what it takes, sad to say.
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He's certainly going through a dry period at the moment. Offence-free since 2017
Indeed, & I think we can safely predict it will be a great many years before he sexualy assaults anyone else. Fellow inmates not included.
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Does anyone know when Brueckner's current sentence runs out?
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Does anyone know when Brueckner's current sentence runs out?
I seem to remember reading either 2025 or 2027, but I could be wrong.
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Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will see 46 witnesses speak during his trial over 'multiple rapes and child sex offences'
Some 46 witnesses – including half a dozen former girlfriends – were summoned
Three women will take to the stand including his first lover, on April 10
By JON CLARKE
PUBLISHED: 00:52, 10 December 2023
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will see 46 witnesses speak during his trial over 'multiple rapes and child sex offences'
Some 46 witnesses – including half a dozen former girlfriends – were summoned
Three women will take to the stand including his first lover, on April 10
According to the schedule, which is spread over 29 days, three women will take to the stand including his first lover, Silke Becker, on April 10.
Brueckner fled Germany to live in Portugal with Ms Becker in the mid nineties, and in doing so failed to complete a prison sentence for child sex crimes.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: 'While the focus right now is on the trial in February, I am still heavily involved in the Madeleine case.
'There is no major new evidence to report, but things are moving forwards.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12846299/Madeleine-McCann-Christian-Brueckner-46-witnesses-speak-trial-multiple-rapes-child-sex-offences.html
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I seem to remember reading either 2025 or 2027, but I could be wrong.
So he will be approximately 50 if and when any new sentences start, which is when Consecutive and Concurrent could become important.
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Five allegations against Christian Brueckner, courtesy of The Olive Press...
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/18/exclusive-read-the-full-charges-facing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-just-days-before-the-german-paedophile-47-stands-trial-for-sex-crimes-including-attack-on-14-year-old-girl/ (https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/18/exclusive-read-the-full-charges-facing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-just-days-before-the-german-paedophile-47-stands-trial-for-sex-crimes-including-attack-on-14-year-old-girl/)
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Five allegations against Christian Brueckner, courtesy of The Olive Press...
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/18/exclusive-read-the-full-charges-facing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-just-days-before-the-german-paedophile-47-stands-trial-for-sex-crimes-including-attack-on-14-year-old-girl/ (https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/18/exclusive-read-the-full-charges-facing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-just-days-before-the-german-paedophile-47-stands-trial-for-sex-crimes-including-attack-on-14-year-old-girl/)
Due to the severity of the attack on Behan, under section 66 of the German criminal code, the panel of judges will have the option of sentencing Brueckner to an ‘incapacitation order’, or effectively a permanent life sentence.
While the legal process against Brueckner ticks ever closer, the German prosecutor is keen to stress the investigation into his alleged abduction of Maddie is still ‘very much ongoing’.
“While the focus right now is on the trial in February I am still heavily involved in the Madeleine case,” said Wolters, who has recently been promoted to running a team investigating organised crime.
“There is no major new evidence to report, but things are moving forwards,” he added.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/12/11/exclusive-army-of-witnesses-to-testify-against-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-all-you-know-need-to-know-just-weeks-ahead-of-sex-crimes-trial/
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Five allegations against Christian Brueckner, courtesy of The Olive Press...
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/18/exclusive-read-the-full-charges-facing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-just-days-before-the-german-paedophile-47-stands-trial-for-sex-crimes-including-attack-on-14-year-old-girl/ (https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/18/exclusive-read-the-full-charges-facing-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-just-days-before-the-german-paedophile-47-stands-trial-for-sex-crimes-including-attack-on-14-year-old-girl/)
Thanks Myster, very informative
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Buried under the body of his dead dog, the files had been kept dry in a Lidl bag and came with various other items, some of which it is understood directly implicate Brueckner in the abduction of Maddie.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/06/02/exclusive-ground-zero-the-druidic-circle-hideaway-of-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner/
But it wouldn't allow me to read
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READ MORE:
EXCLUSIVE: Lawyer who pinpointed Portugal lake where cops are searching for Madeleine McCann’s body links the case to another…
I wonder if the reference is to ...
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"Specialist divers had previously searched the reservoir in 2008, paid for by Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia, who claimed to have been tipped off by criminal contacts that Madeleine’s body was there."
... and if the other case is Joana's?
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Someone mentioned, I can't remember who, that he could have taken Madeleine to sell. So still a vestige of hope in there somewhere. Although why I still cling to this I really don't know.
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Someone mentioned, I can't remember who, that he could have taken Madeleine to sell. So still a vestige of hope in there somewhere. Although why I still cling to this I really don't know.
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Former Met detective Colin Sutton told the Mirror: “The Mauritania line is certainly a possibility and needs to be looked at.
“If someone wanted to get a three-year-old child into Africa it’s the obvious route.
“The infrastructure and contacts for people smuggling are clearly there.”
It is unclear if police investigating Madeleine’s disappearance have looked into links to Mauritania, however private detectives hired by the McCanns reportedly believe there are “strong reasons” to think she was taken to Morocco, a route into the country.
Four days after Madeleine disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz, a traveller told Crimestoppers they saw a girl that looked like Madeleine travelling from Tarifa to Tangier.
Two days after that, a tourist reported seeing a girl “identical” to Madeleine with a man in Marrakech, looking sad and asking the man with her: "Can we see mummy soon?"
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-abducted-by-people-traffickers-and-sold-to-rich-family-says-exmet-detective-a3521911.html
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Thanks Myster, very informative
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Buried under the body of his dead dog, the files had been kept dry in a Lidl bag and came with various other items, some of which it is understood directly implicate Brueckner in the abduction of Maddie.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/06/02/exclusive-ground-zero-the-druidic-circle-hideaway-of-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner/
But it wouldn't allow me to read
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READ MORE:
EXCLUSIVE: Lawyer who pinpointed Portugal lake where cops are searching for Madeleine McCann’s body links the case to another…
I wonder if the reference is to ...
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"Specialist divers had previously searched the reservoir in 2008, paid for by Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia, who claimed to have been tipped off by criminal contacts that Madeleine’s body was there."
... and if the other case is Joana's?
The part about items directly implicating Brueckner in Madeleine’s disappearance is total BS dreamt up by Jon Clarke.
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A Full Life Sentence would be good. That would be Brueckner done and dusted.
However, if he only abducted Madeleine then he would have something with which to bargain. She says yet again.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13013597/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-LOSES-bid-key-witness-excluded-sex-attack-trial.html
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13013597/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-LOSES-bid-key-witness-excluded-sex-attack-trial.html
Oh dear, what a shame.
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Madeleine McCann suspect facing new charges ahead of trial next month
The Oldenburg public prosecutor’s office has filed charges of insulting public officials during the performance of their duties.
https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-new-charges-court-trial
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Madeleine McCann suspect facing new charges ahead of trial next month
The Oldenburg public prosecutor’s office has filed charges of insulting public officials during the performance of their duties.
https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-new-charges-court-trial
A few more pieces of interesting information and Fulscher obviously isn't very happy at losing his bid to get the star witness barred. Wasting Public Money is a joke after what he has been up to this last year.
But not long to go now.
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Just short of 3 weeks until the start though a while longer until verdicts.
As they technically are 5 separate trials involving unrelated victims, will verdicts be announced after each trial, or after they have all concluded?
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Just short of 3 weeks until the start though a while longer until verdicts.
As they technically are 5 separate trials involving unrelated victims, will verdicts be announced after each trial, or after they have all concluded?
Difficult to say as they all originate in Portugal. And of course, they could possibly decide to make it a Whole Life Sentence. If they convict him at all.
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Difficult to say as they all originate in Portugal. And of course, they could possibly decide to make it a Whole Life Sentence. If they convict him at all.
I haven't a clue how they will go about it.
I think it could be prejudicial if the verdict for each trial was announced in turn: probably fairer to deliver them at the conclusion of them all rather than piece meal. No jury?? makes that feasible particularly if they use five judges in the deliberations.
But he will be tried under due process which is transparent and can be seen as it is carried out and he has a good legal team, so I don't think he has much to complain about.
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And then we will have to wait for The Appeal from somebody or another.
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Has no one got the energy or the interest to post about this topic anymore?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13034387/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-drew-sketches-child-rape-wrote-abducting-woman-juvenile-German-prosecutor-reveals.html?ico=related-replace
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Has no one got the energy or the interest to post about this topic anymore?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13034387/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-drew-sketches-child-rape-wrote-abducting-woman-juvenile-German-prosecutor-reveals.html?ico=related-replace
Well, this is a new one. I haven't seen this before. Has it been mentioned in the past? Although I am not keen on discussing drawings of this kind.
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Well, this is a new one. I haven't seen this before. Has it been mentioned in the past? Although I am not keen on discussing drawings of this kind.
I think this is new info, but of course drawing pictures of women children being kidnapped and raped is just what men do to pass the time, it doesn't mean anything, nothing to see here...
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Well, this is a new one. I haven't seen this before. Has it been mentioned in the past? Although I am not keen on discussing drawings of this kind.
Definitely a new one for me. But I think we will hear quite a bit of information as the trials progress which is new to us, bearing in mind the number of witnesses due to be called some of whom are unknown to us.
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In the meantime, how many snores until the 16th?
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Don't get too excited, I don't think much will happen in the first few days.
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Don't get too excited, I don't think much will happen in the first few days.
But at least there will be something going on.
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But at least there will be something going on.
This will be the trial of a man who is a convicted sex offender and aggravated rapist who stands accused of a variety of sexual offences spanning a period of years. It took international police cooperation to get him to pay for one crime in 2019. May the evidence in these five cases be strong enough to result in keeping him where he belongs for many years to come.
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This will be the trial of a man who is a convicted sex offender and aggravated rapist who stands accused of a variety of sexual offences spanning a period of years. It took international police cooperation to get him to pay for one crime in 2019. May the evidence in these five cases be strong enough to result in keeping him where he belongs for many years to come.
But why did Portugal do nothing about this? I simply cannot get my head around it.
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But why did Portugal do nothing about this? I simply cannot get my head around it.
My opinion
- a general lack of importance attached to crimes perpetrated against women and children
- incompetence and corruption of the Portuguese police
Random crimes particularly when committed against a transient population of holiday makers must be particularly difficult to pin down, particularly if the onus was to get issues cleared as discretely as possible without unduly alarming the tourist trade on which the economy depended.
Hindsight is an exact science. But passport theft and the theft of cameras and anything else not nailed down is serious but not as serious as the sexual offences which were rife from one end of the Algarve to the next. Yet no-one bothered to collate them or look for a pattern.
The McCanns and their companions were put through years of hellish innuendo and downright accusation by people who knew about the systematic abuse of children in their beds.
Nobody bothered to link those crimes with the vicious rape of an older women carried out in a Luz villa. But most damning of all was the failure to link two abductions of female children from two adjacent villages.
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This will be the trial of a man who is a convicted sex offender and aggravated rapist who stands accused of a variety of sexual offences spanning a period of years. It took international police cooperation to get him to pay for one crime in 2019. May the evidence in these five cases be strong enough to result in keeping him where he belongs for many years to come.
I cant believe how side blinded everyone is on this case.
Even dominating top two threads...of the maddie forum
Yet, not one bit of evidence ...apart from the use of maddies name.
I'LL FREE MONSTER Christian Brueckner’s lawyer brags he’ll get Madeleine McCann suspect OFF rape charges & brands trial ‘witch-hunt’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25970875/christian-brueckner-madeleine-mccann-rape-charges/
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I cant believe how side blinded everyone is on this case.
Even dominating top two threads...of the maddie forum
Yet, not one bit of evidence ...apart from the use of maddies name.
I'LL FREE MONSTER Christian Brueckner’s lawyer brags he’ll get Madeleine McCann suspect OFF rape charges & brands trial ‘witch-hunt’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25970875/christian-brueckner-madeleine-mccann-rape-charges/
TiP: If any media outlet publishes an article that has a drop-down menu of adjectives (outrageous, brave...), it may be worth skim-reading tp see if ever there's a detail worth verifying.
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Worth bearing in mind that the convicted rapist and child abuser Brueckner is charged with three separate aggravated rapes, two perpetrated in Praia da Luz which he filmed and one which was carried out in Praia da Rocha after climbing into an upper hotel apartment. This too was filmed.
He is also charged in two separate cases in 2007 and 2017 with indecency towards children.
The fact that he has been charged with these crimes means there is supporting evidence which will be heard in court once Brueckner's legal team have exhausted all procedural moves open to them.
Interesting that they've made a start with objecting to a lay judge. Just delaying tactics. Brueckner will stand trial for these five offences and the verdict will depend on the evidence.
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Clearly it was considered a valid objection as an alternative lay judge is being selected, so not really a delaying tactic, just the legal system in action. IMO
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Clearly it was considered a valid objection as an alternative lay judge is being selected, so not really a delaying tactic, just the legal system in action. IMO
He's as much entitled to a fair trial as anyone. If there's an issue (in this case over a particular lay judge), I find it appropriate to raise the issue at the beginning as opposed to half-way through the trial, then possibly attempt to declare a mistrial.
I can think of someone over the pond who is desperately trying to find delaying tactics, but I doubt that CB has presidential aspirations.
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But why did Portugal do nothing about this? I simply cannot get my head around it.
Nothing to do with possible brown envelopes over drug trafficking? No... Can't be.
Is Cristovão out of jail yet?
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Nothing to do with possible brown envelopes over drug trafficking? No... Can't be.
Is Cristovão out of jail yet?
Brown Envelopes have long been my suspicion.
Cristovao is now in prison proper for seven years while Amaral appears to have gone bonkers, or something.