Author Topic: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?  (Read 135033 times)

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #750 on: August 28, 2018, 12:39:13 PM »
I respect the right of anyone to report a suspected crime... That's the difference  between us

I think nobody would argue with you on the first bit.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #751 on: August 28, 2018, 12:41:01 PM »
I think nobody would argue with you on the first bit.

And if the police don't take action I respect peoples right to go to the press
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Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #752 on: August 28, 2018, 12:45:11 PM »
I think nobody would argue with you on the first bit.

Though I think most would leave it at that and let the police follow through.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #753 on: August 28, 2018, 02:48:11 PM »
And if the police don't take action I respect peoples right to go to the press

Successfully too in this case. "This person has committed no crime, but we and others disapprove of them" is what Sky chose to broadcast. It wasn't news, it was opinion broadcast on a news channel.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #754 on: August 28, 2018, 02:52:44 PM »
Though I think most would leave it at that and let the police follow through.

I wouldnt

Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #755 on: August 28, 2018, 02:57:57 PM »
Successfully too in this case. "This person has committed no crime, but we and others disapprove of them" is what Sky chose to broadcast. It wasn't news, it was opinion broadcast on a news channel.


Opinions are broadcast each and every day on news channels.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #756 on: August 28, 2018, 03:01:47 PM »

Opinions are broadcast each and every day on news channels.

Unlike the majority of 'victims' of the media ... on this occasion the opportunity to have the right of reply aired on the rolling news was offered and was declined.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Sunny

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #757 on: August 28, 2018, 04:07:17 PM »
Unlike the majority of 'victims' of the media ... on this occasion the opportunity to have the right of reply aired on the rolling news was offered and was declined.

Brietta would you agree to be interviewed without warning on national news, regardless of the topic?   


He waited for over 3 hours outside her house apparently.   I imagine some of her neighbours would have spotted him then he collars her saying apparently.

No, WE CAUGHT YOU!    Can we talk to you about your Twitter… handle, and your attacks on the McCanns?

IMO the Sky expose of Brenda was tied into the Summers and Swan book launch. 
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Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #758 on: August 28, 2018, 04:11:33 PM »
Brietta would you agree to be interviewed without warning on national news, regardless of the topic?   


He waited for over 3 hours outside her house apparently.   I imagine some of her neighbours would have spotted him then he collars her saying apparently.

No, WE CAUGHT YOU!    Can we talk to you about your Twitter… handle, and your attacks on the McCanns?

IMO the Sky expose of Brenda was tied into the Summers and Swan book launch. 

That's a very serious accusation !
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Offline Sunny

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #759 on: August 28, 2018, 04:16:23 PM »
That's a very serious accusation !

I don't mean that Summers & Swann wanted to ruin anyone's life just that IMO it is one hell of a coincidence that Summers and Swann were interviewed on the same programme by Brunt, that Brenda Leyland was confronted by Brunt in the street where she lived. 

They had copies of the dossier and so did Martin Brunt. Where did they get their copy from then?
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Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #760 on: August 28, 2018, 04:18:32 PM »
I don't mean that Summers & Swann wanted to ruin anyone's life just that IMO it is one hell of a coincidence that Summers and Swann were interviewed on the same programme by Brunt, that Brenda Leyland was confronted by Brunt in the street where she lived. 

They had copies of the dossier and so did Martin Brunt. Where did they get their copy from then?

More accusations.
Have you cites for these accusations?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #761 on: August 28, 2018, 05:57:29 PM »
Though I think most would leave it at that and let the police follow through.
Your faith in the ability of the police to always do the right thing is quite charming.   
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #762 on: August 28, 2018, 06:21:24 PM »
Your faith in the ability of the police to always do the right thing is quite charming.   

Does that extend to OG ?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #763 on: August 28, 2018, 06:28:44 PM »
An example of when going to the media with a dossier of abuse is the only way to get the police to act:

re: the whistleblower Jayne Senior who exposed the child sex grooming scandal in Rotherham.

“Frustrated by the fact the council rarely took any action, she bravely made contact with a journalist from The Times and handed over 200 confidential documents which contained evidence that Rotherham’s police and social services had been aware of the sexual abuse happening but had done nothing to prevent it.

She was awarded Women of the Year Outstanding Achievement Award in 2015 for her courage in blowing the whistle on the Rotherham child sex abuse scandal and helping the victims get the justice they deserved”.

I suppose she should have just piped down and wait for the police to get theri arses in gear, eh?
« Last Edit: August 28, 2018, 10:05:37 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #764 on: August 28, 2018, 11:53:02 PM »
Does that extend to OG ?
I don’t know, you’ll have to ask her.
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