Author Topic: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?  (Read 135063 times)

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #885 on: August 30, 2018, 01:29:08 PM »
the doddier compliers didnt get burned...no one knows who they are...they had every right to go to the press...that is not opinion..its fact

Oh but they did.  They will have the death of a woman on their consciences for ever.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #886 on: August 30, 2018, 01:31:24 PM »
Oh but they did.  They will have the death of a woman on their consciences for ever.

In your opinion... I doubt it will be on their conscience as I doubt they attach any blame to themselves... Quite right they are too.. Imo

Offline Angelo222

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #887 on: August 30, 2018, 01:31:39 PM »
The dossier compilers showed no desire to defend their opinions and actions publicly either.

They disappeared as quickly as Brunty did for fear of exposure so lesson learned imo. Such hypocrites, no more dossiers since.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #888 on: August 30, 2018, 01:36:22 PM »
They disappeared as quickly as Brunty did for fear of exposure so lesson learned imo. Such hypocrites, no more dossiers since.

May be more in the future... Who knows

Offline Angelo222

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #889 on: August 30, 2018, 01:37:49 PM »
In your opinion... I doubt it will be on their conscience as I doubt they attach any blame to themselves... Quite right they are too.. Imo

I attach much blame to them just as I do Sky News, Jonathan Levy and Martin Brunt. In my opinion the coroner was wrong not to attach blame to what occurred. The statement by Brenda's son said it all imo.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #890 on: August 30, 2018, 01:48:39 PM »
I attach much blame to them just as I do Sky News, Jonathan Levy and Martin Brunt. In my opinion the coroner was wrong not to attach blame to what occurred. The statement by Brenda's son said it all imo.

I dont

Offline Brietta

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #891 on: August 30, 2018, 02:06:45 PM »
They disappeared as quickly as Brunty did for fear of exposure so lesson learned imo. Such hypocrites, no more dossiers since.

No point in dossiers if the police neither have the power, the will or the resources to combat online abuse.  As more and more of our legislators find not only themselves but many of their constituents on the receiving end of it and as it gets aired on a regular basis in parliament it is only a matter of time before that situation will change.

Two years ago MPs such as Maria Miller were campaigning...
Snip
Miller successfully pushed the government to create a new offence of revenge pornography in 2014, outlawing the distribution of a private sexual image of someone without their consent and with the intention of causing them distress. In the same year, ministers quadrupled the maximum six-month prison term for internet trolls targeting people with offensive or threatening material to two years. The time limit for prosecutions has been extended to three years.

However, the MP argued the laws around abuse and harm on the internet could be updated further

Miller said people had tried to talk her out of trying to get the law changed to create a specific offence of revenge pornography, some by saying it was already illegal. “It was quite clear after talking to victims and the police that the complex set of existing and sometimes overlapping legislation made it difficult for the police to take meaningful action,” she said.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/13/britain-needs-better-laws-stop-online-abuse-maria-miller-internet
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #892 on: August 30, 2018, 02:07:43 PM »
Neither had anyone on this forum.. Apart from John... And I stiil post even though my identity iis known and I have received the expected abuse

I'm not talking about anyone on this forum. I'm talking about people who seemed to want others to be exposed to public scrutiny but weren't prepared to expose themselves. 
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #893 on: August 30, 2018, 02:10:46 PM »
I'm not talking about anyone on this forum. I'm talking about people who seemed to want others to be exposed to public scrutiny but weren't prepared to expose themselves.

Poison Pen Letters.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #894 on: August 30, 2018, 02:15:31 PM »
Read and abide by the forum rules.
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Ignore and break the rules
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Offline Brietta

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #895 on: August 30, 2018, 02:16:43 PM »
I attach much blame to them just as I do Sky News, Jonathan Levy and Martin Brunt. In my opinion the coroner was wrong not to attach blame to what occurred. The statement by Brenda's son said it all imo.

The letter from Brenda's son which was accepted into evidence, reveals that he had no concerns about his mother's state of mind or any fear that she would attempt suicide.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #896 on: August 30, 2018, 02:21:47 PM »
A good analogy.

In many ways perhaps when one takes the cowardice and malice involved.  But usually the poison pen writer is a very sad individual ... in my opinion when abuse is systematic and organised and the abusers can be counted in their hundreds worldwide ... it alters the whole dynamics of the assaults.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #897 on: August 30, 2018, 02:28:52 PM »
The letter from Brenda's son which was accepted into evidence, reveals that he had no concerns about his mother's state of mind or any fear that she would attempt suicide.

However...

Her son Ben Leyland, who lives in America, said her ‘outing’ as @sweepyface left his mother “a broken wreck”.

He added: "She was completely destroyed by what had occurred. It was the final straw that pushed my mum to do what she did."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-sky-news-journalist-5371486

That to me implies blame?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #898 on: August 30, 2018, 02:34:23 PM »
I'm not talking about anyone on this forum. I'm talking about people who seemed to want others to be exposed to public scrutiny but weren't prepared to expose themselves.

It's their business afaiac

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #899 on: August 30, 2018, 02:45:59 PM »
In many ways perhaps when one takes the cowardice and malice involved.  But usually the poison pen writer is a very sad individual ... in my opinion when abuse is systematic and organised and the abusers can be counted in their hundreds worldwide ... it alters the whole dynamics of the assaults.

I never thought you would have been that critical of the dossier compilers.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.