Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.

[pegasus]

What the organisers if amarals defense fund do with the money is of no particular concern to me personally but I know a few people have raised questions, as they are entitled to do. 

There are undoubtedly some curious things - a few of the donations were odd - a couple of examples:

apparently a group of anonymous met police donated exactly £1000. 

A donation of £8000 was made twice a few days apart.



Any questions about the fund could be very easily laid to rest by publishing the bank statements showing monies in and monies out.   Why has this not been done?

That £1000 pound donation stated it was from "an anonymous but very large group of brit police officers". IMO it is obviously not from an actual police force, but is probably from a national association.
Re the 2 donations of £8000 from a non-police inter-national group of people, I suggest GFM have a maximum allowed amount per donation, and the donation of £16000 was split into two simply because it exceeded that maximum.
These donations were genuine, documented and processed by a professional and highly-regarded company, there is nothing dodgy about them at all.

[Jean-Pierre]

That £1000 pound donation stated it was from "an anonymous but very large group of brit police officers". IMO it is obviously not from an actual police force, but is probably from a national association.
Re the 2 donations of £8000 from a non-police inter-national group of people, I suggest GFM have a maximum allowed amount per donation, and the donation of £16000 was split into two simply because it exceeded that maximum.
These donations were genuine, documented and processed by a professional and highly-regarded company, there is nothing dodgy about them at all.

A donation from a 'national association'.  Really?  So why anonymous?  And this would have to be agreed, voted, etc etc.  You are having a larf.

I have no problem with Gofundme.  They simply provide a service and by all account quite efficiently.  It's what happens at the 'receiver' end that interests me.  That is when Gofundme have paid out to the bank account.  Simply publishing a copy of the bank account statement would clear this up. 

It makes me wonder what is so difficult..,,,,

[pegasus]

A donation from a 'national association'.  Really?  So why anonymous?  And this would have to be agreed, voted, etc etc.  You are having a larf.

I have no problem with Gofundme.  They simply provide a service and by all account quite efficiently.  It's what happens at the 'receiver' end that interests me.  That is when Gofundme have paid out to the bank account.  Simply publishing a copy of the bank account statement would clear this up. 

It makes me wonder what is so difficult..,,,,

It's good that you are not disputing that someone did donate £1000.
And someone did donate £16000.
Can't be denied really because GFM certainly processed and documented those donations.

[misty]

It's good that you are not disputing that someone did donate £1000.
And someone did donate £16000.
Can't be denied really because GFM certainly processed and documented those donations.

Rather like they processed a donation from the Sun Newspaper?
Do you know why, when LB name was removed from the GFM appeal, the account location was shown as Portimao but the PJGA BPI branch account is located in Lisbon?

[Alice Purjorick]

A donation from a 'national association'.  Really?  So why anonymous?  And this would have to be agreed, voted, etc etc.  You are having a larf.

I have no problem with Gofundme.  They simply provide a service and by all account quite efficiently.  It's what happens at the 'receiver' end that interests me.  That is when Gofundme have paid out to the bank account.  Simply publishing a copy of the bank account statement would clear this up. 

It makes me wonder what is so difficult..,,,,

Is it done for every GoFundMe account that is set up?

[Jean-Pierre]

It's good that you are not disputing that someone did donate £1000.
And someone did donate £16000.
Can't be denied really because GFM certainly processed and documented those donations.

Well this is curious -

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on September 22, 2015
An anonymous group of Portuguese “business and legal workers” have ploughed over €11,000 (£8000) into the online appeal set up by a young single mother to raise money for beleaguered ex-Maddie cop Gonçalo Amaral. Amaral’s appeal against the €600,000 in damages awarded against him in the civil case taken out by the parents of missing Madeleine is due to be decided by Lisbon’s Appellate Court “any day now”.
The cash boost has brought the Legal Defence for Gonçalo Amaral to over €65,000 (£47,010).

It raises a couple of questions. 

Why was it donated in two identical tranches a few minutes apart.

And if it was coming from a group Portuguese business and legal workers, in Euros, why was it donated via GoFundMe and not just paid into the PJGA directly? 

By the way, I have no doubt that donations were processed through GoFundMe.  It is what happens at the other end which raises some questions,  Very easily answered by publishing a bank statement as a courtesy to those who donated and who would like to see where their money has gone. 

[stephen25000]

Somewhat off topic Stephen - this thread is concerned with amarals appeal.  And the funding of that appeal is of course pertinent.  But an expected attempt to deflect the argument.

The mccanns fund has been formally audited by a specialist firm of chartered accountants.  I am not suggesting that amarals defence fund goes that far - just publishing a copy of the bank statement will do.  Showing dates, credits and debits.

The point of Amaral's fund is very clear. To provide money for his legal defence against the mccanns, and any excess in due course to go to charity.

As to the mccanns accounts,  everything but clear, but definitely relevant and certainly not deflection.

[pegasus]

Rather like they processed a donation from the Sun Newspaper?
Do you know why, when LB name was removed from the GFM appeal, the account location was shown as Portimao but the PJGA BPI branch account is located in Lisbon?

It's not rocket science, the person administering the PJGA GFM appeal lived in Portimao, and the PJGA bank account is at a bank in Lisbon. And the MF company registered address is in a city where none of its directors live. And the registered addresses of some of its directors are places they do not live. This is all normal banking/legal stuff Misty - nothing suspicious at all.

[stephen25000]

It's not rocket science, the person administering the PJGA GFM appeal lived in Portimao, and the PJGA bank account is at a bank in Lisbon. And the MF company registered address is in a city where none of its directors live.
And the registered address of at least one of its directors is in a city 100 miles from where they live. This is all normal banking/legal stuff Misty - nothing suspicious at all.

It is abundantly clear, as per normal, that the supporters are trying any avenue they can to imply the Amaral fund is non kosher. 

[misty]

It's not rocket science, the person administering the PJGA GFM appeal lived in Portimao, and the PJGA bank account is at a bank in Lisbon. And the MF company registered address is in a city where none of its directors live. And the registered addresses of some of its directors are places they do not live. This is all normal banking/legal stuff Misty - nothing suspicious at all.

So Sargento no longer administers the fund?

[pegasus]

(snip) everything but clear (snip)

At least you can't accuse the latest accounts of being over-cluttered with details.

[stephen25000]

At least you can't accuse the latest accounts of being over-cluttered with details.

Indeed Pegasus.

[pegasus]

It is abundantly clear, as per normal, that the supporters are trying any avenue they can to imply the Amaral fund is non kosher.

Even having a bank account in a capital city is now questioned.
 

[Alice Purjorick]

In a variation on the old Benedictine Monastery joke:
It looks like it is Brother Goncalo's turn in the barrel again.......................... &%+((£

[misty]

Even having a bank account in a capital city is now questioned.

The BPI account has always been there. That is not in question.