Author Topic: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?  (Read 17828 times)

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Offline jassi

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #150 on: April 15, 2019, 06:03:05 PM »
I would suggest SY are merely treading water,if Brexit happens then what?

I can't see Brexit having much impact on this.
European Arrest Warrants won't apply, but I doubt they would be used anyway.
Data sharing will be restricted, but this is more to do with automatic access to databases, rather than cooperation between individual forces.
Other than that, both forces can continue being busy doing nothing from now until the money dries up.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline The General

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #151 on: April 15, 2019, 06:44:20 PM »
No, from what Fiona says in her rogatory interview I believe Kate had told Madeleine where she could find mum and dad, so no need to cry, just the need to get there.

Crying only makes the walking more difficult.
We are talking about a 3 year old toddler still, aren't we? Cold, no shoes........stiff upper lip now Maddie, come on now!
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #152 on: April 15, 2019, 07:09:49 PM »
We are talking about a 3 year old toddler still, aren't we? Cold, no shoes........stiff upper lip now Maddie, come on now!

Madeleine was ten days short of four years old and she wasn't a toddler.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #153 on: April 15, 2019, 09:12:46 PM »
We are talking about a 3 year old toddler still, aren't we? Cold, no shoes........stiff upper lip now Maddie, come on now!

Maddie was quite the BIG sister, being responsible for herself and siblings while mummy and daddy were out socialising. The evidence being she complained about being left alione and Sean was crying. she was obviously concerned being left alone in the house.  So the parents took that on board and left them again the next night?

 well  something happened to Maddie.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #154 on: April 15, 2019, 10:10:06 PM »
We are talking about a 3 year old toddler still, aren't we? Cold, no shoes........stiff upper lip now Maddie, come on now!
Someone told us recently that Madeleine leapt into the sea to rescue some friend's sunhat.  To me she is a lot braver than we imagine.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #155 on: April 19, 2019, 11:50:20 AM »
Tuesday or Wednesday, does it make it any better? - they were still left.

I remember Gerry first bringing up the ‘fact’ that Madeleine had come through to his and Kate’s bedroom,  on the one year round of interviews and I remember thinking that it was claimed to muddy the water around Mrs Fenn’s statement. For some it appears to have worked.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #156 on: April 19, 2019, 12:18:04 PM »
I remember Gerry first bringing up the ‘fact’ that Madeleine had come through to his and Kate’s bedroom,  on the one year round of interviews and I remember thinking that it was claimed to muddy the water around Mrs Fenn’s statement. For some it appears to have worked.

Any explanation how Gerry was able to read Mrs Fenn's statement before the case was archived and the police files revealed?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #157 on: April 19, 2019, 12:38:01 PM »
Kate began her book after the files were released. That's when she said she looked out of the window  @)(++(*
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #158 on: April 19, 2019, 12:40:00 PM »
What is more important is that Kate began her book after the files were released. That's when she said she looked out of the window  @)(++(*

So you wouldn't have looked out of the window?  No, probably not.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #159 on: April 19, 2019, 12:44:23 PM »
Could we be trying to get the media to ask the right questions?  I think we have the right elements.

1. Sniffer dogs that track her from the front door to the car park opposite the secondary reception.
2. The arrival of a manager between 9:30 - 10:00 PM who could have insisted no more people come into the Tapas area unless they were clients so closed the door.

3. Fiona reporting that Kate discussed letting Madeleine come over to the Tapas if she woke up.

4. Reports of someone calling out for Madeleine much earlier than the alarm raised by Kate.

5.  The report to the night creche nannies allow them the arrive in time to see the window open and shutters
 up.

6. Confirmation from Kate that it was improbable that Madeleine left via the rear patio door.  The McCanns don't mention the possibility of exiting the front door.

For what seems the millionth time, that is not unusual - that was Maddy's normal route to and from the creche all week. The dogs found her normal route crossing from the car park lamp post to the tapas entrance.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #160 on: April 19, 2019, 12:48:26 PM »
For what seems the millionth time, that is not unusual - that was Maddy's normal route to and from the creche all week. The dogs found her normal route crossing from the car park lamp post to the tapas entrance.
I think your case would be stronger if the sniffer dogs tracked her all the way back to the creche at the main reception.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #161 on: April 19, 2019, 12:58:05 PM »
Any explanation how Gerry was able to read Mrs Fenn's statement before the case was archived and the police files revealed?

He was asked about it in his arguido interview.

When asked if on the night of May 1, 2007 he went to have dinner at the Tapas with Kate, he says yes. As customary they would come and check on the children every half hour, usually alternating. They arrived at the Tapas around 20:30, and then went to the apartment every half hour, until they arrived back, at around 23:00, plus or minus 10 minutes. Occasionally one of the others in the group made the check, he does not remember if this happened on the 1st. It is not true that Madeleine had been crying that night for an hour and 15 minutes, because she was not alone all that time.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #162 on: April 19, 2019, 01:56:56 PM »
I remember Gerry first bringing up the ‘fact’ that Madeleine had come through to his and Kate’s bedroom,  on the one year round of interviews and I remember thinking that it was claimed to muddy the water around Mrs Fenn’s statement. For some it appears to have worked.

If you mean me Faithlilly,    Mrs Fenn said she heard a child crying,  then it got louder and then a child cried Daddy.   Amelie awoke crying,  waking Sean who cried then Madeleine called Daddy and went into their bedroom.   Makes perfect sense to me.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #163 on: April 19, 2019, 02:04:21 PM »
Any explanation how Gerry was able to read Mrs Fenn's statement before the case was archived and the police files revealed?

Mrs Fenn's crying report was in circulation, before she was interviewed.

I don't know when it went MSM, but I would be astounded to find it was not before K&G were arguidoed.

I've never been interested enough to dig into this one in detail.  I was tracking when the Scandal At Chaplins story first emerged.  That one was before Mrs Fenn's statement.  It just so happened that the Crying Incident and the alleged Scandal At Chaplins appeared in the same comment on an MSM article, though that comment was quickly erased.

The alleged Scandal At Chaplins is still a hot favourite.  My blog article on it regularly holds the #1 number of 'views in the last week'.  And lunch friends who elect to raise this point are firmly of the opinion that it happened.  Whereas my blog entry comes out strongly that it did not, complete with reasons why not.

Here's another snippet of information.  Word on the street is that Chaplins is being replaced by a Chinese restaurant.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is it possible to leverage the media to Madeleine's benefit?
« Reply #164 on: April 19, 2019, 02:27:27 PM »
Mrs Fenn's crying report was in circulation, before she was interviewed.

I don't know when it went MSM, but I would be astounded to find it was not before K&G were arguidoed.

I've never been interested enough to dig into this one in detail.  I was tracking when the Scandal At Chaplins story first emerged.  That one was before Mrs Fenn's statement.  It just so happened that the Crying Incident and the alleged Scandal At Chaplins appeared in the same comment on an MSM article, though that comment was quickly erased.

The alleged Scandal At Chaplins is still a hot favourite.  My blog article on it regularly holds the #1 number of 'views in the last week'.  And lunch friends who elect to raise this point are firmly of the opinion that it happened.  Whereas my blog entry comes out strongly that it did not, complete with reasons why not.

Here's another snippet of information.  Word on the street is that Chaplins is being replaced by a Chinese restaurant.

Cite for Mrs fenns statement being in circulation.... You seem to be claiming more and note as facts which have no basis in fact...