The Defence Will State Their Case

[Nicholas]

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And if on the other hand he is the type of person you describe.... making wave, shouting from the roof tops, would be a perfect way to bring the attention back on himself.......

I didn't describe him like this, you did!

[Nicholas]

So therefore who is Dr Vincent Tabak, is he a seperate individual, or someone who is known by another name??

If Dr Vincent Tabak is this narsicist , psychopath, then why do we not hear him shouting from the roof tops that he is innocent, just to get that attention you are talking of.....  Attention for himself, saying look at me.... But he doesn't you yourself have stated that Id Dr Vincent tabak is Innocent , then why is he not making any claims of this....

Why do you think this hasn't happened?

And have you considered he may have accepted his fate and be getting his fuel supply from behind the walls of prison?

[Nicholas]

So therefore who is Dr Vincent Tabak, is he a seperate individual, or someone who is known by another name??

If Dr Vincent Tabak is this narsicist , psychopath, then why do we not hear him shouting from the roof tops that he is innocent, just to get that attention you are talking of.....  Attention for himself, saying look at me.... But he doesn't you yourself have stated that Id Dr Vincent tabak is Innocent , then why is he not making any claims of this....

And if on the other hand he is the type of person you describe.... making wave, shouting from the roof tops, would be a perfect way to bring the attention back on himself.......

There are many psychopaths like Tabak in prison who do not appear to have the means by which to launch fake innocent campaigns. I'm sure given half the chance some would and indeed do, as I know first hand.

[Nicholas]

Have you considered those closest to him who could be described as knowing him best have now accepted they too were wrong at the time they made the statements they did? That their own brother initially conned them?

"Dr Cora Tabak, an adviser on public health, said his family had been dumbfounded by the news that he had charged with the murder.
His brother, Marcel, suggested he had been made a “scapegoat

Speaking at her home in Utrecht in the Netherlands Dr Cora Tabak said: “I have been sitting open-mouthed since Vincent was charged.

“It's unbelievable - he is my little brother and I know him very well.

“He is innocent. The whole family were shocked, we're completely overcome.

“We can't believe it. Anyone who knows him knows he could never be a killer.

“He is very gentle and social. There is no aggressiveness in him in any way.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8277067/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Vincent-Tabaks-sister-insists-he-could-not-be-the-killer.html

Do you think it possible that once the shock wore off Tabaks family may have came to their senses and realised they couldn't dispute the factual evidence they came to learn about their brother?

Why do you think his brothers and sisters chose in the end to not launch a public campaign in support of the brother they once thought they knew well?

"His family have also offered him their support and even organised a fighting fund back in Holland to pay for any legal fees or travel costs in order to visit him

His sister, Dr Cora Tabak, said he spoke to them openly about his flat was at the centre of a major news story after the disappearance of one of his neighbo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8496027/Dutch-engineer-Vincent-Tabak-admits-I-did-kill-Jo-Yeates.html

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My heads on over-drive to day... And seeing as some of you have experience of the law maybe you could answer this


Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to be interested in violent porn... I not going one way or the other on this for the minute, it's not the point of my query.....

So the only title or name we were made aware of was "Sex and Submission"..  An adult series available to view on British Tv's at any time....

Dr Vincent Tabak was taken to court again in march 2015 I believe for the charges relating to images on his computer....  Day and date of these images haven't been established....

Now don't get knickers twisted here I am trying to look at this head on.....

What is the date of the images and when were they apparently made or downloaded?? Any of them??

And does the fact Dr Vincent Tabak is Dutch have any baring on this..... What I mean is would it make a difference if the images were made or downloaded whilst he was in Holland or lived in Holland... Meaning the children in said images possibly originated in Holland?? As for the violent porn I can't say....

Does that then mean that the crime of the images should have been the Dutch Authorities jurisdiction??

Can the British Police charge a Dutch National with crimes that could have been committed in Holland?? Is having the information on his computer enough for the British Police to take action, or do they need to identify these poor children to make sure, that they are safe, and if as I say they too are possibly Dutch nationals, then shouldn't that be a Dutch issue, not British??

Is this the reason that there were no protective measure put in place for these children?? British Jurisdiction didn't have the Authority to do it,... It's another question to ponder...

So if the porn, and images of children where downloaded or made on the computer that Dr Vincent Tabak used, if we cannot establish where and what date these images were made, how do we know for a fact , that no-one else at anytime had access to said computer??

All these images should be dated... details in this case are scarce... Dates and times scarcer... I know he plead guilty... He apprantly plead guilty to manslaughter and I am trying to work out why he would do that...

But simply put... Can a Dutch National be charged with something he did in Holland by British Police??

[Nicholas]

My heads on over-drive to day... And seeing as some of you have experience of the law maybe you could answer this


Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to be interested in violent porn... I not going one way or the other on this for the minute, it's not the point of my query.....

If it's not the point of your query as you state, why mention it?

[Nicholas]

My heads on over-drive to day... And seeing as some of you have experience of the law maybe you could answer this

You still haven'tt answered my numerous questions? Is that because you can't or you won't?

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If it's not the point of your query as you state, why mention it?

Unfortunately.. It's the way I write... It's off the top of my head, what I am thinking hits the page... simple....

I was establishing the two different aspects of the claims made about Dr Vincent Tabak after trial...

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You still haven'tt answered my numerous questions? Is that because you can't or you won't?

How can I answer for the Tabak family.... I can hazzard a guess but cannot answer for them... I do not know them either...

[Nicholas]

Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to be interested in violent porn... I not going one way or the other on this for the minute, it's not the point of my query.....

So the only title or name we were made aware of was "Sex and Submission"..  An adult series available to view on British Tv's at any time....

Now don't get knickers twisted here I am trying to look at this head on.....

You appear to be bringing moral issues to the board?

In others words, you may not find some of the pornography viewed by VT to have been offensive?

[Nicholas]

What is the date of the images and when were they apparently made or downloaded?? Any of them??

And does the fact Dr Vincent Tabak is Dutch have any baring on this..... What I mean is would it make a difference if the images were made or downloaded whilst he was in Holland or lived in Holland... Meaning the children in said images possibly originated in Holland?? As for the violent porn I can't say....

Does that then mean that the crime of the images should have been the Dutch Authorities jurisdiction??

Can the British Police charge a Dutch National with crimes that could have been committed in Holland?? Is having the information on his computer enough for the British Police to take action, or do they need to identify these poor children to make sure, that they are safe, and if as I say they too are possibly Dutch nationals, then shouldn't that be a Dutch issue, not British??

Is this the reason that there were no protective measure put in place for these children?? British Jurisdiction didn't have the Authority to do it,... It's another question to ponder...

So if the porn, and images of children where downloaded or made on the computer that Dr Vincent Tabak used, if we cannot establish where and what date these images were made, how do we know for a fact , that no-one else at anytime had access to said computer??

All these images should be dated... details in this case are scarce... Dates and times scarcer... I know he plead guilty... He apprantly plead guilty to manslaughter and I am trying to work out why he would do that...

But simply put... Can a Dutch National be charged with something he did in Holland by British Police??

Where did Tabak commit these crimes?

And what does your common sense tell you?

IN REAlITY what happened? Where was Tabak charged and by who?

[Nicholas]

My heads on over-drive to day... And seeing as some of you have experience of the law maybe you could answer this


Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to be interested in violent porn... I not going one way or the other on this for the minute, it's not the point of my query.....

So the only title or name we were made aware of was "Sex and Submission"..  An adult series available to view on British Tv's at any time....

Dr Vincent Tabak was taken to court again in march 2015 I believe for the charges relating to images on his computer....  Day and date of these images haven't been established....

Now don't get knickers twisted here I am trying to look at this head on.....

What is the date of the images and when were they apparently made or downloaded?? Any of them??

And does the fact Dr Vincent Tabak is Dutch have any baring on this..... What I mean is would it make a difference if the images were made or downloaded whilst he was in Holland or lived in Holland... Meaning the children in said images possibly originated in Holland?? As for the violent porn I can't say....

Does that then mean that the crime of the images should have been the Dutch Authorities jurisdiction??

Can the British Police charge a Dutch National with crimes that could have been committed in Holland?? Is having the information on his computer enough for the British Police to take action, or do they need to identify these poor children to make sure, that they are safe, and if as I say they too are possibly Dutch nationals, then shouldn't that be a Dutch issue, not British??

Is this the reason that there were no protective measure put in place for these children?? British Jurisdiction didn't have the Authority to do it,... It's another question to ponder...

So if the porn, and images of children where downloaded or made on the computer that Dr Vincent Tabak used, if we cannot establish where and what date these images were made, how do we know for a fact , that no-one else at anytime had access to said computer??

All these images should be dated... details in this case are scarce... Dates and times scarcer... I know he plead guilty... He apprantly plead guilty to manslaughter and I am trying to work out why he would do that...

But simply put... Can a Dutch National be charged with something he did in Holland by British Police??

How do you know this wasn't the case?

[Nicholas]

Have you considered those closest to him who could be described as knowing him best have now accepted they too were wrong at the time they made the statements they did? That their own brother initially conned them?

"Dr Cora Tabak, an adviser on public health, said his family had been dumbfounded by the news that he had charged with the murder.
His brother, Marcel, suggested he had been made a “scapegoat

Speaking at her home in Utrecht in the Netherlands Dr Cora Tabak said: “I have been sitting open-mouthed since Vincent was charged.

“It's unbelievable - he is my little brother and I know him very well.

“He is innocent. The whole family were shocked, we're completely overcome.

“We can't believe it. Anyone who knows him knows he could never be a killer.

“He is very gentle and social. There is no aggressiveness in him in any way.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8277067/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Vincent-Tabaks-sister-insists-he-could-not-be-the-killer.html

Do you think it possible that once the shock wore off Tabaks family may have came to their senses and realised they couldn't dispute the factual evidence they came to learn about their brother?

Why do you think his brothers and sisters chose in the end to not launch a public campaign in support of the brother they once thought they knew well?

"His family have also offered him their support and even organised a fighting fund back in Holland to pay for any legal fees or travel costs in order to visit him

His sister, Dr Cora Tabak, said he spoke to them openly about his flat was at the centre of a major news story after the disappearance of one of his neighbo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8496027/Dutch-engineer-Vincent-Tabak-admits-I-did-kill-Jo-Yeates.html

You appear to once again be taking the facts of this case out of context then adding your own slant?

Why do you appear to look at parts of the case as opposed to lookimg at the entire case as a whole?

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Where did Tabak commit these crimes?

And what does your common sense tell you?

Common Sense shouldn't need to be applied... If I don't trust what has been stated so far... why would I assume, what I have asked isn't the case.... Dates and times please... establishes contents, a forensic examination of said computer also establishes this...

The Defence appear to have done very little of their own investigations... I am trying to find out how the contents of Dr Vincent Tabaks computer was established, and whether or not it would make a difference.... As to whether it is or should be dealt with by the Dutch Authorities instead of British...!!

[Nicholas]

How can I answer for the Tabak family.... I can hazzard a guess but cannot answer for them... I do not know them either...

What does your common sense tell you?