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Another interesting response from MTW

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Replying to @darshnasoni
@darshnasoni Thanks, is v strange - think a call needs to go into CPS press office to clarify if decision has been taken on charging #Tabak

1:24 PM - 1 Nov 2011

At 1:24pm he talks about whether or not a decision has been made about charging Dr Vincent Tabak....

Why on earth is he tweeting about Dr Vincent Tabak, having child images on his laptop, if nothing official has come from either The Police or the CPS??

Did someone in the CPS give him this information?? Or someone in the Police?? Is he the original source of this information that went across the media on 1st November 2011??

I'm just asking...........



https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/131361054365200384

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Can understand reason why the offences of making child abuse material not prosecuted yet- but CPS must prosecute now #Tabak now @smith[Name removed]62

1:00 PM - 1 Nov 2011

This tweet is before the tweet talking about CPS press office...... Why is he pushing for the CPS to prosecute NOW... when know one at that time had any indication as to what these images actually were and, if Dr Vincent Tabak had himself obtain/produced these images..... There is no evidence at this juncture....

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/131354880827854848

[AerialHunter]

Nine-brilliant, wish I had the time to put all that together. The very point that they interviewed Tabak in Holland is very relevant. The Reid technique is banned in the UK because of its fundamental structure backs someone into a corner they can’t see a way out of, even if they haven’t done anything wrong. Feeding Tabak the idea that pleading guilty to manslaughter would save him would be one of the get out routes fed to him along the way along with other options which are very much less palatable (IMHO).  It’s all standard stuff. If you’re trained to deal with it be being taught to recognise individual elements you can counter by using other elements like apologising and asking for increasing clarification etc etc. If you have no idea of what is going on you are caught in a rat trap and the rats are in charge of it.


AH

[Caroline]

Nine-brilliant, wish I had the time to put all that together. The very point that they interviewed Tabak in Holland is very relevant. The Reid technique is banned in the UK because of its fundamental structure backs someone into a corner they can’t see a way out of, even if they haven’t done anything wrong. Feeding Tabak the idea that pleading guilty to manslaughter would save him would be one of the get out routes fed to him along the way along with other options which are very much less palatable (IMHO).  It’s all standard stuff. If you’re trained to deal with it be being taught to recognise individual elements you can counter by using other elements like apologising and asking for increasing clarification etc etc. If you have no idea of what is going on you are caught in a rat trap and the rats are in charge of it.

Bye Caroline.

AH

Does this technique also land HIS DNA on JY's chest? Would it secrete HER blood in his boot? AND if this technique is SO effective and VT so susceptible - how come he stood firm on the admission of manslaughter but wouldn't yield to murder?

The man isn't claiming innocence - perhaps you should TELL him he didn't do it! As other have already said, he didn't crack under interrogation, he gave the information from his own free will to  a Chaplin!

[jixy]

Nine-brilliant, wish I had the time to put all that together. The very point that they interviewed Tabak in Holland is very relevant. The Reid technique is banned in the UK because of its fundamental structure backs someone into a corner they can’t see a way out of, even if they haven’t done anything wrong. Feeding Tabak the idea that pleading guilty to manslaughter would save him would be one of the get out routes fed to him along the way along with other options which are very much less palatable (IMHO).  It’s all standard stuff. If you’re trained to deal with it be being taught to recognise individual elements you can counter by using other elements like apologising and asking for increasing clarification etc etc. If you have no idea of what is going on you are caught in a rat trap and the rats are in charge of it.

Bye Caroline.

AH

 He  brought himself to the attention of the authorities! Phoning them about movements of others while abroad! his over interest in the case. Not to mention his resistance to giving his DNA!

SO now you are claiming the idea to plead guilty to manslaughter was put to him Hey they did great there then. He googled that before even speaking to Police, just like he googled about Jo before anyone knew she was missing

My my Tabak really is as clever as people claim on here...oh just a minute?   

[jixy]

Does this technique also land HIS DNA on JY's chest? Would it secrete HER blood in his boot? AND if this technique is SO effective and VT so susceptible - how come he stood firm on the admission of manslaughter but wouldn't yield to murder?

The man isn't claiming innocence - perhaps you should TELL him he didn't do it! As other have already said, he didn't crack under interrogation, he gave the information from his own free will to  a Chaplin!

Perhaps you should hunt closer to ground!

Spot on  and stayed silent ever since.  Even when people get in touch, he doesnt reply because he doesnt need their help, Guilty as charged hence his silence!

[mrswah]

Just a reminder------please treat other posters with respect, even if you don't agree with what they write.  All views are welcome on here.
Thank you.

[jixy]

No one was being disrespectful...  just a bit of fun after reading some outrageous things about the case. It seems to be ok for people to post badly about the case as long as we dont comment.

[mrswah]

No one was being disrespectful...  just a bit of fun after reading some outrageous things about the case. It seems to be ok for people to post badly about the case as long as we dont comment.

You know you are very welcome to comment, Jixy. Everyone knows they are welcome to comment.  Nuff said!

[mrswah]

And, there is nothing funny about this case, whether VT is innocent or not!

[justsaying]

Nine-brilliant, wish I had the time to put all that together. The very point that they interviewed Tabak in Holland is very relevant. The Reid technique is banned in the UK because of its fundamental structure backs someone into a corner they can’t see a way out of, even if they haven’t done anything wrong. Feeding Tabak the idea that pleading guilty to manslaughter would save him would be one of the get out routes fed to him along the way along with other options which are very much less palatable (IMHO).  It’s all standard stuff. If you’re trained to deal with it be being taught to recognise individual elements you can counter by using other elements like apologising and asking for increasing clarification etc etc. If you have no idea of what is going on you are caught in a rat trap and the rats are in charge of it.


AH

Tabak did not confess in interview - he confessed nothing to police at all, so it does not really matter what technique they used, if any! He made a confession freely to the prison chaplain after requesting to see him. He then went onto admit his crime in front of a jury 

[jixy]

And, there is nothing funny about this case, whether VT is innocent or not!

not its actually quite deranged people are fighting to tell us a murderer is innocent when he himself says no such thing.

You are so right, that is NOT funny!

[jixy]

Dont worry mrswah I wont post again. Anyone who can post on a forum saying  a sex offender should not be charged over disgusting images of children really doesnt deserve my time. Just like slating everyone connected to the murder...just not the murderer!

[justsaying]

He also admitted killing JY to his lawyers prior to his confession to the prison chaplain. What is funny is that people who post on this thread ignore all the evidence whilst putting together some bazaar theory that everyone from the trial judge to his own defence colluded to convict him!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/18/joanna-yeates-vincent-tabak-admission

[justsaying]

People on this thread not only have a pretty warped view of how the law works but also a pretty warped view on how child sex offenders should be treated!