The Boris Bounce and all the Benefits of Brexit

[Carana]

Right. 1 July. Deadline over. No extension requested for Brexit.

When even the Telegraph doesn't seem too impressed...

Britain heading for Brexit 'customs chaos'

Concerns raised over new IT system designed to help goods flow across borders
By Lizzy Burden 28 June 2020 • 9:38pm

The head of the Government’s own expert customs panel has warned of looming chaos at ports after the "amateurish" handling of a new IT system...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/06/28/britain-heading-brexit-customs-chaos/

[Carana]

"I really just don't get what the advantages of Brexit are supposed to be...
"

Neither does the left wing media...  you are in good company don't go letting it bother you.

I'm still waiting for anyone to explain (preferably in a substantiated way) what the advantages are...   

[Venturi Swirl]

I'm still waiting for anyone to explain (preferably in a substantiated way) what the advantages are...   

That we don’t have to pay the EU and therefore be a net contributor to an organisation that prevents us from striking our own trade deals, presumably. 

[Carana]

That we don’t have to pay the EU and therefore be a net contributor to an organisation that prevents us from striking our own trade deals, presumably.

Ok. But just how long does the government think these things take?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/how-long-do-trade-deals-take-after-brexit/

That's just trade.


After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
FT research reveals that agreements with 168 countries must be redone just for Britain to stand still
Paul McClean in Brussels May 30 2017
https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e

[faithlilly]

Ok. But just how long does the government think these things take?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/how-long-do-trade-deals-take-after-brexit/

That's just trade.


After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
FT research reveals that agreements with 168 countries must be redone just for Britain to stand still
Paul McClean in Brussels May 30 2017
https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e

Factor in the effects of Covid on the economy and a PM who ‘doesn’t do detail’ and it’s a perfect storm.

[Venturi Swirl]

Ok. But just how long does the government think these things take?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/how-long-do-trade-deals-take-after-brexit/

That's just trade.


After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
FT research reveals that agreements with 168 countries must be redone just for Britain to stand still
Paul McClean in Brussels May 30 2017
https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e

I don’t know but I guess Brexit is for the long term not just for Christmas.   I have to assume that the business people and politicians  who see its advantages are not complete morons because noone deliberately wants to destroy the country’s ability to trade profitably with other countries for decades to come, do they?

[Carana]

Was I imagining that one of the major arguments in favour of getting people to vote in favour of Brexit was to restrict immigration...

But now it seems that's changed for Hong Kong residents:

Up to three million Hong Kong residents are to be offered the chance to settle in the UK and ultimately apply for citizenship, Boris Johnson has said.

The PM said Hong Kong's freedoms were being violated by a new security law and those affected would be offered a "route" out of the former UK colony.

About 350,000 UK passport holders, and 2.6 million others eligible, will be able to come to the UK for five years.

And after a further year, they will be able to apply for citizenship.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53246899

NB: I have no problem with immigrants from any country who contribute to the economy. But this doesn't compute for me with the "UK is full" mantra.

[Carana]

I don’t know but I guess Brexit is for the long term not just for Christmas.   I have to assume that the business people and politicians  who see its advantages are not complete morons because noone deliberately wants to destroy the country’s ability to trade profitably with other countries for decades to come, do they?

Hard to tell. Looking way back to the beginning of https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys , their campaign against Brexit is based on the changing promises / misconceptions of politicians over time... using the words of the politicians themselves.

I expect that many moderate people who voted in favour of Brexit didn't realise what the consequences would be.

A mega-mistake, IMO, was to vote in favour of an election first. Cummings won.

[Carana]

Potential loss of income from international students at UK universities appears to being blamed on Covid-19. Nothing to do with Brexit? Convenient.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14919

[Miss Taken Identity]

Ok. But just how long does the government think these things take?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/how-long-do-trade-deals-take-after-brexit/

That's just trade.


After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
FT research reveals that agreements with 168 countries must be redone just for Britain to stand still
Paul McClean in Brussels May 30 2017
https://www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e

Every one wants to chuck spears at moving targets! predictions are just that- predictions. not set in stone or confirmed as facts!.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Was I imagining that one of the major arguments in favour of getting people to vote in favour of Brexit was to restrict immigration...

But now it seems that's changed for Hong Kong residents:

Up to three million Hong Kong residents are to be offered the chance to settle in the UK and ultimately apply for citizenship, Boris Johnson has said.

The PM said Hong Kong's freedoms were being violated by a new security law and those affected would be offered a "route" out of the former UK colony.

About 350,000 UK passport holders, and 2.6 million others eligible, will be able to come to the UK for five years.

And after a further year, they will be able to apply for citizenship.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53246899

NB: I have no problem with immigrants from any country who contribute to the economy. But this doesn't compute for me with the "UK is full" mantra.

Not only were you and the other celebroty minority re moaners imagining it, you actually set the tone and try to sell it by believing in it.
Uneducated, white trash types- right wing facists/racist hating on innocent immigrants just wanting to come and make a decent living all voted leave.

Superiority complex anyone?

And NOW you demand someone explain to you about the advantages of leaving. You should have paid closer attention to those of us who were trying to explain, but were shouted down by remoaners who couldn't tell us the advantages of staying in an ever increasing EU with non elected AH's ruling over us!

We joined a common market, which has been increasingly becoming the forth Reich!

[faithlilly]

Not only were you and the other celebroty minority re moaners imagining it, you actually set the tone and try to sell it by believing in it.
Uneducated, white trash types- right wing facists/racist hating on innocent immigrants just wanting to come and make a decent living all voted leave.

Superiority complex anyone?

And NOW you demand someone explain to you about the advantages of leaving. You should have paid closer attention to those of us who were trying to explain, but were shouted down by remoaners who couldn't tell us the advantages of staying in an ever increasing EU with non elected AH's ruling over us!

We joined a common market, which has been increasingly becoming the forth Reich!

You know what they say....not all Brexit voters are racists but I haven’t met one who isn’t.

[Miss Taken Identity]

You know what they say....not all Brexit voters are racists but I haven’t met one who isn’t.

You don't get out much?. How many Black and Asian Brexit voters have you spoke to exactly?

Off the cuff remarks and  name calling. Tsk. Really!

[faithlilly]

You don't get out much?. How many Black and Asian Brexit voters have you spoke to exactly?

Off the cuff remarks and  name calling. Tsk. Really!

You really do think in stereotypes, don’t you.

Surely even you know that Black and Asian people can be racist ?

[Carana]

What's the word before debacle?

Mark François apparently telling the head of the armed forces to sort themselves out (over whatever this debacle was about) or else Cummings will do so.

https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1280570038043447297