Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?

[jassi]

It is there towards the bottom.

This is the only bit that I can see -
 "Meanwhile a fourth individual came towards the group and identified himself as a journalist. The witness alerted the couple to the type of statements they should give and that it would be better for them to keep silent.

At this moment, the third person, who was always near to the couple and the witness, moved the couple away from her and the three of them talked in whispers for some time.

After this, and leaving the couple behind him, he approached the witness and told her that the couple did not want to speak any more with her, nor with anyone else."

[Robittybob1]

I said 'amazing'  because she spent a short time questioning the McCann's,  then came to the conclusion they might have had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

Cite please.

[Lace]

Do we see what was in the anonymous letter?  I don't think we do.  I think you are wrong to say YM "went on to write an anonymous letter saying she thought the McCann's had had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance".

snipped from Yvonne Martins statement -   

She says that about two weeks after Madeleine's disappearance, when the police made an appeal for information about a man, carrying a child, who had been seen in the Luz zone, and whose clothing was described, she wrote an anonymous letter to the British police, telling them the following: : regarding the various details she observed during her contact with the McCanns it is her opinion that they could be in some way involved in the disappearance of Madeleine.

[Robittybob1]

The third person is David Payne,   the fourth person is the journalist.

What I was meaning from an outsiders point of view the numbers are plus 1. 
Kate 1 , Gerry 2, David 3 and Yvonne 4, when the journalist turns up that is 5 people there.

[Lace]

Cite please.

Read Yvonne Martins statement,  I've already given the link.

[Lace]

What I was meaning from an outsiders point of view the numbers are plus 1. 
Kate 1 , Gerry 2, David 3 and Yvonne 4, when the journalist turns up that is 5 people there.

Ok it that sense no she is not counting herself,  but she is speaking about who was there in the respect as to how many people she saw.

[Robittybob1]

snipped from Yvonne Martins statement -   

She says that about two weeks after Madeleine's disappearance, when the police made an appeal for information about a man, carrying a child, who had been seen in the Luz zone, and whose clothing was described, she wrote an anonymous letter to the British police, telling them the following: : regarding the various details she observed during her contact with the McCanns it is her opinion that they could be in some way involved in the disappearance of Madeleine.

OK "that they could be in some way"  I was thinking she was referring to the extended group, but I'll have another look.  I don't see the reason other than the statistics (99.9%) that would support this view.
"The McCanns" IMO is more a reference to family and friends, more so than to Kate and Gerry in particular.

[Robittybob1]

Read Yvonne Martins statement,  I've already given the link.

I'd prefer a copy and paste of a portion at supported your view.

[kizzy]

I said 'amazing'  because she spent a short time questioning the McCann's,  then came to the conclusion they might have had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

Well she wasn't on her own, several involved in the case thought the same . imo

[Robittybob1]

The word I used was expertise.

They often go hand in hand.

[Robittybob1]

This is the only bit that I can see -
 "Meanwhile a fourth individual came towards the group and identified himself as a journalist. The witness alerted the couple to the type of statements they should give and that it would be better for them to keep silent.

At this moment, the third person, who was always near to the couple and the witness, moved the couple away from her and the three of them talked in whispers for some time.

After this, and leaving the couple behind him, he approached the witness and told her that the couple did not want to speak any more with her, nor with anyone else."

That is it.  IMO YM would read that as suspicious behaviour.   

[misty]

That is it.  YM would read that as suspicious behaviour.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm

snipped

"She did this anonymously because she did not want to be bothered by the media. But she also states that according to what she remembers, when she met with Madeleine's parents, David Payne, who was with them, was wearing a dark polo shirt, blue or black coloured, cream coloured long trousers, of linen or cotton, and dark shoes (sandal/slipper type without a back buckle/catch). In her opinion, this clothing matches perfectly with the clothing the Police described the man (carrying the child) to be wearing at the time. All these coincidences made the witness think that the parents and their friends could possibly be involved in the disappearance of the child.

She declares that one of her main aims when she wrote the anonymous letter was for the British police to check the paedophile or child abusers registers and whether David Payne was on that list."

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[Robittybob1]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm

snipped

"She did this anonymously because she did not want to be bothered by the media. But she also states that according to what she remembers, when she met with Madeleine's parents, David Payne, who was with them, was wearing a dark polo shirt, blue or black coloured, cream coloured long trousers, of linen or cotton, and dark shoes (sandal/slipper type without a back buckle/catch). In her opinion, this clothing matches perfectly with the clothing the Police described the man (carrying the child) to be wearing at the time. All these coincidences made the witness think that the parents and their friends could possibly be involved in the disappearance of the child.

She declares that one of her main aims when she wrote the anonymous letter was for the British police to check the paedophile or child abusers registers and whether David Payne was on that list."

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That is what I find the most incredible thought - could David Payne ever have been Tannerman?  Smithman hadn't been mentioned by that stage had he?

[jassi]

That is what I find the most incredible thought - could David Payne ever have been Tannerman? Smithman hadn't been mentioned by that stage had he?

Only if the rest of the group have been telling lots and lots of porkies

[misty]

That is what I find the most incredible thought - could David Payne ever have been Tannerman?  Smithman hadn't been mentioned by that stage had he?

The hair, Rob - or rather the lack of it - tends to suggest he wasn't, unless certain beliefs that he was easily mistaken for RM in the dark are realistic.