Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?

[G-Unit]

Well according to Yvonne it was much earlier than what Jon admits.

I think Len Port was first on the scene. By the time Jon Clarke arrived the McCanns were in Portimao with the police.

[slartibartfast]

Was that at a multi disciplinary meeting in his professional capacity? ... as someone involved in a custody dispute? ... or was she even clear that she had met him at all?

What difference does it make, she thought she recognised him and due to her line of work thought it best if was checked out. Surely you wouldn’t expect her just to file it as not relevant?

[Robittybob1]

I think Len Port was first on the scene. By the time Jon Clarke arrived the McCanns were in Portimao with the police.

@algarvnewswatch  Hi Len were you the first journalist to turn up in PdL after Madeleine McCann went missing?

[Robittybob1]

Len Port 

[barrier]

The purpose of the picture is?

[Robittybob1]

The purpose of the picture is?

I seem to recall seeing his face in the very early news reports that day.  They called him a local didn't they?
I was wrong it was Mark McCarrick.  https://youtu.be/RazOGuQ_r8E?t=219

[barrier]

I seem to recall seeing his face in the very early news reports that day.  They called him a local didn't they?

Local to where? Algarve would encompass a wide area,going off topic here.

[barrier]

I seem to recall seeing his face in the very early news reports that day.  They called him a local didn't they?
I was wrong it was Mark McCarrick.  https://youtu.be/RazOGuQ_r8E?t=219

Interesting he thought woke and wandered.

[Robittybob1]

Here is an interesting bit "Len Port, who has lived in Portugal since the 1980s, was among the first journalists to reach the apartment. He spoke to Kate McCann the morning after Madeleine was reported missing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/mccann_shadow
"The village was very quiet - no-one on the streets," recalls Mr Port, who was freelancing for a British newspaper at the time.

"I drove round until I saw a parked police vehicle, and I stopped and parked behind it. I realised I had got to the site from which Madeleine had gone missing.

"I saw two women standing there and one of them looked distressed. I could see that one was particularly distressed and I guessed this must be the mother of the missing child.""  The other lady could well have been Yvonne Martin.

[barrier]

"I saw two women standing there and one of them looked distressed. I could see that one was particularly distressed and I guessed this must be the mother of the missing child.""  The other lady could well have been Yvonne Martin.

That would tie in with your post No2 on this thread.

[Robittybob1]

That would tie in with your post No2 on this thread.

And that it was early still deserted. 

[jassi]

And that it was early still deserted.

That's because people were kept awake by all the hooha the night before and were trying to get some rest

[kizzy]

That's because people were kept awake by all the hooha the night before and were trying to get some rest

Also the searching.

[Carana]

It could have come from anywhere, but I personally doubt whether Yvonne would have anything to do with it.

From memory, this emerged in the PT media onslaught that accelerated (beyond the "full DNA match in the boot" saga) as soon as the McCanns left to go back to the UK. There was a new wild story almost every day.

I have no reason to believe that she personally leaked to the media, however raising the possibility of a different biological father with the PJ might have been enough to set those naughty fans into overdrive at the time of that concentrated media blitz.

I'm trying to remember back when first wading through the files what I thought the thinking may have been for that particular item of scoopoid gobbledygook.



- YM wanted to raise the issue of a potentially different biological dad (to me, that could explain wanting to talk to Kate on her own in the event of an extra-marital affair and the "real" one deciding to abduct her).

- The PJ DID apparently have a question mark over Madeleine's DNA... as GA didn't realise until very late in the day that the INML didn't actually have her reference sample to hand to compare it with.

Take the bold bit out of context...


01-01-Outros Apensos I, Volume I Pages 202 to 204
01_volume_I_o_apenso_I_Page_202
01_volume_I_o_apenso_I_Page_203
Date: 28.08.2007

Letter to Dr. Gonçalo Amaral from the PT Genetic & Biological Forensic Service

I attach a response to your questions.

Warmest compliments,
Director of the Genetic & Biological Forensic Service,
Dr. Rosa Maria Espinheira


RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS

- None of the samples received by this institute were designated as relating to the missing child, so an answer to your question cannot be provided.

- Samples were investigated - hairs and cloth, and DNA profiles were obtained in only four cases and when compared with the DNA of Gerald and Kate McCann it was found that they cannot be related to the child.

- The traces were then studied for mitochondrial DNA as were all the references with results in accordance with our conclusions in the report dated July 9, 2007 - Proc 2007/000226/LX-BC.

- Regarding your request no. 5, determine if the 'profile' obtained by the British laboratory may pertain to a child of the McCann couple.

- We carried out a profile comparison obtained from the autosomal STRs of Kate McCann and Gerald McCann and of the profile sent us.

- The probability of the McCann couple being the biological parents of the female individual in that test is 99,9828 %.

Lisbon, 20th August, 2007

The Director of the Genetic & Biological Forensic Service

Dr. Rosa Maria Espinheira
 
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELEINES_DNA.htm#oa1v1p269

- There were only 15 alleles in the boot soup, which may have been perceived to have been a bit of a hiccup over the assertions only a few weeks prior to that of the "full DNA boot" BS.

It would only take a short leap into reality-suspension for some to then conclude that - as the media had already been fed that story - the reason why expected alleles from the combined profiles of Kate and Gerry weren't all present was that Gerry wasn't the dad.

Simples. Face saved.


IMO.

[ShiningInLuz]

I think Len Port was first on the scene. By the time Jon Clarke arrived the McCanns were in Portimao with the police.

Has anyone nailed a time as to when the video of them getting into the police car to go to Portimão was taken?

Mr Clarke's piece seems very short on accuracy and high on emotion.