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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2014, 06:20:20 PM »
You need to make up your mind how you want to use that argument and its reciprocal as it were.
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it's 100% true...what's your problem with it

Estuarine

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Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2014, 08:16:21 PM »
Where does the court say there is no evidence...where do I say there appears to be....you have made both these statements up...do you have a problem with the truth
I don't; but you appear to work on the ethos of mine enemy's enemy must be my friend.
Amaral bad! no say good thing about Amaral! Amaral bad! McCann propaganda say Amaral bad; davel McCann friend
Amaral bad!
Forgive the simplistic syntax but your attitude toward Dr Amaral deserves it. When will you realise that in terms of the Madeleine McCann case Dr Amaral is yesterdays news apart from a postponed libel trial which has no bearing on the fate of the child or any offence which may or may not have been committed against her.
Mai vraiment, mon ami, vous etes comme une lampe du Toc  H


stephen25000

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Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2014, 08:18:46 PM »
what have I stated that isn't true...you don't understand what is and isn't true



No davel, I know what is true and what isn't.

I also know exactly what your motives are and what you represent. Make no mistake on that.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2014, 08:25:41 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2014, 08:23:17 PM »
I don't; but you appear to work on the ethos of mine enemy's enemy must be my friend.
Amaral bad! no say good thing about Amaral! Amaral bad! McCann propaganda say Amaral bad; davel McCann friend
Amaral bad!
Forgive the simplistic syntax but your attitude toward Dr Amaral deserves it. When will you realise that in terms of the Madeleine McCann case Dr Amaral is yesterdays news apart from a postponed libel trial which has no bearing on the fate of the child or any offence which may or may not have been committed against her.
Mai vraiment, mon ami, vous etes comme une lampe du Toc  H




I like to live my life by the motto "My enemy's enemy is my friend."

Unfortunately, as it turns out, my enemy is his own worst enemy.
I stand with Putin. Glory to Mother Putin.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2014, 08:44:57 PM »
I don't; but you appear to work on the ethos of mine enemy's enemy must be my friend.
Amaral bad! no say good thing about Amaral! Amaral bad! McCann propaganda say Amaral bad; davel McCann friend
Amaral bad!
Forgive the simplistic syntax but your attitude toward Dr Amaral deserves it. When will you realise that in terms of the Madeleine McCann case Dr Amaral is yesterdays news apart from a postponed libel trial which has no bearing on the fate of the child or any offence which may or may not have been committed against her.
Mai vraiment, mon ami, vous etes comme une lampe du Toc  H

you were the one who made a post saying amaral had been found not guilty of torture...I correctly pointed out that he had not been declared innocent...both you and Stephen cannot understand logic or the law
« Last Edit: April 03, 2014, 08:47:03 PM by davel »

stephen25000

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Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2014, 08:48:42 PM »
you were the one who made a post saying amaral had been found not guilty of torture...I correctly pointed out that he had not been declared innocent...both you and Stephen cannot understand logic or the law


Dear oh dear.

Like I said, your motives are crystal  clear.

stephen25000

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Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2014, 09:13:35 PM »
you really are having problems keeping up...you introduced the mcccanns to this thread at post 93...I have simply replied to you

I know what I did davel, now answer the questions.

As to Correia, a rather nasty and unpleasant piece of work, don't you agree davel ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2014, 09:16:24 PM »
I know what I did davel, now answer the questions.

As to Correia, a rather nasty and unpleasant piece of work, don't you agree davel ?

So you accept that it was you who introduced the mccanns to the thread.....I've seen nothing to suggest hes an unpleasant person...lots of gossip...but how much is true

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2014, 09:19:08 PM »
A brief insight into the life of Marcos Aragão Correia

1975 - Born: Madeira.

2000? - Aged 25, sets up legal practice in Madeira claiming he ‘specialises in human rights’ cases.

2001? - He sets himself up as head of a ‘Human Rights Association’, ACED, widely regarded as a self-promotional ‘joke’ in Portugal, and which has a track record of making outrageous legal claims.

2004? - Co-founds right-wing, nationalist, political party, which as yet has little popular support and no MPs or Councillors. That party has taken into membership a number of people with neo-Nazi ideology, some of them who have served prison sentences for their crimes.

3 May 2007 - Madeleine McCann reported missing.

5 May 2007 - He now claims that on this day, two days after Madeleine was reported missing, he attended a spiritualist church on Madeira for the first time, and on returning home, sometime before midnight, had a vision in which he learnt that Madeleine had been raped by paedophiles and killed (see also below). NOTE: We do not accept this account as truthful. He had previously claimed that ‘underworld sources’ had told him about Madeleine having been abducted, raped and killed (see next item)

6 May 2007 - This is the day Marcos Aragão Correia had previously claimed that his underworld sources told him that Madeleine McCann had been raped and killed and her body thrown into a ‘murky lake’. He later admitted that this had been a lie.

9 May 2007 - He claimed that on this day he told the Portuguese Police what the underworld sources had told him about Madeleine being killed. He says the PJ ignored him.

21 June 2007 - Aragão Correia organises a release of yellow balloons on Madeira in support of the McCanns’ claims that Madeleine had been abducted. This is the first clear sign that he was actively supporting the McCanns’ campaign.

June to November 2007 - There is no information about his actions during this period, except claiming that he sent a recorded delivery letter to the McCanns (see below). Other evidence (see below) suggests that by September 2007, or soon afterwards, he was probably in touch with private detectives from Método 3, negotiating a lucrative financial deal with them, on behalf of the McCanns, to (a) arrange searches of the Arade Dam (see below) and (b) to represent child murderess and serial liar Leonor Cipriano in a set of legal proceedings primarily intended to target Gonçalo Amaral.

2 Oct 2007 - Claims to have sent a Recorded Delivery letter from Madeira to the McCanns in Rothley on that date, allegedly containing details of ‘vital clues and evidence’ in the case. He also says that he had earlier notified the Polícia Judiciária in Funchal (Madeira) about his concerns but got no reply.

17 Oct 2007 - Says he was notified that the Recorded Delivery letter never arrived to the McCanns, although allegedly the letter was ‘signed for’.

13 Nov 2007 - Mysteriously sues the Portuguese postal service (the Correios de Portugal - CTT) for allegedly failing to deliver this letter. He told the court that heard his claim: “They are controversial matters, because there is no material proof of them, but I assure you there is a high degree of credibility about them. I am fulfilling my duty as a Portuguese citizen to take my ideas to the right place. I took my ideas to the PJ in Funchal, but since they didn’t reply, I took them direct to the McCanns”. He says a CTT official falsely reported that the Recorded Delivery letter had been received. The judge dismissed Aragão Correia’s claim as unsubstantiated and ordered him to pay court costs of 100 euros (around £80). Source: Madeira Daily News, 13 Nov 2007.

10 Dec 2007 - Says that on this day, he personally visited the Arade Dam with Método 3 detectives. He says that on the same day, he also told the Portuguese Police about his theory that Madeleine’s body was probably lying in the Arade Dam, near the tower by the lake. He said he had reached this conclusion after carefully considering information he said he had received from ‘underworld sources’, who told him that Madeleine’s body was ‘in a murky lake, with a beach, near some trees’. Later, when questions were asked about his sources of information and why he hadn’t acted sooner, he changed his story to say that he had had a ‘supernatural indication’ or ‘vision’ of where Madeleine’s body might be (see below).

Dec 2007 - late Jan 2008 - Said Portuguese Police did ‘nothing’ to act on his ‘information’.

Jan 2008 - Says that he paid British divers from Dive Time, Lagos, Algarve to search one part of the Arade Dam at a cost of at least £1,200 a day. He says he did this out of the goodness of his own heart, but he later conceded that Método 3 paid him ‘expenses’ [denied by Método 3]. He was described in sections of the British press as ‘a Good Samaritan’ for apparently funding these searches out of his own pocket. The media were conveniently on hand to record the discovery of a 17-foot length of cord, which he said ‘could have been used to tie up Madeleine’. At the same time the head of the Portuguese Police publicly stated that in his opinion the McCanns were made arguidos ‘hastily’ by Gonçalo Amaral and his colleagues.

Mar 2008 - Further search of the dam, this time managing to find ‘two black plastic bags of bones’ in the lake. Once again, media were on hand to take photos of Dive Time divers, bags of bones etc. - there were lots of pictures of divers in black wet-suits in British media. Aragão Correia says he is ‘99% certain that Madeleine’s body will be found here’ in the Arade Dam.

These stories served a number of purposes, including:

(a) promoting the claim by the head of the Portuguese police that they had acted ‘hastily’ in making Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann suspects
(b) promoting the notion that the Portuguese police had been incompetent by (allegedly) deliberately ignoring the vital evidence of Mr Aragão Correia’s underworld sources that Madeleine had been killed and her body dumped at the bottom of a murky lake
(c) re-opening the possibility that Madeleine’s body being dumped in the Arade Dam tied in with the suspicious sighting of a woman transferring a young child to another car in the Silves area, the woman being said to look like Michaela Walczuch, Robert Murat’s girlfriend
(d) promoting the view that Dr Gerald and Kate McCann were not responsible for what happened to Madeleine. Aragão Correia said: “I don't believe Kate and Gerry did it. It could have been a single madman or a gang”.

Mar - October 2008 - Silence from Aragão Correia, apart from, in the background...

8 April 2008 - Visits Leonor Cipriano in Odemira Prison and has discussions with the Prison Governor there.

October 2008 - Dramatically pops up in court to replace the lawyer representing the serial liar and murderess of her own daughter, Leonor Cipriano, currently serving a 16-year jail term for murder, in her claim that a confession was beaten out of her by Gonçalo Amaral and his four detectives. The original claim against Mr Amaral had been made in 2006 by other lawyers but was now, suddenly, being handled by Marcos Aragão Correia.

November 2008 - Admits to a proposed deal to ‘crucify Gonçalo Amaral’, He tells the lawyer representing the four detectives accused together with Gonçalo Amaral that his detectives will only get suspended sentences for a more minor offence if they give evidence against Gonçalo Amaral and state that it was he who ordered the torture and that he was there when it happened.

November 2008 - Calls defence lawyer for Gonçalo Amaral, Mr Cabrita, a ‘goat’ in the court room [‘cabrita’ is also the Portuguese word for goat].

21 January 2009 - Suspended as a lawyer/barrister by the Madeira Bar Association [Madeira Lawyers’ Order] and thrown out of court by the trial judge in the case against Mr Amaral based on Ms Cipriano’s allegations. He was later allowed to continue representing Ms Cipriano.

22 May 2009 - Wins the case against Gonçalo Amaral, at which Mr Amaral gets an 18-month suspended jail sentence for allegedly filing a false report. Says triumphantly: “Gonçalo Amaral has been convicted. The target has been hit”.

8 June 2009 - Brings new proceedings against Gonçalo Amaral on behalf of Leonor Cipriano, claiming once more that Amaral’s men had tortured her.

July 2009 - Brings further new proceedings against Gonçalo Amaral, this time on behalf of Leonor Cipriano’s former partner, António Leandro David da Silva, who also alleged that he had been assaulted by Amaral’s men.

3 October 2009 - Tries to sabotageGonçalo Amaral’s birthday partyby driving up outside the restaurant where the party was being held, making a provocative obscene gesture, and then fabricating to the Public Ministry Police claiming that he had been assaulted.

so how much of this can be substantiated

Offline John

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2014, 12:21:23 AM »
John's summary:

Jan 2008 - Says that he paid British divers from Dive Time, Lagos, Algarve to search one part of the Arade Dam at a cost of at least £1,200 a day. He says he did this out of the goodness of his own heart, but he later conceded that Método 3 paid him ‘expenses’ [denied by Método 3].

John seems to have found something to indicate that M3 denied funding Marcos, but he hasn't posted the sources.

Could you provide some kind of reliable source about this, John? What, if any, these expenses actually concerned? He might well have been paid expenses to be interviewed by the PIs to check if he had any knowledge of what may have happened to her. I don't see a problem with that. Is there anything verifiable beyond that? It may even be possible that costs were paid to check the lake. I wouldn't have a problem with that either (if ever that was the case). The hunt for little April was massive and if the police hadn't explored that possibility, there may have been a missed lead.

Marcos Correia had initially claimed that he was a ‘Good Samaritan’, funding searches of the dam, costing £1,200 a day, out of his pocket. Under questioning, he later admitted that Metodo 3 had paid him ‘expenses’ for the searches. It thus appeared that the divers were funded not by Mr Correia, but by Metodo 3, who were in turn funded by the McCanns.  His claim to be a Good Samaritan was exposed as yet another of Mr Correia’s lies, but, just as important, it raised these questions:
Was Marcos Correia paid more than just ‘expenses’ for his Arade Dam searches? – and
Did the McCann Team authorise payment to be made to Mr Correia to carry out those searches?

 

At the time of the second search of the Arade Dam, one newspaper reported the McCanns as being ‘furious’. It claimed: “Kate and Gerry McCann reacted with fury yesterday after divers began a second search of a reservoir for Madeleine's body. The couple told friends that the search - funded by a Portuguese lawyer who they claim is a ‘fantasist’ seeking publicity - is a distraction from the hunt”.

The report continued:  “Marcos Aragão Correia claims crime contacts told him she was killed and left in the lake two days after going missing. Correia spent thousands of pounds on a previous search but found nothing. But a McCann source said: ‘There's no evidence Madeleine is in that reservoir. They believe she is alive and are concentrating on finding her’.”

It is conceded by the McCanns that Método 3 were acting for them from September 2007.

We have also established that Método 3 was in contact with Marcos Correia by 10 December 2007, when their detectives met him at the Arade Dam.

We know that Método 3 paid at least expenses to Marcos Correia for the Arade dam searches.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2014, 08:00:56 AM »
Marcos Correia had initially claimed that he was a ‘Good Samaritan’, funding searches of the dam, costing £1,200 a day, out of his pocket. Under questioning, he later admitted that Metodo 3 had paid him ‘expenses’ for the searches. It thus appeared that the divers were funded not by Mr Correia, but by Metodo 3, who were in turn funded by the McCanns.  His claim to be a Good Samaritan was exposed as yet another of Mr Correia’s lies, but, just as important, it raised these questions:
Was Marcos Correia paid more than just ‘expenses’ for his Arade Dam searches? – and
Did the McCann Team authorise payment to be made to Mr Correia to carry out those searches?

 

At the time of the second search of the Arade Dam, one newspaper reported the McCanns as being ‘furious’. It claimed: “Kate and Gerry McCann reacted with fury yesterday after divers began a second search of a reservoir for Madeleine's body. The couple told friends that the search - funded by a Portuguese lawyer who they claim is a ‘fantasist’ seeking publicity - is a distraction from the hunt”.

The report continued:  “Marcos Aragão Correia claims crime contacts told him she was killed and left in the lake two days after going missing. Correia spent thousands of pounds on a previous search but found nothing. But a McCann source said: ‘There's no evidence Madeleine is in that reservoir. They believe she is alive and are concentrating on finding her’.”

It is conceded by the McCanns that Método 3 were acting for them from September 2007.

We have also established that Método 3 was in contact with Marcos Correia by 10 December 2007, when their detectives met him at the Arade Dam.

We know that Método 3 paid at least expenses to Marcos Correia for the Arade dam searches.

How much of what you are posting is true...you have been asked for sources and replied .."the internet"...what you are posting is internet gossip...but it doesn't matter because it isn't important

stephen25000

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Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2014, 08:07:13 AM »
How much of what you are posting is true...you have been asked for sources and replied .."the internet"...what you are posting is internet gossip...but it doesn't matter because it isn't important

AH YES, THE MCCANN MANTRA.

Deflect from the truth.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2014, 08:09:38 AM »
AH YES, THE MCCANN MANTRA.

Deflect from the truth.

no just asking for the truth

stephen25000

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Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2014, 08:12:14 AM »
no just asking for the truth

You got the truth.

That's the trouble with the mccanns and associates.

You can't always bend the truth to suit your purposes.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2014, 08:21:07 AM »
You got the truth.

That's the trouble with the mccanns and associates.

You can't always bend the truth to suit your purposes.

all these accusationsd against the lawyer are internet gossip...but to you the truth...that's shows what you are