Scottish history, nationhood and independence.

[G-Unit]

Oh me too! I love the sea, we have a wonderful coastline, some are quite exotic further north.Cornwall has the best surfing though.

In the Hebrides the sea is a different colour every day, and so clear you can see the bottom. The sand is white like a tropical island. My next door neighbour was a diver, and he used to bring scallops, crab and lobster. It was just as beautiful in Winter as in Summer too. My husband got to go to St Kilda for a few days, as there was still an army base there then. I'm not sure about now.

[G-Unit]

I see sectarianism is raising it's head in Glasgow this weekend. What a distructive force it is.

[Mr Gray]

I see sectarianism is raising it's head in Glasgow this weekend. What a distructive force it is.

Intolerance of other peoples views is a very destructive,  force

[Miss Taken Identity]

I see sectarianism is raising it's head in Glasgow this weekend. What a distructive force it is.

Yes, so ugly!

I do believe n the right to protest peacefully, some people are just so angry .

I am confused as to why Irish people are protesting/Marching in Scotland. do they never march in England I wonder why not.

[G-Unit]

Yes, so ugly!

I do believe n the right to protest peacefully, some people are just so angry .

I am confused as to why Irish people are protesting/Marching in Scotland. do they never march in England I wonder why not.

I don't think they're protest marches, and I think they're Scottish people, not Irish. Of course many Ulster Protestants have Scottish ancestors. There are Orange Lodges in England and they do parade, but no-one takes much notice. There's a parade in Southport every year, organised by Lodges from Liverpool.
https://www.lancs.live/whats-on/whats-on-news/live-orange-lodge-marches-through-16573899

[Miss Taken Identity]

I don't think they're protest marches, and I think they're Scottish people, not Irish. Of course many Ulster Protestants have Scottish ancestors. There are Orange Lodges in England and they do parade, but no-one takes much notice. There's a parade in Southport every year, organised by Lodges from Liverpool.
https://www.lancs.live/whats-on/whats-on-news/live-orange-lodge-marches-through-16573899

I was talking about the Irish republican march the IRA one. That is what clashed.

[G-Unit]

I was talking about the Irish republican march the IRA one. That is what clashed.

Why do the Orangemen think they are the only ones who should be allowed to march?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Why do the Orangemen think they are the only ones who should be allowed to march?

I don't know what the orangemen think, and don't much care. I was comparing the reasons for the marches.

Orangemen/women stand for  a united kingdom they are UK citizens. The IRA are Irish why would the Uk want to pay any attention to their demands - why are they marching in other words.

A few years ago many citizens in a particular area were told by police (by catholic run council) to remove the union Jack as visiting Irish fans would be offended- but it was ok fornt hem to fly their tricolour that wasn't offensive at all to anyone...

I forgot to keep up with that story to see if it changed. Well the hatred on both sides is still there.

[G-Unit]

I don't know what the orangemen think, and don't much care. I was comparing the reasons for the marches.

Orangemen/women stand for  a united kingdom they are UK citizens. The IRA are Irish why would the Uk want to pay any attention to their demands - why are they marching in other words.

A few years ago many citizens in a particular area were told by police (by catholic run council) to remove the union Jack as visiting Irish fans would be offended- but it was ok fornt hem to fly their tricolour that wasn't offensive at all to anyone...

I forgot to keep up with that story to see if it changed. Well the hatred on both sides is still there.

Orangemen/women don't just stand for a United Kingdom, they stand for a Protestant United Kingdom.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Orangemen/women don't just stand for a United Kingdom, they stand for a Protestant United Kingdom.

Ahh OK bit pointless now since we are multi cultural. The chapels  were fuller when catholic countries  within the EU sent in their worshippers I am told.

I take it this was a battle to have a Roman pope  or a king/queen as head of state in the UK?  The Pope lost?

I read somewhere Many in  Ireland  are moving away from the RC churches due to the henious crimes against the citizens by nuns and priests. I partially caught that on a documentary...

I have no religion, so I am not up on these matters only when things are highlighted.

[G-Unit]

Ahh OK bit pointless now since we are multi cultural. The chapels  were fuller when catholic countries  within the EU sent in their worshippers I am told.

I take it this was a battle to have a Roman pope  or a king/queen as head of state in the UK?  The Pope lost?

I read somewhere Many in  Ireland  are moving away from the RC churches due to the henious crimes against the citizens by nuns and priests. I partially caught that on a documentary...

I have no religion, so I am not up on these matters only when things are highlighted.

Ulster's land was deliberately given to Protestants from Scotland and England by James 1st during the 17th Century.
 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Ulster's land was deliberately given to Protestants from Scotland and England by James 1st during the 17th Century.

My guess was good- a power struggle between the church of Rome and Royalty for the 'head of state' ruler of a kingdom.  Both inflicted horrors on the people of the nations. I vote for none of the above! lol

Meanwhile the SNP (Scottish Nazi Party) has  some great Ideas...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11221902/Legal-fight-starts-over-SNP-state-guardian-for-every-child.html

[G-Unit]

My guess was good- a power struggle between the church of Rome and Royalty for the 'head of state' ruler of a kingdom.  Both inflicted horrors on the people of the nations. I vote for none of the above! lol

Meanwhile the SNP (Scottish Nazi Party) has  some great Ideas...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11221902/Legal-fight-starts-over-SNP-state-guardian-for-every-child.html

Interesting. Is there any evidence that teachers have the skills required, I wonder? If I was a teacher I'm not sure I would want that responsibilty. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Interesting. Is there any evidence that teachers have the skills required, I wonder? If I was a teacher I'm not sure I would want that responsibilty.

When you think about the child abuse  by many professions, it beggars belief  that some actually think  children should have a stranger thrust upon them. The state should only intefere when there is a right to do so.

[G-Unit]

When you think about the child abuse  by many professions, it beggars belief  that some actually think  children should have a stranger thrust upon them. The state should only intefere when there is a right to do so.

In my youth parents were scrutinised by family, friends and neighbours. That system has disappeared, but I don't think this Bill is the answer. Even social workers and doctors have failed to spot problems, why should others with no expertise suceed?