Brexit has well and truly begun!

[Angelo222]

I can understand that. Many in Scotland must feel aggrieved at having voted 62% (or whatever it was) to stay and being forced to go with the global vote, plus  the fact that ROI might well get a better overall deal. Such a shame, IMO.

The Scottish independence referendum and the EU withdrawal vote in Scotland had almost identical results. 1.6 million voted for Independence and 1.6 million voted to stay in the EU. You could say this represents the SNP vote in Scotland.

Since the electorate in Scotland is around 4 million then clearly only 40% of the Scottish electorate voted to stay in the EU, the other 60% either voted leave or couldn't care less anyway.

Nicola Sturgeon does not speak for the majority in Scotland despite holding power at Holyrood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Scotland

[Erngath]

Imagine how it feels for a nation to vote and to know that their vote is pointless.
If every voter in Scotland vote Labour but the voters of England vote Conservative, then we are ruled by a Conservative gornment.
And of course the same would apply if every voter in Scotland voted Conservative but the voters in England voted in Labour.

Can you not appreciate the difference in a nation having to accept that which they did not vote for.
Not quite the same as individual voters in a constituency.

Many Brexiteers have voiced that there will be difficulties in leaving the EU but are willing to accept this in order to leave the EU.
Many here appreciate that there would be difficulties when leaving the the UK union but are willing to accept those to become an independent nation.

[Carana]

Only 40% of the Scottish electorate voted to stay in the EU, the other 60% either voted leave or couldn't care less to vote anyway.

38% Leave, 62% voted Remain according to the BBC  results. Do you have different info? If so, please cite.
https://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

[Angelo222]

38% Leave, 62% voted Remain according to the BBC  results. Do you have different info? If so, please cite.
https://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

See my post above.  Those percentages only reflect actual votes and not the total electorate.  The electorate in Scotland is 4 million. Only 1.6 million voted for Independence and to remain in the EU.

[Sunny]

38% Leave, 62% voted Remain according to the BBC  results. Do you have different info? If so, please cite.
https://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

I don't know the figures but looking at the electorate total and how many actually voted it think Angelo is correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Scotland

[Carana]

Imagine how it feels for a nation to vote and to know that their vote is pointless.
If every voter in Scotland vote Labour but the voters of England vote Conservative, then we are ruled by a Conservative gornment.
And of course the same would apply if every voter in Scotland voted Conservative but the voters in England voted in Labour.

Can you not appreciate the difference in a nation having to accept that which they did not vote for.
Not quite the same as individual voters in a constituency.

Many Brexiteers have voiced that there will be difficulties in leaving the EU but are willing to accept this in order to leave the EU.
Many here appreciate that there would be difficulties when leaving the the UK union but are willing to accept those to become an independent nation.

The far-right and those pulling the strings may have won, if the long-term game was to break up the UK.

[Venturi Swirl]

The Scottish independence referendum and the EU withdrawal vote in Scotland had almost identical results. 1.6 million voted for Independence and 1.6 million voted to stay in the EU. You could say this represents the SNP vote in Scotland.

Since the electorate in Scotland is around 4 million then clearly only 40% of the Scottish electorate voted to stay in the EU, the other 60% either voted leave or couldn't care less anyway.

Nicola Sturgeon does not speak for the majority in Scotland despite holding power at Holyrood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Scotland

We can all play that game.  Only 38% of the English electorate voted to leave.

[Carana]

I don't know the figures but looking at the electorate total and how many actually voted it think Angelo is correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Scotland

Thanks  for the link, Sunny, but I'm still seeing the same result for Scotland. The only thing is that there was only a 67.25% turnout, which is less than for the UK as a whole.

[Angelo222]

If Sturgeon isn't careful she will end up another has-been just like Salmond.

[Carana]

See my post above.  Those percentages only reflect actual votes and not the total electorate.  The electorate in Scotland is 4 million. Only 1.6 million voted for Independence and to remain in the EU.

Ah.  Ok. If we exclude those who didn't vote, then Stephen was correct: only 37% of the UK electorate voted for Brexit. Plus whattever the percentage may have been of the 1 million + disenfranchised non-UK resident "expats".

[Venturi Swirl]

If Sturgeon isn't careful she will end up another has-been just like Salmond.

That’s how all politicians end up in case you hadn’t noticed.

[Carana]

That’s how all politicians end up in case you hadn’t noticed.

They are free to spout nonsense, then disappear when push comes to shove....

Or make noises about  starting a new party with a single purpose... lol

[Angelo222]

That’s how all politicians end up in case you hadn’t noticed.

   

Do you think Teflon Theresa will be the exception?

[Venturi Swirl]

 

Do you think Teflon Theresa will be the exception?

Ermm..she’s already a hasbeen and has been since the last election.

[Carana]

Government 'should shut down parliament' if MPs delay Brexit, says Jacob Rees-Mogg
The Brexiteer-in-chief calls for the government to take radical action if MPs succeed with plans to take control of Brexit.

By Greg Heffer, political reporter

Wednesday 23 January 2019 16:25, UK


Is it surprisinng if the EU reaction is to wake them up (my interpretation) when the UK has finally made its mind up as to what it actually wants?