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Please feel free to post any general interest news items on this thread which originate from the Portuguese Algarve.
Please do not post any news reports here which relate to Madeleine McCann or the search for her.
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Article dated 8 May 2015
Human bones found on rocks in Sagres, Western Algarve.
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PJ criminal police are investigating the discovery of human bones found on rocks at the base of a cliff near Praia do Beliche in Sagres on Wednesday morning (May 6).
The bones were discovered at around 11.30am by a shellfisherman. They are believed to be those of an adult man.
Lagos port’s captain Carvalho e Pinto reports that the bones were found in an area with little access. They have now been taken to Portimão’s office of legal medicine, where they will be studied to see if identity can be established.
“This coast is very dangerous,” one of the firemen who recovered the bones told reporters. “Falls here tend to be fatal.”
It is not the first time human bones have been found on cliffs near Praia do Beliche.
In 2011, the bones of an 18-month-old child were found in the same area. The child disappeared after her mother, Angolan Georgina Zito, was allegedly drowned by her German lover, Gunnar Dorries, at Canavial beach in Lagos on July 10 (see story http://portugalresident.com/human-bones-belong-to-missing-child)
http://portugalresident.com/human-bones-found-on-rocks-in-sagres
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Whoever it is, at least some family may get closure over a loved one's disappearance, even though it won't be the outcome they hoped for.
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A young man from the town where I live disappeared when he went fishing on the cliffs and his body was never found. It could be his body.
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A young man from the town where I live disappeared when he went fishing on the cliffs and his body was never found. It could be his body.
I suppose with such a rugged Atlantic coastline this sort of thing happens quite often with all sorts of drift being washed up on the shores?
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I am aware of 2 other adult males who have disappeared in this end of the Algarve in the last few years - Scots chef working in Lagos late last year - and a Portuguese male about 3 years ago with personal belongings found in Boa Vista about 3 years ago.
I am not keeping track, so am sure there are others.
I'll wait and see if there are developments on this one.
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This is a very good example of the difference between an open minded approach to events and a close minded approach.
This article demonstrates that in this area it is possible for a body to be left for years before its remains are discovered.
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The Portuguese coast and countryside afford many opportunities to someone who might want to hide a body. The countryside in particular is pockmarked with wells and rock crevasses which can swallow up remains to the extent that they might never be found but will decay completely with the passage of time.
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Off-duty police officer catches beach thieves
IN NEWS · 20-05-2015
An off-duty PSP officer caught and arrested two young thieves on Torre beach on Oeiras on Monday after spotting a trio of them trying to stealing a mobile phone from a woman. After approaching the gang he was kicked and punched and the thieves ran off towards Carcavelos beach.
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The off-duty special agent managed to call for help and the three youths, one of them a fifteen-year-old, were later intercepted.
The minor was handed over to his parents, and the other two, aged 19 and 21, had their mobiles phones and a quantity of drugs seized from them.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/off-duty-police-officer-catches-beach-thieves/34835
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Outrage in Portugal over police beating of man in front of his children
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20 May 2015
Video footage of Jose Magalhaes being struck by police at Benfica football match has put family at centre of national scandal over alleged police brutality.
Video footage of a Portuguese policeman beating a middle-aged football fan in front of his two young sons has caused a national scandal in the country.
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Jose Magalhaes took his sons and his 66-year-old father to watch their team, Benfica, play an away fixture against Vitória de Guimarães. The 0-0 draw meant Benfica won the league title.
The video, which also shows the police officer punching Magalhaes’s father, has sparked outrage in Portugal and led to an official investigation by authorities of alleged police abuse of power.
Magalhaes, 42, told AP on Tuesday that police had allowed him and his sons to leave the stadium before others because his children, aged nine and 13, were being crushed as Benfica fans inside celebrated.
“It was supposed to be a day of celebration,” Magalhaes told AP in his hometown of Matosinhos.
The police force’s national headquarters said it has opened an investigation into the incident. The government department that oversees the police is also analysing police conduct.
The dramatic footage, played widely on Portuguese TV and social media, shows the Magalhaes family by a low wall outside the stadium, where the youngest child sat down and drank a bottle of water.
There were few other people in the vicinity because police were holding rival fans inside the stadium in northern Portugal, to avoid clashes in surrounding streets.
An officer questioned Magalhaes, then punched his father before using a truncheon to beat Magalhaes on the ground while his nine-year-old screamed: “Dad! Dad!”
“The policeman came over ... and asked us why we had brought children to a stadium if we knew there might be trouble,” Magalhaes said.
“I told him, gesticulating, that he should be more concerned about the problems inside the stadium.
“The next thing I know he’s on top of me.”
Another policeman in riot gear with a shield kept the 9-year-old child away and tried to pick him up as he cried.
Magalhaes said his first worry was his youngest son.
“The kid didn’t understand what was going on. I wanted to get over to him and comfort him ... and calm him down,” he said. Instead, Magalhaes was handcuffed and taken away.
Magalhaes said the policeman alleged at an initial court hearing on Monday that Magalhaes spat at him, a claim Magalhaes denied. Magalhaes said the police had previously been kind to him and his family by letting them leave the stadium early.
The incident has brought a flurry of investigations and charges.
Magalhaes’s lawyer, Sonia Carneiro, said police have brought a complaint of threatening behaviour and obstruction against Magalhaes.
After an initial hearing on Monday, the public prosecutor’s office is now investigating whether there is enough evidence to proceed with a formal charge against Magalhaes. There is no deadline for a decision.
Magalhaes said he and his father intend to file a complaint against the police, though he acknowledges that the one officer who hit him does not represent the entire police force.
Meanwhile, he has to explain what happened to his children. He and his wife had taught them that the police are their friends, he said, and they “couldn’t understand why the police acted like they did”.
As he nurses his bruises and stiffness, Magalhaes hopes an invitation from Benfica to watch next weekend’s final game of the season will help banish the bad memory.
“The physical part will heal faster than the psychological part,” he said.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/20/outrage-in-portugal-over-police-beating-of-man-in-front-of-his-children
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'Baton attack' policeman faces 8 years in jail
Created: 22 May 2015
Filipe Silva, the policeman who violently attacked two men after a football match in Guimarães last Sunday, has put himself at risk of an eight year jail sentence.
Silva has not apologised to José Magalhães (pictured) or his father, both of whom were attacked by the PSP commandante in front of José's 9 and 13 year-old children outside the Guimarães stadium.
A formal complaint against Silva’s violent behaviour was presented in court yesterday with statements from eight eye-witnesses who saw an attack which appeared to lack and credible legal motivation.
Businessman José Magalhães formally has accused the officer of two crimes of bodily harm each carrying a possible prison term of four years.
The complaint refers to an abuse of power, excessive use of force, and of aggression in the case of the 70-year-old father who twice was punched in the face by the angry officer.
Silva claims that Magalhães spat in his face, an allegation denied by Magalhães and the eye-witnesses. Even if this were true, the violence of the resulting attack was far in excess of any legitimate response.
As the attack was filmed and broadcast live, fans who had gathered in Lisbon watched it on the big screen in Marquês de Pombal square and reacted violently, later clashing with police in a night of violence.
Alongside the court action by Magalhães vs Comandante Silva there also is an internal investigation in to the Guimarães incident and into the violent clashes in Lisbon. A report must be produced within 30 days.
Peace-loving Portugal is let down by this sort of incident which not only was broadcast live, but later was seen across the world with the clip available almost instantly on YouTube.
The point of contact for many visitors to Portugal is at roadside police inspections which are intimidating and scary with officers often noted for their fundraising skills rather than communication abilities.
Riot police in full battle dress called to the open market at Barão de São João in the Algarve market hit the headlines as an example of disproportionate police action which left some in tears and many visibly distressed and intimidated.
'Proportinality' is often the complaint from the public which understands the need for a robust police force, but feels there has been an increasing in heavy-handedness, especially where motoring fines are concerned.
Filipe Silva, already known as a ‘handy’ policemen, filmed using a baton to hit a man already down on the ground, claims that Magalhães ‘provoked him’ because he know there was a cameraman nearby. The clip of the incident now has been viewed worldwide.
Knowing there was a film crew nearby was all the more reason for Silva to behave in a dignified manner that would have been a credit to his uniform, rather than making a name for himself for batoning an unarmed man already on the ground and thus gaining unwanted worldwide attention.
Whatever the result of the inquiry and court case, the damage to Portugal’s peace-loving image is done.
See also the BBC News report 'They hate black people'
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32419952?post_id=10153329395644948_10153330000884948#_=_
http://www.algarvedailynews.com/news/5681-baton-attack-policeman-faces-8-years-in-jail
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Riot police in full battle dress called to the open market at Barão de São João in the Algarve market hit the headlines as an example of disproportionate police action which left some in tears and many visibly distressed and intimidated.
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See also the BBC News report 'They hate black people'
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32419952?post_id=10153329395644948_10153330000884948#_=_
http://www.algarvedailynews.com/news/5681-baton-attack-policeman-faces-8-years-in-jail
We've got friends who run a bar/restaurant in nearby Barão de São João, and I hadn't heard of this incident . Must put some feelers out on this one.
As to the black people story, I can only tell you of my personal experiences.
I have never seen any form of discrimination or intolerance, whether by the locals or by the local police, towards black people on the Algarve. Or, for that matter, to Russians who work here for economic reasons, homosexuals who live and visit here, lesbians who live and visit hear, Chinese and Italians who work here, Germans, Irish or even the Brits.
This doesn't mean it does not happen. I have not visited Lisbon, let alone the poor parts of Lisbon, so I'm not rubbishing the BBC story.
All I can say is that there are lots of black people here in the Algarve, typically from the former Portuguese colony of Angola, who typically work hard and typically are given respect. They get employed, they make friends and they do really odd things like socialise with white and non-white people alike.
(So when someone tells you Euclidies had no reason to be in Luz on 3rd May 2007, you might wonder if he was here having a beer with his friends.)
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English girl has hair shaved as revenge
18-year-old English girl found abandoned.
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After being found in Alcantarilha the young girl was transported to hospital.
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By José Carlos Eusebio, Rui Gomes Pando
28 May 2015
They shaved her hair and made cuts to various parts of her body. The English girl, about 18, was then abandoned in a quiet area in Alcantarilha, in the municipality of Silves. The authorities suspect that she was the victim of a crime of passion.
The British girl was in complete panic when she was found late on Thursday night, near Alcantarilha station. Her hair was cut short and she had wounds inflicted on her chest, face, head and arms.
The crime was committed elsewhere and the young girl then taken to the area and abandoned. Authorities believe she had been the subject of a violent 'punishment', due to some romantic relationship. The Morning Post has discovered that suspicion now falls on two other women.
The English girl was assisted on site and then transported to the hospital. In addition to the physical wounds she has also suffered a great deal of psychological trauma. The girl came to fear for her life because of the violence to which she was subjected and is still now very frightened.
Due to the severity of the crime, the Judicial Police have taken over the investigation. Until yesterday, the authorities had still not made any arrests, but investigations are ongoing.
www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/raparam_cabelo_como_vinganca.html
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Refúgio invites readers to celebrate ‘British Friendship’
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in News · 28-05-2015
To celebrate World Child Day on 1 June, which falls next Monday, the Refúgio Aboim Ascenção
children’s home in Faro will be hosting a day of festivities to honour its close connections with the UK, for which it is extending an invitation to all members of the foreign community who would like to visit the institution on that day, meet its residents and learn more about its work.
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Currently home to 82 babies and young children, the Refúgio Aboim Ascenção is one of Portugal’s leading institutions in terms of child protection and early intervention.
Established in 1985 it is a private, internationally-recognised non-profit Christian Charity organisation dedicated to bettering the lives of abused, abandoned and neglected children under the age of six.
It follows a specialised model of ‘Infant Emergency’ (Emergência Infantil) care, dedicated to infants and young children at risk, which has earned numerous national and international awards including the prestigious Diana Princess of Wales Award in 1998.
In 1992 the Refúgio also became an honorary member of the council of the British NSPCC (National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children), and remains a role model for infant care around the globe.
But that is not where the British connection stops; over the years many members of the foreign community and well-known personalities of the UK, such as the late Sir Bobby Robson, have made major contributions towards the home’s development and raising its profile.
The celebrations to be held next Monday will be a nod to “British friendship.”
“Next Monday, 1 June, we are celebrating as usual World Child Day here at the Refúgio. This time there will be no government representatives, but we have invited the Ambassador of the UK to Portugal and the president of BP Portugal, among many other ‘familiar friends’, as you all are to us”, Luís Villas Boas, the intuition’s outspoken director told The Portugal News, in a message to its readers.
“We are having a very special day celebrating British friendship and togetherness. We will be inaugurating two new 18-seat vans acquired with funds from the last Sir Bobby Robson golf tournament gala dinner”, he explained, adding: “All readers are invited!”
During the ceremony on Monday, 1 June, which starts at 11am, a protocol of support will also be signed with BP Portugal, which will guarantee diesel supply for the eighth time for all of the institution’s nine vehicles.
For more information, see: www.refugio.pt, or call: 289 822 039.
www.theportugalnews.com/news/refugio-invites-readers-to-celebrate-british-friendship/34908
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How refreshing to see a positive story from Portugal 8((()*/
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Portugal: Two toddlers drown in pools
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in News · 01-06-2015
Two young children have drowned in swimming pools over the weekend in unrelated incidents.
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A three-year-old Portuguese boy drowned on Saturday evening in a pool at a private property in Albardeira, Lagos, in the Algarve.
According to newspaper Correio da Manhã emergency medics were called out at around 5.30pm.
Also that same evening a British toddler of the same age also drowned in a pool in a villa in Praia d’El Rei, in Óbidos, where he had been staying with his parents.
www.theportugalnews.com/news/two-toddlers-drown-in-pools/34925#comments
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Portugal: Two toddlers drown in pools
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in News · 01-06-2015
Two young children have drowned in swimming pools over the weekend in unrelated incidents.
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A three-year-old Portuguese boy drowned on Saturday evening in a pool at a private property in Albardeira, Lagos, in the Algarve.
According to newspaper Correio da Manhã emergency medics were called out at around 5.30pm.
Also that same evening a British toddler of the same age also drowned in a pool in a villa in Praia d’El Rei, in Óbidos, where he had been staying with his parents.
www.theportugalnews.com/news/two-toddlers-drown-in-pools/34925#comments
Merde.
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Court fails to notify murderer
Correio da Manha
By Ana Palma
28 May 2015
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Barrocas Helena, mother of Ricardo Teixeira, waiting for justice for the death of son.
Ricardo Teixeira was aggressive target for four years and eventually died at the Hospital of Faro.
For the fifth time, it was yesterday postponed the Court of Portimão, the trial of a British security responsibility for the attack that caused the death of a 23 years in Oura, Albufeira, four years ago. The difficulty in notifying the defendant, 25, who went to England after the crime, is at the origin of the successive postponements. "I was afraid that this could happen, it's a shame. I suffer a lot and just wish this was over and do justice," he declared to the CM Barrocas Helena, mother of the victim, who appeared in court with placards to protest the situation. Fernando Cabrita, young family lawyer Ricardo Teixeira, confirmed the difficulty in notifying John Hodgson, which is in Kent, in the UK, the session start date led to further postponement. "Sometimes collaboration with the British authorities seems to work only to one side. I remember one case, very mediatic [the disappearance of Maddie McCann], in which the Portuguese authorities have done everything to help. Conversely, this collaboration has not gone very well, "he noted. At dawn on July 7, 2011, Ricardo was beaten on the head, in front of Matt's Bar in Oura. With the blow, the young man rolled down the stairs and suffered a head injury. He never recovered. He came into brain death and the death was declared a week later at the Hospital of Faro. John Hodgson meanwhile, traveled to England. The July 7, when complete four years of aggression, family and friends will gather on the avenue Sá Carneiro (street of Oura bars) to deposit candles and a wreath near the site of the tragedy.
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Anyone who reads my blog at ShiningInLuz will be aware that I have treated gossip of a death of a competitor at the second annual Luz triathlon on 25 Apr 2015 as being incorrect.
I managed to find on-line that Felicity Williams, 44, from Tampa Florida, died while taking part in the swimming event of the Meek and Mighty triathlon on the 25 April 2015. It all fitted. Female, right age, triathlon, swimming, same day. How easy does it get?
Felicity Williams died whilst swimming in the Meek and Mighty 21st triathlon on 25 April 2015.
Diane Thomas died whilst swimming in the second annual triathlon in Luz, on 25 April 2015.
The story is on ShinigInLuz in full, but if you prefer an independent source, just Google "Diane Thomas" and triathlon. That's all it takes.
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@ShiningInLuz do you know what stage is construction at on the plot between R. 1 Maio and R. Escola Primeira?
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@ShiningInLuz do you know what stage is construction at on the plot between R. 1 Maio and R. Escola Primeira?
Yes.
Zero.
AFAIK, the plot is owned by the owner or owners of Estrela da Luz. It was meant to be another venture, but the property market took a steep nose dive (nothing to do with Madeleine).
The south end of the plot was used for a short while as a car park for Spar supermarket, post-Madeleine. That is what you see on Google streetview in Aug 2009.
If only I could get my hands on that plot then I would be a millionaire overnight.
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@Shining Thanks for your information. What sort of fence is around the north end of the plot now?
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At the time of the Madeleine incident there was a sheet metal fence about 1.8m high and painted in .... sorry can't remember. I it is on the videos of the time It shows up I believe on the video on Youtube of 4 May 2007 when the first batch of the Tapas 9 were taken to Portimão for their initial interviews. The site had a large sign on its corner emblazoned "Flor do Mar". Flower Of The Sea.
I think it also turns up on a video of the first Sunday when the McCanns went to mass at Nossa Senhora da Luz.
That fence is essentially the same fence that turns in in Google streetview of Aug 2009, except by that time the fence had become a bit decrepit. The building project had stopped. People had clonked down one side on the west to dump rubbish.
Google Earth traces what the fence went through.
What does the fence look like now (and for around the 3 years I have been here)? The metal panel fence was valuable. It is probably protecting another building site.
The current fence is also around 1.8m high. It consists of wooden posts with a green, plastic, wire mesh fence.
I doubt the current fence really tickles your interest.
Back in 2007, there were at least 2 ways to get over the fence. At the NW end and at the S end electricity cabinets made it easy to go over the top.
I'm fairly sure the 3rd obvious way, NW side under a gap between fence and ground , is on the forum from way back.
Fences'R'Us 8((()*/
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Thanks Shining. This was the closest unused land to the scene, and the most invisible.
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Sued for insulting GNR on Facebook
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Susana Soares will be the subject of a criminal complaint.
By JFS
23 June 2015
The National Republican Guard (GNR) will for the first time, prosecute a woman for offences written on the Facebook social network. Algarve resident Susana Soares, Fuseta, did not like to see the security force car parked in an area reserved for loading and unloading, just after she was fined 30 euros for the same reason. Outraged, the woman took photographs of the site depicting the vehicle of the GNR and used her personal Facebook account to show her discontent.
Susana Soares drew attention to the fact that none of the military were inside the car, but "inside the pastry shop having breakfast." The author of the publication explains that she took the pictures to, "show power and corruption in this country."
GNR refutes allegation
The GNR also used the same social network on the Internet to defend and refute the charges placed upon it by Susana Soares. The GNR admitted that the military "were in fact inside the pastry shop", but reiterates that the same were "trying to identify the driver of a heavy vehicle that parked in a place reserved for the disabled." "Having identified the situation the military GNR had no other suitable location to park to investigate the service vehicle in the area that is identified in the photograph," the spokesman added.
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www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/processada_por_insultar_gnr_no_facebook.html
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Is that any so different from Kate McCann insulting the two GNR officers who first attended their apartment on the night her daughter mysteriously disappeared?
Tweedledum and Tweedledee I believe were the derogatory terms she used in her Madeleine book.
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I do hope Soares also took a picture of the GNR officers stuffing their faces. That would take some explaining.
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I do hope Soares also took a picture of the GNR officers stuffing their faces. That would take some explaining.
is eating illegal?
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From Facebook
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UK police park illegally all the time when buying breakfast, even though they really shouldn't. What a storm in a teacup. (a breakfast cup, naturally)
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I believe the lady was upset because the guards were parked illegally in a spot which had just cost her 30 euros a few minutes earlier. At the very least they could have rescinded her penalty but that would have involved an admission of guilt on behalf of the guards. And as we all know, the Portuguese police do no wrong.
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I believe the lady was upset because the guards were parked illegally in a spot which had just cost her 30 euros a few minutes earlier. At the very least they could have rescinded her penalty but that would have involved an admission of guilt on behalf of the guards. And as we all know, the Portuguese police do no wrong.
The poor dears. Can't even have breakfast in peace!! @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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I believe the lady was upset because the guards were parked illegally in a spot which had just cost her 30 euros a few minutes earlier. At the very least they could have rescinded her penalty but that would have involved an admission of guilt on behalf of the guards. And as we all know, the Portuguese police do no wrong.
Nor do the UK police to be fair. Hillsborough? Took ages to get to the truth of that. A friend who was there told us exactly what happened, but it was hidden all this time.
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Portugal has more children “going hungry”
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26 June 2015
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The number of children who feel hungry because they haven’t had enough to eat at home rose in 2014, a study elaborated for the World Health Organisation has revealed.
Put together by researcher Margarida Gaspar de Matos, the study shows that of the 6,000 children interviewed “almost all” suffered from a nutritional problem even though 99% thought they had a healthy diet.
“Health Behaviour in School-aged Children” took place in Portugal among sixth to 10th grade state school children.
According to Observador website, the findings came after hunger levels had remained “stable” since 2006.
Coincidentally, the worrying news came on the same day that child poverty figures were released in the UK.
In this case, though the overall number of children in poverty has not risen, levels are deepening for those already worse off, reported Sky News.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
http://portugalresident.com/portugal-has-more-children-%E2%80%9Cgoing-hungry%E2%80%9D
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Portugal has more children “going hungry”
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26 June 2015
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The number of children who feel hungry because they haven’t had enough to eat at home rose in 2014, a study elaborated for the World Health Organisation has revealed.
Put together by researcher Margarida Gaspar de Matos, the study shows that of the 6,000 children interviewed “almost all” suffered from a nutritional problem even though 99% thought they had a healthy diet.
“Health Behaviour in School-aged Children” took place in Portugal among sixth to 10th grade state school children.
According to Observador website, the findings came after hunger levels had remained “stable” since 2006.
Coincidentally, the worrying news came on the same day that child poverty figures were released in the UK.
In this case, though the overall number of children in poverty has not risen, levels are deepening for those already worse off, reported Sky News.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
http://portugalresident.com/portugal-has-more-children-%E2%80%9Cgoing-hungry%E2%80%9D
Its not just Portugal, its everywhere in Europe that children are suffering because of austerity measures.
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International anti-bullfight network calls for ban on Portugal child spectators
The International Anti-Bullfighting Network, which is made up of some 100 animal rights organisations around the world, has called for a change in the law in Portugal that allows children as young as 12 to attend bullfights.
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Rita Silva, president of ANIMAL, the association in Portugal that heads the network in the country, told Lusa News Agency that the organisation “vehemently opposed any kind of violence” and that “children who are subjected to attending and working in this culture [of bullfighting] are expose to a kind of violence that they should not be.”
She recalled that a United Nations committee in February last year warned Portugal that allowing children to attend bullfights was in contravention of the UN Rights of the Child, and recommended that it restrict their access as either participants or spectators.
A law in effect in Portugal since April this year sets 16 as the youngest that anyone can take part or assist in a bullfight, while a law in effect since February last year established 12 as the minimum age to attend such a spectacle.
The Network attended a meeting with members of parliament on Tuesday at which it called for the abolition of bullfighting, as well as the protection of children, and also demanded that public funds not be used to fund the activity.
The Left Bloc party, which is organising the meeting, pledged in its election manifesto, published on Sunday, to end all public funding for bullfights and to start converting the country’s bullrings for other uses.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/international-anti-bullfight-network-calls-for-ban-on-portugal-child-spectators/35155
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Welshman warns Albufeira visitors to “be vigilant”
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by Carrie-Marie Bratley, in Algarve · 25-06-2015
A Welshman and his wife who fought off a would-be mugger during the early hours of Saturday morning in Albufeira spoke out about their ordeal to raise awareness and warn others to be vigilant.
The 63-year-old Welshman, a resident in Albufeira, and his wife, also 63, had been walking back home from the main part of the city at around 2am when they were set upon by the thief.
“We were near the globe roundabout when a man ran up from behind us and attempted to grab my wife’s handbag. She wouldn’t let go and then he started to get violent. He attacked me, punched my wife. He was determined to get her bag but after a few minutes he ran off”, the resident recalls.
Around half an hour later, according to the expat, another woman, the wife of a local businessman, was also mugged and in that case the assailant was successful in making off with his victim’s handbag.
“It’s the first time we’ve had any trouble since we’ve been here”, said the man, who has lived in Portugal for a year and nine months but visited regularly before immigrating; “We just want to warn people to be vigilant.”
However, despite suggestions that both muggings were carried out by the same individual, GNR police have told The Portugal News that in fact different perpetrators were responsible for the incidents.
Confirming a foreign couple was “importuned” by an individual who “threatened to rob them” on Saturday night at around 2am but was unsuccessful in doing so, a spokesperson for the force said a second incident involving a different victim had taken place 45 minutes later, but was not carried out by the same assailant.
In the latter instance, the source said, the victim was robbed and “after investigating we have a suspect and an arrest is expected imminently.”
www.theportugalnews.com/news/welshman-warns-albufeira-visitors-to-be-vigilant/35148
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I think this same story was in our press with a video. I wonder how many get across on a regular basis?
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Portuguese lorries invaded by Calais migrants
in News · 25-06-2015 14:02:00 · 0 Comments
Four lorries belonging to the Portuguese company Patinter were invaded on Tuesday at Calais Port in France by migrants trying to reach the UK.
According to a spokesperson for the company the trucks were broken into while in queues at Calais, or in some cases while moving.
The representative said no damage was caused to the lorries nor were the drivers ever at risk.
A strike this week forced the suspension of services through the Channel Tunnel between the UK and France which came as hundreds of migrants tried to board UK-bound lorries amid the chaos.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portuguese-lorries-invaded-by-calais-migrants/35150
http://epaper.theportugalnews.com/
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I think this same story was in our press with a video. I wonder how many get across on a regular basis?
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Portuguese lorries invaded by Calais migrants
in News · 25-06-2015 14:02:00 · 0 Comments
Four lorries belonging to the Portuguese company Patinter were invaded on Tuesday at Calais Port in France by migrants trying to reach the UK.
According to a spokesperson for the company the trucks were broken into while in queues at Calais, or in some cases while moving.
The representative said no damage was caused to the lorries nor were the drivers ever at risk.
A strike this week forced the suspension of services through the Channel Tunnel between the UK and France which came as hundreds of migrants tried to board UK-bound lorries amid the chaos.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portuguese-lorries-invaded-by-calais-migrants/35150
http://epaper.theportugalnews.com/
Its about time something was done about these chancers, for far too long England has been a soft target. They can be stopped and repatriated, all it needs is a government willing to do it whatever the cost. Recently it has been a case of get to London, expect to stay!
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Its about time something was done about these chancers, for far too long England has been a soft target. They can be stopped and repatriated, all it needs is a government willing to do it whatever the cost. Recently it has been a case of get to London, expect to stay!
I totally agree, John. They are having a laugh at our expense.
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Outrage in Portugal over police beating of man in front of his children
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20 May 2015
Video footage of Jose Magalhaes being struck by police at Benfica football match has put family at centre of national scandal over alleged police brutality.
Video footage of a Portuguese policeman beating a middle-aged football fan in front of his two young sons has caused a national scandal in the country.
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Jose Magalhaes took his sons and his 66-year-old father to watch their team, Benfica, play an away fixture against Vitória de Guimarães. The 0-0 draw meant Benfica won the league title.
The video, which also shows the police officer punching Magalhaes’s father, has sparked outrage in Portugal and led to an official investigation by authorities of alleged police abuse of power.
Magalhaes, 42, told AP on Tuesday that police had allowed him and his sons to leave the stadium before others because his children, aged nine and 13, were being crushed as Benfica fans inside celebrated.
“It was supposed to be a day of celebration,” Magalhaes told AP in his hometown of Matosinhos.
The police force’s national headquarters said it has opened an investigation into the incident. The government department that oversees the police is also analysing police conduct.
The dramatic footage, played widely on Portuguese TV and social media, shows the Magalhaes family by a low wall outside the stadium, where the youngest child sat down and drank a bottle of water.
There were few other people in the vicinity because police were holding rival fans inside the stadium in northern Portugal, to avoid clashes in surrounding streets.
An officer questioned Magalhaes, then punched his father before using a truncheon to beat Magalhaes on the ground while his nine-year-old screamed: “Dad! Dad!”
“The policeman came over ... and asked us why we had brought children to a stadium if we knew there might be trouble,” Magalhaes said.
“I told him, gesticulating, that he should be more concerned about the problems inside the stadium.
“The next thing I know he’s on top of me.”
Another policeman in riot gear with a shield kept the 9-year-old child away and tried to pick him up as he cried.
Magalhaes said his first worry was his youngest son.
“The kid didn’t understand what was going on. I wanted to get over to him and comfort him ... and calm him down,” he said. Instead, Magalhaes was handcuffed and taken away.
Magalhaes said the policeman alleged at an initial court hearing on Monday that Magalhaes spat at him, a claim Magalhaes denied. Magalhaes said the police had previously been kind to him and his family by letting them leave the stadium early.
The incident has brought a flurry of investigations and charges.
Magalhaes’s lawyer, Sonia Carneiro, said police have brought a complaint of threatening behaviour and obstruction against Magalhaes.
After an initial hearing on Monday, the public prosecutor’s office is now investigating whether there is enough evidence to proceed with a formal charge against Magalhaes. There is no deadline for a decision.
Magalhaes said he and his father intend to file a complaint against the police, though he acknowledges that the one officer who hit him does not represent the entire police force.
Meanwhile, he has to explain what happened to his children. He and his wife had taught them that the police are their friends, he said, and they “couldn’t understand why the police acted like they did”.
As he nurses his bruises and stiffness, Magalhaes hopes an invitation from Benfica to watch next weekend’s final game of the season will help banish the bad memory.
“The physical part will heal faster than the psychological part,” he said.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/20/outrage-in-portugal-over-police-beating-of-man-in-front-of-his-children
The punishment given to the person responsible .............................
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Officer caught beating Benfica fan suspended for 90 days
in News · 01-07-2015 08:29:00 · 0 Comments
A police officer who was filmed beating a Benfica fan in front of his young sons outside a stadium in Guimarães has been suspended from duties for three months.
Images of the incident which took place after the Cup Final between Benfica and Guimarães caused global outrage after they went viral.
The Minister for Home Affairs suspended the officer for 90 days following a report based on footage from CMTV.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/officer-caught-beating-benfica-fan-suspended-for-90-days/35202
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Irish tourist “kidnapped and robbed” by Lisbon taxi driver
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3 July 2015
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An Irish tourist has claimed he was “robbed and kidnapped” by a taxi driver and two accomplices in Lisbon, according to Correio da Manhã newspaper.
The 27-year-old says the taxi trio stole €600 from him after forcing him to reveal his bank codes. They then left him on a highway with no phone and only €15.
It apparently happened at 3.30am on Wednesday (July 1) after the Irish man caught a taxi in Cais do Sodré, Lisbon, with a woman he had met that night. But the night took a twisted turn when the taxi stopped and a man entered, forcing the Irish man to give him his wallet and mobile phone and tell him his bank codes.
The taxi driver and the woman then used an ATM machine to withdraw €200 from the tourist’s bank account. They drove around for another 30 minutes, stopping at a house before heading for another ATM to withdraw another €400.
The tourist was finally left on a highway with only his ID card, his bank card and €15. He says he used the cash to take a bus and another taxi back to his hotel before calling the police. The case is under investigation.
http://portugalresident.com/irish-tourist-%E2%80%9Ckidnapped-and-robbed%E2%80%9D-by-lisbon-taxi-driver#sthash.GDBHieVX.dpuf
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Portugal’s justice system “declares amnesty on 300,000 debts”
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14 July 2015
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It’s more than demanded by the troika claims Diário de Notícias in a story suggesting justice minister Paula Teixeira da Cruz has swooped to the rescue of Portugal’s many thousands of debtors.
In 2014 alone she is described as stripping as many as 86,000 cases from judicial calendars. Since 2011, the number of cases dropped by prosecutors tops 300,000, writes DN. It is a form of “cleansing” designed to reduce the horrendous backlog of cases plugging the works of a system known to function, at best, at the pace of a snail.
The debts referred to cases against individuals as well as companies, DN reveals. Indeed, since the legal changes that allowed for this cleansing, the State has “managed to tidy up cases dating back to before September 15, 2003” many of which now involve debts that could no longer be recovered.
As the paper explains, “there are no longer goods that could be seized from the debtor, nor even a salary or bank account”.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
www.portugalresident.com/portugal’s-justice-system-“declares-amnesty-on-300000-debts”
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PJ opens investigation into suspicions of paedophilia in the Church
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17 July 2015
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Diocese of Coimbra warned.
By Lusa
The Judicial Police (PJ) will open an investigation into possible cases of paedophilia in the Church after the Diocese of Coimbra has disclosed the existence of suspected abuse of minors by a clergyman.
PJ source told Lusa that the sexual abuse of minors crime "is a public crime, which does not depend on a complaint," and that the Judicial Police "will initiate an investigation" to the case.
According to the same source, so far "we have not reached any denunciation" to the Judiciary Police.
The vicar general of the diocese of Coimbra today called, in a statement, the termination of situations "concrete" of paedophilia in the Church, having appeared "suspicious" of the practice of abuse of minors "by a member of the clergy."
"We are aware of these suspicions in some ways, widely church. We want to safeguard our full transparency," said Father Pedro Carlos Miranda, vicar general of the diocese of Coimbra.
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http://portugalresident.com/brussels-gets-tough-with-portugal-over-child-sex-abuse-and-porn
Posted by portugalpress on July 16, 2015
Brussels gets tough with Portugal over child sex-abuse and porn
Brussels has told Portugal to shape-up over child sex-abuse and pornography laws. Giving a limit of two months, the EC said today that Portugal’s time is running out. The country should have altered its national legislation in line with a community directive over 18 months ago, but “despite letters notifying to this effect, nothing was done”, Diário de Notícias reports. If Portugal doesn’t get cracking now, the EC threatens it will go to the European Court of Justice. Lumped together for failure to comply with the EC’s directive are five other countries: Spain, Italy, Greece, Malta and Romania, writes DN. The directive sets out to establish minimum penal sanctions for child sex abusers and is designed to make it impossible for “delinquents condemned for child sex crimes” to exercise professional activities that bring them into regular contact with children. Brussels’ stand has coincided with the revelation of yet another “child sex horror” in Portugal, this time in Ovar. According to news reports, a 17-year-old Romanian girl - sold into slavery by her parents - has been found to have been living with a couple who sexually abused her for five years. The girl has told police that she even gave birth to a baby when she was 14 years old which the couple - also Romanian - forced her to give up for adoption. The couple are currently in police custody as investigations continue.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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David Cameron expected to return to the Western Algarve this August, to a holiday destination he visited in 2013. On that occasion he rented a private rural villa near the Portuguese town of Aljezur. This town and the nearby beach of Amoreira feature in the case of missing German boy René Hasée who disappeared from the beach in 1996.
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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3167076/Chillaxing-Cameron-August-great-beleiver-politicians-taking-holidays.html
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David Cameron expected to return to the Western Algarve this August, to a holiday destination he visited in 2013. On that occasion he rented a private rural villa near the Portuguese town of Aljezur. This town and the nearby beach of Amoreira feature in the case of missing German boy René Hasée who disappeared from the beach in 1996.
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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3167076/Chillaxing-Cameron-August-great-beleiver-politicians-taking-holidays.html
As he passes Praia da Luz on his way from Faro Airport to his fortified western Algarve sanctuary no doubt thoughts of Maddie and that £10m he has spent already on the case will be foremost on his mind.
But then again that 10% pay hike will come in rather handy...greedy beggar!!
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As he passes Praia da Luz on his way from Faro Airport to his fortified western Algarve sanctuary no doubt thoughts of Maddie and that £10m he has spent already on the case will be foremost on his mind.
But then again that 10% pay hike will come in rather handy...greedy beggar!!
I wonder if he will be tempted and go looking to see for himself?
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Is it possible this thread could be about news from the Algarve?
News from Lisbon is like saying Manchester or Glasgow is next door to London.
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David Cameron turns up in the Algarve as predicted and is pictured relaxing by the harbour in Alvor, a short drive from Praia da Luz.
Will the PM be popping in on Faro PJ to enquire if British taxpayers money is being well spent?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11791890/David-Cameron-uses-FitFlops-on-holiday-summer-break-photo-reveals.html
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David Cameron turns up in the Algarve as predicted and is pictured relaxing by the harbour in Alvor, a short drive from Praia da Luz.
Will the PM be popping in on Faro PJ to enquire if British taxpayers money is being well spent?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11791890/David-Cameron-uses-FitFlops-on-holiday-summer-break-photo-reveals.html
Not on this leg of his holiday, maybe on the return. This looks to be about half-way between Faro and Aljezur, commonly known as rest-break time.
However, he is a long way south of his travel route, and very near to Portimão, our local PJ HQ.
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Time this wicked attraction was stopped. IMO.
Bullfight protest staged in Albufeira
in Algarve · 13-08-2015 13:45:00 · 0 Comments
Around 50 people took part in an anti-bullfighting protest staged last Friday evening in Albufeira to call for an end to touradas in that city.
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According to a spokesperson for the protest, organised by the Cidade de Albufeira Anti-Tourada group, the demonstration went “very well.”
Over 50 people from “across the region and other parts of the country, animal welfare organisations and political parties” joined forces to demand that the “shameful torture” be abolished from Albufeira.
“We had lots of tourists stopping and asking questions; our three protest girls were very brave, stripped down, painted with fake blood and spears, and lay on the ground for three hours. So hopefully we have raised awareness and stopped a few families going to the bullfight thinking that it is some sort of horse pageant”, the representative said.
The Cidade de Albufeira Anti-Tourada (Albufeira Anti-Bullfight City) group was established to demand an end to bullfights in that city, which has an active bullring.
“Torture is not culture and this ring has tarnished the reputation of the city and the region by leaving a negative impression on tourists who feel neglected and misled when attending a degrading spectacle, which is inconsistent with developed countries or with ethical and civilised positions”, the group explained on its Facebook page.
It added: “We regret that this *cruelty , is supported by Albufeira Council but it’s not supported by the people of the city, who would prefer that Albufeira continues as a point of reference on the national and international tourism stage but is not linked to an alleged bloody tradition that damages the image of the county.”
http://theportugalnews.com/news/bullfight-protest-staged-in-albufeira/35600
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Mother sees son who had disappeared in Lagos in Chelsea game
Young man disappeared in the Algarve.
By Rebecca Venancio
A Scottish mother believed she had seen her son, who disappeared a year ago in Portugal, a 'selfie' of a couple, taken during a game of Chelsea in London.
Lesley Edwards is Jon Anderson Edwards's mother, a young man of 31 years who worked in Lagos, as 'chef' cooking.
In September last year he suffered a head injury after a fall and disappeared just after. All Jon belongings were in the apartment, including his passport and mobile phone.
Over the past 11 months the police raided in Scotland and in Portugal without success.
A woman of 54 years believes she has now identified the child in a photograph taken by a couple at Stamford Bridge in London, in the match between Chelsea and Fiorentina last Wednesday but does not know how he may have travelled to the country since the Portuguese authorities still have the passport Scottish.
The Portuguese team to lead the research is the same that led the search for Maddie McCann.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/mae_ve_filho_desaparecido_em_lagos_em_jogo_do_chelsea.html
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Mother sees son who had disappeared in Lagos in Chelsea game
Young man disappeared in the Algarve.
By Rebecca Venancio
A Scottish mother believed she had seen her son, who disappeared a year ago in Portugal, a 'selfie' of a couple, taken during a game of Chelsea in London.
Lesley Edwards is Jon Anderson Edwards's mother, a young man of 31 years who worked in Lagos, as 'chef' cooking.
In September last year he suffered a head injury after a fall and disappeared just after. All Jon belongings were in the apartment, including his passport and mobile phone.
Over the past 11 months the police raided in Scotland and in Portugal without success.
A woman of 54 years believes she has now identified the child in a photograph taken by a couple at Stamford Bridge in London, in the match between Chelsea and Fiorentina last Wednesday but does not know how he may have travelled to the country since the Portuguese authorities still have the passport Scottish.
The Portuguese team to lead the research is the same that led the search for Maddie McCann.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/mae_ve_filho_desaparecido_em_lagos_em_jogo_do_chelsea.html
Sadly the young man seen in the photograph has been identified and is not Jon Anderson.
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/angus-the-mearns/football-fan-spotted-at-chelsea-match-is-not-missing-angus-chef-jon-edwards-1.893897
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Passos Coelho and Cameron meet in Lisbon
by TPN/ Lusa, in News · 04-09-2015 12:14:00 · 0 Comments
The prime ministers of Portugal, Pedro Passos Coelho, and the United Kingdom, David Cameron, are going to discuss in Lisbon on Friday, the reforms the British conservatives want to agree with their European partners.
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David Cameron, who will then be flying on to Madrid, is starting this second round of meetings to try and stir up support for his agenda, which implies alterations to the European Union treaties and includes more robust powers for national parliaments and reduced freedom of movement for people.
The British prime minister has said he wants to close the negotiations with the European partners before holding an internal referendum on whether the UK stays in the European Union or pulls out – a commitment he gave in the campaign for the general election in the UK on 7 May, which his party won with an absolute majority.
This meeting comes at a time when the European Union is faced with thousands of refugees who are trying to reach Europe and in a pre-campaign atmosphere in Portugal in the run up to the 4 October general elections which see the current centre-right coalition standing together for the next term.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/passos-coelho-and-cameron-meet-in-lisbon/35841
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Burglar dies after breaking into Britons’ villa
in News · 21-09-2015 08:29:00 · 0 Comments
A burglar has died after breaking into the home of a British couple in Vilamoura. According to newspaper Correio da Manhã the incident happened during the early hours of Sunday morning when the thief broke into the home of the couple in their 50s who were in the property with their son.
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They caught the burglar red-handed with stolen goods in his pockets including the key to the family’s Jaguar.
When the GNR police officers arrived the man was reportedly being restrained by one of the Britons who allegedly had his arm around the criminal’s neck.
The thief died as the police were preparing to handcuff him. His body will be autopsied to determine the cause of death.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/burglar-dies-after-breaking-into-britons-villa/36007
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Let's hope the PJ have the presence of mind to search his home for a maroon t-shirt with a large white circle on the back or anything else which could be of significance to past endeavours. Would also be interesting to know the nationality of this unfortunate thief?
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Let's hope the PJ have the presence of mind to search his home for a maroon t-shirt with a large white circle on the back or anything else which could be of significance to past endeavours. Would also be interesting to know the nationality of this unfortunate thief?
I doubt it has anything to do with PDL, but who knows?
If he was British, I'm sure it would have been mentioned, since it describes the house occupiers as British.
happened before 4 am. I suppose we will hear nothing until after the PM.
Poor silly man 8(8-))
Same story in CDM....
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Thief dies in robbery in Vilamoura
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21 September 2015
Burglar was caught by the owners
By John Mira Godinho, Jose Carlos Eusebius
A thief died on Sunday after being caught by locals while robbing a house at the entrance of Vilamoura. The case happened by 04.00. A British couple, in their 50s, and son, about 20, came across the man inside their villa, already with some artcles in his pockets - including the keys of a Jaguar car. The father and son were able to subdue the thief, while the woman telephoned the GNR. When the military arrived, the assailant was still alive, with one of British to holding him in the back, with one arm around his neck (at the withers). By the time the GNR were preparing to put on handcuffs, the man collapsed and died. The body was taken for autopsy to determine the cause of death.
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Regulars will recall that Vilamoura has come up previously wrt a suspect! It will be interesting to see if this case becomes one of accidental homicide.
I see Martin Brunt is claiming the man was asphyxiated which if true could result in charges of culpable homicide.
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Regulars will recall that Vilamoura has come up previously wrt a suspect! It will be interesting to see if this case becomes one of accidental homicide.
I see Martin Brunt is claiming the man was asphyxiated which if true could result in charges of culpable homicide.
Oh dear! So the persons who were robbed, may be up on a charge.
It is only about a 30 minute drive from PDL. I thought it was farther. The suspect in MM case, from that area was a paedophile was he not? Reid? He has since..died.
Quite a lot of action in that area, though.
http://www.safecommunitiesalgarve.com/albufeira-judicial-police-arrested-suspects-in-the-robbery-and-kidnapping/
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Let's hope the PJ have the presence of mind to search his home for a maroon t-shirt with a large white circle on the back or anything else which could be of significance to past endeavours. Would also be interesting to know the nationality of this unfortunate thief?
Maroon t-shirt man was after girls allegedly. No girls in this villa. Does everyone keep their old clothes for years like Crecheman? I have regular purges on mine.
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Regulars will recall that Vilamoura has come up previously wrt a suspect! It will be interesting to see if this case becomes one of accidental homicide.
I see Martin Brunt is claiming the man was asphyxiated which if true could result in charges of culpable homicide.
That was my concern too, John.
I hope not as they will be feeling bad enough about the man dying without having to account for it in court into the bargain.
The human factor apart ... it is interesting ... he was alive when the GNR arrived on the scene and was under restraint while being handcuffed. Therefore who was restraining him ... civilian or soldier? ... and was he arrested making this a death in custody?
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That was my concern too, John.
I hope not as they will be feeling bad enough about the man dying without having to account for it in court into the bargain.
The human factor apart ... it is interesting ... he was alive when the GNR arrived on the scene and was under restraint while being handcuffed. Therefore who was restraining him ... civilian or soldier? ... and was he arrested making this a death in custody?
maybe the clue is in...
They caught the burglar red-handed with stolen goods in his pockets including the key to the family’s Jaguar.
When the GNR police officers arrived the man was reportedly being restrained by one of the Britons who allegedly had his arm around the criminal’s neck.
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maybe the clue is in...
Portuguese law does allow people people the right to defend their property the level of self-defence being proportional.
Both father and son sustained minor injury during the fracas ... so it will remain for the public prosecutor to decide an appropriate course of action.
However all the reports I have read agree the intruder was alive when the GNR arrived and was being handcuffed when he died ... which leads one to wonder why the son of the house was still having to restrain him in the presence of the military.
http://news.sky.com/story/1556421/britons-under-house-arrest-after-burglar-dies
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Portuguese law does allow people people the right to defend their property the level of self-defence being proportional.
Both father and son sustained minor injury during the fracas ... so it will remain for the public prosecutor to decide an appropriate course of action.
However all the reports I have read agree the intruder was alive when the GNR arrived and was being handcuffed when he died ... which leads one to wonder why the son of the house was still having to restrain him in the presence of the military.
http://news.sky.com/story/1556421/britons-under-house-arrest-after-burglar-dies
Perhaps he was enjoying himself and got a little carried away.
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Portuguese law does allow people people the right to defend their property the level of self-defence being proportional.
Both father and son sustained minor injury during the fracas ... so it will remain for the public prosecutor to decide an appropriate course of action.
However all the reports I have read agree the intruder was alive when the GNR arrived and was being handcuffed when he died ... which leads one to wonder why the son of the house was still having to restrain him in the presence of the military.
http://news.sky.com/story/1556421/britons-under-house-arrest-after-burglar-dies
Most of the reports I have read state the gnr were preparing to handcuff him when he died not that they were handcuffing him....could be a heart attack
Anyway this has nothng to do wth Madeleine McCann
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Most of the reports I have read state the gnr were preparing to handcuff him when he died not that they were handcuffing him....could be a heart attack
Anyway this has nothng to do wth Madeleine McCann
Appears the burglar was in his mid twenties so not the middle aged overweight sweaty suspect sought over the other reported intrusions and assaults.
I cannot believe Sky sent Brunty back to Portugal for this case, he obviously hadn't much else to do.
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Appears the burglar was in his mid twenties so not the middle aged overweight sweaty suspect sought over the other reported intrusions and assaults.
I cannot believe Sky sent Brunty back to Portugal for this case, he obviously hadn't much else to do.
Clearly had to slim down to squeeze through those tiny windows 8(0(*
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Algarve Residents Worry Despite Crime Drop
As police investigate the death of a suspected burglar in Vilamoura, residents on the Algarve say they are concerned about crime.
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By Martin Brunt
Sky News Crime Correspondent
Police statistics for the Algarve coast show that crime has been falling steadily since the high levels of 2008.
At that time a wave of burglaries provided rich pickings for companies selling burglar alarms to well-heeled owners of the luxury villas built around the big resorts of estates such Vilamoura.
Latest figures from the Justice Department show an annual 9.3% drop in overall crime in the Algarve and a 6.9% fall for the whole of Portugal.
But residents here are just as concerned as they ever were about break-ins, especially in the wake of the Taylors' experience of confronting and restraining an intruder who then died in their home on Sunday.
Drive through any of the bougainvillea-edged streets of Vilamoura and you will pass high walls, spiked gates, CCTV cameras and burglar alarms. Some residents put their faith in guard dogs.
David Thomas set up the Algarve Association of Safe Communities in 2011 to teach residents what they could do to lessen the risk of a break-in.
He said: "Seven years ago the level of property crime was pretty high and the burglar alarm companies fought each other for business.
"But it has decreased significantly, due to a number of factors including high police presence and community awareness."
The area's detective force has also been successful in combating organised crime gangs and driving many away from the region.
Read more
http://news.sky.com/story/1557070/algarve-residents-worry-despite-crime-drop
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Appears the burglar was in his mid twenties so not the middle aged overweight sweaty suspect sought over the other reported intrusions and assaults.
I cannot believe Sky sent Brunty back to Portugal for this case, he obviously hadn't much else to do.
Yeah sad isn't it lol
hope he lights candles every moment he has for brenda the dickhead
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Algarve Residents Worry Despite Crime Drop
As police investigate the death of a suspected burglar in Vilamoura, residents on the Algarve say they are concerned about crime.
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Police statistics for the Algarve coast show that crime has been falling steadily since the high levels of 2008.
At that time a wave of burglaries provided rich pickings for companies selling burglar alarms to well-heeled owners of the luxury villas built around the big resorts of estates such Vilamoura.
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He said: "Seven years ago the level of property crime was pretty high and the burglar alarm companies fought each other for business.
"But it has decreased significantly, due to a number of factors including high police presence and community awareness."
The area's detective force has also been successful in combating organised crime gangs and driving many away from the region.
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The one local input I have heard on this came from Portuguese owners we were renting from, in Luz. They said crime had dropped, but the reason they gave was that as the Portuguese economy plummeted, those carrying out the crimes had moved to countries where there was more work, notably Brazil.
And despite now having lived in 8 properties out here, 7 in or around Luz, I have yet to live in one that has a burglar alarm fitted.
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09/23/2015 04:30
Dead thief assault served eight years of jail
Paulo Brito had left two months ago from prison.
By John Mira Godinho, James Griff
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Paulo Brito, the thief who was killed in an assault on the house of an English family in Vilamoura, had been out for about two months in prison, where he served eight years of a sentence for theft and other theft crimes. Already known to the authorities, 'Bombinho' as he was known, 35, had also been accused of coercion on employee for threats to a GNR post of Albufeira.
The CM, Victor's brother Paul, said yesterday that "he was arrested and made many mistakes but was trying to turn his life around." The truth is that 'Bombinho' was, 04h00 on Sunday morning, inside the Jill and Trevor Taylor's house, 61 and 60 years.
The couple faced the intruder and with the help of his son, Scott, 31, managed to master it. Then Scott kept Paul bound by the neck with his arm 'tourniquet', until the arrival of GNR. When dropped, the thief dropped dead on the floor. The first results indicate asphyxiation but the autopsy findings will still take up to be known as the doctor at the Institute of Forensic Medicine of Faro requested further tests, including toxicology analysis to the body.
For Victor, the brother of Paul, "the investigation has to be made, the authorities have to discover the causes of death, because he did not have any health problems."
The English were heard by the PJ, who took over the investigation, and made defendants. The information was then sent to the prosecutor, who will decide whether to charge target. They were subject to term of identity and residence but Scott, who lives in England, can leave Portugal.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/cumpriu_oito_anos_de_prisao.html
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09/23/2015 04:30
Dead thief assault served eight years of jail
Paulo Brito had left two months ago from prison.
By John Mira Godinho, James Griff
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Paulo Brito, the thief who was killed in an assault on the house of an English family in Vilamoura, had been out for about two months in prison, where he served eight years of a sentence for theft and other theft crimes. Already known to the authorities, 'Bombinho' as he was known, 35, had also been accused of coercion on employee for threats to a GNR post of Albufeira.
The CM, Victor's brother Paul, said yesterday that "he was arrested and made many mistakes but was trying to turn his life around." The truth is that 'Bombinho' was, 04h00 on Sunday morning, inside the Jill and Trevor Taylor's house, 61 and 60 years.
The couple faced the intruder and with the help of his son, Scott, 31, managed to master it. Then Scott kept Paul bound by the neck with his arm 'tourniquet', until the arrival of GNR. When dropped, the thief dropped dead on the floor. The first results indicate asphyxiation but the autopsy findings will still take up to be known as the doctor at the Institute of Forensic Medicine of Faro requested further tests, including toxicology analysis to the body.
For Victor, the brother of Paul, "the investigation has to be made, the authorities have to discover the causes of death, because he did not have any health problems."
The English were heard by the PJ, who took over the investigation, and made defendants. The information was then sent to the prosecutor, who will decide whether to charge target. They were subject to term of identity and residence but Scott, who lives in England, can leave Portugal.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/cumpriu_oito_anos_de_prisao.html
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This will send out a powerful message to sneak thieves and burglars on the Algarve. Mess with us Brits at your peril!
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The one local input I have heard on this came from Portuguese owners we were renting from, in Luz. They said crime had dropped, but the reason they gave was that as the Portuguese economy plummeted, those carrying out the crimes had moved to countries where there was more work, notably Brazil.
And despite now having lived in 8 properties out here, 7 in or around Luz, I have yet to live in one that has a burglar alarm fitted.
Slightly off topic geographically but related all the same. I have noticed a dramatic increase in burglaries in my area of the Costa Blanca, something which was unheard of a few years ago. I fear times are a changing me dears and for the worse. 8(8-))
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I see tonight the father and son in Portugal have been declared defendants.
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Two people “made defendants” in death of burglar in Britons’ villa
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BY CARRIE-MARIE BRATLEY
24 September 2015
Preliminary autopsy results have indicated that a burglar who died during a foiled robbery attempt at a villa belonging to a British family in Vilamoura, died due to asphyxia. The Attorney General’s Office said two people have been made defendants in the ongoing investigation.
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News of the preliminary autopsy results pointing towards asphyxia was confirmed by a PJ police source on Wednesday.
The Oxford Dictionary of English defines the term ‘asphyxia’ as a “condition arising when the body is deprived of oxygen, causing unconsciousness or death.”
Police are awaiting the results of a formal autopsy report and, as with any case involving a ‘violent’ death, are continuing their investigation into the circumstances surrounding the burglar’s death.
It will then be up to the Public Prosecutor’s Office to decide whether or not to press charges.
Also on Wednesday a statement sent to The Portugal News from the Attorney General’s Office, under which the Public Prosecution Service operates, confirmed two people have been made defendants in the ongoing investigation, but did not specify whom.
In its statement the Public Prosecution Service said it has “opened an Inquiry, in the scope of which two people have acquired the status of defendant.
“These two people have further been imposed the restraining measure of ‘Statement of Identity and Residence’ (Termo de identidade e residência).”
It explained that “the Portuguese legal system provides for the opening of a criminal inquiry whenever an act likely to correspond to a criminal offence is reported. Any subsequent steps in view of the determination of the truth and of the identification of the offenders are taken within the said inquiry.”
Known offender and convict Paulo Brito reportedly collapsed and died as GNR officers went to handcuff him after being immobilised at the family villa by long-term British expat Trevor Taylor, 60, and his son Scott, 31, who was visiting Portugal.
The Taylors restrained the intruder after finding and confronting him in the villa during the early hours of Sunday morning, while mother and wife Jill Scott, 61, called the police.
The family is said to be in shock after what happened and as yet no charges have been brought against them.
They are understood to have been contacted by police but no other restrictions have been placed on their movements with the exception of the Termo de identidade e residência and having to inform authorities if they intend to leave the country or move house.
A Q&A piece by a university professor in newspaper Correio da Manhã explained that, should the general assumption that the Taylors were acting in self-defence be corroborated, prosecutors are only likely to come into play should the degree of self-defence be deemed by the Public Prosecutor as excessive or disproportional to the force required by the situation. But, according to other observers, even then, responsibilities could be diminished.
Paulo Brito, 35, had a record for theft and robbery and, according to newspaper Correio da Manhã, had only been released from prison around two months prior to his death following an eight-year sentence.
A decision is expected in coming weeks.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/two-people-made-defendants-in-death-of-burglar-in-britons-villa/36034
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From the Portugal Resident...
21 September 2015
"Despite reports in the Portuguese press that the burglar died as police prepared to handcuff him, new information is that Paulo Brito, 35, was dead by the time GNR agents responded to the Taylor family’s call."
http://portugalresident.com/exclusive-new-information-on-how-portuguese-burglar-died-at-hands-of-british-father-and-son
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http://portugalresident.com/german-doctor-flees-algarve-after-%E2%80%9Ccompulsory%E2%80%9D-committal-to-mental-asylum
German doctor has spoken of the “complete nightmare” that left him with “one hour to leave Portugal” after building up a successful practice in Almancil over 16 years. Reported in Público last week was the story of “a German doctor working in the Algarve” who had seen his appeal against compulsory internment in a mental asylum turned down (click here). What Público did not say was that the doctor actually fled the country last year - fearing for his life. “I would be dead if I had stayed,” Dr Robert Reisert told us from his new base in Bavaria. “They would have put me in a jacket and given me lots of medication. I would have died, for sure.” The story is all the more incredible as Reisert has no idea why he was “prosecuted”. None of his patients had made any complaints. There were no scare stories in the press. Even the Público article was unspecific. It simply said that Évora judges had ruled the doctor - who it did not name - posed an “unacceptable risk” to his patients. Público claimed that the doctor had told patients he could “cure diabetes in 10 days using huge doses of insulin”. Promises were also made over cancer treatments. “It is all lies,” Reisert told us. “I certainly made no promises about curing diabetes in 10 days - and certainly not with high doses of insulin. “It’s all nonsense. I am a doctor; an intelligent man. I have had myself assessed by other doctors, who have said the same thing. “What happened to me in Portugal was incredible. It is incredible that such things can still happen today.” Dr Reisert told us of the moment when his lawyer said: “You have one hour to leave Portugal.”
“They would have come to take me,” he explained. He had lost the first case taken out against him in 2007 and, as far as his lawyer was aware, the authorities were due to enforce the court’s decision to have him compulsorily interned in a mental institution. “I left everything behind. My surgery, my machines, everything,” he explained. “I have no more property anymore in Portugal.” It was clearly a horrific experience which he was loathe to discuss over the phone - particularly as we had rung him during daily consultations. The Resident has agreed to mail Dr Reisert and try and build up a picture of what happened and why - and what it was exactly that led to his court case and self-propelled flight from the country. Meantime, Dr Reisert cannot return to Portugal without the threat of compulsory committal to a mental asylum hanging over him. Even more bizarre is the fact that the Portuguese “Ordem dos Médicos” (doctors association) has made no moves to strike him off, or take any further action. President of the association José Manuel da Silva said it had simply published a resumé of the court ruling in the hope “that citizens realise that they shouldn’t believe in miracles, but in science”. natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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A curious state of affairs, which aroused my interest because of the place & the year charges were first brought.
The GP is still practising and apparently highly respected.
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Armed hostage-taker in a siege underway in Lagos. It started this morning.
"Um homem barricou-se esta manhã nas instalações da Comissão de Proteção de Crianças e Jovens, em Lagos. Há a possibilidade de haver reféns."
Video at CMTV at http://cmtv.sapo.pt/atualidade/detalhe/20151005_1244_homem_barricado_em_lagos.html
A significant chunk of Lagos has been closed down while the police tackle this situation.
ETA. It seems this has been resolved. A man armed with a shotgun went into the building as he has been kept apart from his children for a year. He talked to the children then gave himself up. A news conference is under way.
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Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May reportedly touched down in Faro airport a few hours ago
Assuming the news is correct, and assuming the forthcoming show is motoring related, then they are probably up this end of the Algarve, with the obvious attraction being the Autódromo Internacional do Algarve, the local motor racing circuit.
This has a tenuous connection to the McCann case, as one the 4 chaps made arguidos in mid 2014 went racing on the circuit and pranged his car.
But I guess Clarkson and co have other things planned.
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http://portugalresident.com/people-told-to-stay-away-from-clifftops-after-rock-fall-at-praia-da-luz-0
The Algarve’s environmental agency (APA Algarve) is warning people to stay away from clifftops after a huge rock fall took place at Praia da Luz on Wednesday morning (October 14).
“Luckily no one was hurt, but people must be aware that cliffs are even riskier when it rains,” APA Algarve president Sebastião Teixeira told the Resident.
Photos of the impressive rock fall were sent to us by reader Jackie Dawson.
“At the largest point of the cliffs, the rock face completely collapsed with a huge roar falling into the cove and sea at the end of the beach,” she said after witnessing the scene.
Teixeira told our newspaper that maritime police have closed off the area around the rockfall, and that it is expected that the sea will clear away the debris.
“This is how nature works. It’s a natural phenomenon that becomes more common during the winter. These kinds of cliffs can experience rock falls even five days after it has rained,” he explained.
By MICHAEL BRUXO Michael.bruxo@algarveresident.com
Photos: Jackie Dawson
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You should be getting news shortly about flooding and landslides on the Algarve.
I woke up a couple of hours before dawn and it was sheeting down in a thunderstorm, and it remained like for most of the day, until about an hour ago. It now seems to have stopped.
Towns like Albufeira and Quarteira are reported to be suffering significant flooding. The Portuguese locals are saying they've seen heavy rain before, but nothing as bad as this deluge.
So it's not always Shining In Luz. %56&
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Sócrates case - gagging order obtained against Correio da Manhã
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By Paul Rees
29 October 2015
The publisher of Portuguese daily newspaper Correio da Manhã has been banned from publishing news about Operation Marquês and José Sócrates’ role in the intricate web of corruption that led to his arrest and imprisonment.
The former prime minister’s lawyers successfully obtained an injunction against Cofina, owner of the title and others all of which now are banned from covering the case which is soon to keep the nation enthralled as to the depths of corrupt practices in the corridors of power in Portugal.
The court decision takes immediate effect and if the paper continues to keep its readers informed by publishing stories damaging to Sócrates’ reputation, as it has been doing, Cofina faces significant fines.
In a statement sent to newsrooms today the defence team acting for Sócrates reported on the judgment of the Lisbon court dated 26 October 2015.
The court accepted the lawyers' application to block all of Cofina’s titles, namely Correio da Manhã, Destak, Jornal de Negócios and the weekend journal, Sábado.
The newspapers are banned from publishing details of Operation Marquês including transcripts of telephone conversations that show the former PM in a less than honest light.
The ruling also prohibits the journalists António Sérgio Azenha and Sónia Trigueirão of editing, publishing or disseminating, even to other Cofina journalists, details of the case by any means, on paper, in electronic form or tapes, on radio or television, by direct transcription or any other indirect way the substance of any evidence being used in Operation Marquês.
The court also ordered that any copies of the printed edition of Correio da Manhã still circulating, which have damaging reports about the former PM, are withdrawn and delivered to the court within three days.
In today’s printed edition of Correio da Manhã, the injunction was covered as the main news item which referred to the gagging order.
João Araújo, the main lawyer acting for the former prime minister, believes that the newspaper has a vendetta against his client.
The deputy director of Correio da Manhã, Eduardo Damaso, says the Cofina group will accord with the injunction but will oppose it in court and will keep up its investigations even though it can not print them, for the time being.
"This decision will not stop Correio da Manhã scrutinising Sócrates," ran today’s editorial written by Damaso who said the court decision clashes "with national law and European Court of Human Rights legislation."
"The injunction was requested by Sócrates’ defence and has the effect of silencing Correio da Manhã on this case, but does not silence Sócrates or his lawyers. In a democracy we should have as pillars the freedom of the press and freedom of expression. This type of gagging order is dangerously approaching censorship," said Eduardo Damaso.
José Sócrates was arrested on November 21 2014, at Lisbon airport, and indicted for the crimes of qualified tax fraud, money laundering and accepting bribes for tort.
He was remanded in custody in Évora prison for 41 weeks and then released to remain under house arrest. He was released last week.
http://www.algarvedailynews.com/cases/socrates/7057-socrates-case-gagging-order-obtained-against-correio-da-manha
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Brings a whole new meaning to free speech in Portugal!
Ed
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34779839
The recently elected govt has been flushed down the toilet. We found out from an estate agent who thought property prices are going to plummet. (I am of a different opinion.)
From the BBC link -
"Portuguese left-wing opposition parties have toppled the country's minority government by rejecting its programme in parliament.
A centre-right coalition won most votes in October's election but lost its overall majority.
A new leftist bloc has now voted 123 to 107 against the administration's programme, prompting its collapse.
The move could lead to a new government led by the Socialist Party, likely to focus on alleviating austerity."
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34779839
The recently elected govt has been flushed down the toilet. We found out from an estate agent who thought property prices are going to plummet. (I am of a different opinion.)
From the BBC link -
"Portuguese left-wing opposition parties have toppled the country's minority government by rejecting its programme in parliament.
A centre-right coalition won most votes in October's election but lost its overall majority.
A new leftist bloc has now voted 123 to 107 against the administration's programme, prompting its collapse.
The move could lead to a new government led by the Socialist Party, likely to focus on alleviating austerity."
"The current government has warned that the left-wing coalition risks turning Portugal into another Greece."
Not necessarily ... Iceland rejected a bail out and austerity ... and they seem to have come through it quite well. The money my Local Authority had invested in the Icelandic Bank has long since been repaid
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Algarve man jailed after kidnapping daughter
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12 November 2015
A Tavira man accused of kidnapping his young daughter in 2012 was yesterday evening sentenced to three years and two months in jail.
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The Faro court ruled that Paulo Guiomar was guilty of aggravated kidnapping, depriving his daughter of freedom and causing her serious mental harm in the process.
Maria Alice spent two years away from her mother in Belgium, where she was kept at the home of her paternal grandmother, who was given a two-year suspended sentence.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/algarve-man-jailed-after-kidnapping-daughter/36598
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Previously...
"They cut my hair to look like a boy"
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By Pedro F. Guerreiro
9 September 2015
Maria Alice, aged 10, testified with her father and grandmother out of the courtroom.
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Paul Guiomar arriving at court.
With his father and grandmother outside the courtroom, Maria Alice explained that for two years she lived in Belgium, fleeing the police. The shortest of testimony, she is now ten years of age, marked on Wednesday the start of the trial of the Maritime Police agent, Paul Guiomar, and grandmother, Maria Dolores, on kidnapping charges.
Alice told the judges that she lived in several houses and that "one of them had no windows." And that she came out few times onto the street. "She sometimes playing with other boys, but not often. I would do a little homework," said the minor, who said that the father and grandmother "were afraid" that the police would find them. So, they did everything to go unnoticed. "They cut my hair like a boy and I wore boy's clothes. I did not like it and cried," confessed the minor, who was called Sara.
The father reported that, in his view, he had "no option" but to stay with his daughter, because after the minor had asked for help he believed that "Mary Alice was in danger in the charge of her mother." The grandmother, Maria Dolores, did not give evidence.
The defence lawyer, Ricardo Serrano Vieira, considers that another legal assessment of the case should be undertaken and argues that "there is evidence that may give rise to a cause of exclusion or special mitigation of punishment."
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/cortaram_me_o_cabelo_a_menino.html
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Posted by portugalpress on November 19, 2015
Horror as dismembered body of baby is found in rubbish
The dismembered body of a baby - missing its head, an arm and leg - was found in a rubbish bag in Seixal. The horrific discovery was made by an employee of a waste management company in the early hours of Wednesday morning (November 18).
According to Correio da Manhã newspaper, the body was so badly decomposed that authorities could not determine the sex of the child, who is believed to have been one or two months old when it died.
Setúbal’s PJ criminal police are trying to establish whether the baby was already dead when dumped.
“When it was found, the body had already passed through several machines that separate, compact and destroy waste. The body may have been dismembered during this time,” a PJ source told CM.
The body was taken to the morgue at Almada’s Garcia de Horta Hospital and is expected to undergo an autopsy today.
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Posted by portugalpress on November 19, 2015
Horror as dismembered body of baby is found in rubbish
The dismembered body of a baby - missing its head, an arm and leg - was found in a rubbish bag in Seixal. The horrific discovery was made by an employee of a waste management company in the early hours of Wednesday morning (November 18).
According to Correio da Manhã newspaper, the body was so badly decomposed that authorities could not determine the sex of the child, who is believed to have been one or two months old when it died.
Setúbal’s PJ criminal police are trying to establish whether the baby was already dead when dumped.
“When it was found, the body had already passed through several machines that separate, compact and destroy waste. The body may have been dismembered during this time,” a PJ source told CM.
The body was taken to the morgue at Almada’s Garcia de Horta Hospital and is expected to undergo an autopsy today.
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In a morbid way we can but hope the waste management companies' employees were equally as diligent in 2007, ruling out such a gruesome scenario for Madeleine.
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In a morbid way we can but hope the waste management companies' employees were equally as diligent in 2007, ruling out such a gruesome scenario for Madeleine.
Shining did a good bit of research on the subject and posted that it would have been impossible for Madeleine not to have been found had she been put into a dumpster because of working practices in force at the waste disposal sites.
Even if proper searches hadn't been carried out before the bins were emptied I think this sad case confirms that had she been disposed of in this way, she would have been found.
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I may be mistaken but I have been told that general waste from Luz was taken to a compression site where the waste was compressed to get the liquids out of it before being taken to landfill as flat 'cakes'. The hand sorting referred to by SIL referred only to recycling waste.
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I may be mistaken but I have been told that general waste from Luz was taken to a compression site where the waste was compressed to get the liquids out of it before being taken to landfill as flat 'cakes'. The hand sorting referred to by SIL referred only to recycling waste.
If you have a link on this, please let me know.
The thrust of my analysis is that the waste was hand sorted primarily to remove toxic waste that was banned from landfill.
And the photos of Porto de Lagos at the time show the landfill as bog standard landfill, enjoyed by gulls and storks alike, with not a flat anything in sight.
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Portimão Aerodrome ready to receive domestic flights
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19 November 2015
The small aerodrome located at Penina, Alvor in Portimão (Algarve), was this week expected to be ready to receive a new domestic flight covering destinations like Bragança in the far north in the country.
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According to Portimão Town Hall, adaptations to the aerodrome were due to be concluded this week, which include a passenger terminal and a baggage area.
A new north-south flight route comprising stops in Vila Real, Viseu and Cascais as well as Bragança was originally set to commence in June but has been subject to a number of bureaucratic delays since and no definite date for the inaugural flight has as yet been confirmed.
In related news, a new airline has launched commercial flights between Funchal (Madeira) and mainland Portugal, joining the likes of Ryanair and TAP.
Operational for four years the airline Everjets was formerly an exclusively executive airline but on Sunday started operating commercial routes between mainland Portugal (Oporto and Lisbon) and the island.
Based in Oporto it offers daily flights between Lisbon and Funchal and two weekly flights to Oporto.
Its commercial venture includes two airbus A320s and entails an initial investment of between four and five million euros.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portimao-aerodrome-ready-to-receive-domestic-flights/36690
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Portimão Aerodrome ready to receive domestic flights
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19 November 2015
The small aerodrome located at Penina, Alvor in Portimão (Algarve), was this week expected to be ready to receive a new domestic flight covering destinations like Bragança in the far north in the country.
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According to Portimão Town Hall, adaptations to the aerodrome were due to be concluded this week, which include a passenger terminal and a baggage area.
A new north-south flight route comprising stops in Vila Real, Viseu and Cascais as well as Bragança was originally set to commence in June but has been subject to a number of bureaucratic delays since and no definite date for the inaugural flight has as yet been confirmed.
In related news, a new airline has launched commercial flights between Funchal (Madeira) and mainland Portugal, joining the likes of Ryanair and TAP.
Operational for four years the airline Everjets was formerly an exclusively executive airline but on Sunday started operating commercial routes between mainland Portugal (Oporto and Lisbon) and the island.
Based in Oporto it offers daily flights between Lisbon and Funchal and two weekly flights to Oporto.
Its commercial venture includes two airbus A320s and entails an initial investment of between four and five million euros.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portimao-aerodrome-ready-to-receive-domestic-flights/36690
This is sheer magic!
Story - Portimão airport goes big league!
Photo - handyman fixes crack in ceiling! Hilarious!
I just hope that cracked beam is not weight-bearing.
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I may be mistaken but I have been told that general waste from Luz was taken to a compression site where the waste was compressed to get the liquids out of it before being taken to landfill as flat 'cakes'. The hand sorting referred to by SIL referred only to recycling waste.
My thanks for the info provided by PM. I have churned through the records and my efforts are now posted on my blog.
For those who prefer the ending first, the site may or may not be compression now, but in July 2007 Google Earth strongly suggests it was simply a transfer site, small load capacity to big load capacity.
If the Luz rubbish went through there in 2007, it would be one small additional reason that wheelie bins/landfill can be ruled out.
Details/photo on shininginluz.
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David Cameron's favourite Algarve hideaway currently plays host to a German looking to create a donkey sanctuary.
http://project-sanctuary-happy-donkeys.jimdo.com
German man travels 1,200kms to Monchique in
search of good home to live with his donkeys
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A 1,200km-journey to find a good home for himself and his five donkeys has brought German nature lover Robert Nestmann to Monchique, where he is staying temporarily while looking for a place to live out his dream – to be surrounded by nature with his animal companions.
His story was highlighted in Barlavento newspaper last week, which explained how the man ended up sleeping in the streets of Monchique with few material possessions and his donkeys.
Nestmann, 43, was raised in a remote village in Germany, and had spent the last 13 years living in Andalusia, Spain working as a volunteer in the World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms (WWOOF) movement.
His love of nature developed when he was a child, and his first job in Spain saw him working on a farm between Ronda and Estepone. To help him with his work, he bought a donkey.
“Shortly after, I noticed that the donkey was becoming depressed, and so I bought another to keep him company,” Nestmann said.
It was one donkey too many, according to the owner of the land, and Nestmann was forced to pack his bags and start working on other farms. But he eventually decided to leave Andalusia for good due to the “pollution” that the wind brought in from Gibraltar.
“I want to live in a place that is protected from society’s influences, such as sound and pollution. But I don’t want to be isolated. I want it to be a refuge in nature where anyone can stay, even if just for a little while,” he told the newspaper.
His journey took him to Sierra Nevada, where he was advised to continue his search in Portugal. It was during this time that his donkeys mated and the family grew.
Along the way, he was helped by people who would ask to be photographed with the donkeys or have their children ride them. But he says he never asked for money. “People helped me because I never exploited my donkeys. The most important thing is for them to be happy.”
His original plan was to reach the village of Pedralva in Vila do Bispo, but bad weather forced him to stop in Monchique.
He quickly drew locals’ attention and the municipal veterinarian was called to check if the donkeys were okay. She then contacted Filipe Duarte, a specialist in trails who has long been interested in setting up a project with donkeys.
Describing Nestmann as a “good man who needs help”, Duarte has since found him a house to stay temporarily, which has some outdoor space for the donkeys.
Now plans are to get Nestmann’s documentation in order at the German consulate in Faro and see if there is any way that he can accomplish his dream in Monchique.
Mayor Rui André has confirmed he is providing “any possible support”.
To follow Nestmann’s journey, visit http://project-sanctuary-happy-donkeys.jimdo.com or his Facebook page Calufi Frelu.
http://portugalresident.com/german-man-travels-1200kms-to-monchique-in-search-of-good-home-to-live-with-his-donkeys
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As long as they takes jack-asses as well as donkeys, Cameron ought to feel right at home.
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As long as they takes jack-asses as well as donkeys, Cameron ought to feel right at home.
The news that David Cameron's favourite Algarve retreat in the Monchique Hills could become a donkey sanctuary will no doubt be the last thing on his mind given the less than favourable response by Parliament today to his plans to bomb Syria.
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The news that David Cameron's favourite Algarve retreat in the Monchique Hills could become a donkey sanctuary will no doubt be the last thing on his mind given the less than favourable response by Parliament today to his plans to bomb Syria.
Cameron could end up a bit of an ASS if his forthcoming vote on bombing ISIL backfires.
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This is sheer magic!
Story - Portimão airport goes big league!
Photo - handyman fixes crack in ceiling! Hilarious!
I just hope that cracked beam is not weight-bearing.
From a mere acorn the mighty oak doth grow.
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Cameron could end up a bit of an ASS if his forthcoming vote on bombing ISIL backfires.
Well I suppose it's better than making a pig of yourself. 8**8:/:
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Trial starts for Briton who buried partner in backyard
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By Carrie-Marie Bratley
30 November 2015
British ex-pat Nigel Jackson, who buried his partner of 27 years in the garden of their villa and is suspected of having murdered her, started his trial on Monday morning in the Algarve city of Portimão.
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Standing before a panel of judges the 60-year-old ex-pat, who has been held in custody at Silves jail since January, was read the charges of murder, desecration of a body, theft, credit card abuse and computer fraud.
Prosecutors accuse him of having murdered Brenda Davidson, who was 12 years his senior, at their home in the countryside hamlet of Alcalar, Portimão, in November last year.
He is also indicted of using her credit cards and selling off her gold as well as passing himself off as the 72-year-old in emails and text messages to cover her death.
At the time he was romantically involved with a 42-year-old Portuguese university teacher.
Brenda’s body was found buried under rubble and concrete next to a swimming pool in the villa’s backyard in January this year after Portuguese police visited the property upon being contacted by their British counterparts.
The alarm was raised in the UK by Brenda’s son Dean, 42, who contacted the police after not hearing from his mother for a while.
Following his arrest in January, Jackson confessed to having buried Brenda’s body but claimed she had taken her own life.
Yesterday (Monday) he upheld that version of events; denying he had murdered Ms. Davidson Jackson said he had found her lifeless body surrounded by “very black” blood on the floor of their home after returning from a round of golf.
He stated: “I know it wasn’t me. I wasn’t there.”
Recalling how since 2009 Ms. Davidson had twice been diagnosed with cancer, for which she had been operated and was undergoing tests and treatment, Jackson alleges in recent months had told him “week after week” that she wanted the disease “out of her” and had had a series of falls in the ten days before her death.
He said when he found her he had noted Ms. Davidson had “a small cut to her neck” but didn’t call emergency services as he was in shock and not certain she was dead.
Unable to specify exactly what day he had made the gruesome discovery, Jackson said he knew it was “the weekend before Lewis Hamilton won the championships”, in November.
Brenda Davidson is believed to have died sometime between 22 and 24 November 2014.
Jackson also claimed he buried her in the garden at her request, following a pact they had made years earlier that if anything were to happen to either of them they wanted to be buried on the property “to be with their babies”, their pet animals.
He explained how he “worked all night” to make “a proper grave” for his partner.
However, Judiciary Police (PJ) detectives giving evidence at the trial told the judges no animal bones were found where Brenda had been buried and also said, in their experience, the way the body had been buried was more consistent with having been unceremoniously “dumped”.
The PJ detectives shot down Jackson’s claim Brenda’s death was suicide, saying her wounds were incompatible with self-inflicted injuries and “totally impossible” to have been suicide.
Based on forensic evidence found at the property during the investigation they affirm a violent struggle took place.
During his testimony Jackson further explained the excuses given to family and friends in the months following her death, to cover her disappearance.
He said he had made the excuses that she was overseas or had left him to give her spirit “40 days and 40 nights” to settle and be freed, a belief he claims to uphold as a Quaker, a religion to which he says he converted in the late 1980s.
Ms. Davidson’s son Dean, a former police officer himself, was at Monday’s trial, and told the judges it was his mother’s wish that in the event of her death her ashes should be scattered in the same spot where her mother’s ashes had been scattered in the UK.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/trial-starts-for-briton-who-buried-partner-in-backyard/36784
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Algarve body-in-garden Brit tells court: “I didn’t do it”
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By NATASHA DONN
1 December 2015
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International press was in court in Portimão on Monday to hear a former British taxi-driver plead not guilty to the horrific murder of a 72-year-old grandmother in her Alcalar home late last year.
Nigel Jackson, 60, is accused of murdering Brenda Davidson as part of a plot to live with his new Portuguese lover.
Prosecutors contend that he repeatedly beat his partner of 27 years round the head and then stabbed her to death.
They claim he wrapped her body inside plastic sheeting and buried her in a shallow cement grave in the back garden, while telling neighbours that she had gone back to England for treatment for a nasty cough.
Jackson allegedly sold the dead woman’s jewellery, used her bank cards and “tippexed” her name off the deeds of the property she owned, replacing it with his.
The court heard that Mrs Davidson’s cause of death was severe injuries to the back of the head - the kind that could not be self-inflicted.
But Jackson told the court he was innocent. Breaking down in tears, he said he came home from a game of golf, found her “lying in a pool of blood” and “assumed she had committed suicide”.
Mrs Davidson had been very sick for some time with two forms of cancer, he told the court. She had been talking about suicide “all the time”.
Jackson added: “We had discussed what we wanted to do if either of us died and we decided we wanted to be buried next to the animals in the garden. I honoured Brenda’s wishes.”
He explained that he had wrapped the mother-of-four in plastic “because she was cold”.
Jackson eventually led police to the grave after Mrs Davidson’s son Dean had become increasingly worried over his mother’s safety and alerted the British Consulate in Portimão.
Dean travelled to Portugal for the court hearing, and told the bench that Jackson’s claim that his mother must have bludgeoned herself round the back of the head was “just another of his made-up stories”.
“He has never told the truth all the time I have known him”, the retired policeman said. “I would class him as an habitual liar”.
Carlos Pimenta, the officer who headed the police investigation, told the court it was “totally impossible” that the wounds Mrs Davidson sustained “could have been the result of suicide”.
Pimenta added that traces of blood on the walls and furniture indicated that a struggle had taken place before she died.
Jackson is charged with murder, the desecration of a corpse, theft, two counts of credit card misuse and computer fraud.
He has been held in Silves jail since Mrs Davidson’s severely decomposed remains were discovered on January 6.
Asked by one of the three judges when exactly Brenda Davidson had died, Jackson replied: “I know the weekend but not the calendar. It looks silly, but I know Lewis Hamilton became world champion on that weekend” (November 22-23).
This suggests Mrs Davidson had been dead over six weeks before her body was discovered.
The trial was adjourned until Tuesday, December 15.
http://portugalresident.com/algarve-body-in-garden-brit-tells-court-%E2%80%9Ci-didn%E2%80%99t-do-it%E2%80%9D#sthash.0VGTDP9v.dpuf
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Christmas magic lights up Faro children’s home
BY CARRIE-MARIE BRATLEY, IN ALGARVE · 03-12-2015 13:48:00 · 0 COMMENTS
On Tuesday this week the Refúgio Aboim Ascensão children’s home in Faro held its annual ‘lighting of the Christmas tree’ ceremony in the presence of local and national dignitaries, employees, volunteers and supporters of the home.
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Every year the Refúgio makes an occasion of switching on the thousands of bulbs on the home’s century-old tree, inviting hundreds of guests to share its young charges’ excitement.
This year was the 30th anniversary of the ceremony and guests of honour included D. Manuel Quintas, Bishop of the Algarve, Faro Mayor Rogério Bacalhau and Manuel Pereira Cracel, President of the Association for Officials of the Armed Forces.
Dr. Luís Villas Boas, the head of the home and one of the country’s leading campaigners for children’s rights, took the opportunity to voice his thoughts on the current state of childcare and protection in Portugal, and his hopes for progress.
During formal speeches preceding the lighting of the tree, Dr. Villas Boas seized the moment to urge change in Portugal and for care homes to stop being perceived as “deposits” for institutionalised children.
He stressed the need for more effort to be channelled into foster care and early intervention for endangered babies and youngsters.
Mayor Bacalhau reiterated that message, saying it is “everyone’s responsibility to report any cases we may see or know of, of children at risk, to minimise the impacts and dangers.”
Describing the Refúgio’s Christmas tree as “an iconic symbol” of Faro, he added, Tuesday evening’s event marked the start of the festive season not only for the home but also for the city.
After the speeches came the moment the children had been waiting for, when the thousands of colourful bulbs were finally illuminated, bringing the old tree to life.
Breaking with the tradition of inviting the dignitaries to flip the switches and light the tree up section by section, this year it was the children’s job, much to the delight of the home’s young residents.
The Refúgio has also recently taken delivery of a brand-new 45-seater ‘Dream Bus’, donated to the home courtesy of members of the British community in Quinta do Lago.
Funds for the bus were raised through a series of charity events held by the group over the past three years. In turn, the Refúgio gave one of its smaller buses to the Bom Samaritano children’s home in Alvor.
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/christmas-magic-lights-up-faro-childrens-home/36807
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http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/kent-bouncer-sentenced-to-jail-by-portuguese-court-for-gbh/37639
Kent bouncer sentenced to jail by Portuguese court for GBH
BY CARRIE-MARIE BRATLEY, IN NEWS · 03-03-2016 14:12:00 · 0 COMMENTS
A man from Kent has been sentenced to seven years in jail by a Portuguese court after being found guilty of intentionally inflicting serious head injuries to a young Portuguese man on a night out in Albufeira in 2011, which the court said ultimately led to the victim’s death.
British national John Hodgson, from Kent, has been sentenced by Portimão court in the Algarve to a seven-year prison sentence after being found guilty by a collective of judges of grievous bodily harm, aggravated by the outcome.
Victim Ricardo Teixeira, 23, received a blow to the side of his head from Hodgson, who has been described professionally as a bouncer, during a run-in at Matt’s Bar in Albufeira on a night out on 7 July 2011.
Teixeira was, the presiding Judge recalled during sentencing, left “between life and death for a week” after spending several days in a coma due to his injuries, which included brain haemorrhaging, before he died.
The verdict, passed on Friday (26 February), was upped from the Public Prosecutor’s original indictment of straightforward bodily harm after the judges concluded that the injury had been caused consciously and intentionally and was ultimately the “direct cause” of the victim’s death.
As well as seven years in jail Hodgson, who is in his twenties, has been instructed to pay compensation to the victim’s family in excess of €138,000.
Hodgson, who left Portugal immediately after the incident and has not attended any of the court hearings, was not present for the sentencing last week either.
According to his defence lawyer, the Briton was notified last December that trial proceedings were about to begin, and will now also be notified of the outcome.
Portimão court will contact its counterpart in the UK which will in turn officially notify John Hodgson of the sentence.
His lawyer explained Hodgson has the chance to appeal before having to fulfil the decree.
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Posted by portugalpress on April 05, 2016
PJ chief inspector arrested on suspicion of corruption
A chief inspector described as working “for many years” with the PJ’s drugs squad was taken into custody by his own police force on Tuesday, suspected of corruption, money-laundering and trafficking. Also detained was a former PJ coordinator, now retired, and suspected of similar offences. Sábado broke the news, suggesting more arrests would follow with the focus on a massive network smuggling “large quantities of cocaine”.
In fact, Sábado named the chief inspector as Ricardo Macedo, and his former coordinator as Dias Santos.
The investigation dubbed Operation Achilles has taken years to unravel because of its complexity.
According to papers picking up on the details, the men are thought to have “received bribes from important trafficking networks to supply privileged information and create diversion tactics, within the PJ, that allowed large quantities of cocaine to be smuggled into Portugal over the years without coming to the notice of police forces”.
Tuesday’s operation was led by the PJ’s UNCC (national anti-corruption unit), in collaboration with the UNCTE (drug squad) and DCIAP (central department of investigation).
As many 15 people are thought to have been arrested on various charges, all connected to both corruption and trafficking.
Ages of those arrested range from 39 to 61, writes national tabloid Correio da Manhã.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
- See more at: http://portugalresident.com/pj-chief-inspector-arrested-on-suspicion-of-corruption#sthash.vO08IUxT.EC5CFFKX.dpuf
Congratulations are due to the Portuguese authorities who are making a real and possibly a personally dangerous effort to root out the corruption apparently endemic within some branches of law enforcement.
It may have been a long time coming but it seems throwbacks to pre 25 de Abril mores and attitudes are incompatible with the modern State.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/14/british-mother-disappears-from-algarve-home-with-her-two-childre/
Gerard Couzens
14 APRIL 2016 • 11:33PM
Police in Portugal launched a manhunt after a British mother-of-two disappeared from her Algarve home with her young children.
Christine Davies, 28, vanished on April 4 with daughters Lily Rodwell, 18 months, and three-month-old Ruby while their father Aaron was out running errands.
Cash was also missing from their rented bungalow in Boliqueime near Loule along with the children’s birth certificates and Lily’s passport.
Mr Rodwell, Ms Davies' partner of nearly 15 years, spoke of his concern for his children’s wellbeing on Thursday night as he revealed all his efforts to contact her had failed.
An all-ports warning is thought to have put out for the missing mother, although Mr Rodwell said he had no evidence she had left the country.
She had just started a job as a waitress at a local tapas bar but failed to show up there.
Police have already interviewed the owner as well as twice quizzing 29-year-old Mr Rodwell, who is from Liverpool like his partner.
“I have no doubts Christine has left voluntarily but I’m concerned for her emotional wellbeing and obviously our children," he said.
“She loves them and I’m sure wouldn’t do them any harm but that doesn’t mean they’re not at risk if she’s emotionally not in the right frame of mind.
“I’ve put missing posters in the windows of shops and local businesses in towns across the Algarve. I really want her to contact the authorities so I know the children are OK, even if she doesn’t want to come home.
“I rang her the night before she disappeared asking her to come home early so she could be with the children because I needed help.
“She was supposed to finish about 10pm that night but came back about 7pm.
“I left early the following day to go into Albufeira and run some errands and that was the last time I saw her or heard from her.
“Her mobile’s not working anymore and her email has been disconnected.
“A neighbour has told me she saw a man in a hire car coming to pick up her and helping her load the vehicle up while I was gone.
“The house was in a bit of a mess so it looks like she’s packed in a hurry.
“Lily had an active UK passport which has gone along with Christine’s but the younger one didn’t have one as far as I’m aware and I’ve checked with the British embassy who say no emergency travel document has been drafted.
“I’m beside myself with worry. I can’t sleep at the house anymore. To be honest, I’ve had to check into a hotel because I just can’t stand looking at the walls and the children’s toys that are still on the floor.”
A spokesman for the local GNR police force said: “I can confirm we are investigating the disappearance of a British woman and her two young children.”
A source close to the case said: “Police were contacted by the father of the children about a week after his partner and the kids disappeared.
“He says he left the house early on April 4 and they weren’t there when he returned a couple of hours later.
“Officers are actively searching for them and keeping an open mind on the disappearance, including the possibility it was voluntary and she was helped to leave the property.
“The children’s wellbeing is paramount and police are obviously anxious to track them and the mother down as soon as possible.”
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It sounds as if she has probably left him, but didn't bother to tell him.
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It sounds as if she has probably left him, but didn't bother to tell him.
I think there is a bit more to this one Jassi :(.
BBC radio news reported that the home had been ransacked. Rodwell took a week to report the 3 missing.
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I think there is a bit more to this one Jassi :(.
BBC radio news reported that the home had been ransacked. Rodwell took a week to report the 3 missing.
True, that aspect id a bit strange. However she seems to have been later seen at a campsite and reputedly sent him an email. I guess we will need to see what else is reported.
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An update - http://portugalresident.com/update-british-mum-in-hiding-in-algarve-describes-%E2%80%9Cyears-of-abuse%E2%80%9D#sthash.sORBh5VW.dpuf
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An update - http://portugalresident.com/update-british-mum-in-hiding-in-algarve-describes-%E2%80%9Cyears-of-abuse%E2%80%9D#sthash.sORBh5VW.dpuf
Thanks for that, Jassi. At least she is now safe & we are not reading about another tragedy. Let's hope the authorities act in the best interests of mum & children.
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This caught my eye tonight.
http://portugalresident.com/confidential-secret-service-documents-from-portugal-%E2%80%9Cappear-inadvertently%E2%80%9D-in-west-africa
It sounds like something out of Monty Python, but news receiving little mention in the popular press today (Thursday) is that confidential reports from Portugal’s SIS secret services, and the PSP and GNR police, have “appeared inadvertently in a local business in West Africa”.
Detection of the leak, as Observador website calls it, has put “national, and consequently international security at risk”.
The documents were in the possession of a “citizen who appeared to be from Eastern Europe”, adds Observador.
This individual - now suspected of having links to an international arms trafficking network that involved Portuguese citizens - approached a West African company “in search of a service” and was asked by an employee of the company for various documents.
Among the paperwork he subsequently provided was “a series of apparently confidential reports”.
While the purported Eastern European then went missing (his identity is “completely unknown”, says Observador), the content of the confidential reports has proved quite shocking.
SIED, Portugal’s strategic defence information service, “was immediately contacted” and agents left Lisbon for Africa to “apprehend the documents and try and understand if they had been, in one form or other, replicated”, explains Observador.
Among the stash were 2011 and 2012 SIS reports on Hell’s Angels activity in Portugal, “tracing links to alleged crimes of drugs and arms trafficking, extortion and pimping”, and including names and addresses of purported members of the biking fraternity, as well as a number of photographs.
There was also a GNR report on “a series of thefts from hotels in the Algarve” - complete with references and photographs of citizens under suspicion - and further police-collated information on robberies from vans and lorries carrying tobacco throughout Portugal.
Included too was a further report from the Information System of the Army. It was one “used during the military exercise dubbed Intelligence”.
“As well as the positions of the military during this exercise, and its objective, there was detailed information like the names and telephone numbers of personnel responsible for training,” writes Observador.
“Some of the documents appear to have been digitalised from original documents, others appear to be digital copies of originals.”
In the same file, there were also “various security manuals on international installations, and a NATO manual on (the military exercise) Intelligence in English”, adds Observador, finally alluding to an “organigram (organisational chart) on an alleged drugs trafficking network that operated on an international level, with all its links”.
This organigram was “written in Portuguese”, says the website.
As bizarre as all this information sounds, it is barely touched on anywhere else in the national press - and according to Observador, three attempts for some kind of clarification from SIED or the office of prime minister António Costa (“to whom SIED reports”) have been stonewalled.
The Attorney General’s office has also failed to reply to questions on whether there is an inquiry now ongoing within the Public Ministry.
Meantime, Observador’s story is being rapidly shared by Internet news services.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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This caught my eye tonight.
http://portugalresident.com/confidential-secret-service-documents-from-portugal-%E2%80%9Cappear-inadvertently%E2%80%9D-in-west-africa
It sounds like something out of Monty Python, but news receiving little mention in the popular press today (Thursday) is that confidential reports from Portugal’s SIS secret services, and the PSP and GNR police, have “appeared inadvertently in a local business in West Africa”.
Detection of the leak, as Observador website calls it, has put “national, and consequently international security at risk”.
The documents were in the possession of a “citizen who appeared to be from Eastern Europe”, adds Observador.
This individual - now suspected of having links to an international arms trafficking network that involved Portuguese citizens - approached a West African company “in search of a service” and was asked by an employee of the company for various documents.
Among the paperwork he subsequently provided was “a series of apparently confidential reports”.
While the purported Eastern European then went missing (his identity is “completely unknown”, says Observador), the content of the confidential reports has proved quite shocking.
SIED, Portugal’s strategic defence information service, “was immediately contacted” and agents left Lisbon for Africa to “apprehend the documents and try and understand if they had been, in one form or other, replicated”, explains Observador.
Among the stash were 2011 and 2012 SIS reports on Hell’s Angels activity in Portugal, “tracing links to alleged crimes of drugs and arms trafficking, extortion and pimping”, and including names and addresses of purported members of the biking fraternity, as well as a number of photographs.
There was also a GNR report on “a series of thefts from hotels in the Algarve” - complete with references and photographs of citizens under suspicion - and further police-collated information on robberies from vans and lorries carrying tobacco throughout Portugal.
Included too was a further report from the Information System of the Army. It was one “used during the military exercise dubbed Intelligence”.
“As well as the positions of the military during this exercise, and its objective, there was detailed information like the names and telephone numbers of personnel responsible for training,” writes Observador.
“Some of the documents appear to have been digitalised from original documents, others appear to be digital copies of originals.”
In the same file, there were also “various security manuals on international installations, and a NATO manual on (the military exercise) Intelligence in English”, adds Observador, finally alluding to an “organigram (organisational chart) on an alleged drugs trafficking network that operated on an international level, with all its links”.
This organigram was “written in Portuguese”, says the website.
As bizarre as all this information sounds, it is barely touched on anywhere else in the national press - and according to Observador, three attempts for some kind of clarification from SIED or the office of prime minister António Costa (“to whom SIED reports”) have been stonewalled.
The Attorney General’s office has also failed to reply to questions on whether there is an inquiry now ongoing within the Public Ministry.
Meantime, Observador’s story is being rapidly shared by Internet news services.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
So Portugal isn't a sleepy little backwater, cut off from the worldwide outrages of the twenty first century, wherein all that goes amiss is the fault of 'the couple McCann, after all.
There is a great deal in that article which is worthy of very serious contemplation.
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So Portugal isn't a sleepy little backwater, cut off from the worldwide outrages of the twenty first century, wherein all that goes amiss is the fault of 'the couple McCann, after all.
There is a great deal in that article which is worthy of very serious contemplation.
Yes it is a country that allows child abductiion, made even easier when kids are left alone and whose parents tell strangers they are beng left alone
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I don't recall anyone referring to Portugal as a sleepy backwater. Luz yes, Portugal no.
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I don't recall anyone referring to Portugal as a sleepy backwater. Luz yes, Portugal no.
The thrust of Donn's article which Misty posted for our information involved such a lot to get one's teeth into ...
- real espionage ... with national and international implications
- organised crime ... trafficking ~ drugs etc
So what was a diversion from that?
My description of Portugal as a supposed "sleepy backwater" &%+((£
May I respectfully point out, there are those who market Portugal as such. May I also respectfully suggest that in future when criticising my posts, you first of all do some homework.
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Portugal’s lively capital, Lisbon, has one of the mildest climates in Western Europe and sits at the mouth of the great River Tagus. It is home to the monumental architecture of the Golden Age of Exploration, making it the perfect place from which to begin your own discovery of this historic land. After delving into its bustling streets and lesser-known quarters, the peace and quiet of the Serra de São Mamede to the north-east comes as a welcome contrast.
Relatively untouched by the passage of time, this is a land of golden, rolling hills, topped by glistening, fortified villages along the border with Spain.
A sleepy backwater, where you are transported back into the timeless traditions of deepest, rural Portugal.
https://www.inntravel.co.uk/holidays/journeys/portugal/an-alentejo-adventure
Whatever ... the important information contained in the post to which I was replying seems to have passed you by. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6299.msg356275#msg356275
I think it is well worth perusing and even discussing to the exclusion of petty point scoring which imo does absolutely nothing to enhance the reputation of the forum.
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The thrust of Donn's article which Misty posted for our information involved such a lot to get one's teeth into ...
- real espionage ... with national and international implications
- organised crime ... trafficking ~ drugs etc
So what was a diversion from that?
My description of Portugal as a supposed "sleepy backwater" &%+((£
May I respectfully point out, there are those who market Portugal as such. May I also respectfully suggest that in future when criticising my posts, you first of all do some homework.
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Portugal’s lively capital, Lisbon, has one of the mildest climates in Western Europe and sits at the mouth of the great River Tagus. It is home to the monumental architecture of the Golden Age of Exploration, making it the perfect place from which to begin your own discovery of this historic land. After delving into its bustling streets and lesser-known quarters, the peace and quiet of the Serra de São Mamede to the north-east comes as a welcome contrast.
Relatively untouched by the passage of time, this is a land of golden, rolling hills, topped by glistening, fortified villages along the border with Spain.
A sleepy backwater, where you are transported back into the timeless traditions of deepest, rural Portugal.
https://www.inntravel.co.uk/holidays/journeys/portugal/an-alentejo-adventure
Whatever ... the important information contained in the post to which I was replying seems to have passed you by. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6299.msg356275#msg356275
I think it is well worth perusing and even discussing to the exclusion of petty point scoring which imo does absolutely nothing to enhance the reputation of the forum.
Petty point scoring? That's exactly how I interpreted your comment;
"So Portugal isn't a sleepy little backwater, cut off from the worldwide outrages of the twenty first century, wherein all that goes amiss is the fault of 'the couple McCann, after all.
There is a great deal in that article which is worthy of very serious contemplation"
If you read your own 'homework' again it doesn't describe Portugal as a sleepy little backwater, it describes as such a certain rural area of Portugal, so you haven't supported your first assertion.
I haven't seen anything suggesting that everything which has gone amiss in Portugal has been laid at the door of the McCanns, either; another unsupported allegation.
The diversion is yours trying to use an unrelated article to support your own views on the McCann case.
We already knew there were drugs in Portugal. I think Amaral had some success in that area as I recall? It's nice to learn that the GNR didn't ignore thefts from hotels either. No-one has, as far as I know, suggested that Portugal was crime-free. Just PdL in connection with the McCann case.
All I see is an allegation that the Portuguese had confidential information stolen. They aren't the first and I doubt if they will be the last.
Trying to relate unrelated news about Portugal to the McCann case does nothing to enhance the reputation of the forum imo.
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Petty point scoring? That's exactly how I interpreted your comment;
"So Portugal isn't a sleepy little backwater, cut off from the worldwide outrages of the twenty first century, wherein all that goes amiss is the fault of 'the couple McCann, after all.
There is a great deal in that article which is worthy of very serious contemplation"
If you read your own 'homework' again it doesn't describe Portugal as a sleepy little backwater, it describes as such a certain rural area of Portugal, so you haven't supported your first assertion.
I haven't seen anything suggesting that everything which has gone amiss in Portugal has been laid at the door of the McCanns, either; another unsupported allegation.
The diversion is yours trying to use an unrelated article to support your own views on the McCann case.
We already knew there were drugs in Portugal. I think Amaral had some success in that area as I recall? It's nice to learn that the GNR didn't ignore thefts from hotels either. No-one has, as far as I know, suggested that Portugal was crime-free. Just PdL in connection with the McCann case.
All I see is an allegation that the Portuguese had confidential information stolen. They aren't the first and I doubt if they will be the last.
Trying to relate unrelated news about Portugal to the McCann case does nothing to enhance the reputation of the forum imo.
See ... it is easy to voice an opinion and argument based on the original concept when you put your mind to it.
You should try it more often rather than tailoring your reply to your interpretation of what you think a poster may have said 8((()*/ but actually did not.
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See ... it is easy to voice an opinion and argument based on the original concept when you put your mind to it.
You should try it more often rather than tailoring your reply to your interpretation of what you think a poster may have said 8((()*/ but actually did not.
I haven't got a clue what you mean, sorry. I replied to your post which was quite clear. It was factually incorrect and it unsuccessfully attempted to relate the story quoted to the McCanns. Glad you liked it though. @)(++(*
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I haven't got a clue what you mean, sorry. I replied to your post which was quite clear. It was factually incorrect and it unsuccessfully attempted to relate the story quoted to the McCanns. Glad you liked it though. @)(++(*
I'm at a loss to understand why you so readily dismiss the existence of a GNR report into a series of thefts from hotels on the Algarve when SY stated that burglary was one line of enquiry being pursued. Perhaps the names of suspects in that report lead to bigger fish abroad but any investigation could be compromised as a result of this leak.
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I'm at a loss to understand why you so readily dismiss the existence of a GNR report into a series of thefts from hotels on the Algarve when SY stated that burglary was one line of enquiry being pursued. Perhaps the names of suspects in that report lead to bigger fish abroad but any investigation could be compromised as a result of this leak.
It seems there has been no official cover up regarding the leaking of sensitive documents ... the government is just refusing to divulge anything at all.
I think there may be a reluctance to look at the wider picture as far as Madeleine's disappearance is concerned in discussion on the internet. It all seems to be very one dimensional. It is possible she could have been taken in isolation, it is also possible that organised crime could be involved. We just don't know.
I think it is interesting that specific documents were asked for. What interest would international espionage have in hotel thefts in the Algarve? One would have thought ... not a lot.
There things going on in the background that we never hear about; whether or not Madeleine's case could be compromised by these police documents being leaked will most likely never be known; but what an eclectic mix of information someone went to a lot of trouble and no doubt expense to get their hands on.
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I'm at a loss to understand why you so readily dismiss the existence of a GNR report into a series of thefts from hotels on the Algarve when SY stated that burglary was one line of enquiry being pursued. Perhaps the names of suspects in that report lead to bigger fish abroad but any investigation could be compromised as a result of this leak.
I commented, perhaps you didn't notice? People have hinted at their incompetence, but it seems they were on top of things after all.
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It seems there has been no official cover up regarding the leaking of sensitive documents ... the government is just refusing to divulge anything at all.
I think there may be a reluctance to look at the wider picture as far as Madeleine's disappearance is concerned in discussion on the internet. It all seems to be very one dimensional. It is possible she could have been taken in isolation, it is also possible that organised crime could be involved. We just don't know.
I think it is interesting that specific documents were asked for. What interest would international espionage have in hotel thefts in the Algarve? One would have thought ... not a lot.
There things going on in the background that we never hear about; whether or not Madeleine's case could be compromised by these police documents being leaked will most likely never be known; but what an eclectic mix of information someone went to a lot of trouble and no doubt expense to get their hands on.
Bit biased and delusional at best
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Apologies folks, entirely my fault but we are all off topic. 8)><( We should have been discussing this on the 'discussion' thread.
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Apologies folks, entirely my fault but we are all off topic. 8)><( We should have been discussing this on the 'discussion' thread.
I posted the article here because it partly relates to the Algarve & there is no direct relation to the latest news on MM.
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I commented, perhaps you didn't notice? People have hinted at their incompetence, but it seems they were on top of things after all.
9 years have since passed. That's a long period in which to prepare a report on information not readily available to Team Amaral in 2007 & very publicly highlighted by SY years later.
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9 years have since passed. That's a long period in which to prepare a report on information not readily available to Team Amaral in 2007 & very publicly highlighted by SY years later.
When was the report written? It doesn't say. What period of time does it refer to? It doesn't say. There is no reason to assume it's anything to do with 2007 except speculation, unless I've missed something.
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When was the report written? It doesn't say. What period of time does it refer to? It doesn't say. There is no reason to assume it's anything to do with 2007 except speculation, unless I've missed something.
It may not be anything to do with 2007 other than the coincidence of hotel thefts. However, you have to question why a GNR report on that matter should be with other such highly sensitive documents. Aren't you just a teensy bit curious?
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I posted the article here because it partly relates to the Algarve & there is no direct relation to the latest news on MM.
I think your initial post is fine, Misty. The problem arises from the ensuing discussion which I led. I should have taken that to the discussion thread so very much mea culpa.
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The thrust of Donn's article which Misty posted for our information involved such a lot to get one's teeth into ...
- real espionage ... with national and international implications
- organised crime ... trafficking ~ drugs etc
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So what was a diversion from that?
My description of Portugal as a supposed "sleepy backwater" &%+((£
May I respectfully point out, there are those who market Portugal as such. May I also respectfully suggest that in future when criticising my posts, you first of all do some homework.
**snip
Portugal’s lively capital, Lisbon, has one of the mildest climates in Western Europe and sits at the mouth of the great River Tagus. It is home to the monumental architecture of the Golden Age of Exploration, making it the perfect place from which to begin your own discovery of this historic land. After delving into its bustling streets and lesser-known quarters, the peace and quiet of the Serra de São Mamede to the north-east comes as a welcome contrast.
Relatively untouched by the passage of time, this is a land of golden, rolling hills, topped by glistening, fortified villages along the border with Spain.
A sleepy backwater, where you are transported back into the timeless traditions of deepest, rural Portugal.
https://www.inntravel.co.uk/holidays/journeys/portugal/an-alentejo-adventure
Whatever ... the important information contained in the post to which I was replying seems to have passed you by. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6299.msg356275#msg356275
I think it is well worth perusing and even discussing to the exclusion of petty point scoring which imo does absolutely nothing to enhance the reputation of the forum.
Bearing in mind Portugal's long term history* why would we be surprised at any of it?
It is hardly an earth shattering revelation now is it ? Just one more country like a lot of others.
*Going back to 15th Century not just the 20th century fascisti bit so beloved by some... 8(>((
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Missing Dutch children found in Albufeira
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By João Tavares and Rui Pando Gomes
19 November 2016
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Two 16-year-old Dutch children missing since Tuesday were found at 3pm Saturday at a hotel in Albufeira. Sam Bruijis and Femke Lucas will be handed over to the Judicial Police and, after some diligence, to the family.
Authorities will now try to understand the motivations for this escape for the two friends, who did not return home after another school day. The Dutch police, through video surveillance cameras, managed to establish that the minors boarded a plane that went to Malaga, Spain. Relatives had even gone to Malaga, where they have been distributing leaflets with photographs of the disappeared. They also launched several appeals on social networks, namely Facebook. The girls then passed through Marbella and entered Portugal.
On Friday night, the authorities received a tip off that Sam and Femke had been seen in Albufeira. They were intercepted by the police yesterday and taken into protective custody.
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/menores-holandesas-desaparecidas-encontradas-em-albufeira?ref=HP_Destaque
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Interesting Judgement for the Supreme Court to ponder; EUR 60,000 is chickenfeed compared to EUR 500,000;
Portuguese journalist wins landmark case over freedom of expression
A Portuguese journalist condemned to pay €60,000 for an opinion article he wrote in 2006 has finally won what will undoubtedly become a landmark case for freedom of expression.
José Manuel Fernandes - formerly editor of Público (now publisher of news review website Observador) - was found guilty of defamation by the full gamut of Portuguese courts.
But the European Court of Human Rights has now ruled that these courts “exceeded their margin of appreciation” in maintaining Fernandes’ enormous indemnity - one which it pointed out was equivalent to a sum attributed over a death.
The State has thus been ordered to pay Fernandes €9,400 “plus expenses” within a three-month deadline from today.
It hasn’t been explained this way, but the “plus expenses” clause is likely to run to hefty sum, considering Fernandes has been fighting this judicial battle for the best part of a decade.
The article that started Fernandes’ litigation nightmare centred on a critique of the appointment of Noronha do Nascimento to head up the Supreme Tribunal of Justice.
Noronha do Nascimento took exception to being considered the personification of the “dark side of our justice system”, and took out a prosecution for defamation.
As Observador explains, the ECHR is available to any citizen who has exhausted the judicial means at their disposal and who feels their human rights have been violated.
And today the ECHR ruled in Fernandes’ favour, saying there was “no reasonable relationship of proportionality between the restriction of freedom of expression of the complainant and the objective pursued of protecting the good name of Noronha do Nascimento”.
For anyone following ‘freedom of expression’ cases - like that of former Maddie cop Gonçalo Amaral, or of currently jailed activist Maria de Lurdes (click here) - this ruling may well set a valid precedent over “reasonable relationship of proportionality”. The pity is that people have to fight so long to win it.
http://portugalresident.com/portuguese-journalist-wins-landmark-case-over-freedom-of-expression
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Interesting Judgement for the Supreme Court to ponder; EUR 60,000 is chickenfeed compared to EUR 500,000;
Portuguese journalist wins landmark case over freedom of expression
A Portuguese journalist condemned to pay €60,000 for an opinion article he wrote in 2006 has finally won what will undoubtedly become a landmark case for freedom of expression.
José Manuel Fernandes - formerly editor of Público (now publisher of news review website Observador) - was found guilty of defamation by the full gamut of Portuguese courts.
But the European Court of Human Rights has now ruled that these courts “exceeded their margin of appreciation” in maintaining Fernandes’ enormous indemnity - one which it pointed out was equivalent to a sum attributed over a death.
The State has thus been ordered to pay Fernandes €9,400 “plus expenses” within a three-month deadline from today.
It hasn’t been explained this way, but the “plus expenses” clause is likely to run to hefty sum, considering Fernandes has been fighting this judicial battle for the best part of a decade.
The article that started Fernandes’ litigation nightmare centred on a critique of the appointment of Noronha do Nascimento to head up the Supreme Tribunal of Justice.
Noronha do Nascimento took exception to being considered the personification of the “dark side of our justice system”, and took out a prosecution for defamation.
As Observador explains, the ECHR is available to any citizen who has exhausted the judicial means at their disposal and who feels their human rights have been violated.
And today the ECHR ruled in Fernandes’ favour, saying there was “no reasonable relationship of proportionality between the restriction of freedom of expression of the complainant and the objective pursued of protecting the good name of Noronha do Nascimento”.
For anyone following ‘freedom of expression’ cases - like that of former Maddie cop Gonçalo Amaral, or of currently jailed activist Maria de Lurdes (click here) - this ruling may well set a valid precedent over “reasonable relationship of proportionality”. The pity is that people have to fight so long to win it.
http://portugalresident.com/portuguese-journalist-wins-landmark-case-over-freedom-of-expression
Journalists enjoy a greater freedom of speech than normal citizens under ECHR rules.
Amaral was either a member of the public when he wrote his book or an ex-cop breaching judicial secrecy. It will be interesting to see which way the STJ judge swings.
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I thought there were several of these judges. Surely they won't all be swingers .
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About a year ago a teenage girl went missing in the Agarve region and was later found dead. Her clothing had been interfered with in a manner suggestive of rape. Her hands were bound. Her head had sustained a massive injury. It appears someone had tried to dismember her body with an axe.
The background is that the teenager lived with her step-father and her mother, before the mother decided to kick the man out. But he would return periodically for an amorous encounter with the mother.
The girl complained to her mother that the man was touching her up and trying to have sex with her. But the mother let the visits continue.
One day the mother went to the girl's bedroom. Her phone was still there and there were study books open on the bed. It was as if the girl had simply got up and walked out.
The police asked step-father if he knew anything about the girl's disappearance and he said he did not. He hung around for a few days then disappeared prior to the discovery of the girl's body.
The step-father is Moldovan. A little while back, he was hauled over by the Moldovan police for speeding. When they entered the offence details into their system, it flagged up that an international arrest warrant was in place for him, on suspicion of murder.
It seems he was returned to the Algarve yesterday.
Our source for this is the nails lady in Lagos, so a number of points in this saga may get changed as and when a more official source explains what is going on. However, our nails lady was very good friends indeed with the girl, so equally you may have some inside information that will not be published by the press.
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About a year ago a teenage girl went missing in the Agarve region and was later found dead. Her clothing had been interfered with in a manner suggestive of rape. Her hands were bound. Her head had sustained a massive injury. It appears someone had tried to dismember her body with an axe.
The background is that the teenager lived with her step-father and her mother, before the mother decided to kick the man out. But he would return periodically for an amorous encounter with the mother.
The girl complained to her mother that the man was touching her up and trying to have sex with her. But the mother let the visits continue.
One day the mother went to the girl's bedroom. Her phone was still there and there were study books open on the bed. It was as if the girl had simply got up and walked out.
The police asked step-father if he knew anything about the girl's disappearance and he said he did not. He hung around for a few days then disappeared prior to the discovery of the girl's body.
The step-father is Moldovan. A little while back, he was hauled over by the Moldovan police for speeding. When they entered the offence details into their system, it flagged up that an international arrest warrant was in place for him, on suspicion of murder.
It seems he was returned to the Algarve yesterday.
Our source for this is the nails lady in Lagos, so a number of points in this saga may get changed as and when a more official source explains what is going on. However, our nails lady was very good friends indeed with the girl, so equally you may have some inside information that will not be published by the press.
That's another sad, if oh-so-familiar, case. Do you have any names as I can't see anything on google about this crime?
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That's another sad, if oh-so-familiar, case. Do you have any names as I can't see anything on google about this crime?
I'll second that request please.
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About a year ago a teenage girl went missing in the Agarve region and was later found dead. Her clothing had been interfered with in a manner suggestive of rape. Her hands were bound. Her head had sustained a massive injury. It appears someone had tried to dismember her body with an axe.
The background is that the teenager lived with her step-father and her mother, before the mother decided to kick the man out. But he would return periodically for an amorous encounter with the mother.
The girl complained to her mother that the man was touching her up and trying to have sex with her. But the mother let the visits continue.
One day the mother went to the girl's bedroom. Her phone was still there and there were study books open on the bed. It was as if the girl had simply got up and walked out.
The police asked step-father if he knew anything about the girl's disappearance and he said he did not. He hung around for a few days then disappeared prior to the discovery of the girl's body.
The step-father is Moldovan. A little while back, he was hauled over by the Moldovan police for speeding. When they entered the offence details into their system, it flagged up that an international arrest warrant was in place for him, on suspicion of murder.
It seems he was returned to the Algarve yesterday.
Our source for this is the nails lady in Lagos, so a number of points in this saga may get changed as and when a more official source explains what is going on. However, our nails lady was very good friends indeed with the girl, so equally you may have some inside information that will not be published by the press.
Is this the story?
Never forgetting Bruna: one year on, the 17-year-old’s brutal killer has yet be brought to justice
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‘The teenager appealed to local GNR police for help, saying her stepfather was abusive … The police even confronted Oprea - a fact that locals say sealed Bruna’s fate’
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As one of the Algarve’s most hideous murders last year comes to trial in Portimão, another remains poignantly ‘open’ with the man police are certain killed teenager Bruna Nunes still ‘out there’ somewhere, evading the authorities.
Interpol and Europol arrest warrants have been distributed throughout all countries known to have been frequented by Mikhail Razvan Oprea, but since two days after 17-year-old Bruna went missing all trace of him seems to have vanished.
This is not completely surprising as it appears 34-year-old Oprea – known locally as “Miguel” - may have had multiple identities.
This is a story so tragic that it has to be told if only to alert people to the importance of ‘saying things the way they are’. Had the little community of Aldeia Velha, near Rogil (Aljezur) done this, Bruna Nunes may have lived to enjoy her 18th birthday last May, and gone on to win yet more prizes for the Aljezur Speed Skating Club - where she had already won distinction as junior national champion.
For Bruna had drummed up the courage to make an official complaint against Oprea, who was her mother’s younger partner, and the father of her little sister.
Read more... (http://portugalresident.com/never-forgetting-bruna-one-year-on-the-17-year-old’s-brutal-killer-has-yet-be-brought-to-justice)
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Is this the story?
Never forgetting Bruna: one year on, the 17-year-old’s brutal killer has yet be brought to justice
(http://portugalresident.com/sites/default/files/Bruna%20Nunes.jpg)
‘The teenager appealed to local GNR police for help, saying her stepfather was abusive … The police even confronted Oprea - a fact that locals say sealed Bruna’s fate’
(http://portugalresident.com/sites/default/files/Bruna%20Nunes%20skating_0.jpg)
As one of the Algarve’s most hideous murders last year comes to trial in Portimão, another remains poignantly ‘open’ with the man police are certain killed teenager Bruna Nunes still ‘out there’ somewhere, evading the authorities.
Interpol and Europol arrest warrants have been distributed throughout all countries known to have been frequented by Mikhail Razvan Oprea, but since two days after 17-year-old Bruna went missing all trace of him seems to have vanished.
This is not completely surprising as it appears 34-year-old Oprea – known locally as “Miguel” - may have had multiple identities.
This is a story so tragic that it has to be told if only to alert people to the importance of ‘saying things the way they are’. Had the little community of Aldeia Velha, near Rogil (Aljezur) done this, Bruna Nunes may have lived to enjoy her 18th birthday last May, and gone on to win yet more prizes for the Aljezur Speed Skating Club - where she had already won distinction as junior national champion.
For Bruna had drummed up the courage to make an official complaint against Oprea, who was her mother’s younger partner, and the father of her little sister.
Read more... (http://portugalresident.com/never-forgetting-bruna-one-year-on-the-17-year-old’s-brutal-killer-has-yet-be-brought-to-justice)
Yes. My apologies for not taking the time to research the original story. Apart from our nails lady's input, the only hard fact I had was the name of the girl. 'Bruna' is not an easy starting point, and for obvious reasons we did not wish to go back to our source to request a surname. I simply thought the story would turn up in one of the Algarve newspapers.
Excellent find!
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Yes. My apologies for not taking the time to research the original story. Apart from our nails lady's input, the only hard fact I had was the name of the girl. 'Bruna' is not an easy starting point, and for obvious reasons we did not wish to go back to our source to request a surname. I simply thought the story would turn up in one of the Algarve newspapers.
Excellent find!
Another murder at the hands of another non EU immigrant. I hope they hang the b....r!!
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Poor girl.
According to this, the stepfather is Romanian.
http://tvmais.sapo.pt/casosdepolicia/2015-01-05-Padrasto-assassino
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Poor girl.
According to this, the stepfather is Romanian.
http://tvmais.sapo.pt/casosdepolicia/2015-01-05-Padrasto-assassino
Apparently so but had multiple identities. One wonders what else he got up to before fleeing to Portugal?
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Contracting a hitman to kill your husband is “not a crime”, says court
Following on from the ruling that ‘grabbing your wife by the neck does not constitute domestic violence” (click here) , Portuguese judges appear to have gone a step further. A court in S. João Novo has ruled that although 38-year-old Fernanda Salomé was filmed hiring a hitman to kill her ex-husband, she cannot be found guilty of having committed a crime.
Judges have conceded, nonetheless, that this is a sentence that “common citizens” will find “hard to understand”.
Correio da Manhã explains that the decision rests on the fact that despite Salomé’s patent desire to kill her husband, the men she went on to hire “never meant to carry the job through”.
The victim was “never in any harm”, and Salomé did not go into any details for his death: she did not set a place, or time. “Everything was dependant on the will of the contracted (men)”.
One of these was Alfredo Damas, who has also been ‘absolved’ of wrongdoing, but ordered with Salomé to pay €10,000 in compensation to the husband who became “tormented”, the court heard, after hearing his ex-wife’s plans.
The court heard that Salomé’s ‘hit’ at one point also involved her ex’s mother and current girlfriend.
CM said that throughout the trial, Fernanda Salomé denied that her desires to kill her husband had to do with his million euro fortune. She insisted that the €175,000 ‘hit’ was simply ordered because she wanted him dead.
Seeing his client freed has left defence lawyer Luísa Macanjo “satisfied”, but it is causing ructions within the Public Ministry.
CM says the PM may well put in an appeal, as could the victim - himself a lawyer.
As to the judges’ ruling being “compreehensible”, penal law expert André Ventura has told the paper that it most certainly is not.
He explains that it “contradicts the fixing of jurisprudence in 2009 that considers these kind of cases as attempted murder. It also establishes the idea that penal censure depends on the will of third parties, when it should focus on the conduct of those who planned, negotiated and determined”.
The case could conceivably go on appeal to the Supreme Court which CM explains might act very differently. In 2007, for example, Portuguese American businessman Manuel Albert Soares - absolved in a lower court of hiring Russian hitmen to kill his wife - ended up being condemned to jail for a period of nearly five years.
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http://portugalresident.com/contracting-a-hitman-to-kill-your-husband-is-%E2%80%9Cnot-a-crime%E2%80%9D-says-court
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Contracting a hitman to kill your husband is “not a crime”, says court
Following on from the ruling that ‘grabbing your wife by the neck does not constitute domestic violence” (click here) , Portuguese judges appear to have gone a step further. A court in S. João Novo has ruled that although 38-year-old Fernanda Salomé was filmed hiring a hitman to kill her ex-husband, she cannot be found guilty of having committed a crime.
Judges have conceded, nonetheless, that this is a sentence that “common citizens” will find “hard to understand”.
Correio da Manhã explains that the decision rests on the fact that despite Salomé’s patent desire to kill her husband, the men she went on to hire “never meant to carry the job through”.
The victim was “never in any harm”, and Salomé did not go into any details for his death: she did not set a place, or time. “Everything was dependant on the will of the contracted (men)”.
One of these was Alfredo Damas, who has also been ‘absolved’ of wrongdoing, but ordered with Salomé to pay €10,000 in compensation to the husband who became “tormented”, the court heard, after hearing his ex-wife’s plans.
The court heard that Salomé’s ‘hit’ at one point also involved her ex’s mother and current girlfriend.
CM said that throughout the trial, Fernanda Salomé denied that her desires to kill her husband had to do with his million euro fortune. She insisted that the €175,000 ‘hit’ was simply ordered because she wanted him dead.
Seeing his client freed has left defence lawyer Luísa Macanjo “satisfied”, but it is causing ructions within the Public Ministry.
CM says the PM may well put in an appeal, as could the victim - himself a lawyer.
As to the judges’ ruling being “compreehensible”, penal law expert André Ventura has told the paper that it most certainly is not.
He explains that it “contradicts the fixing of jurisprudence in 2009 that considers these kind of cases as attempted murder. It also establishes the idea that penal censure depends on the will of third parties, when it should focus on the conduct of those who planned, negotiated and determined”.
The case could conceivably go on appeal to the Supreme Court which CM explains might act very differently. In 2007, for example, Portuguese American businessman Manuel Albert Soares - absolved in a lower court of hiring Russian hitmen to kill his wife - ended up being condemned to jail for a period of nearly five years.
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http://portugalresident.com/contracting-a-hitman-to-kill-your-husband-is-%E2%80%9Cnot-a-crime%E2%80%9D-says-court
Is there anything in Portugal which is constituted a crime, apart from calling someone a derogatory name?
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Obviously her right to hire a hitman to kill her husband outweighed his right not to have his wife plotting to kill him. Perfectly reasonable I'm sure.
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Obviously her right to hire a hitman to kill her husband outweighed his right not to have his wife plotting to kill him. Perfectly reasonable I'm sure.
Tell me another one, do.
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http://portugalresident.com/international-child-porn-ring-under-investigation-throughout-portugal
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on February 15, 2017
International child porn ring under investigation throughout Portugal
Operation Daylight began last week, with PJ police searching properties in Lisbon and Porto in an investigation into the suspected sharing of images depicting child pornography. Now, the probe has gone ‘national’, say reports, with searches confiscating computers and other IT storage devices this week in the Algarve, Coimbra, Aveiro and Trás-os-Montes. Europol is coordinating efforts, which extend to a number of countries, writes Correio da Manhã.
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Maybe something, or nothing. This operation hit the news last year. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/europol-uncover-major-online-child-abuse-network-160823180514888.html
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Child rapist grilled over Madeleine McCann dies in prison http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/child-rapist-grilled-over-madeleine-mccann-dies-in-prison/ar-AAnHLaR?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
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Child rapist grilled over Madeleine McCann dies in prison http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/child-rapist-grilled-over-madeleine-mccann-dies-in-prison/ar-AAnHLaR?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
Perhaps police should have just gently poached him instead of grilling 8(0(*
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Perhaps police should have just gently poached him instead of grilling 8(0(*
No I think it would be best if he was battered.
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Child rapist grilled over Madeleine McCann dies in prison http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/child-rapist-grilled-over-madeleine-mccann-dies-in-prison/ar-AAnHLaR?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
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He is understood to have run a cleaning business in the Algarve when Madeleine went missing.
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/child-rapist-grilled-over-madeleine-mccann-dies-in-prison/ar-AAnHLaR?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
Looks as if police may have followed this line of inquiry in 2014 ... Police Try To Trace Six British Cleaners In Search For Madeleine McCann http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/14/police-try-to-trace-six-british-cleaners-in-search-for-madeleine-mccann_n_7368754.html
Wonder if it led anywhere further or was ruled out?
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He is understood to have run a cleaning business in the Algarve when Madeleine went missing.
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/child-rapist-grilled-over-madeleine-mccann-dies-in-prison/ar-AAnHLaR?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
Looks as if police may have followed this line of inquiry in 2014 ... Police Try To Trace Six British Cleaners In Search For Madeleine McCann http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/14/police-try-to-trace-six-british-cleaners-in-search-for-madeleine-mccann_n_7368754.html
Wonder if it led anywhere further or was ruled out?
Well his MO isn't a good fit.
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Well his MO isn't a good fit.
Diversion, and the McCann's try to claim Madeleine hasn't come to harm ????
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Diversion, and the McCann's try to claim Madeleine hasn't come to harm ????
There is no evidence that Madeleine has come to any harm. I am sure we are all with her parents in hoping this will prove to be the case.
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There is no evidence that Madeleine has come to any harm. I am sure we are all with her parents in hoping this will prove to be the case.
Yet OG officers were to be seen on their hands and knees in the hot sun digging away looking for a live and findable child? hardly likely I'd venture,unless of course they were just there for a bit of landscaping.
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Yet OG officers were to be seen on their hands and knees in the hot sun digging away looking for a live and findable child? hardly likely I'd venture,unless of course they were just there for a bit of landscaping.
Quite right Barrier.
They weren't searching for a cuddlecat, were they.
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Yet OG officers were to be seen on their hands and knees in the hot sun digging away looking for a live and findable child? hardly likely I'd venture,unless of course they were just there for a bit of landscaping.
Perhaps you might consider the possibility that they were looking for evidence that Madeleine had come to harm, but failed to find any, leading one to the correct conclusion that there is no evidence that Madeleine has come to any harm?
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Perhaps you might consider the possibility that they were looking for evidence that Madeleine had come to harm, but failed to find any, leading one to the correct conclusion that there is no evidence that Madeleine has come to any harm?
It took all of 7 years to reach that stage.Did/ have they made any such statement following that landscaping exercise.
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It took all of 7 years to reach that stage.Did/ have they made any such statement following that landscaping exercise.
No, and why should they?
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Former PJ inspector suspected of frustrating operation with DEA
APRIL 18, 2017
1:03 PM
Carlos Rodrigues Lima
(http://static.globalnoticias.pt/dn/image.aspx?type=generate&name=original&id=6226046&w=579&h=371&t=20170418130400)
Prosecutor charged 29 people in Operation Achilles for crimes of criminal association, corruption and drug trafficking
"La Maquina". It was at the end of 2007 that the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), sent the nickname known to some criminal organizations in South America as an informant to PJ himself . This after a joint operation between the two police officers was frustrated by a "tip" that reached the traffickers, prompting them to cancel the shipment of the drug to Europe. Ten years later, the Public Prosecution Office considers that there is sufficient evidence to charge the informant "la maquina", Carlos Dias Santos, a former PJ inspector, and another suspect: Ricardo Macedo, chief inspector, who will also have collaborated with drug cartels.
The 2007 episode opens the indictment of prosecutors Vítor Magalhães, João Melo and Lígia Salbany of the Central Department of Investigation and Criminal Action against 29 defendants accused of crimes of criminal association, active and passive corruption, drug trafficking, among others.
In the indictment, the MP considers that the conduct of the defendants Carlos Dias dos Santos, the coordinator of the reformed criminal investigation, and Ricardo Macedo, the chief inspector still in office, "violated the loyalty demanded for their quality of PJ inspectors and infringed The rules and requirements of legality, objectivity, impartiality and independence ". Carlos Dias dos Santos and Ricardo Macedo are accused of aggravated drug trafficking, a criminal association with a view to trafficking and passive corruption to commit illicit acts. Another of the 29 defendants is the GNR military officer José Baltazar da Silva, who is responsible for aggravated drug trafficking and a criminal association aimed at drug trafficking.
Although there have been suspicions of links between the two Judiciary men for several years to the world of drug trafficking, only a few years ago a team from the National Anti-Corruption Unit of the Judicial Police investigated them thoroughly, crossing information from various processes and maintaining The suspects under tight, but discreet, vigilance. The impetus for the investigation will be based on new information given by the North Americans in 2013, clearly identifying Dias Santos and Ricardo Macedo as the "moles" of some drug traffickers, especially a Colombian group whose leader is known as "Papi."
One of the cases attributed to Ricardo Macedo is a trip made by this and another judicial inspector to Morocco in 2012, according to his own version, to contact an informant, a Raul Rosa, who had fled from Portugal, while serving a prison sentence and subject to electronic surveillance. It is that, at the same time of this trip, the PJ of Leiria was preparing a covert action to catch a shipment of drug and at the same time to arrest again Raul Rosa. Something that did not happen because, according to the prosecution, such a trip was only a pretext to inform the trafficker of the ongoing investigation.
As a result of the alleged collaboration with some trafficking networks, Dias Santos and Ricardo Macedo have received hundreds of thousands of euros for years. In fact, Dias Santos, being under house arrest under the Operation Achilles, did not restrain himself from buying a high-powered car. According to the Public Prosecutor's Office, the former inspector of the Judiciary simply had no declared income to do so. In fact, Carlos Dias Santos is still suspected of having resorted to the bank accounts of a godmother to conceal the origin of a few thousand euros that will have been handed to him by the traffickers.
Yesterday, contacted by DN, lawyer Carlos Melo Alves, who represents Dias Santos, told DN that it is most likely to request the opening of the instruction, since "according to my client", he said, "the facts described do not correspond to the truth". DN sought to listen to Rodrigo Santiago, Ricardo Macedo's lawyer, but this was not possible.
The UNCC investigation also detected several money inflows into Ricardo Macedo's bank accounts. At the same time, police found that the former chief inspector only suspected that he was under investigation, and that he began making frequent movements with his bank card, something that had not happened until then, indicating that he would have access to cash. After the DCIAP indictment, the case will be heard at the Central Criminal Investigation Court.
http://www.dn.pt/sociedade/interior/ex-inspetor-da-pj-e-suspeito-de-ter-frustrado-operacao-com-a-dea-6226046.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
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http://portugalresident.com/kidnap-dad-who-kept-daughter-in-attic-gets-former-job-back-with-maritime-police
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on April 21, 2017
Kidnap dad Paulo Guiomar is out on parole from the three year jail term he received for abducting his seven year old daughter, and back working in Faro’s Maritime Police.
According to Correio da Manhã, the only condition imposed on the father still barred from even seeing his daughter is that he doesn’t carry a service revolver.
Guiomar is working in admin, says CM - having completed two thirds of his sentence.
His daughter, Maria Alice is now 12 and back living with her mother, Carla Evangelista who spent two years desperate to discover the child’s whereabouts (click here).
Evangelista is described as “refusing to make any commentary” on the situation.
It is known that Maria Alice was profoundly affected by her years ‘on the run’ with Guiomar and his mother, Maria Dolores.
The child told the court trying her father for kidnap that she had her hair cut “to look like a boy” and spent time in numerous places, including an attic in Belgium “that had no windows”.
Sentencing Guiomar, one of the judges said the situation “should never have happened” and caused Maria Alice “serious upsets which she has not yet been able to process”
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The poor mother & daughter must be living in fear again.
A convicted kidnapper allowed to work in the Maritime police admin........he'll be useful to someone.
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So news in the Algarve.......
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So news in the Algarve.......
This case was discussed on here a while back.
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Is it a good idea to give this criminal policeman (who kidnapped his own child whilst her mother had no idea of her whereabouts for TWO YEARS) his job back? Does this pass as a good example of Portuguese justice in your book then?
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Is it a good idea to give this criminal policeman (who kidnapped his own child whilst her mother had no idea of her whereabouts for TWO YEARS) his job back? Does this pass as a good example of Portuguese justice in your book then?
On a scale of 0 to 10 re relevance to Madeleine's disappearance, I would rate it as a zero. If I wrote about corruption in the LP or the Met, it would have exactly the same relevance - none.
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On a scale of 0 to 10 re relevance to Madeleine's disappearance, I would rate it as a zero. If I wrote about corruption in the LP or the Met, it would have exactly the same relevance - none.
I beg your pardon. This thread is entitled "News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve" - there have been other news stories posted on here that have "zero relevance" to Madeleine's disappearance yet I don't see you complaining about those.
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I beg your pardon. This thread is entitled "News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve" - there have been other news stories posted on here that have "zero relevance" to Madeleine's disappearance yet I don't see you complaining about those.
I think you are being disingenuous, Alfie.
I consider that at the time the human bones story was reported it just might have had some relevance to Madeleine, albeit it turned out it had none.
If the moderators decide to give you licence to produce unrelated, salacious information about Portugal, who am I to complain? It is not reflecting on me, is it?
You asked for an opinion. I gave you my opinion. That you do not like my opinion is not my problem.
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On a scale of 0 to 10 re relevance to Madeleine's disappearance, I would rate it as a zero. If I wrote about corruption in the LP or the Met, it would have exactly the same relevance - none.
it has relavence in as much as some of the PJ involved in maddies case have criminal records
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Is it a good idea to give this criminal policeman (who kidnapped his own child whilst her mother had no idea of her whereabouts for TWO YEARS) his job back? Does this pass as a good example of Portuguese justice in your book then?
I so agree Alfie, this sort of thing does no favours whatsoever for a police force which has already received so much criticism. Returning this cop to duty after kidnapping his own child sends out a very poor message.
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http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/comment-the-mccanns-have-been-punished-for-their-biggest-mistake-theres-nothing-to-be-gained-by-reminding-them-of-it/ar-BBAsBQg?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
"We have two choices. We can grab the popcorn and watch the decade-long disaster movie play out, hoping for the most exciting possible ending.
Or we can write off the keyboard warriors as cranks and ghouls, and keep our fingers crossed for a miracle for Madeleine."
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http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/comment-the-mccanns-have-been-punished-for-their-biggest-mistake-theres-nothing-to-be-gained-by-reminding-them-of-it/ar-BBAsBQg?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP
"We have two choices. We can grab the popcorn and watch the decade-long disaster movie play out, hoping for the most exciting possible ending.
Or we can write off the keyboard warriors as cranks and ghouls, and keep our fingers crossed for a miracle for Madeleine."
8((()*/ Agree with every word.
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Have we had this one before "Mystery phone call reporting burglary could hold key to solving Madeleine McCann case"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mystery-phone-call-reporting-burglary-10278677
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http://www.brainstain.co.uk/2017/05/03/10-years-madeleine-mccann-disappearance/
"ASSESSING THE THEORIES OF MADELEINE MCCANN’S DISAPPEARANCE 10 YEARS ON"
Today is May 3rd, 2017, which marks the ten year anniversary of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and sadly the Police and the Investigations have brought zero credible solutions, as to the mystery of her vanishing. All that’s left are theories and no solid evidence.
The Portuguese Police have been blamed, then the Leicestershire Police blamed the Portuguese Police, then later the parents, Kate and Gerry McCann were under investigation and were even blamed by the Portuguese Police, at one point in time. The Metropolitan Police have also naturally been involved, but ten years on, still to no avail, Gerry and Kate have still not given up hope and they have said that they will continue to engage in further investigations in the hope that one day their child will come home.
Madeleine Beth McCann, 3-years-old at the time, went missing from a rented basement apartment in Praia Da Luz, in the Algarve region of Portugal on May 3rd 2007, when her parents Kate and Gerry McCann had left her in the lower ground apartment, whilst they attended a dinner. They also left their two twins in there for the evening. Kate McCann had put the kids to bed at 20:30pm and was said to have gone back to check on them, every thirty minutes, whilst they ate dinner at a nearby restaurant. But, when Kate went back to check on them at 22:00pm, Madeleine was gone, she had vanished.
Since then, there have been some official theories in the case, so let’s bring you the common theories as to what some people believed to have happened to Madeleine McCann, and then we will leave a probability rating for each published theory, as at this stage it might even help to eliminate some of these theories from being investigated.
Credit: News.com
Some say it was a Burglary Gone Wrong, some people really want to run with the theory that a thief entered the basement apartment to steal things, but then discovered that there were children inside and Madeleine McCann was awoken by the noise and came face to face with the burglar who in a moment of panic, picked up the child and ran off with her. Probability Rating: 2/10
Abduction by a Lone Paedophile is a broad and loose theory that Madeleine McCann was selected for abduction by a paedophile and abducted into obscurity somewhere, but where? And, how exactly? You mean to tell us there would be no trail or sightings of her, with just one person trying to abduct her? Yet, this theory was apparently bolstered when it was discovered that two years before Madeleine’s disappearance, a 10-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by a paedophile in Praia Da Luz, along with reports of other young children being assaulted by intruders in holiday homes in the Algarve, previously. But, all known sex offenders and paedophiles in the area, had already been investigated extensively, with no results and with no connection to Madeleine McCann’s disappearance ever being found. Probability Rating: 3/10
Human Trafficking is another theory which presumes that Madeleine McCann was spotted by human traffickers on the beach and was selected for being trafficked. In 2007, private detectives claimed they had evidence for human trafficking spotters being active in the area, prior to Madeleine’s disappearance. The theory is that Madeleine was abducted then held for two days in the Algarve before being shipped to nearby Morocco, “hidden and handed over to a child trafficker two days after she went missing and taken to Morocco”, said the Daily Mirror. Some people believe that with a human trafficking ring, this was the most logical reason as to why Madeleine would disappear without a trace. Probability Rating: 4/10
The Parents were investigated and blamed by senior detective Goncalo Amaral, who believed that Madeleine died in the holiday apartment and her parents covered up her death and disposed of her body. However, after being investigated for 15 months, which included a time where a sniffer dog was set upon a trail of blood that the dog reacted to in a rental car, which was hired by the McCann’s three weeks before her disappearance, as investigations came to be closed months later without any concrete evidence, and the parents have always maintained their innocence. But, was the whole going to dinner thing, apart of the scam as the Portuguese police initially thought as a perfect cover for their child to ultimately go missing? It seems unlikely that two doctors would rather let their child die, than raise the alarm to save her. Probability Rating: 1/10
By Accident which definitely sounds like the most ridiculous theory yet, which states that Madeleine McCann woke up to find her parents not at home, so she went looking for her parents and opened and unlocked the patio doors of the apartment, then fell into a roadworks pit, where she later dies and was knocked out. Later, she wasn’t spotted the next day in the hole and the hole was covered up, the next morning. So, according to that theory Madeleine’s body would be under the road, near the flat in Praia Del Luz still. The other scenario, suggests she woke up and went searching for her parents but was hit by a car on the way, and the driver picked up her body and put it in the car and disposed of it. As if nobody would hear the bang of this accident? Probability Rating: 0/10
Abducted by Childless Couple is another theory that states that a couple unable to have children saw an opportunity in abducting Madeleine and then took it. This is the preferred theory of the McCann’s because it would signal that she is still alive today and at 3-years-old she might have been manageable to raise as their own. Probability Rating: 3/10
Now, that we’ve covered some of the theories that are out there, we will cover another theory that’s out there, that we believe to be the most credible theory out there with a touch of our own beliefs on the subject. Everyone else is investigating it, so why can’t we?
The chilling E-Sketches of two suspects of interest, yet, never found. Look like anyone, that somebody knows? Credit: MetPolice
She was Abducted by an Elite Pedophile Ring on holiday in the Algarve at the time, around May 3rd in 2007, and we are talking more or less about the types of people who are seemingly considered “above the law”. We are talking about people that have a thirst for children with presumable Satanic ties. So above the law in fact, that not even Police or Private investigators would ever be able to challenge them if pointed out as suspects, because of their elite and high up connections in the world, including in the media, press and in the political realm. We presume that it was at least three people present when they set out to snatch Madeleine McCann from the apartment in an opportunistic abduction, with one driver waiting outside, another man on standby and on look out outside the basement apartment, whilst the third suspect went inside the basement flat through the window or an unlocked door, and then grabbed her, covering her mouth and meeting the two suspects, and then carrying her into the awaiting car and driving off to another holiday home in the area. What happened next, only god knows? However, some might find this to be unrealistic, but this theory would align with the current reality of no clues, no evidence and a full ten years of no real leads and no evidence of her current existence. Vanished without a trace. Some even believe that when investigations have led them to these known suspects, Police and Investigators will have had to deviate from being on the correct trail of finally finding Madeleine or at least the right suspects in the case. Now, if she was taken to another holiday home in the area, where there are several hundreds of apartments and villas to comfortably hide her in, with at least three people being involved and present, they could take their time and decide what was best to do in the circumstances. Probability Rating: 9/10
Additionally, there were reports on the beach of Praia Da Luz, that British locals were approached days before Madeleine’s disappearance by men asking for donations for an orphanage, that did not even exist after research of its existence (orphanage in a nearby town) was conducted. So, who were these men and why would they be asking for donations for an orphanage that did not exist? Were they simply making a cover for themselves as part of a sick game in their heads, before abducting Madeleine McCann, playing up to the locals as “do-gooders” for orphaned children? This could be probable and yet it sounds very bizarre, but whoever did this, are very sick people indeed and it was probably seen as a fun game for them, in effect playing with the locals ahead of their planned abduction.
So, what have we learned? Not much, but those are some of the theories and we very much believe in the last one provided, but tonight you can watch Searching for Madeleine McCann on Sky News at 20:00pm (GMT) and see whether we all become any wiser, as to what happened in the Madeleine McCann mystery, that seemingly never ends. it is unlikely that she is alive, however, if she was abducted by an elite paedophile ring, some believe that she may still be alive today, but has been living under a new identity. Who knows? Will we ever know? All this remains to be solved after ten years on the anniversary of her disappearance.
Brainstain, over and out!
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Featured Photo Credit: The Bolton News
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http://portugalresident.com/%E2%80%9Cnightmare-over%E2%80%9D-case-against-british-father-and-son-who-fatally-tackled-burglar-finally-archived
The nightmare scenario of prosecution hanging over a British father and son who tackled a burglar in their Vilamoura home, accidentally killing him in a chokehold, has at last been settled.
The Public Ministry has concluded that Trevor and Scott Taylor acted in legitimate self-defence, and even if there was “an excess of means” used in restraining burglar Paulo Brito, this came from the duo’s “fear and fright” and should not be punished.
The Public Ministry’s conclusions will now be passed to a judge in Loulé, but for all intents and purposes, the inquiry has been closed.
The case hit national and international headlines in September 2015. The media spotlight led the Taylor family to go into hiding, and they have never spoken publicly about their ordeal.
For the full story, click here.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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A sensible decision for once.
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New story in the Sun tonight by T. Kandohla, 6.45 pm.
According to ''pals'', The Mccann's have come to the end of the legal road and will not be going to the European Court.
They no longer have the '' time, energy or funding '' to take Amaral to the highest court.
Well they couldn't anyway.
It would have been the State of Portugal.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/taxista-assassinado-por-engano-em-monchique?ref=HP_Grupo1
A taxi driver was killed in Monchique around 22.30pm last night.
The driver, aged 74, had not finished his shift, but was having a coffee with the proprietor of a café/bar, when the attack happened. It seems to be a case of mistaken identity.
The attacker, aged 48, was under the influence of alcohol, and the motive is thought to be jealousy.
The taxi driver suffered heart failure. The emergency services tried to restart his heart, but without success.
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Monchique is an extinct volcano in the Algarve. One of its lava flows is what is seen in Luz as Rocha Negra.
We have been up Monchique many years back for a night at a farmhouse. I had a local speciality, goat stew, and we shared a bottle of rosé. Then we fell into convivial conversation with a German couple, who were intending to get married. We later got an invitation to their wedding, but we never made it to Germany.
The news story above looks like it was in the village of Monchique, not up the volcano.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/taxista-assassinado-por-engano-em-monchique?ref=HP_Grupo1
A taxi driver was killed in Monchique around 22.30pm last night.
The driver, aged 74, had not finished his shift, but was having a coffee with the proprietor of a café/bar, when the attack happened. It seems to be a case of mistaken identity.
The attacker, aged 48, was under the influence of alcohol, and the motive is thought to be jealousy.
The taxi driver suffered heart failure. The emergency services tried to restart his heart, but without success.
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Monchique is an extinct volcano in the Algarve. One of its lava flows is what is seen in Luz as Rocha Negra.
We have been up Monchique many years back for a night at a farmhouse. I had a local speciality, goat stew, and we shared a bottle of rosé. Then we fell into convivial conversation with a German couple, who were intending to get married. We later got an invitation to their wedding, but we never made it to Germany.
The news story above looks like it was in the village of Monchique, not up the volcano.
And, of course that lava flow will have produced lava tubes (or lava tunnels) all over that area of the Algarve. Lava tubes(tunnels) can be mighty in diameter. One in Lanzarote even has a theatre with rows of terraced seating within it.
Could these tunnels have been used to whisk abducted children away?
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http://portugalresident.com/devastated-brits-told-bulldozers-can-demolish-%E2%80%98dream-algarve-home%E2%80%99-from-august-1
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on July 22, 2017
“Theatrical power couple” Paul Roseby and James Tod have been given the news they were dreading: the demolition order imposed on their dream Algarve home is legal.
The news, coming from Loulé’s fiscal and administrative court, means bulldozers can move in on the seaside property from August 1.
But the men refuse to go quietly.
They claim the demolition order is a “disproportionate act of aggression”, and they are now considering “suing the State for prejudicial discrimination”.
At the same time, they have thrown down a challenge to Olhão mayor António Pina to turn round his executive’s “ineptitude” and “resolve this insane and critical situation” before time runs out.
The Resident covered this story in March (click here), explaining that National Youth Theatre CEO Paul Roseby and his Broadway producer partner James Tod received all the necessary building permissions for their eco-friendly rebuild on the Ria Formosa island of Armona from Pina’s council.
Throughout the process they have been paying council taxes and utility charges.
In February however the pair received a letter from Portuguese environment agency APA saying their home had in fact been built on State (Public Maritime) land - over which Olhão council has no jurisdiction - and must therefore be demolished.
The letter was signed by APA director Sebastião Teixeira - locally reviled for his zeal in demolishing island properties along Ria Formosa.
As Roseby and Tod have repeatedly explained, theirs is not the only home that has crossed what they call the ‘invisible, out-of-date line’ that cuts through Armona island. But it is the only home that APA has slapped with a demolition order.
Back in March, the men said the stance smacked of discrimination because they are gay.
This week Roseby reiterated: “We remain the ONLY owners with such aggressive action taken against us” even though there are “roughly 140 properties” on the wrong side of the invisible line.
“We of course recognise the Loulé judge has acted within the interpretation of the law”, he said. But it opens a Pandora’s Box less than three months before fiercely-contested municipal elections.
For a start, it suggests Olhão council had no right to issue licences and permissions for that stretch of Armona - and that in doing so, it could well be liable to hefty claims for compensation.
Worse, Roseby says, is “the message the whole mess projects: that what is deemed legal by one administration can be thrown out by another in 21st century Portugal”.
“This story will inevitably prevent other European investment in the Eastern Algarve, and other parts of the country”, Roseby told us.
“What a shameful message to Europe and beyond as Portugal parades itself as an advanced modern democracy.
“Sadly we now know to our emotional and financial cost that this is simply not the case”.
Very well-connected with international media - it was The London Magazine that described the pair as “something of a theatrical power couple. Paul is a writer, director and broadcaster as well as being artistic director of the National Youth Theatre; while James is a Broadway and West End producer, who’s latest show, Flashdance – The Musical, played to packed houses in 2010” - Roseby and his partner are also planning some targeted ‘revenge’.
“We have no choice now but to go to UK and European press highlighting our injustice and the prejudicial action taken against us resulting in an attack on our human rights”, he said, adding “I do not want this to happen to any other foreign investor or home maker in the future, so all our endeavours will, I’m afraid, be focused outside of Portugal to prevent innocent victims like us being caught in an unjust (but supposedly legal) nightmare.
The pair will also be approaching the British Foreign Office, with a view to getting it too to spread the word.
“It is our strong and considered opinion that Pina and his local government must start acting seriously NOW on our behalf and to prevent the inevitable loss of 140 homes on Armona”, Roseby concluded in an email.
“Pina has until August 1st to appeal to APA and all central Government departments and members of his own political party to resolve this insane and critical situation”.
The clock is ticking. August 1 a little over a week away.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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This insane situation rumbles on in the very municipality Amaral once sought to be elected Mayor - although clearly this is nothing to do with him personally.
The same news story is here & some of the comments are interesting.
https://www.algarvedailynews.com/cases/ria-formosa/11606-ministry-ruling-means-british-couple-s-island-home-must-be-demolished
Evidence of possible corruption:-
http://www.lisbontaxitours.com/en/inspirations/feed-olhao-council-heirarchy-to-/
I read recently that the Camara had authorised plans for new luxury developments in the same areas where the demolitions are due to take place (can't find the link right now) so it's unsurprising the locals, both Portuguese & ex-pats who are affected, bear much anger & resentment at the Environment Secretary & the local politicians.
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Echoes of the Valencian land trap debacle in neighbouring Spain which still rumbles on. As in Portugal of course it is all to do with money and greed and the inappropriate use of political power.
http://worldwidelawyers.co.uk/2014/06/01/land-grabs-in-spain-what-are-the-risks/
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/ministra-do-mar-afasta-cenario-de-proibicao-de-pesca-da-sardinha-durante-15-anos?ref=HP_Grupo1
Minister of the Sea Ana Paula Vitorino has declared that the idea of a 15 year ban on sardine fishing is nonsense. Instead, stocks are to be managed alongside fellow sardine munchers Spain.
No doubt Sr Amaral will be delighted by this news. 8((()*/
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/alerta-cm-incendio-consome-dois-armazens-junto-a-centro-comercial-no-algarve?ref=HP_Destaque
A fire is raging at a warehouse in Guia, which is a popular shopping centre to the east of us, beside the N125.
Why does this interest me? Well, we are in the forest-fire season, and the north of Portugal is struggling with major fire after major fire. There is also news of a 50 year old tw*t who deliberately started a fire because she thought the bombeiros in action was exciting.
When we hauled up in Portugal, we used to visit a rather aging shopping complex just off the N125 in Portimão. Although a bit tired, it had all the shops one could want in easy walking distance. Then one day, for whatever reason, the whole complex burned down.
The warehouse fire is odd. It stocks granite and marble, which simply should not burn.
Houses in the Algarve are not normally fitted with either smoke detectors or sprinklers. I cannot say about hotels. We have a fire extinguisher in our home, but as it has never been tested in the three and a half years we have been here, I haven't got a clue as to whether it works or not.
It is all tinder-dry here as the result of several months of hot sun and zero rain. But how a marble and granite warehouse goes ablaze is puzzling.
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Forest fires can be so unpredictable, they can change direction in an instant throwing the rescue services into total disarray. Never to be underestimated.
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Police looking for missing English child on Luz beach
JULY 27, 2017
14:49
The English boy disappeared early in the afternoon
A child of English nationality has been missing since early afternoon on Praia da Luz in Lagos, Algarve, and police are investigating her whereabouts, police source Lusa told The Associated Press.
Speaking to the Lusa news agency, the Captain of the Port of Lagos, Conceição Duarte, indicated that the Maritime Police had been informed of the disappearance of the child, a boy of English nationality, and had made diligences in the vicinity of the beach.
According to Conceição Duarte, the disappearance occurred in the village and not on the beach, resulting in the operation by the National Republican Guard (GNR).
The Lusa agency tried to obtain information from the GNR, but so far it has not received any response.
However, an inhabitant of Praia da Luz told Lusa that the GNR is "knocking door to door in search of a child, who is said to be about eight years old."
It was at Praia da Luz that 10 years ago Maddie McCann disappeared, at the time three years. The whereabouts of the English girl were never discovered.
http://www.dn.pt/sociedade/interior/policia-procura-crianca-desaparecida-na-praia-da-luz-no-algarve-8667753.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
I hope they find him quickly.
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English child who was missing on Luz beach will have been found
JULY 27, 2017
14:49
The English boy will have about eight years
A child of English nationality disappeared early this afternoon at Praia da Luz in Lagos, Algarve, and authorities began searching for their whereabouts. According to a police source, the child has already been found.
Contacted by DN, GNR does not give information about the case.
http://www.dn.pt/sociedade/interior/policia-procura-crianca-desaparecida-na-praia-da-luz-no-algarve-8667753.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
Panic over, thank goodness.
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http://portugalresident.com/anger-as-young-welsh-woman-left-high-and-dry-in-portuguese-jail
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on July 27, 2017
The family of a young Welsh woman “stuck in a Portuguese jail” since April are at their wits end.
25-year-old Sophie Grey will not be granted bail as she has no Portuguese permanent address or family links, explains Wales Online.
Her father Roger said she is not even sure what she is meant to have done.
“She’s in a cell with four other people. The first person she met that could speak English was a murderer”.
Desperate for help, Roger Gray has approached his local MP David Davies.
Davies has described Sophie’s situation as “manifestly unfair”.
The MP for Monmouth is in touch with the Portuguese ambassador and foreign secretary Boris Johnson.
Hopes are that Sophie will be released and allowed home before the trial - scheduled for September 22.
Davies told reporters that as far as he is concerned, Sophie is being discriminated against.
“The whole point of the European Arrest Warrant is to ensure that people can be released before they attend court. It’s built on fair play and this isn’t fair play”.
As to Grey’s crime, this appears to be being treated as an assault on police.
Said her father, Sophie was in Portugal visiting her boyfriend who became “involved in an altercation with police”.
She was not there at the time, but “became agitated with police at her partner’s arrest and was charged with assaulting a police officer”.
“Sophie is not a violent person”, he added. “She’s quite feisty and she’ll stand her ground but she’s just a normal person in her 20s that wants to get on with her life.”
Former police officer Davies said that he doesn’t “condone any behaviour against the police but it’s manifestly unfair that she’s been in prison for something like that.
“If this happened in London, if she came up and yelled at an officer, they would have told her to calm down. If she continued she might have got a public order offence but it would have been a fairly minor crime.”
Roger Graey’s concerns are for his daughter’s well.being.
She is only allowed out of her cell into a concrete yard for two hours a day.
“Things are going backwards”, he told Wales Online. “At first we were told we would get her out in a couple of weeks, and home within a month, and it hasn’t happened”.
Sophie, who had been working in France, is “resigned to where she is”, he said, and “just trying to keep out of trouble”.
This appears to be the first time the story has surfaced, despite Sophie Grey’s arrest so many weeks ago. The BBC has since picked it up, so with any luck, developments may follow.
Roger Grey has told reporters that he did in fact find a place for his daughter to stay as she awaited the trial date, but “as there was not a family member living there, police feared she could abscond”.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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When you know that Cristovao, charged with multiple crimes, is out & about in the community, the above case makes the Portuguese justice system even more of a laughing stock. The McCanns were right to employ lawyers immediately.
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English child who was missing on Luz beach will have been found
JULY 27, 2017
14:49
The English boy will have about eight years
A child of English nationality disappeared early this afternoon at Praia da Luz in Lagos, Algarve, and authorities began searching for their whereabouts. According to a police source, the child has already been found.
Contacted by DN, GNR does not give information about the case.
http://www.dn.pt/sociedade/interior/policia-procura-crianca-desaparecida-na-praia-da-luz-no-algarve-8667753.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
Panic over, thank goodness.
http://portugalresident.com/british-child-reported-%E2%80%9Cmissing-from-praia-da-luz%E2%80%9D
UPDATE:
Correio da Manhã is now 'on the ground' following up this story, and it appears the child was missing for as many as five hours.
He was apparently on a walk with his parents, on the promontory below the trigonometry point above the beach, when he went missing.
His parents were "beside themselves with panic" when they realised they had lost sight of him, and after looking for him on their own, went to report his disappearance to police.
Around the same time - though we are not told exactly where - a 65-year-old British man "found" the child, and not knowing what to do with him, took him to Lagos PSP police station.
CM says police are still trying to work out exactly what happened.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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It's a little worrying that he seems to have gone in a vehicle with an elderly man along the coast to Lagos.
ETA The trig point would appear to be the obelisk, to where Kate & Gerry jogged up the cliff path. I'm not sure at what part of the headland the parents would have lost sight of their son.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/833796/boy-missing-Praia-Da-Luz-Madeleine-McCann-missing-2007
This report goes into quite a bit more detail about the event, the timings and the police response.
If correct, the response procedure has had a major overhaul since May 2007. It says that the GNR was in Luz 10 minutes after the alarm call, and a team from Lisbon was already heading to Luz when the boy was taken to Lagos PSP station.
Two points in this story are intriguing.
First, there is really only one way down that hill until you get to the bottom, so the boy must have disappeared when Luz opens up into a rabbit warren on the flat ground down there.
Second, why the 'finder' man did not simply phone the police is puzzling. Perhaps he thought the emergency services would not speak English. Mind you, he knew where the Lagos PSP station was, while I would have to look it up.
One very minor point. Most people call Luz 'Praia da Luz', even Portuguese locals. This may be one of those situations when misnaming it led to a bit of confusion. An initial report had the boy disappearing from the beach (praia) whereas the Express version is quite different.
But all's well that ends well. 8((()*/
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/833796/boy-missing-Praia-Da-Luz-Madeleine-McCann-missing-2007
This report goes into quite a bit more detail about the event, the timings and the police response.
If correct, the response procedure has had a major overhaul since May 2007. It says that the GNR was in Luz 10 minutes after the alarm call, and a team from Lisbon was already heading to Luz when the boy was taken to Lagos PSP station.
Two points in this story are intriguing.
First, there is really only one way down that hill until you get to the bottom, so the boy must have disappeared when Luz opens up into a rabbit warren on the flat ground down there.
Second, why the 'finder' man did not simply phone the police is puzzling. Perhaps he thought the emergency services would not speak English. Mind you, he knew where the Lagos PSP station was, while I would have to look it up.
One very minor point. Most people call Luz 'Praia da Luz', even Portuguese locals. This may be one of those situations when misnaming it led to a bit of confusion. An initial report had the boy disappearing from the beach (praia) whereas the Express version is quite different.
But all's well that ends well. 8((()*/
The Ponta Negra confused me as it's in Brazil. Isn't it the Rocha Negra in PdL?
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When you know that Cristovao, charged with multiple crimes, is out & about in the community, the above case makes the Portuguese justice system even more of a laughing stock. The McCanns were right to employ lawyers immediately.
I was just thinking that myself and the fact that certain PJ officers found guilty of criminal acts never spent a single minute in jail. It appears that even today, people are dealt with by the Portuguese justice system according to their status and not in terms of their alleged crime.
The manner in which this Welsh girl has been treated is Portugal's shame.
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I suppose much depends upon the actual crime. Portugal might have a very lenient policy regarding prison sentencing compared with some other countries.
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I suppose much depends upon the actual crime. Portugal might have a very lenient policy regarding prison sentencing compared with some other countries.
Especially for PJ Officers. But hardly for The Ciprianos.
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I suppose much depends upon the actual crime. Portugal might have a very lenient policy regarding prison sentencing compared with some other countries.
Without knowing all the circumstances, this superficially may be the case.
Two years for illegally disposing of a dead body sounds incredibly light to me.
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Without knowing all the circumstances, this superficially may be the case.
Two years for illegally disposing of a dead body sounds incredibly light to me.
Is it a common practice in Portugal to dispose of a dead body?
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Is it a common practice in Portugal to dispose of a dead body?
Try the Lisbon case.
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Try the Lisbon case.
Can you be a bit more specific?
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Can you be a bit more specific?
3 'bodies in rubbish bins' stories.
Madeleine McCann - not found.
8 month old child in Lisbon rubbish centre - body found. Mother got 7 years and 10 months. I don't know all the details because it's a pay-site.
Soldier in the UK tracked to a rubbish dump via his mobile. Body not found.
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3 'bodies in rubbish bins' stories.
Madeleine McCann - not found.
8 month old child in Lisbon rubbish centre - body found. Mother got 7 years and 10 months. I don't know all the details because it's a pay-site.
Soldier in the UK tracked to a rubbish dump via his mobile. Body not found.
I think this is the sort of story to be highlighted, not those where foul play is involved.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4244502/UK-woman-faces-trial-burial-husband-Portugal.html
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Video interview of German couple who found the missing 7 year old in Luz.
The lad was crying & screaming....broad daylight......so if Madeleine woke & wandered why did no-one hear her in the dark?
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Video interview of German couple who found the missing 7 year old in Luz.
The lad was crying & screaming....broad daylight......so if Madeleine woke & wandered why did no-one hear her in the dark?
You make a big assumption there. Not every child cries and screams when looking for their parents.
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I think this is the sort of story to be highlighted, not those where foul play is involved.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4244502/UK-woman-faces-trial-burial-husband-Portugal.html
Typical overreaction by the Portuguese authorities, this woman is to be pitied and not punished. Typical daughter too sticking her ore in after the man had died of cancer. Why has it taken her eight months to suddenly be concerned?
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Typical overreaction by the Portuguese authorities, this woman is to be pitied and not punished. Typical daughter too sticking her ore in after the man had died of cancer. Why has it taken her eight months to suddenly be concerned?
I'm sure she was aware that she couldn't just bury someone wherever she liked.
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You make a big assumption there. Not every child cries and screams when looking for their parents.
So Mrs Fenn was mistaken then.............
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So Mrs Fenn was mistaken then.............
So she was looking for her parents on the Tuesday/Wednesday as well?
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So Mrs Fenn was mistaken then.............
A good point but you cannot assume that her actions outside would have been the same as those inside given the different stimuli.
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Video interview of German couple who found the missing 7 year old in Luz.
The lad was crying & screaming....broad daylight......so if Madeleine woke & wandered why did no-one hear her in the dark?
In the still of the night had Madeleine been distressed enough to cry out I'm sure someone would have heard her.
I'm intrigued as to why the couple didn't phone the police with the boy's information rather than taking him to them in Faro?
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In the still of the night had Madeleine been distressed enough to cry out I'm sure someone would have heard her.
I'm intrigued as to why the couple didn't phone the police with the boy's information rather than taking him to them in Faro?
They only took him down the road to the PSP post in Lagos. Faro is much further away. One would have thought that in the middle of the day in summer that a busy resort like Praia da Luz would have had a police presence somewhere locally?
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They only took him down the road to the PSP post in Lagos. Faro is much further away. One would have thought that in the middle of the day in summer that a busy resort like Praia da Luz would have had a police presence somewhere locally?
Lagos it is, Angelo.
Even if there was no police presence ... a phone call would have got the police there within minutes. Surely while one was calming him down the other could have made the call. It would have saved time all round.
Just shows that people don't always react as one would expect in any given situation.
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Tomás Revez, aged 4, died in the early hours of Wed, 2 Aug 2017, after falling from a balcony in Tavira, Algarve, late on Tuesday night.
The boy was with his grandma in her home while the father worked in a café he owned nearby. The parents had split up and the mother lives in Olhão.
Grandma went to make some toast for the boy. While she was doing that the child decided to go upstairs to play with their dog on the veranda. He overbalanced and fell a total of about 6 metres.
Emergency services were quickly on the scene and the boy was still alive. He was rushed to Faro hospital, but soon succumbed to his injuries.
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/crianca-de-4-anos-cai-de-terraco-e-morre?ref=HP_Grupo1 has more + photos of the boy and the block.
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"The 15% drop in the value of the pound after London (sic) decided to leave the European Union is alienating the British from the Algarve. In July alone, hotels registered 56 thousand less English tourists than a year earlier."
More at http://www.dn.pt/dinheiro/interior/brexit-tira-56-mil-ingleses-do-algarve-mas-ha-mais-turistas-alemaes-8702578.html
Portuguese down, French down, Germans up. Perhaps I should be learning the 'courtesy' words in German. 8(0(*
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http://portugalresident.com/tears-of-joy-as-algarve-british-pro-consul-awarded-mbe
It was with tears of joy that Angela Morado, British Pro Consul at the British Vice Consulate in Portimão, received her Honorary MBE this week in recognition of her “significant contribution to relations between the United Kingdom and Portugal”.
The ceremony was held on Tuesday (August 29) at the Tivoli Marina Hotel.
The distinction was awarded by Her Majesty The Queen and presented to Morado by British Ambassador to Portugal Kirsty Hayes.
“I’m so honoured. I’m completely over the moon,” Morado told a crowd of friends, family and other British dignitaries including the British Vice Consul in Portimão, Clive Jewell, the president of foreign residents’ association afpop, Michael Reeve, and the president of Safe Communities Portugal, David Thomas.
After nearly 30 years of working at the consulate, Morado said she is still surprised that she gets paid to “help people that really need help”.
“The FCO is a great organisation to work for, and my colleagues are always there to support me,” the 49-year-old said, adding: “I couldn’t see myself doing anything else.”
Ambassador Kirsty Hayes had some words of praise for Morado, who is also known in the Algarve for her work and dedication as an animal rescue volunteer. Hayes described her as a “person that is as wonderful on the inside as she is on the outside”.
“Angie has handled many important consular cases, always treating each person as an individual,” she said, adding how often Morado is “praised for her work”.
“She has a seemingly endless supply of empathy, and spends a lot of time helping many animal charities in Portimão,” the Ambassador added.
Angela Morado was born in South Africa but has worked at the British Vice Consulate in Portimão for nearly 30 years.
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One doctor and three delegates of medical information held for corruption and mockery of the NHS
07 SEPTEMBER 2017
PJ's operation took place in the Greater Lisbon and Algarve areas. Detained are three men and one woman
The PJ detained a doctor and three delegates of medical information for corruption, falsification of document and qualified derision to the National Health Service (SNS), and the operation took place in the areas of Greater Lisbon and Algarve, police said Thursday.
The detainees, three men and one woman, aged 57, 50, 42 and 38, will undergo a first judicial interrogation to apply coercive measures.
According to PJ, detainees passed medication prescriptions in violation of applicable legislation, through the acceptance of patrimonial advantages. They aimed at the misappropriation of the reimbursement of medicines, at the expense of the NHS, by several thousand euros.
The "Operation Paperless Revenue" involved several searches and one of the detainees had in their possession a prohibited weapon.
The investigation was carried out by the National Anti-Corruption Unit of the PJ.
http://www.dn.pt/sociedade/interior/um-medico-e-tres-delegados-de-informacao-medica-detidos-pela-pj-por-corrupcao-e-burla-8754073.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
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For the geographically challenged it's the white bit.
(https://www.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/algarve-map.gif)
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Please note that this thread relates to news and CURRENT affairs from the Portuguese ALGARVE. The operative words being current and Algarve. TY
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There is a yellow weather alert out for the Algarve because of thunder and lightning incoming from the west.
The leading edge of the bad weather is predicted to arrive around 6 PM today. NB It looks like central Portugal has already had heavy rain for some time, but it is dry here, there is no wind, and there is still some sunshine.
The graphic attached needs little explanation. Hoje = today. Amanhã = tomorrow. The graphic is for 9 PM today, when the storm should have reached Lagos and places further east. It should clear up again by 12 noon tomorrow.
I have a grandson who makes pocket money by walking dogs in the early morning for a local kennel. He does not have any wet weather gear, so if it is still stormy around 9 AM, either the dog-walking is off or he's going to get wet.
This is the first storm of the season. The year has been abnormally hot and dry, hence the forest fires to the north of Lisbon, and many a reservoir is running on empty. Winter is normally the rainy season, so farmers and the water companies will be quite pleased if we get a string of these storms.
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The rain, thunder and lightning arrived around 3:30 PM.
There are hills in the background. It's just that you can't see them.
The electricity has gone off, again. The house is 100% electricity - no gas - so everything is off. I am working from PC battery power only. With around 9 hours to go before the storm ends, I do not hold out much hope.
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The rain, thunder and lightning arrived around 3:30 PM.
There are hills in the background. It's just that you can't see them.
The electricity has gone off, again. The house is 100% electricity - no gas - so everything is off. I am working from PC battery power only. With around 9 hours to go before the storm ends, I do not hold out much hope.
No need to envy you your weather today then. ?{)(**
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Tempest Ana is currently 'ravaging' Portugal from roughly Lisbon to further up north.
When I say 'ravaging' it is of course relative. The temperatures here are around 13C to 16C overnight, and it was actually quite a pleasant day today.
AFAIK, the issue is lots of rain and high winds in the north. There are no thunderstorms predicted, although trees are already being blown over, with 1 fatality reported.
On the Algarve, it is currently very gentle rain, very light wind and warm enough. That's just as well, because at exactly 3 minutes past midnight, our electricity went off yet again.
I have battery power on my PC and on my modem thingy, so my Internet is working. Plus I have a solar-powered light and a couple of torches.
My BBQ is protected from the rain, so technically, I can make a cup of tea, albeit with extreme difficulty.
I can see I need to stock up with four candles, and something zippier to boil a brew.
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Tempest Ana is currently 'ravaging' Portugal from roughly Lisbon to further up north.
When I say 'ravaging' it is of course relative. The temperatures here are around 13C to 16C overnight, and it was actually quite a pleasant day today.
AFAIK, the issue is lots of rain and high winds in the north. There are no thunderstorms predicted, although trees are already being blown over, with 1 fatality reported.
On the Algarve, it is currently very gentle rain, very light wind and warm enough. That's just as well, because at exactly 3 minutes past midnight, our electricity went off yet again.
I have battery power on my PC and on my modem thingy, so my Internet is working. Plus I have a solar-powered light and a couple of torches.
My BBQ is protected from the rain, so technically, I can make a cup of tea, albeit with extreme difficulty.
I can see I need to stock up with four candles, and something zippier to boil a brew.
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https://youtu.be/gi_6SaqVQSw
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https://youtu.be/gi_6SaqVQSw
That made I larf.
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This is what those dastardly Algarvians get up to.
A cachalote (sperm whale) decided it wanted to get out of the sea to lie on the beach. The folks thought 'stranded', so they lifted it back into the water. AFAIK, the whale survived.
Then the helpers went on to get their New Year's Day dip in the Atlantic. Eeek. This was Monte Gordo near the border between the Algarve and Spain. It is currently much warmer here in the Algarve.
But the 1st of January and a dip in the Atlantic is a no-no! *&^^&
Here's a photo of the stranded sperm whale, as the Maritime Police and passers-by were getting it back into the sea.
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This is what those dastardly Algarvians get up to.
A cachalote (sperm whale) decided it wanted to get out of the sea to lie on the beach. The folks thought 'stranded', so they lifted it back into the water. AFAIK, the whale survived.
Then the helpers went on to get their New Year's Day dip in the Atlantic. Eeek. This was Monte Gordo near the border between the Algarve and Spain. It is currently much warmer here in the Algarve.
But the 1st of January and a dip in the Atlantic is a no-no! *&^^&
Here's a photo of the stranded sperm whale, as the Maritime Police and passers-by were getting it back into the sea.
I have every respect for the general Portuguese public ... and I have seen no reason for you to think that posters on here are any different to me. Maybe you are seeing imo deserved criticism of certain members of the PJ as criticism of the Portuguese population.
Well done, all those guys who helped the stranded whale. Hope it survived.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5243479/Epiphany-celebrations-Portugal-children-smoke.html
perhaps so they can enjoy a night out with their parents
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5243479/Epiphany-celebrations-Portugal-children-smoke.html
perhaps so they can enjoy a night out with their parents
Very interesting but not the Algarve.
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Very interesting but not the Algarve.
But Portugal. Portuagal is inclusive of the Algarve.
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But Portugal. Portuagal is inclusive of the Algarve.
News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
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80m dredger overturns near Olhão, injuring 4.
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/quatro-trabalhadores-feridos-na-barra-da-armona-em-olhao?ref=HP_Grupo1
Olhão is the largest port for fishing on the Algarve. It is located a short distance to the east of Faro.
The islands off Olhão are normally considered to be part of the Rio Formosa natural park, which is why one hears tales of allegedly illegal buildings that are ordered to be demolished.
There are ferries which run regular services to two such islands, Armona being one of them. One can get the early ferry to Armona, have a stroll around, eat lunch in the local restaurant, then get back to catch a ferry for the return trip to Olhão.
There are also water-taxis. These are more costly than the ferry, but they operate much like land taxis.
There are a lot of sandbars in and around this location, so dredging is necessary to keep the channels deep enough for the ferries.
You can see locals going out at low tide to dig up shellfish from the sandbanks. Olhão has a collection of small beach huts that look like the things you might see at seaside towns in the UK. Here, it it is where these shell-fishermen keep the tackle they need to collect the molluscs. Then as the tide comes back in, the men head back in to Olhão, carrying a pail with their catch of the day.
Olhão has quite a large fish market on the front, plus 2 or 3 places where you can buy whatever has just come out of the sea. One of our favourites is ameijoas (clams). I am working on recreating the clam recipe we fell in love with when we first visited Olhão, but I have not managed it yet.
Of the 4 men rescued in the dredger incident, all had hypothermia and one has a spinal injury, but in relative terms, nothing serious.
The dredger had 12,000 litres of diesel oil on board, around 2,500 gallons, but this is not thought to be an environmental hazard. The owners of the vessel have been given 48 hours to rectify the situation.
Here's a photo from CdM.
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80m dredger overturns near Olhão, injuring 4.
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/quatro-trabalhadores-feridos-na-barra-da-armona-em-olhao?ref=HP_Grupo1
Olhão is the largest port for fishing on the Algarve. It is located a short distance to the east of Faro.
The islands off Olhão are normally considered to be part of the Rio Formosa natural park, which is why one hears tales of allegedly illegal buildings that are ordered to be demolished.
There are ferries which run regular services to two such islands, Armona being one of them. One can get the early ferry to Armona, have a stroll around, eat lunch in the local restaurant, then get back to catch a ferry for the return trip to Olhão.
There are also water-taxis. These are more costly than the ferry, but they operate much like land taxis.
There are a lot of sandbars in and around this location, so dredging is necessary to keep the channels deep enough for the ferries.
You can see locals going out at low tide to dig up shellfish from the sandbanks. Olhão has a collection of small beach huts that look like the things you might see at seaside towns in the UK. Here, it it is where these shell-fishermen keep the tackle they need to collect the molluscs. Then as the tide comes back in, the men head back in to Olhão, carrying a pail with their catch of the day.
Olhão has quite a large fish market on the front, plus 2 or 3 places where you can buy whatever has just come out of the sea. One of our favourites is ameijoas (clams). I am working on recreating the clam recipe we fell in love with when we first visited Olhão, but I have not managed it yet.
Of the 4 men rescued in the dredger incident, all had hypothermia and one has a spinal injury, but in relative terms, nothing serious.
The dredger had 12,000 litres of diesel oil on board, around 250 gallons, but this is not thought to be an environmental hazard. The owners of the vessel have been given 48 hours to rectify the situation.
Here's a photo from CdM.
Olhão and the major islands off the coast there are also major ports in the narcotics trafficking into Portugal. I highlighted this about 4 years ago with supporting information, which has now been whooshed from the internet
This article from 2012 supports the fact that Olhao was a major drug smuggling port.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182734/Briton-wanted-smuggling-323million-drugs-
Amaral was very well positioned in his drug policing duties, cos he lived only about 4 miles away from Olhão in Quelfes.
The sea near there is more a big mud bank with inlets of water. I should think that navigating there is a nightmare cos the inletes must widen and narrow with the tides, and new mud banks keep shifting with the tides too. The area is quite a sight, especially when flying into Faro and looking down.
Any bird lovers reading would really enjoy a stay at The Faro Hotel because from the highest floors one can see right into several untidy storks nests with the eggs ... and chicks and fledglings being fed by busy parents ... and they are really close.
A birds eye view.
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Various bits and pieces. I will get the links if anyone is really that desperate.
78 year old killed in a head on collision on the 'ring route' around Lagos. Someone was going down a one-way lane in the wrong direction, not sure which driver that was. One vehicle was flipped onto it's roof. The other one was a Fiat, crushed beyond recognition. The bombeiros arrived and one of them recognised that the dead driver was his father.
There is an automatic 50kph speed limit in towns. People go faster on the ring route, but not by much. I have no idea why the 2 drivers did not simply brake.
Separately, there have been two further accidents on the EN125 in the last week. In both instances a motor-cyclist was killed. I don't have the details of either.
Yesterday, there was a protest procession of a couple of dozen vehicles, on the EN125, from Portimão to Lagos, accompanied by a GNR escort. The protesters had their cars emblazoned and brought placards asking when something would be done about the Estrada of Death - the EN125.
There was also a protest on the A22, against the toll charges that were introduced a few years back (post Madeleine era).
To round off this doom and gloom, there was an earthquake yesterday on the Algarve at Monchique. At 3.3 on the Richter Scale, it was tiny compared to the recent one outside of Lisbon. But for those who know their Madeleine McCann background, they will know that Monchique was a volcano which at some time spewed out enough magma for it to reach the sea at Luz and form Black Rock.
So it is not always paradise on the Algarve. Mind you, it is currently warm and shining in Portelas.
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"Frantic search for 79-year-old British man missing from Silves home since Friday morning"
"With bitterly cold temperatures biting, the search for missing 79-year-old British man John Bainbridge - now in its fourth day - has been stepped up markedly.
Police have been drafted in from Monchique and Portimão to boost the local Silves force, while sniffer dogs from Lisbon and agents attached to the GNR's special rescue force, GIPS, are now in place on the ground."
Full story, in English, with photo at http://portugalresident.com/frantic-search-for-79-year-old-british-man-missing-from-silves-home-since-friday-morning
The weather in Silves is reported to be partly cloudy and 19C, but it drops into single figures overnight.
This is an example of a missing person response by Portuguese authorities. Natasha Donn does not say if the photo in the article has been published locally.
We get news alerts from the Portugal Resident on a mobile phone. I have no idea what system, if any, was in place in 2007.
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Maritime Authority warns of caravel-Portuguese dangers
Algarve
MARCH 11, 2018
12:22
DN / Lusa
(https://static.globalnoticias.pt/dn/image.aspx?brand=DN&type=generate&guid=73bc5628-6410-4f66-b382-290e53326531&w=579&t=20180311122400)
The National Maritime Authority warned the population today to avoid contact with the Portuguese caravels that since Saturday have appeared on the coast of Algarve, with more incidence on the beaches between Monte Gordo and Manta Rota.
"In case of being sighted, contact with this organism by the scientific name 'Physalia physalis' and living on the surface of the sea should be avoided thanks to its cylindrical, blue-purplish, gas-filled float whose tentacles can reach 30 meters, its poison being very dangerous, "the AMN said in a statement.
That aquatic species similar to jellyfish appeared on the beaches of the Algarve's leeward, on Saturday, with greater expression between Monte Gordo and Manta Rota, in the municipality of Vila Real de Santo António, in the district of Faro.
"In these cases they should be sent immediately to the emergency department of health units," said the AMN in the document.
The bite effects of these marine organisms result in "strong pain, burning sensation, irritation, redness, swelling and itching".
Care
AMN adds that if there is contact with the Portuguese caravel, people should avoid rubbing the affected area, do not use fresh water, alcohol or ammonia, wash with saline, remove the tentacles (if they have been clinging to the skin) using gloves or a plastic tweezers and applying vinegar, bandages or hot water, to relieve pain, and consult medical assistance as soon as possible.
https://www.dn.pt/portugal/interior/autoridade-maritima-alerta-para-perigos-de-caravela-portuguesa-em-praias-do-algarve-9178136.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
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Maritime Authority warns of caravel-Portuguese dangers
Algarve
MARCH 11, 2018
12:22
DN / Lusa
(https://static.globalnoticias.pt/dn/image.aspx?brand=DN&type=generate&guid=73bc5628-6410-4f66-b382-290e53326531&w=579&t=20180311122400)
The National Maritime Authority warned the population today to avoid contact with the Portuguese caravels that since Saturday have appeared on the coast of Algarve, with more incidence on the beaches between Monte Gordo and Manta Rota.
"In case of being sighted, contact with this organism by the scientific name 'Physalia physalis' and living on the surface of the sea should be avoided thanks to its cylindrical, blue-purplish, gas-filled float whose tentacles can reach 30 meters, its poison being very dangerous, "the AMN said in a statement.
That aquatic species similar to jellyfish appeared on the beaches of the Algarve's leeward, on Saturday, with greater expression between Monte Gordo and Manta Rota, in the municipality of Vila Real de Santo António, in the district of Faro.
"In these cases they should be sent immediately to the emergency department of health units," said the AMN in the document.
The bite effects of these marine organisms result in "strong pain, burning sensation, irritation, redness, swelling and itching".
Care
AMN adds that if there is contact with the Portuguese caravel, people should avoid rubbing the affected area, do not use fresh water, alcohol or ammonia, wash with saline, remove the tentacles (if they have been clinging to the skin) using gloves or a plastic tweezers and applying vinegar, bandages or hot water, to relieve pain, and consult medical assistance as soon as possible.
https://www.dn.pt/portugal/interior/autoridade-maritima-alerta-para-perigos-de-caravela-portuguesa-em-praias-do-algarve-9178136.html?utm_source=Push&utm_medium=Web
Portuguese Man O War
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It seems the tourist season is underway on the Algarve.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/crianca-ferida-retirada-a-mae-alcoolizada?ref=HP_Grupo1
A seven-year-old child beaten up by an alcoholic mother inside a hotel in Albufeira was placed in an institution. The English woman was on vacation in the Algarve with her daughter and was identified by the GNR for evidence of the crime of domestic violence.
The case happened on Saturday night at 10:40 pm at the Hotel Mónica Isabel in Albufeira.
According to CM , the British woman, 45, violently assaulted her daughter in the head and neck. The assailant was drunk and only stopped the aggressions after the intervention of customers of the hotel unit. The child suffered bruises and bruises on the trunk and was transported by the firemen to the paediatric service of the Faro Hospital, accompanied by the GNR. The mother took a taxi and tried to invade the health unit, forcing the PSP call. The child was then transferred to a child care institution.
DETAILS
Child seen alone
The victim and the aggressor were both vacationing in Portugal. The child, which CM found out, was often seen alone, both in the hotel and on the street or on the beach, while her mother was drinking alcohol.
Victim underwent tests
The minor was initially hospitalized at Faro Hospital, where she underwent several examinations. She was then transferred to an institution for minors. A social worker was accompanying the child and the British consulate was alerted and also following up on the case.
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This type of story is likely to feature frequently over the coming months as tourists seek sun and alcohol. It shows one facet of what the GNR, bombeiros, PSP and social care have to deal with.
It will be interesting to see how this story is reported in British media if it hits the press on the mother's return.
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It seems the tourist season is underway on the Algarve.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/crianca-ferida-retirada-a-mae-alcoolizada?ref=HP_Grupo1
A seven-year-old child beaten up by an alcoholic mother inside a hotel in Albufeira was placed in an institution. The English woman was on vacation in the Algarve with her daughter and was identified by the GNR for evidence of the crime of domestic violence.
The case happened on Saturday night at 10:40 pm at the Hotel Mónica Isabel in Albufeira.
According to CM , the British woman, 45, violently assaulted her daughter in the head and neck. The assailant was drunk and only stopped the aggressions after the intervention of customers of the hotel unit. The child suffered bruises and bruises on the trunk and was transported by the firemen to the paediatric service of the Faro Hospital, accompanied by the GNR. The mother took a taxi and tried to invade the health unit, forcing the PSP call. The child was then transferred to a child care institution.
DETAILS
Child seen alone
The victim and the aggressor were both vacationing in Portugal. The child, which CM found out, was often seen alone, both in the hotel and on the street or on the beach, while her mother was drinking alcohol.
Victim underwent tests
The minor was initially hospitalized at Faro Hospital, where she underwent several examinations. She was then transferred to an institution for minors. A social worker was accompanying the child and the British consulate was alerted and also following up on the case.
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This type of story is likely to feature frequently over the coming months as tourists seek sun and alcohol. It shows one facet of what the GNR, bombeiros, PSP and social care have to deal with.
It will be interesting to see how this story is reported in British media if it hits the press on the mother's return.
Probably the right of the child to anonymity might indicate that this incidence of child abuse won't make headlines in the press.
However one sincerely hopes the authorities in Portugal and Britain liaise to ensure that future outcomes for the little girl will be more positive than those to which she has been subjected ... and I think that without doubt will happen.
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A social worker was accompanying the child and the British consulate was alerted and also following up on the case.
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This should actually be in a general news thread, but I cannot find that.
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Evaristo Felgueiras, a tutor of mathematics and professor of karate, was convicted yesterday in the Viana do Castelo court to five years suspended for abusing 11 minors between the ages of 12 and 16. The defendant, 41, was charged with 82 counts of child sexual abuse and six counts of teen sex offenses. The events occurred between 2015 and 2017. One of the judges of the collective voted against the suspension.
Read more in: http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/explicador-que-abusou-de-11-menores-tem-pena-suspensa?ref=HP_Grupo1
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I am posting this to provide confirmation that sentences up to 5 years can be, and are, suspended.
The maximum penalty for body occultation (illegally dealing with a dead body) is two years.
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http://portugalresident.com/window-plunge-toddler-dies-of-injuries-in-faro-hospital
An 18 month old child of British parents died on Sunday after falling from a window of a second floor apartment in Lagos.
He fell on Saturday morning, allegedly when his mother was asleep. It appears nothing was left under the window to climb on, and it has not been established if the window was open, or if the boy opened it himself.
Portugal celebrates Mother's Day on a different date to the UK, and Sunday was Mother's Day here.
We first found out about this death when the Colégio São Gonçalo in Luz sent out a text bulletin. The boy who died attended Colégio São Gonçalo. My two grandchildren attend this school, with the younger only some months older that the boy who died. They attend this young because the staff talk to the children only in Portuguese, so my 7 year old grandson knows more about the Portuguese language than the rest of us put together.
The school had intended celebrating Mother's Day today, but the planned activities were cancelled when the news of the death came through.
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https://portugalresident.com/16-year-old-boy-falls-to-death-from-praia-da-luz-clifftop
Posted by portugalpress on May 30, 2018
A 16-year-old boy, believed to be Portuguese, fell 100 metres to his death yesterday evening from the cliffs over Rocha Negra - the signature black rock jutting out into the sea on the east side of Praia da Luz beach.
What led the boy to fall is now the subject of a police investigation.
Crime is not suspected.
The youngster was on the cliffs with a female friend who raised the alert at 7pm.
Due to access complications, emergency rescue in the form of maritime police, INEM, ISN (sea rescue) and local firefighters could only reach the body much later.
The recovery operation, coordinated by Lagos ports authority, was completed by 10pm with the use of Ferragudo’s ISN lifeboat.
The dead boy’s young companion has been questioned by authorities as she alone appears to have witnessed the tragedy.
For now, the victim’s identity has not be revealed.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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http://portugalresident.com/lagoa-bank-manager-and-police-inspector-husband-accused-of-%E2%80%98siphoning-off%E2%80%99-over-%E2%82%AC300000-from-us
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on June 04, 2018
A Lagoa bank manager, aged 45, has been accused - along with her PJ inspector husband - of siphoning off over €300,000 from the account of north American clients.
According to the Public Ministry, the couple - facing trial in Portimão - acquired a BMW with some of the money (over €60,000) to ‘launder’ part of the plundered funds.
The money was first transferred to the bank account of a relative in Setúbal, writes Correio da Manhã tabloid, and then “passed” to the account of the two defendants, “at a third bank”.
The woman bank manager, who has since been “fired from her job”, is also accused of having taken “a few more thousand euros from the Americans with the use of a multibanco card which she managed to obtain”.
The woman is facing various charges, money-laundering being one of them, along with abuse of confidence, falsification of a document (in a continued way), IT fraud and falsification.
Her husband, described as an inspector of the PJ aged 48, is accused of money-laundering, the paper adds.
The case refers to incidents during the years 2010-2015. Says CM, the Public Ministry has described it as “an absolute priority”.
Meantime, the paper stresses that there has been “no restitution” of any of the money allegedly falsely appropriated, although the BMW purchased by the defendants has been seized as a result of the proceedings,” as well as five properties acquired during the period investigated”.
The Lagoa bank where the woman used to work has reportedly presented an official complaint.
The trial continues.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/australian-couple-on-holiday-in-portugal-die-after-falling-off-a-cliff-while taking-a-selfie/ar-AAyyYi9?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP I just hope this doesn't turn out to be a double homicide.
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https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/australian-couple-on-holiday-in-portugal-die-after-falling-off-a-cliff-while taking-a-selfie/ar-AAyyYi9?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=UP97DHP I just hope this doesn't turn out to be a double homicide.
Ericeira is a fishing village north of Lisbon, so this has nothing to do with the Algarve.
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Ericeira is a fishing village north of Lisbon, so this has nothing to do with the Algarve.
Well let's hope not.
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There is to be a spectacular blood moon on Friday 27th, around 7.50pm in my neck of the woods on the Algarve.
A blood moon is a total eclipse of the moon by the Earth, with the Sun filtering through our atmosphere to provide the blood colour.
As far as I can tell, all active members of this forum can choose to watch it.
This will be the longest total eclipse (blood moon) until 2100.
The moon will rise in the East, as it always does.
Check your local sources for times applicable to your neck of the woods - it depends on where you are.
ETA If you are north of London, the Moon will not rise above your horizon, so this blood moon is off the menu.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/alerta-cm--menina-de-cinco-anos-morre-afogada-em-piscina-no-algarve?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral
A 5 year old British boy has died in a swimming pool in a tourist complex in Silves, Algarve. He had been playing with his siblings. His body was retrieved from the bottom of the pool He was found by his parents.
A medical team from INEM attended, and attempted to resuscitate the boy, to no avail.
The GNR responded. The incident is being treated as unsuspicious.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/alerta-cm--menina-de-cinco-anos-morre-afogada-em-piscina-no-algarve?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral
A 5 year old British boy has died in a swimming pool in a tourist complex in Silves, Algarve. He had been playing with his siblings. His body was retrieved from the bottom of the pool He was found by his parents.
A medical team from INEM attended, and attempted to resuscitate the boy, to no avail.
The GNR responded. The incident is being treated as unsuspicious.
A terrible thing to happen but yet again down to poor parenting.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/alerta-cm--acidente-na-en125-faz-um-morto-e-oito-feridos-em-lagoa-no-algarve?ref=HP_Destaque
A 3 car collision on the EN125 near Lagoa this morning has left 1 dead, and 9 injured, 2 of whom are in a serious condition. NB Lagoa is not Lagos.
I have omitted photos for certain squeamish members who are offended by smashed cars.
The link has photos of the 3 cars for those made of sterner stuff, and you might like to try to puzzle out what was going on.
The weather was perfect. Road visibility where the crash occurred was perfect. The photos show it to be a high-quality stretch of the EN125.
The 3 cars all appear to have been in a high speed, front on collision.
The normal average for the EN125 is about 80kph i.e. 50mph, though some like to risk higher speeds to overtake.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/chamas-consomem-serra-de-monchique?ref=HP_Grupo1
The fires have started. This one is in an area known as Black Rock - nothing to do with Madeleine - in the mountains above Monchique, which is not too far away from us here on the Algarve.
The weather has been baking hot for the last 2 days, accompanied by fairly strong winds.
Black Rock itself is empty of people and property. However, nearby villages were put on standby to be ready to evacuate.
For the fire, there were 11 air teams, 190 vehicles, hundreds and hundreds of bombeiros and 6 platoons from the army. The bombeiros were resourced from far and wide, not just the stations at Lagos and Monchique.
The Algarve does have fire warnings out. But those are toward the east side towards Spain, near Tavira, rather than near Lagos. It is also the case that the Alentejo, the region to the north, is expected to hit higher temperatures.
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Oh I hope everyone is safe over there. These fires can spread very fast.
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Oh I hope everyone is safe over there. These fires can spread very fast.
The world is in a dreadful mess what with droughts, wild fires and floods. All down to mankind and global warming.
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All terribly gripping I'm sure ... but is any of it even remotely on topic?
Just a reminder ... News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve
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All terribly gripping I'm sure ... but is any of it even remotely on topic?
Just a reminder ... News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve
Sorry
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Sorry
Let you off this once, Robitty, as you know I never well only now and again, wander off topic.
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Today, for the first time since the Monchique fire started on Fri 3 Aug we have perfect azure skies over our home, rather than a large smoke cloud.
News is coming in that the 106 people who were evacuated from villages around Silves yesterday afternoon were returned home, starting this morning.
It looks like the beginning of the end for the Monchique 2018 conflagration, with just a single person injured seriously.
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Today, for the first time since the Monchique fire started on Fri 3 Aug we have perfect azure skies over our home, rather than a large smoke cloud.
News is coming in that the 106 people who were evacuated from villages around Silves yesterday afternoon were returned home, starting this morning.
It looks like the beginning of the end for the Monchique 2018 conflagration, with just a single person injured seriously.
I was reading about it earlier; well, I was reading about the GIT who were sent in to help but given no accommodation. They were sleeping outside with no sleeping bags even. It was looking quite serious there for a while.
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This is about an alleged attempt in the centre of Lagos of a six-year-old girl about a month ago.
http://portugalresident.com/mystery-woman-takes-six-year-old-in-broad-daylight-in-lagos
Make of it what you will.
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This is about an alleged attempt in the centre of Lagos of a six-year-old girl about a month ago.
http://portugalresident.com/mystery-woman-takes-six-year-old-in-broad-daylight-in-lagos
Make of it what you will.
It's very sad, if true, that the PJ have done nothing to find the woman responsible but I guess maybe they are hindered by not being able to make the CCTV images public?
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This is about an alleged attempt in the centre of Lagos of a six-year-old girl about a month ago.
http://portugalresident.com/mystery-woman-takes-six-year-old-in-broad-daylight-in-lagos
Make of it what you will.
Would that make you think again about Carolina Santos?
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This is about an alleged attempt in the centre of Lagos of a six-year-old girl about a month ago.
http://portugalresident.com/mystery-woman-takes-six-year-old-in-broad-daylight-in-lagos
Make of it what you will.
What a shocking story of Portuguese police complacency and failure to act - at all, in this case.
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It's very sad, if true, that the PJ have done nothing to find the woman responsible but I guess maybe they are hindered by not being able to make the CCTV images public?
One wonders from this report if they even bothered to look at them.
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http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/seguranca-morre-no-hospital-de-portimao?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral
A 40 year old man has died in Portimão hospital, a week after being involved in a traffic accident.
The accident took place in the car park of the Autodromo do Algarve. The man was on a scooter, while the other vehicle was a car. In the accident, the man suffered serious head injuries, and eventually died of them.
The Autodromo was hosting a round of World Motorbike racing.
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Tancos is one of the oldest military bases in Portugal. In July 2017, it was broken into, and a large quantity of military weapons, including assault rifles and grenades, was stolen.
137 days later, a large portion of the material was retrieved in Chamusca, which is not too far from Tancos.
Tancos and Chamusca are well to the north of Lisbon, nowhere near the Algarve. So there was nothing to report then, but that has now changed.
The Chamusca recovery operation was based on an anonymous tip-off, using a supposedly untraceable phone.
The investigation was due to be closed down after this, but various police elements became suspicious. Eventually, the phone trail led to a GNR officer on the Algarve, who agreed to cooperate.
In addition to the PJ, there is a military PJ. Yesterday, the national head of the military PJ was arrested, on suspicion of being complicit with those who broke into Tancos. And the commander of Loulé GNR (on the Algarve) was also arrested, along with 5 GNR officers from Loulé.
Alarm bells should have rung earlier. For some reason Loulé GNR officers were involved in the recovery at Chamusca, which is nowhere near the Algarve.
https://www.dn.pt/poder/interior/tancos-um-crime-uma-farsa-e-uma-investigacao-dificil--9908003.html
One simply could not make up a story like this.
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Tancos is one of the oldest military bases in Portugal. In July 2017, it was broken into, and a large quantity of military weapons, including assault rifles and grenades, was stolen.
137 days later, a large portion of the material was retrieved in Chamusca, which is not too far from Tancos.
Tancos and Chamusca are well to the north of Lisbon, nowhere near the Algarve. So there was nothing to report then, but that has now changed.
The Chamusca recovery operation was based on an anonymous tip-off, using a supposedly untraceable phone.
The investigation was due to be closed down after this, but various police elements became suspicious. Eventually, the phone trail led to a GNR officer on the Algarve, who agreed to cooperate.
In addition to the PJ, there is a military PJ. Yesterday, the national head of the military PJ was arrested, on suspicion of being complicit with those who broke into Tancos. And the commander of Loulé GNR (on the Algarve) was also arrested, along with 5 GNR officers from Loulé.
Alarm bells should have rung earlier. For some reason Loulé GNR officers were involved in the recovery at Chamusca, which is nowhere near the Algarve.
https://www.dn.pt/poder/interior/tancos-um-crime-uma-farsa-e-uma-investigacao-dificil--9908003.html
One simply could not make up a story like this.
Thanks for that, Shining. Really interesting, although I haven't worked out why yet. Was it a stool pigeon, do you think?
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Tancos is one of the oldest military bases in Portugal. In July 2017, it was broken into, and a large quantity of military weapons, including assault rifles and grenades, was stolen.
137 days later, a large portion of the material was retrieved in Chamusca, which is not too far from Tancos.
Tancos and Chamusca are well to the north of Lisbon, nowhere near the Algarve. So there was nothing to report then, but that has now changed.
The Chamusca recovery operation was based on an anonymous tip-off, using a supposedly untraceable phone.
The investigation was due to be closed down after this, but various police elements became suspicious. Eventually, the phone trail led to a GNR officer on the Algarve, who agreed to cooperate.
In addition to the PJ, there is a military PJ. Yesterday, the national head of the military PJ was arrested, on suspicion of being complicit with those who broke into Tancos. And the commander of Loulé GNR (on the Algarve) was also arrested, along with 5 GNR officers from Loulé.
Alarm bells should have rung earlier. For some reason Loulé GNR officers were involved in the recovery at Chamusca, which is nowhere near the Algarve.
https://www.dn.pt/poder/interior/tancos-um-crime-uma-farsa-e-uma-investigacao-dificil--9908003.html
One simply could not make up a story like this.
Police incompetence or corruption does not strike me as masively out of the ordinary in Portugal.
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Police incompetence or corruption does not strike me as masively out of the ordinary in Portugal.
A bit like the UK then.
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A bit like the UK then.
Hardly.
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A bit like the UK then.
Why always so defensive of Portugal at the expense of your own country? I take it you agree police corruption and incompetence is not massively out of the ordinary in Portugal (despite the fact that unlike in the UK allegedly there has never been a miscarriage of justice in that country, ever)?
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Why always so defensive of Portugal at the expense of your own country? I take it you agree police corruption and incompetence is not massively out of the ordinary in Portugal (despite the fact that unlike in the UK allegedly there has never been a miscarriage of justice in that country, ever)?
I was replying to yourself Portugal bashing Vertigo Swirl. Both Portugal and the UK have good and honest police forces in the main part but both also have corruption and incompetence as well.
Why did you feel the need to say that "Police incompetence or corruption does not strike me as masively out of the ordinary in Portugal"?
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I was replying to yourself Portugal bashing Vertigo Swirl. Both Portugal and the UK have good and honest police forces in the main part but both also have corruption and incompetence as well.
Why did you feel the need to say that "Police incompetence or corruption does not strike me as masively out of the ordinary in Portugal"?
Because it doesn't.
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http://portugalresident.com/rape-of-british-tourist-results-in-suspended-sentence
Jusice Portuguese style... What a disgraceful judgement
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http://portugalresident.com/rape-of-british-tourist-results-in-suspended-sentence
Jusice Portuguese style... What a disgraceful judgement
He’ll probably appeal the judgement, write a best-selling book about his ordeal at the hands of the vengeful Brit that caused him all the aggro and end up running for mayor.
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http://portugalresident.com/rape-of-british-tourist-results-in-suspended-sentence
Jusice Portuguese style... What a disgraceful judgement
Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.
Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.
Would that be a disgraceful judgement?
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Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.
Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.
Would that be a disgraceful judgement?
Yes it would have been, because the PJ had nothing on the Mccanns to judge against them
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Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.
Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.
Would that be a disgraceful judgement?
Do you support a suspended sentence for rape? And yes, two years suspended for hiding your child’s body would be far too lenient imo.
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Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.
Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.
Would that be a disgraceful judgement?
In my opinion if you are correct that sentences of less than five years are suspended the sentence for the heinous crimes perpetrated on the British girl merited that being taken into consideration when the sentence was being handed down.
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Don't shoot the messenger. *&^^&
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Here's another case which is even more at odds with judicial punishment than the rape case. What planet are these judges on?
http://portugalresident.com/pedophile-teacher-spared-jail-after-receiving-seven-and-a-half-year-sentence
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 11, 2018
Évora appeals court has this week decided to spare a swimming teacher from the seven-and-a-half year jail term for child sex abuse handed out in February.
Seventy-year-old Joaquim Patrício originally received a prison term of 12 years for five crimes against two girls, aged eight and nine, committed at a swimming pool in Vidigueira. But the ‘cumulative punishment’ rounded down to seven-and-a-half years.
Patrício put in for appeal - which meant he remained at liberty while the judgement went forwards.
Now that appeal court judges have reduced the original sentence - to five years suspended - Patrício will end up not going to jail at all.
Compensation payments set in the first trial still stand (Patrício was ordered to pay one victim 15,000 euros and the other 7,500 euros), as does the 10-year ban on exercising any kind of profession with children.
The judges’ explanation for reducing the sentence was that “in spite of the alarm that these kind of crimes cause”, Patrício “did not have any previous criminal convictions” and, as far as they could see, “the facts (of the case) were not of a very high level of illegality”, making the penalties conferred “excessive and too high”.
At the original trail, the judge heard how Patrício had “placed his hand within the bathing suit” of one of his victims, putting a finger inside the child’s vagina, “causing pain”.
A local report at the time said that the mother of one of the children had left the court in tears once the sentence was read out.
The same news sources remarks this week that in September another teacher accused of pedophilia was sent to jail for 18 years for 14 crimes of abuse, as well as various crimes of mistreatment of minors.
It is unclear whether that teacher too has taken his case to appeal.
But in Porto this week PJ police arrested a 44-year-old IT employee convicted in 2014 to 10 years behind bars for child sex abuse but who has also remained at liberty pending an appeal ever since.
The man was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of four further crimes against.
Inspectors “believe there could be many more victims throughout the country”, writes Correio da Manhã, describing a “quantity of pornographic images and videos of children” discovered on the man’s mobile phone and computer.
This time round, says the paper, the man has been held in preventive custody and will be assessed by psychologists “to see whether he suffers from a disturbance or sexual compulsion”.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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Here's another case which is even more at odds with judicial punishment than the rape case. What planet are these judges on?
http://portugalresident.com/pedophile-teacher-spared-jail-after-receiving-seven-and-a-half-year-sentence
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 11, 2018
Évora appeals court has this week decided to spare a swimming teacher from the seven-and-a-half year jail term for child sex abuse handed out in February.
Seventy-year-old Joaquim Patrício originally received a prison term of 12 years for five crimes against two girls, aged eight and nine, committed at a swimming pool in Vidigueira. But the ‘cumulative punishment’ rounded down to seven-and-a-half years.
Patrício put in for appeal - which meant he remained at liberty while the judgement went forwards.
Now that appeal court judges have reduced the original sentence - to five years suspended - Patrício will end up not going to jail at all.
Compensation payments set in the first trial still stand (Patrício was ordered to pay one victim 15,000 euros and the other 7,500 euros), as does the 10-year ban on exercising any kind of profession with children.
The judges’ explanation for reducing the sentence was that “in spite of the alarm that these kind of crimes cause”, Patrício “did not have any previous criminal convictions” and, as far as they could see, “the facts (of the case) were not of a very high level of illegality”, making the penalties conferred “excessive and too high”.
At the original trail, the judge heard how Patrício had “placed his hand within the bathing suit” of one of his victims, putting a finger inside the child’s vagina, “causing pain”.
A local report at the time said that the mother of one of the children had left the court in tears once the sentence was read out.
The same news sources remarks this week that in September another teacher accused of pedophilia was sent to jail for 18 years for 14 crimes of abuse, as well as various crimes of mistreatment of minors.
It is unclear whether that teacher too has taken his case to appeal.
But in Porto this week PJ police arrested a 44-year-old IT employee convicted in 2014 to 10 years behind bars for child sex abuse but who has also remained at liberty pending an appeal ever since.
The man was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of four further crimes against.
Inspectors “believe there could be many more victims throughout the country”, writes Correio da Manhã, describing a “quantity of pornographic images and videos of children” discovered on the man’s mobile phone and computer.
This time round, says the paper, the man has been held in preventive custody and will be assessed by psychologists “to see whether he suffers from a disturbance or sexual compulsion”.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
My reading of that is that he was enabled to commit four more offences against children while enjoying freedom until his appeal was heard.
If so it is my opinion that he is not the only one guilty of an offence ... the system which allowed it needs a critical review with public safety at the heart of it.
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My reading of that is that he was enabled to commit four more offences against children while enjoying freedom until his appeal was heard.
If so it is my opinion that he is not the only one guilty of an offence ... the system which allowed it needs a critical review with public safety at the heart of it.
I don't think Portugal is unique in its failures to deal appropriately with ex offenders. The latest grooming gang case in Huddersfield is yet another sorry indictment of the failures on our own doorstep.
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I don't think Portugal is unique in its failures to deal appropriately with ex offenders. The latest grooming gang case in Huddersfield is yet another sorry indictment of the failures on our own doorstep.
Unfortunately you have got it spot on Misty. There are far too any examples of the lack of value given to children and young people.
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I am reviewing everything that was posted yesterday following several complaints. Inappropriate posting of any sort will not be tolerated and especially so given the number of warnings that have a already been given. Sanctions and/or suspensions could well follow.
Members are free to make representation in defence of themselves or others.
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LEFT TO DIE Brit was stripped, stabbed and scalped in ‘ritual shaming’ over alleged affair with a married man by gypsies in Portugal
Leighanne Rumney, 22, was naked when she staggered into the road to flag down a car after the attack in a Portuguese forest
EXCLUSIVE
By Nick Parker and Gerard Couzens
31st January 2019
A BRITISH beauty was stabbed and had her hair hacked off in a "ritual shaming" by a gypsy gang who wrongly accused her of having an affair with a married man.
Pretty Leighanne Rumney, 22, was kidnapped by the man’s relatives, who stripped her and stabbed her repeatedly in the back before chopping off her long blonde hair.
She lost two litres of blood and needed emergency surgery after staggering naked into the road to flag down a passing car following the horror in a Portuguese forest.
Traumatised Leighanne, told The Sun yesterday she no longer takes showers because she is haunted by the feeling of warm blood pouring down her back.
Her two female attackers - said to be the man’s wife and mother - and a male getaway car driver face trial in Portugal next week.
The attractive Geordie was working as a waitress at The Hot Shot Bar in Albufeira on the Algarve when she caught the eye of a local Roma gypsy regular.
She spurned his advances but his family became convinced they were having an affair - and lured her into a trap to exact ritual revenge, the court will hear.
Leighanne told The Sun yesterday: “I noticed this man was taking an interest in me when I was working behind the bar but didn’t fancy him and never dated him.
“But his family seemed to think we were having an affair and wouldn’t listen to me when I tried to explain nothing was going on.
“I was very naive and made the mistake of getting into their car while trying to argue I was innocent then realised straight away I was in trouble.
“They drove me 45 minutes away from where I lived to a remote spot then opened and bag which I saw contained two knives and scissors.
“I was convinced they were going to kill me and was so scared I didn’t move or speak as the two women stripped me naked and started stabbing me in the back.
“They finally took the scissors and chopped off all my hair - it was some kind of a ritual to shame me - then left me with blood pouring from my wounds.”
Leighanne was fading fast and naked apart from her sandals but managed to crawl to a road and was saved by a passing driver.
NINE SCARS IN TOTAL
The vicious attack happened in May 2015 - but is only now coming to court next Wednesday in Albufeira amid concerns that the gang could intimidate police and witnesses.
Leighanne - who has since given birth to a baby boy after recovering from her ordeal back home in the North East of England - said: “I’ve been scarred for life - I’ve nine scars in total all over my back.
“I was covered in so much blood I thought I was dying and now have baths rather than showers because I get flashbacks of blood pouring down my body.
“The Portuguese police took statements and took pictures of my injuries at the time but I’ve heard nothing since and didn’t even know there was a court case next week.
“But I’m hoping these people finally get what they deserve for what they did to me.
“My physical scars have healed but the mental ones are still there - they should pay for what they did.”
Accused Rute Isabel Almeida, 40, and Eliana Carvalho, 24, have been charged with kidnap and assault alongside driver Tiago Soutenho, 22.
The trio - said by police and court officials to be from the local Roma gypsy community from Porches near Albufeira - are alleged to have attacked Leighanne near Alcantarilha.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8326415/brit-stabbed-scalped-ritual-shaming-gypsies/
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From today´s Correio da Manhã, via Googlish.
"Motorists who drove on the Via do Infante (A22) in the direction of Portimão - Faro, during the early hours of Sunday, did not win the shock when they realized that a car was running against the road. The alert for the situation was given by 02:51, via 112, when the car was detected to be the circular between Loulé and Albufeira. It ended up being detained, about 30 km later, near Lagoa. He was drunk. According to the CM, the 53-year-old offender was contacted by a source from the Faro Command of the GNR, and was eventually intercepted by the military of the Faro Transit detachment of the GNR. In spite of the many kilometers that circulated against, there is no record of any accident. Just scared of those who met him.
Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/bebedo-andou-30-km-em-contramao-na-a22?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral"
'running against the road' means he was heading along the A22 motorway on the wrong side, into oncoming traffic.
He was found to be drunk.
Trying to drive head on into traffic whilst drunk suggests a Brit, but the article does not answer this point.
Final clarification. Lagos and Lagoa are two entirely separate towns, many miles apart. This news report is about Lagoa.
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From today´s Correio da Manhã, via Googlish.
"Motorists who drove on the Via do Infante (A22) in the direction of Portimão - Faro, during the early hours of Sunday, did not win the shock when they realized that a car was running against the road. The alert for the situation was given by 02:51, via 112, when the car was detected to be the circular between Loulé and Albufeira. It ended up being detained, about 30 km later, near Lagoa. He was drunk. According to the CM, the 53-year-old offender was contacted by a source from the Faro Command of the GNR, and was eventually intercepted by the military of the Faro Transit detachment of the GNR. In spite of the many kilometers that circulated against, there is no record of any accident. Just scared of those who met him.
Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/bebedo-andou-30-km-em-contramao-na-a22?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral"
'running against the road' means he was heading along the A22 motorway on the wrong side, into oncoming traffic.
He was found to be drunk.
Trying to drive head on into traffic whilst drunk suggests a Brit, but the article does not answer this point.
Final clarification. Lagos and Lagoa are two entirely separate towns, many miles apart. This news report is about Lagoa.
What a racist comment.
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What a racist comment.
How many countries drive on the 'wrong' side of the road? How many of those visit the Algarve? I don't know about the Irish.
But it still suggests a Britto Thicko.
If it looks like a donkey, smells like a donkey, and brays like a donkey, then my money is on donkey.
&^^&*
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How many countries drive on the 'wrong' side of the road? How many of those visit the Algarve? I don't know about the Irish.
But it still suggests a Britto Thicko.
If it looks like a donkey, smells like a donkey, and brays like a donkey, then my money is on donkey.
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Similar perhaps to the Portuguese " thicko" lorry driver who killed an entire family of of six in Cheshire by breaking the law in using his mobile while driving?
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Similar perhaps to the Portuguese " thicko" lorry driver who killed an entire family of of six in Cheshire by breaking the law in using his mobile while driving?
If a lorry driver killed 6 whilst using his mobile phone, then I, personally, would label him as much more than a 'thicko'. I would put him inside, and throw away the key.
What is your point? *%87
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If a lorry driver killed 6 whilst using his mobile phone, then I, personally, would label him as much more than a 'thicko'. I would put him inside, and throw away the key.
What is your point? *%87
A Portuguese lorry driver and no "if " about it.
I'm not surprised that you choose to miss the point!!
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A Portuguese lorry driver and no "if " about it.
I'm not surprised that you choose to miss the point!!
I don't choose to miss the point.
According to VS, I am racist because I said that PROBABLY yes PROBABLY, the person driving the wrong way on the wrong carriageway of the A22 would be someone who normally drives on the left, whilst here we drive on the right.
Drunk driver on the wrong carriageway.
&%%6
How simple does it get?
I have no interest in your xenophobia. The report is clear. It does not refer to the nationality of the driver, as I said.
You have just done another Dunblane escalation.
Why? *%87
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I don't choose to miss the point.
According to VS, I am racist because I said that PROBABLY yes PROBABLY, the person driving the wrong way on the wrong carriageway of the A22 would be someone who normally drives on the left, whilst here we drive on the right.
Drunk driver on the wrong carriageway.
&%%6
How simple does it get?
I have no interest in your xenophobia. The report is clear. It does not refer to the nationality of the driver, as I said.
You have just done another Dunblane escalation.
Why? *%87
I do wonder if your "news" would have been deemed worthy of posting if it wasn't for the fact that the "drunk" was most likely a "Britto Thicko"??
I doubt it!!
And you accuse me of xenophobia
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I do wonder if your "news" would have been deemed worthy of posting if it wasn't for the fact that the "drunk" was most likely a "Britto Thicko"??
I doubt it!!
And you accuse me of xenophobia
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News and current affairs from the Algarve.
Would you prefer that I stop posting them?
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News and current affairs from the Algarve.
Would you prefer that I stop posting them?
Not at all.
You obviously feel that it is a worthwhile exercise.
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How many countries drive on the 'wrong' side of the road? How many of those visit the Algarve? I don't know about the Irish.
But it still suggests a Britto Thicko.
If it looks like a donkey, smells like a donkey, and brays like a donkey, then my money is on donkey.
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Oh Dear. I don't know if you know that I often support my country of choice, and so I understand why you do. But there has to be a bit of common sense.
I sometimes still go to the wrong door of my car, but I never actually get into it, or drive on the wrong side of the road.
As an expat in France I am pleased that you love Portugal. It is always a whole new ball game. And people like you and me aren't hide bound.
I visited the Algarve three times during the Two Glorious Revolutions. There were Two you know, during which the real horror stories reinvented themselves, and sadly are still of some importance.
The oldest of The judiciary are corrupt. And still adhere to The Salazar Regime. Nothing will be done until they rae all gone.
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How many countries drive on the 'wrong' side of the road? How many of those visit the Algarve? I don't know about the Irish.
But it still suggests a Britto Thicko.
If it looks like a donkey, smells like a donkey, and brays like a donkey, then my money is on donkey.
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You have decided to jump to a prejudiced conclusion, based on zero evidence. It's a bit like those Daily Mail readers who assume every act of terrorism is by a Muslim, or every person who sticks a knife into another person must be black.
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If a lorry driver killed 6 whilst using his mobile phone, then I, personally, would label him as much more than a 'thicko'. I would put him inside, and throw away the key.
What is your point? *%87
And yet you're happy to label a drunk behind the wheel a "thicko". Bloody bizarre. IMO.
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A friend of ours soent quite a long time in Germany. After his return he was driving along a quiet road one day when he saw a lorry voming towards him on his side of th road. As they got closer to each other his nerbe broke and he switched to the other side of the road. The lorry driver's nerve went at the same moment and he switched too.They avoided each other in the end and our friend suddenly realised it was him who had been driving on the wtong side.
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https://translate.google.pt/translate?hl=en&tab=wT&sl=pt&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmjornal.pt%2Fportugal%2Fdetalhe%2Fmae-desespera-por-filha-menor-desaparecida-no-algarve%3Fref%3DHP_DestaqueLateral
This is news about a 15 year old girl who went missing 20 days ago from her home in the Algarve. Her mother suspects paedofilia.
This may be true. However, the girl's story is much more complex. The family had moved from Lisbon around a year ago. There, the girl had run away from home 4 times, and she had also been institutionalised.
I am simply stacking this up for future reference.
The girl's name is Sofia Gil.
The PJ are investigating the disappearance.
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https://translate.google.pt/translate?hl=en&tab=wT&sl=pt&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmjornal.pt%2Fportugal%2Fdetalhe%2Fmae-desespera-por-filha-menor-desaparecida-no-algarve%3Fref%3DHP_DestaqueLateral
This is news about a 15 year old girl who went missing 20 days ago from her home in the Algarve. Her mother suspects paedofilia.
This may be true. However, the girl's story is much more complex. The family had moved from Lisbon around a year ago. There, the girl had run away from home 4 times, and she had also been institutionalised.
I am simply stacking this up for future reference.
The girl's name is Sofia Gil.
The PJ are investigating the disappearance.
God help her then.
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"April has just broken up and in Tavira the weather is not cold, but it is still not on the terrace. The Três Palmeiras restaurant, on the south bank of the Gilão river, is the exception. Outside, the tables are filled with foreigners who arrive in the Algarve looking for beaches with warm water, clean sand and freshly grilled fish. There is no way, however, to go to the island of Deserta, at this time of the year only within the reach of those who have their own boat. "It is our little paradise", says João Diniz, resident and surfer of habitual presence in the island. There, the sand is "white, white" and the water "the most clear of the Algarve", describes.
A few weeks ago, the scenario changed. The rising wind that comes from the Strait of Gibraltar and causes waves with more than two meters brought more than changes of tide. Old rags, tires, appliances, shopping trolleys and much plastic left the shore leaving a litter carpet in the sand."
From today's Diário de Notícias.
There's more, but unless you want to pay for a premium account, there is no point in pasting the link.
Luz is in western Algarve. Tavira is in eastern Algarve. The only connection to Madeleine's disappearance that I know of is a very obscure one.
'My' Luz is properly called 'Luz, Lagos'. That means Luz in the district of Lagos. That's because the district of Tavira also has a Luz, more properly called 'Luz, Tavira'. I'd guess they also have a church called Nossa Senhora da Luz.
I have eaten in the town of Tavira, in pre-MBM days, so I wasn't looking for anything other than a restaurant. My only memory is that we drove around the town 3 times not finding a parking space, and my beloved had lost the will to live. She was saying loudly it was time to head back to base.
I got out and put her in the passenger seat. She does not do 'Portuguese' parking. I do. I stuck the car half on half off a pavement on a corner. It would either survive or it wouldn't. We went off for a stroll in Tavira and a meal. The car was non-dented and non-booked when we came back to return back to our holiday home.
The word Luz is used for other reasons. One team in the Portuguese first division plays home games at the Stadium of Light. It is also used in offers of joint electricity and gas from one supplier, when electricity is often referred not as electricity but as luz, or light.
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"April has just broken up and in Tavira the weather is not cold, but it is still not on the terrace. The Três Palmeiras restaurant, on the south bank of the Gilão river, is the exception. Outside, the tables are filled with foreigners who arrive in the Algarve looking for beaches with warm water, clean sand and freshly grilled fish. There is no way, however, to go to the island of Deserta, at this time of the year only within the reach of those who have their own boat. "It is our little paradise", says João Diniz, resident and surfer of habitual presence in the island. There, the sand is "white, white" and the water "the most clear of the Algarve", describes.
A few weeks ago, the scenario changed. The rising wind that comes from the Strait of Gibraltar and causes waves with more than two meters brought more than changes of tide. Old rags, tires, appliances, shopping trolleys and much plastic left the shore leaving a litter carpet in the sand."
From today's Diário de Notícias.
There's more, but unless you want to pay for a premium account, there is no point in pasting the link.
Luz is in western Algarve. Tavira is in eastern Algarve. The only connection to Madeleine's disappearance that I know of is a very obscure one.
'My' Luz is properly called 'Luz, Lagos'. That means Luz in the district of Lagos. That's because the district of Tavira also has a Luz, more properly called 'Luz, Tavira'. I'd guess they also have a church called Nossa Senhora da Luz.
I have eaten in the town of Tavira, in pre-MBM days, so I wasn't looking for anything other than a restaurant. My only memory is that we drove around the town 3 times not finding a parking space, and my beloved had lost the will to live. She was saying loudly it was time to head back to base.
I got out and put her in the passenger seat. She does not do 'Portuguese' parking. I do. I stuck the car half on half off a pavement on a corner. It would either survive or it wouldn't. We went off for a stroll in Tavira and a meal. The car was non-dented and non-booked when we came back to return back to our holiday home.
The word Luz is used for other reasons. One team in the Portuguese first division plays home games at the Stadium of Light. It is also used in offers of joint electricity and gas from one supplier, when electricity is often referred not as electricity but as luz, or light.
That was interesting. You should Blog about that.
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https://translate.google.pt/translate?hl=en&tab=wT&sl=pt&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmjornal.pt%2Fportugal%2Fdetalhe%2Fmae-desespera-por-filha-menor-desaparecida-no-algarve%3Fref%3DHP_DestaqueLateral
This is news about a 15 year old girl who went missing 20 days ago from her home in the Algarve. Her mother suspects paedofilia.
This may be true. However, the girl's story is much more complex. The family had moved from Lisbon around a year ago. There, the girl had run away from home 4 times, and she had also been institutionalised.
I am simply stacking this up for future reference.
The girl's name is Sofia Gil.
The PJ are investigating the disappearance.
The PJ have located Sofia Gil in Lisbon, at the home of a friend from her old school in that area. So unlikely to be paedofilia but rather her 5th time of running away from home.
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The PJ have located Sofia Gil in Lisbon, at the home of a friend from her old school in that area. So unlikely to be paedofilia but rather her 5th time of running away from home.
Good news that she has turned up hopefully safe and well.
I think it is a prime example though of one of the missing children allegedly disadvantaged by the search for Madeleine McCann.
Statistically she was missing.
Theoretically she is a child ... although I think she would probably argue that point.
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The GNR have been conducting Operation Páscoa (Easter) over the weekend, on main roads across Portugal. On Easter Sunday/Monday, they registered 7 deaths due to traffic accidents. 5 of these were motorcyclists. The accidents were unrelated, with differing causes.
https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/pascoa-tragica-na-estrada-mata-cinco-motociclistas?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral
One of the motorbike deaths was a 32 year-old bombeiro, who died in a collision with a car on a road in Lagos. The Lagos bombeiros are reported to be in shock. The man leaves behind 2 young sons.
I have no idea as to whether there is a culture in Portugal of going out for a bike ride at Easter, or whether this news is a statistical coincidence.
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bombeiro m (plural bombeiros, feminine bombeira, feminine plural bombeiras)
firefighter (person trained to extinguish fires and undertake rescue operations)
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https://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/agressoes-e-ameacas-dias-antes-de-morte-de-dono-de-bar-em-aljezur?ref=HP_Destaque
This is news about the killing of a cafe owner in Alzejur. He was shot to death. There had been an altercation in his bar a few days before the killing. It was caught on the cafe's CCTV.
Alzejur is quite a short distance up the EN120 from where we live now. However, we have never actually visited it, so I can only rely on Google Earth and Google Streetview.
The other snippet of information I can give was that Alzejur was a favoured summer holiday location for David Cameron, back in the days when he was PM. My most recent info (not really recent) is that it still is.
You may well get more information on this news story if you Google it, along with Natasha Donn. She should have covered the story, in English.
The link I have given has 5 photos.
It also comes up with another snippet of information. The 'suspect' was heard yesterday by the Tribunal of Lagos. I didn't know a Tribunal of Lagos existed. The photo shows the alleged suspect leaving freely after the hearing. He does not appear to be in detention.
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https://mag.sapo.pt/tv/atualidade-tv/artigos/onde-esta-madeleine-mccann-vem-ai-um-novo-documentario-sobre-o-desaparecimento-mais-mediatico-do-seculo
Sorry, I couldn't think of a better place to park this, but as I am on the Algarve ... blame Portuguese parking.
ID - Investigation Discovery - is airing a 2 hour special on MBM at 11pm on 26 May 2019.
Let me dissect that.
ID appears to be US, so I have no idea what time zone 11pm relates to. Equally, I have no idea if I can get ID directly, or whether it flogs content to other channels.
SAPO is a Portuguese organisation. Perhaps that means 11pm in Portuguese time, which is identical to UK time. I have no idea whether I can get SAPO or not.
If you are interested, you might wish to do a scan in your location.
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https://mag.sapo.pt/tv/atualidade-tv/artigos/onde-esta-madeleine-mccann-vem-ai-um-novo-documentario-sobre-o-desaparecimento-mais-mediatico-do-seculo
Sorry, I couldn't think of a better place to park this, but as I am on the Algarve ... blame Portuguese parking.
ID - Investigation Discovery - is airing a 2 hour special on MBM at 11pm on 26 May 2019.
Let me dissect that.
ID appears to be US, so I have no idea what time zone 11pm relates to. Equally, I have no idea if I can get ID directly, or whether it flogs content to other channels.
SAPO is a Portuguese organisation. Perhaps that means 11pm in Portuguese time, which is identical to UK time. I have no idea whether I can get SAPO or not.
If you are interested, you might wish to do a scan in your location.
It seems to be based on the Netflix documentary ... I wonder if it will air there? I see the trailer is punting George the gypsy.
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https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/05/16/devastated-family-accuse-authorities-of-trying-to-dismiss-unexplained-death-as-a-nothing/
By portugalresident 2019-05-16 Posted 2019-05-16 InTop Stories
Devastated family accuse authorities of trying to dismiss unexplained death as “a nothing”
Devastated family accuse authorities of trying to dismiss unexplained death as “a nothing”
A devastated family whose loved-one died in a bizarre accident on the A2 motorway near Silves earlier this year has appealed for further information.
The grandparents of 22-year-old Vivi Zachmann – run-over by a car after apparently running along the motorway after dark – do not believe they have been given the full story.
Media reports at the time suggested Vivi had been drinking with two other men (click here).
The trio were apparently in a car, travelling north, which pulled over to the side of the road for the driver to urinate.
The suggestion is that Vivi then got involved in a discussion that led her to leave the car and run down the tarmac “erratically”, causing a car to fatally hit her.
But in the absence of a toxicology report – or even official police report – the family are stumped.
Explains grandmother Dee Burbank, British by nationality: “For six weeks we have tried calling/writing to every consulate, (German/ British/ American/ Portuguese). We have written to the German Foreign Office, mayors, German/ Portuguese police authorities, etc to try and find out what the official investigation revealed.
“To date, we have nothing. No one is interested in giving us any information.
“We are devastated to think that our girl was just another number, a statistic, a nothing.
“We cannot understand that as family members no one will give us the time of day or any explanation”.
Dee Burbank described her granddaughters as a “first class student at a German University, studying Chinese” who had just returned from China after receiving a full scholarship to study there”.
The idea that she could have become so drunk as to end up on foot on a motorway simply does not gel with the family’s knowledge of their “beautiful, caring, intelligent” loved-one.
“As a sensible, organized and pragmatic young woman, we feel this is not something she would logically do. It all makes no sense to us”, said Vivi’s grandmother.
The family – especially Vivi’s heartbroken single-parent father – want ‘answers’, at the very least clarity.
At this point, “we have no idea if she was intoxicated or if she was trying to escape a bad situation”, said Dee Burbank.
A call to the accident department of Albufeira GNR elicited limited information.
Vivi was already dead by the time agents and emergency response got to the scene, so it would be impossible to say exactly what caused her to be in the middle of the motorway, said a source.
“We cannot help with the toxicology results, as these will be held by the Tribunal of Albufeira”, said a spokesman, putting us through to the agent who had apparently been one of the first on the scene on that tragic night of April 2.
The agent confirmed that Vivi was found “in the middle of the highway” and that “the whole situation was very complicated”.
“There were no witnesses”, he explained. “All we had to go on were the accounts of the boyfriend who we found further up the motorway, and the driver.
“The driver that hit the young woman was not even aware he had hit a human being until after he stopped his car”.
The agent agreed “it is very easy to understand that the family is upset and thinking that maybe there is more to this than we know. Maybe there is…”
He did give pointers as to how to expedite the autopsy report – which will include details that should show whether Vivi was under the influence of any substances.
Thus for now this desperately sad mystery remains ‘unclarified’ – and the family will continue pressing for answers.
Said Vivi’s grandmother: “It took thirty days before we could receive our child to bury her. We were unable to view her or give her kiss”.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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Shocking but not surprising. 8(8-))
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This story is even worse. I'm only surprised the court didn't jail the wife as it was clearly all her fault. %77*
https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/05/13/suspended-sentence-for-drink-drive-dad-found-guilty-of-causing-baby-daughters-death/
By portugalresident 2019-05-13 Posted 2019-05-13 InPortugal
Suspended sentence for drink-drive dad found guilty of causing baby daughter’s death
Suspended sentence for drink-drive dad found guilty of causing baby daughter’s death
A 45-year-old truck driver father has found guilty of the negligent homicide of his two-year-old daughter following a ‘brutal accident’ which saw her ‘spat out of her baby-seat’, ending up crushed under the family car.
Judges in Évora heard how little Francisca Costa was travelling in a seat that was technically out of date safety-wise, and not restrained by the car’s seat belt.
When the Renault Clio skidded out of control on a dangerous bend in the early hours of the morning, there was nothing to save her.
She was literally ‘spat from the seat’, leaving marks of the seat’s restraints on her shoulders.
As the car rolled over and over, somehow the little girl’s body ended up underneath it.
Say reports today, it was a female firefighter, attending the scene, who discovered the body with the use of a torch
João Costa was driving ‘under the influence of alcohol’ and had been at a ‘baile’ (traditional dance) with his partner and elder daughter.
The evening had seen the parents ‘have a disagreement’, and it was in this context that they were driving home.
The tragedy however gets worse. It was not João Costa who put his child into the car without proper safety restraints, it was his wife – who hadn’t apparently been drinking.
Suffice it to say, the sentence delivered by judges confirmed an early court verdict of three years jail, suspended.
João Costa has also been banned from driving for 15 months, and ordered to pay a fine of 1,315 euros.
Tabloid Correio da Manhã says Costa’s partner had been seeking compensation of 300,000 euros, from Costa, his insurance and the Automobile Guarantee Fund, but the bid failed as she had been the one responsible for paying the car’s insurance, and it had lapsed through non-payment a month before.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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What a tragedy, though I’m surprised to hear the man was drunk while driving as I had been led to believe all drink-drivers in Portugal were stupid Brits.
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This story is even worse. I'm only surprised the court didn't jail the wife as it was clearly all her fault. %77*
https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/05/13/suspended-sentence-for-drink-drive-dad-found-guilty-of-causing-baby-daughters-death/
By portugalresident 2019-05-13 Posted 2019-05-13 InPortugal
Suspended sentence for drink-drive dad found guilty of causing baby daughter’s death
Suspended sentence for drink-drive dad found guilty of causing baby daughter’s death
A 45-year-old truck driver father has found guilty of the negligent homicide of his two-year-old daughter following a ‘brutal accident’ which saw her ‘spat out of her baby-seat’, ending up crushed under the family car.
Judges in Évora heard how little Francisca Costa was travelling in a seat that was technically out of date safety-wise, and not restrained by the car’s seat belt.
When the Renault Clio skidded out of control on a dangerous bend in the early hours of the morning, there was nothing to save her.
She was literally ‘spat from the seat’, leaving marks of the seat’s restraints on her shoulders.
As the car rolled over and over, somehow the little girl’s body ended up underneath it.
Say reports today, it was a female firefighter, attending the scene, who discovered the body with the use of a torch
João Costa was driving ‘under the influence of alcohol’ and had been at a ‘baile’ (traditional dance) with his partner and elder daughter.
The evening had seen the parents ‘have a disagreement’, and it was in this context that they were driving home.
The tragedy however gets worse. It was not João Costa who put his child into the car without proper safety restraints, it was his wife – who hadn’t apparently been drinking.
Suffice it to say, the sentence delivered by judges confirmed an early court verdict of three years jail, suspended.
João Costa has also been banned from driving for 15 months, and ordered to pay a fine of 1,315 euros.
Tabloid Correio da Manhã says Costa’s partner had been seeking compensation of 300,000 euros, from Costa, his insurance and the Automobile Guarantee Fund, but the bid failed as she had been the one responsible for paying the car’s insurance, and it had lapsed through non-payment a month before.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
Whilst I have no disagreement with your sentiment, do you realise that Évora is nowhere near the Algarve?
Presumably I am now free to post every nasty story that originates in the UK.
Because I have had enough of this propaganda.
Trust me, if you want propaganda, I can make Clarence look like the office juniour.
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Whilst I have no disagreement with your sentiment, do you realise that Évora is nowhere near the Algarve?
Presumably I am now free to post every nasty story that originates in the UK.
Because I have had enough of this propaganda.
Trust me, if you want propaganda, I can make Clarence look like the office juniour.
I do know Evora is marginally closer to the Algarve than Lisbon.
Feel free to post what you want about UK justice. Drunken drivers who kill someone here tend to serve custodial sentences but same cannot be said of those under the influence of drugs.
In both the stories I highlighted in Portugal, the Law has treated the victims & their families with disdain. Portugal is far from unique in that respect so please don't pretend otherwise.
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I do know Evora is marginally closer to the Algarve than Lisbon.
Feel free to post what you want about UK justice. Drunken drivers who kill someone here tend to serve custodial sentences but same cannot be said of those under the influence of drugs.
In both the stories I highlighted in Portugal, the Law has treated the victims & their families with disdain. Portugal is far from unique in that respect so please don't pretend otherwise.
Evora isn't in the Algarve so is off topic. The story is posted to damage the reputation of Portugal's justice system and for no other reason imo.
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I do know Evora is marginally closer to the Algarve than Lisbon.
Feel free to post what you want about UK justice. Drunken drivers who kill someone here tend to serve custodial sentences but same cannot be said of those under the influence of drugs.
In both the stories I highlighted in Portugal, the Law has treated the victims & their families with disdain. Portugal is far from unique in that respect so please don't pretend otherwise.
I didn't 'pretend' anything.
I pointed out that your post is clearly off-topic. Which you have now admitted.
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Has the Algarve adopted a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI) while no-one was looking and adopted it's own Justice system independent of Portugal?
Is that why the hub of the renewed investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance from the Algarve was instituted and continues in the Northern city of Porto which is possibly as far removed from the influence of Lisbon and the South as is logistically possible?
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Has the Algarve adopted a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI) while no-one was looking and adopted it's own Justice system independent of Portugal?
Is that why the hub of the renewed investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance from the Algarve was instituted and continues in the Northern city of Porto which is possibly as far removed from the influence of Lisbon and the South as is logistically possible?
Previous posts from Lisbon and elsewhere have been deleted as off-topic, so think carefully before you nail your colours to the mast.
It is faster to get from Luton airport to Faro, than it is to get from here to Évora. That mis-presumption would put much of Western Europe under suspicion.
As a moderator, you are supposed to delete off-topic posts, not support them.
The Algarve means the Western end of the Arab empire. It was indeed a separate kingdom once upon a time.
The Alentejo means south of the river Tejo, known in English as the river Tagus, the river which empties into the Atlantic in Lisbon. It does not include The Algarve.
Lisbon is Lisbon. Porto is Porto. Neither is anywhere near the Algarve. Hence off-topic re the thread title.
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Previous posts from Lisbon and elsewhere have been deleted as off-topic, so think carefully before you nail your colours to the mast.
It is faster to get from Luton airport to Faro, than it is to get from here to Évora. That mis-presumption would put much of Western Europe under suspicion.
As a moderator, you are supposed to delete off-topic posts, not support them.
The Algarve means the Western end of the Arab empire. It was indeed a separate kingdom once upon a time.
The Alentejo means south of the river Tejo, known in English as the river Tagus, the river which empties into the Atlantic in Lisbon. It does not include The Algarve.
Lisbon is Lisbon. Porto is Porto. Neither is anywhere near the Algarve. Hence off-topic re the thread title.
I consider your criticism of my off-topic post unjustified after reading pages 1 to 3 of this topic.
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I consider your criticism of my off-topic post unjustified after reading pages 1 to 3 of this topic.
Then complain to the mods about pages 1 to 3.
Évora is nowhere near the Algarve. Simple. Off-topic.
From memory it is a World Heritage City. Very interesting if you ever choose to visit.
But definitely nowhere near the Algarve.
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I consider your criticism of my off-topic post unjustified after reading pages 1 to 3 of this topic.
It may have been “off-topic” merely because of geographical proximity or lack thereof, but it was certainly revealing of the Portuguese judicial mindset which appears to prevail throughout the country, not just in the Algarve.
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Then complain to the mods about pages 1 to 3.
Évora is nowhere near the Algarve. Simple. Off-topic.
From memory it is a World Heritage City. Very interesting if you ever choose to visit.
But definitely nowhere near the Algarve.
I have no wish to complain to the Mods, especially the ones who made the off-topic posts, as I don't have a problem with them.
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I have no wish to complain to the Mods, especially the ones who made the off-topic posts, as I don't have a problem with them.
OK.
I take it you have no problem if I DO report your posts as off topic, as they clearly are.
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OK.
I take it you have no problem if I DO report your posts as off topic, as they clearly are.
No problem whatsoever. I'm not precious enough to think my posts matter.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34779839
The recently elected govt has been flushed down the toilet. We found out from an estate agent who thought property prices are going to plummet. (I am of a different opinion.)
From the BBC link -
"Portuguese left-wing opposition parties have toppled the country's minority government by rejecting its programme in parliament.
A centre-right coalition won most votes in October's election but lost its overall majority.
A new leftist bloc has now voted 123 to 107 against the administration's programme, prompting its collapse.
The move could lead to a new government led by the Socialist Party, likely to focus on alleviating austerity."
What has this post got to do with the Algarve, specifically?
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This should actually be in a general news thread, but I cannot find that.
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Evaristo Felgueiras, a tutor of mathematics and professor of karate, was convicted yesterday in the Viana do Castelo court to five years suspended for abusing 11 minors between the ages of 12 and 16. The defendant, 41, was charged with 82 counts of child sexual abuse and six counts of teen sex offenses. The events occurred between 2015 and 2017. One of the judges of the collective voted against the suspension.
Read more in: http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/explicador-que-abusou-de-11-menores-tem-pena-suspensa?ref=HP_Grupo1
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I am posting this to provide confirmation that sentences up to 5 years can be, and are, suspended.
The maximum penalty for body occultation (illegally dealing with a dead body) is two years.
Did this occur in the Algarve?
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What has this post got to do with the Algarve, specifically?
I haven't got a clue, and I'm not pedantic enough to check the context.
The report to moderator button is there for a reason.
Get on with it.
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I haven't got a clue, and I'm not pedantic enough to check the context.
The report to moderator button is there for a reason.
Get on with it.
It’s your post and you haven’t got a clue of its specific relevance to the Algarve? Tsk.
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Did this occur in the Algarve?
You'll struggle on this one.
Kate McCann, allegedly offered a plea deal, was on the Algarve at the time it was not offered.
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You'll struggle on this one.
Kate McCann, allegedly offered a plea deal, was on the Algarve at the time it was not offered.
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Previous posts from Lisbon and elsewhere have been deleted as off-topic, so think carefully before you nail your colours to the mast.
It is faster to get from Luton airport to Faro, than it is to get from here to Évora. That mis-presumption would put much of Western Europe under suspicion.
As a moderator, you are supposed to delete off-topic posts, not support them.
The Algarve means the Western end of the Arab empire. It was indeed a separate kingdom once upon a time.
The Alentejo means south of the river Tejo, known in English as the river Tagus, the river which empties into the Atlantic in Lisbon. It does not include The Algarve.
Lisbon is Lisbon. Porto is Porto. Neither is anywhere near the Algarve. Hence off-topic re the thread title.
I can only say that I wish members were as punctilious as you would wish them to be about the 'off topic' posts which prevail on every single thread on the McCann board.
Perhaps the answer to the current lack of news coming out of the Algarve but from everywhere else in Portugal is an obvious one.
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I can only say that I wish members were as punctilious as you would wish them to be about the 'off topic' posts which prevail on every single thread on the McCann board.
Perhaps the answer to the current lack of news coming out of the Algarve but from everywhere else in Portugal is an obvious one.
Thank you.
Your choice of the word 'punctilious' is interesting.
I choose to inform members and guests that Évora is hours away from the Algarve. They can check for themselves.
Feel free to clean up pages 1 to 3 of this thread if you so choose. That is what you volunteered for, is it not?
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You'll struggle on this one.
Kate McCann, allegedly offered a plea deal, was on the Algarve at the time it was not offered.
Perhaps we could start a discussion on Processo Sumarissimo & how it could be confused with a plea bargain.
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Feel free.
It been done to death.
I noticed that parapono, a person I have not seen in years, turned up on the board in the last 2 days or so.
She flagged up the relevant Portuguese legislation. Two years for body occultation. That's in Portuguese criminal law.
It's going to be a short discussion.
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Feel free.
It been done to death.
I noticed that parapono, a person I have not seen in years, turned up on the board in the last 2 days or so.
She flagged up the relevant Portuguese legislation. Two years for body occultation. That's in Portuguese criminal law.
It's going to be a short discussion.
which tends to lend credence to the idea that Kate was offered a deal.
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Feel free.
It been done to death.
I noticed that parapono, a person I have not seen in years, turned up on the board in the last 2 days or so.
She flagged up the relevant Portuguese legislation. Two years for body occultation. That's in Portuguese criminal law.
It's going to be a short discussion.
I know that. So why was such an "offer" put to Kate & only Kate?
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which tends to lend credence to the idea that Kate was offered a deal.
Quite the opposite.
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Quite the opposite.
This is what I think the PJ were attempting to do:-
https://www.apav.pt/apav_v3/index.php/pt/13-a-vitima-e-a-lei/70-o-processo-penal
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What is the common process?
A: It is the normal form of process, where a special form is not applicable.
What is the abbreviated process?
A: It is one of the special forms of criminal procedure, which can be followed if the Public Prosecutor requests it, when the crime is punishable by a fine or imprisonment not exceeding 5 years, and there is simple and obvious evidence that sufficient evidence that the crime has been verified and who was its agent.
What is the summary process?
A: It is a special form of criminal procedure, simplified, to try persons who have been arrested in flagrante delicto and in the case of crimes that, as a rule, do not apply a penalty of more than 5 years in prison and the trial can be carried out within forty-eight hours of the arrest.
What is the sumaríssimo process?
A: Another special form of criminal procedure to be applied in cases where the crime is punishable by a term of imprisonment not exceeding five years or only with a fine, if the Public Prosecution Office understands that a penalty or a security measure not deprived of freedom and so request; it is necessary that there be agreement with the request by the judge, defendant and, if the crime is particular, also of the assistant.
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I know that. So why was such an "offer" put to Kate & only Kate?
It wasn't an 'offer'. It was an explanation of the law.
Kate would, almost certainly, have walked free. With no more than a suspended sentence, like Gonçalo Amaral.
As to why Kate, she was best placed to have the means and motivation to carry out body occultation.
Dear guests, this does not mean I think Kate did it. But she was definitely the best name in the frame.
To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
Can we now return to 'News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve'?
We are so far off-topic, we might as well be forensically examining life in Rothley.
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Quite the opposite.
Wrong.
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Wrong.
Nope.
Want to keep up the one-worders?
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It wasn't an 'offer'. It was an explanation of the law.
Kate would, almost certainly, have walked free. With no more than a suspended sentence, like Gonçalo Amaral.
As to why Kate, she was best placed to have the means and motivation to carry out body occultation.
Dear guests, this does not mean I think Kate did it. But she was definitely the best name in the frame.
To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
Can we now return to 'News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve'?
We are so far off-topic, we might as well be forensically examining life in Rothley.
So why did the PJ need to discuss an explanation of the Law with a Portuguese lawyer, who would have been very familiar with it, later telling Kate to listen to him very carefully?
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Nope.
Want to keep up the one-worders?
Yep.
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According to SIL Kate would have almost certainly walked free if she had admitted to hiding her child’s body. What sort of a crazy country is Portugal??
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So why did the PJ need to discuss an explanation of the Law with a Portuguese lawyer, who would have been very familiar with it, later telling Kate to listen to him very carefully?
Crikey.
Pretty simple really if you read 'madeleine'.
It would appear that before Kate was made an arguido, her lawyer was taken aside.
It would appear that he was told about the dog evidence and the DNA evidence. I have no reason to believe he had expertise in either, so he was in no position to judge.
Kate had easy access to a method of body disposal.
Dear guests, I don't know what became of MBM, so I don't know who dunnit.
I simply know that Kate was a 'reasonable suspect', which required checking out.
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Crikey.
Pretty simple really if you read 'madeleine'.
It would appear that before Kate was made an arguido, her lawyer was taken aside.
It would appear that he was told about the dog evidence and the DNA evidence. I have no reason to believe he had expertise in either, so he was in no position to judge.
Kate had easy access to a method of body disposal.
Dear guests, I don't know what became of MBM, so I don't know who dunnit.
I simply know that Kate was a 'reasonable suspect', which required checking out.
Do you believe that Abreu didn't act in Kate's best interests, as you seem to be suggesting, by failing to read the FSS report sent to Portugal on Sept. 4th 2007, or investigating the dogs, before advising Kate to admit to concealing a cadaver?
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Do you believe that Abreu didn't act in Kate's best interests, as you seem to be suggesting, by failing to read the FSS report sent to Portugal on Sept. 4th 2007, or investigating the dogs, before advising Kate to admit to concealing a cadaver?
No.
He got to attend an interview with Kate as a witness, from memory.
After that, he got hoinked off to be told what the PJ thought.
Then there was a late night meeting with the McCanns. In which he explained that Kate would not get more than 2 years for body occultation, as per Portuguese law.
Excuse me, I'm watching an interesting programme on Fátima.
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Has the Algarve adopted a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI) while no-one was looking and adopted it's own Justice system independent of Portugal?
Is that why the hub of the renewed investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance from the Algarve was instituted and continues in the Northern city of Porto which is possibly as far removed from the influence of Lisbon and the South as is logistically possible?
Accordng to the Attorney General's office in October 2013 the reopened investigation was to be run by the Public Prosecutor's Office in Portimao. No menton of Porto.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Portuguese_Attorney_General_24_10_2013.htm
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Out of interest why would anyone admit to killing someone whose body had never been found, if they just had to admit to body occultation which only attracts a two year term in prison, one which you’re probably likely to walk free from anyway?
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Out of interest why would anyone admit to killing someone whose body had never been found, if they just had to admit to body occultation which only attracts a two year term in prison, one which you’re probably likely to walk free from anyway?
One wouldn't. That's whole point.
Accidental death plus body occultation is the scenario that was being put to Kate.
Max 2 years, almost certainly suspended.
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One wouldn't. That's whole point.
Accidental death plus body occultation is the scenario that was being put to Kate.
Max 2 years, almost certainly suspended.
Someone was going to ask where is the body if Kate had agreed to this. Difficult if you hadn't done it.
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Someone was going to ask where is the body if Kate had agreed to this. Difficult if you hadn't done it.
The rubbish bins she had passed 4 times, if she claimed to remember.
Otherwise, if she couldn't remember, the police had not found body remains in 4 months. So an 'I can't remember' would have sufficed.
For guests, I am NOT saying it happened this way.
However, if it did, within a few days of 3 May Kate would have known she had got away with it.
Whilst by the time of Kate's arguido interview, roughly 4 months later, the PJ would have known they could not pin the tail on the donkey.
Corrie McKeague.
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The rubbish bins she had passed 4 times, if she claimed to remember.
Otherwise, if she couldn't remember, the police had not found body remains in 4 months. So an 'I can't remember' would have sufficed.
For guests, I am NOT saying it happened this way.
However, if it did, within a few days of 3 May Kate would have known she had got away with it.
Whilst by the time of Kate's arguido interview, roughly 4 months later, the PJ would have known they could not pin the tail on the donkey.
Corrie McKeague.
So if Kate said “Madeleine had an accident and I threw her body in the bin”, the PJ would have taken her word for it and given her a two year sentence, possibly suspended? &%%6
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So if Kate said “Madeleine had an accident and I threw her body in the bin”, the PJ would have taken her word for it and given her a two year sentence, possibly suspended? &%%6
Kindly read my post before you spout complete cobblers. &%%6
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Kindly read my post before you spout complete cobblers. &%%6
I have read all your recent posts on the subject. Kindly explain why Kate would have walked away with no more than a suspended sentence had she admitted to hiding Madeleine’s body?
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I have read all your recent posts on the subject. Kindly explain why Kate would have walked away with no more than a suspended sentence had she admitted to hiding Madeleine’s body?
I have done already.
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I have done already.
You may have attempted to do so but you have failed to explain why an admission of body occultation would have been accepted by the police with no evidence to confirm how or why the child died beyond the say so of the parent.
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You may have attempted to do so but you have failed to explain why an admission of body occultation would have been accepted by the police with no evidence to confirm how or why the child died beyond the say so of the parent.
If the PJ hadn't got a body, then they didn't know how that body died.
The alleged 'deal' offered to Kate was a maximum of 2 years. According to Kate.
Occultation. End of.
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If the PJ hadn't got a body, then they didn't know how that body died.
The alleged 'deal' offered to Kate was a maximum of 2 years. According to Kate.
Occultation. End of.
Which if true would IMO be an appalling dereliction of their duty to investigate the mysterious death of a child, if they would be prepared to settle for a two year suspended sentence based on the word of the mother. If only the Ciprianos had known this they could have been walking free all these years instead of “confessing”.
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Which if true would IMO be an appalling dereliction of their duty to investigate the mysterious death of a child, if they would be prepared to settle for a two year suspended sentence based on the word of the mother. If only the Ciprianos had known this they could have been walking free all these years instead of “confessing”.
I have no interest in the Cipriano case, so I have no idea whether they generated international publicity or could afford a decent lawyer.
Try sticking to the MBM case.
The Cipriano forum is elsewhere.
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I have no interest in the Cipriano case, so I have no idea whether they generated international publicity or could afford a decent lawyer.
Try sticking to the MBM case.
The Cipriano forum is elsewhere.
It’s the principle I’m interested in - the fact that you can literally get away with murder in Portugal if you dispose of a body well enough and tell the police you hid it, you just get a two year sentence, probably suspended. Does that strike you as just?
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It’s the principle I’m interested in - the fact that you can literally get away with murder in Portugal if you dispose of a body well enough and tell the police you hid it, you just get a two year sentence, probably suspended. Does that strike you as just?
I think the catch is the accused has to produce the body to be eligible for the 2 year sentence.
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I think the catch is the accused has to produce the body to be eligible for the 2 year sentence.
Ha! I knew there must be more to it than a simple confession. So the body is produced, is forensically examined and death was determined to be an injury to the head, do you still only get a suspended two year sentence?
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I think the catch is the accused has to produce the body to be eligible for the 2 year sentence.
There's no such requirement in Portuguese law.
If Kate put Madeleine's body into a wheelie bin on 3 May then by early September there was no way anyone was going to retrieve the cadaver.
Corrie McKeague.
Probably Ben Needham as well.
Further, Kate makes no mention of body retrieval in her book. Just an admission of body occultation, as per the law.
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There's no such requirement in Portuguese law.
If Kate put Madeleine's body into a wheelie bin on 3 May then by early September there was no way anyone was going to retrieve the cadaver.
Corrie McKeague.
Probably Ben Needham as well.
Further, Kate makes no mention of body retrieval in her book. Just an admission of body occultation, as per the law.
I think you are talking utter rubbish and you won't have a cite
So a muderer could make up any story Re accidental death and say they occulted the body.... Then just get a two year suspended sentence... Obviously your claim is false
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I think you are talking utter rubbish and you won't have a cite
So a muderer could make up any story Re accidental death and say they occulted the body.... Then just get a two year suspended sentence... Obviously your claim is false
Do I have a cite for something that is NOT in the law? &%%6
parapono produced the relevant Portuguese law on this forum perhaps two years ago. Feel free to go look it up.
Since Kate herself says the alleged deal was a maximum sentence of two years, you're obviously flying without wings. Feel free to look that up too.
Body occultation with no body? Maximum of 2 years, almost certainly suspended.
You are missing the key point in spectacular manner. Supporters should be pouncing on this opportunity. Quite why they haven't is a mystery. Or perhaps not?
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Do I have a cite for something that is NOT in the law? &%%6
parapono produced the relevant Portuguese law on this forum perhaps two years ago. Feel free to go look it up.
Since Kate herself says the alleged deal was a maximum sentence of two years, you're obviously flying without wings. Feel free to look that up too.
Body occultation with no body? Maximum of 2 years, almost certainly suspended.
You are missing the key point in spectacular manner. Supporters should be pouncing on this opportunity. Quite why they haven't is a mystery. Or perhaps not?
As I said you wouldnt have a cite for your ridiculous claim.... So the court are not interested in the cause of death... That's ridiculous and must be wrong... But you do tend to make things up as you go along... IMO
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As I said you wouldnt have a cite for your ridiculous claim.... So the court are not interested in the cause of death... That's ridiculous and must be wrong... But you do tend to make things up as you go along... IMO
I've told you how and where to check.
Perhaps instead of insults you would have the decency to do so? I'm not holding my breath.
How are you getting on with The Sun, by the way? Tudo bem?
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I've told you how and where to check.
Perhaps instead of insults you would have the decency to do so? I'm not holding my breath.
How are you getting on with The Sun, by the way? Tudo bem?
A post two years ago by parapono... Is not a cite..
You havent provided a cite so your claim is worthless
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A post two years ago by parapono... Is not a cite..
You havent provided a cite so your claim is worthless
It is a cite indeed.
AFAIK, parapono has been largely absent from the board for the last 2 years, so off you pop.
Or you could look up what Kate said in her book, equally easy.
Talk about empty cans...
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It is a cite indeed.
AFAIK, parapono has been largely absent from the board for the last 2 years, so off you pop.
Or you could look up what Kate said in her book, equally easy.
Talk about empty cans...
I find you posts very child like
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I find you posts very child like
And roughly speaking, that sums you up.
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I think you are talking utter rubbish and you won't have a cite
So a muderer could make up any story Re accidental death and say they occulted the body.... Then just get a two year suspended sentence... Obviously your claim is false
My point exactly. If it is true though then Portugal is even more of a LaLa Land than I ever previously thought possible.
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Fortunately Parapono only made 24 posts and I have found the one pertaining to “body occultation “. I have put it through google translate and it’s pretty clear to me that this law is about corpses that have already been legally buried or disposed of, not ones belonging to individuals who have mysteriously gone missing. Here it is:
Desecration of corpse or burial place
1 - Who:
a) Without authorization of the right person, to subtract, destroy or hide corpse or part of it, or ashes
of deceased person;
b) Desecrating a corpse or part thereof, or ashes of a deceased person, by committing offensive acts
respect for the dead; or
c) Desecrate a place where a deceased person or monument stands erected in his memory, practicing
offensive acts of respect for the dead;
shall be punished with imprisonment for up to two years or with a fine of up to 240 days.
2 - The attempt is punishable
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sil got it totally wrong.. LOL..
Just what did I get wrong?
Up to two years, just as I said.
Bruce almighty.
When you are down and out, most people with common sense would give up trying to to fight.
Your choice.
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Just what did I get wrong?
Up to two years, just as I said.
Bruce almighty.
When you are down and out, most people with common sense would give up trying to to fight.
Your choice.
What did you get wrong... Just about everything... And you still don't realise
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How did your interview with The Sun go?
I haven't seen anything in the paper yet.
And I'm not holding my breath.
my reply has been deleted...
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my reply has been deleted...
OK, let's leave it at that.
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OK, let's leave it at that.
Perhaps I will ...perhaps I wont
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my reply has been deleted...
Don't you recall John asked topics like that not to be discussed.
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I refuse to believe that any police force investigating the disappearance of Madeleine MCCann would be satisfied with a confession of body “occultation “ and a resulting suspended two year sentence. Apart from the PJ that is. It beggars belief. How would it resolve the issue of how, where, when and why the child died to their satisfaction?
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I refuse to believe that any police force investigating the disappearance of Madeleine MCCann would be satisfied with a confession of body “occultation “ and a resulting suspended two year sentence. Apart from the PJ that is. It beggars belief. How would it resolve the issue of how, where, when and why the child died to their satisfaction?
It wouldn't.
That's the whole point.
In offering a 'deal' to Kate of body occultation, it makes it as clear as day that the PJ had no idea of how, where when and why MBM died. Nor where the body was.
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It wouldn't.
That's the whole point.
In offering a 'deal' to Kate of body occultation, it makes it as clear as day that the PJ had no idea of how, where when and why MBM died. Nor where the body was.
If the PJ had no idea of how where, when Madeleine Beth McCann died, why offer Kate " a deal " ?
Why Kate?
I did use Madeleine's full name, as did VS.
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It wouldn't.
That's the whole point.
In offering a 'deal' to Kate of body occultation, it makes it as clear as day that the PJ had no idea of how, where when and why MBM died. Nor where the body was.
If you read amarals book the did....amaral thought he could prove maddie died in teh apartment
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If the PJ had no idea of how where, when Madeleine Beth McCann died, why offer Kate " a deal " ?
Why Kate?
I did use Madeleine's full name, as did VS.
According to Kate's book, Matthew Oldfield shouted in anguish when it was put to him by the PJ that he had opened the window, raised the shutter, and passed Madeleine through to an accomplice.
Oldfield himself gave nothing to support this allegation, AFAIK.
The alarm was raised around 10pm when Kate declared MBM was missing.
In Gerry's check, there was still the remnants of daylight. By Matthew's non-check, there wasn't. By Kate's check there wasn't.
So why NOT check out Kate for body occultation?
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If you read amarals book the did....amaral thought he could prove maddie died in teh apartment
In Amaral's book he suggests accidental death plus body occultation.
Maximum sentence 2 years.
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According to Kate's book, Matthew Oldfield shouted in anguish when it was put to him by the PJ that he had opened the window, raised the shutter, and passed Madeleine through to an accomplice.
Oldfield himself gave nothing to support this allegation, AFAIK.
The alarm was raised around 10pm when Kate declared MBM was missing.
In Gerry's check, there was still the remnants of daylight. By Matthew's non-check, there wasn't. By Kate's check there wasn't.
So why NOT check out Kate for body occultation?
What do you mean by "check out Kate for body occupation"?
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According to Kate's book, Matthew Oldfield shouted in anguish when it was put to him by the PJ that he had opened the window, raised the shutter, and passed Madeleine through to an accomplice.
Oldfield himself gave nothing to support this allegation, AFAIK.
The alarm was raised around 10pm when Kate declared MBM was missing.
In Gerry's check, there was still the remnants of daylight. By Matthew's non-check, there wasn't. By Kate's check there wasn't.
So why NOT check out Kate for body occultation?
Who would Matt Oldfield be passing the child too? Why would this question ever be asked?
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What do you mean by "check out Kate for body occupation"?
Occultation. Please read back.
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Occultation. Please read back.
See why correct spelling is important Occupation and Occultation similar spelling totally different meanings.
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In Amaral's book he suggests accidental death plus body occultation.
Maximum sentence 2 years.
is there a necessity to prove accidental death....or is it possible just to claim it...so a prtuguese man can stab his wife to death...hide the body...suggest she died in an accident ...and get a suspended sentence...is taht how balmy the portuguese courts are
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See why correct spelling is important Occupation and Occultation similar spelling totally different meanings.
are you serious
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Occultation. Please read back.
A typing error.
Can you explain why Kate was the person offered the deal and not Gerry?
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is there a necessity to prove accidental death....or is it possible just to claim it...so a prtuguese man can stab his wife to death...hide the body...suggest she died in an accident ...and get a suspended sentence...is taht how balmy the portuguese courts are
It is not a matter of claiming it, but a matter of the PJ accepting it and then the prosecutor accepting it.
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is there a necessity to prove accidental death....or is it possible just to claim it...so a prtuguese man can stab his wife to death...hide the body...suggest she died in an accident ...and get a suspended sentence...is taht how balmy the portuguese courts are
If the PJ can't prove something more serious, how would a court find someone guilty of it? Balmy?
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A typing error.
Can you explain why Kate was the person offered the deal and not Gerry?
I did. Please re-read the post.
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If the PJ can't prove something more serious, how would a court find someone guilty of it? Balmy?
That would depend on confessions.
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I did. Please re-read the post.
They believed only Kate hid Madeleine body?
No one else helped her?
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They believed only Kate hid Madeleine body?
No one else helped her?
A wheelie bin after dark only required one person, in the darkness.
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A wheelie bin after dark only required one person, in the darkness.
And that was Kate?
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I did. Please re-read the post.
Which post are you referring to?
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It wouldn't.
That's the whole point.
In offering a 'deal' to Kate of body occultation, it makes it as clear as day that the PJ had no idea of how, where when and why MBM died. Nor where the body was.
I know that but you appear to have missed my point, which is that I don’t believe any police force worth its salt would satisfy itself with a mere two year suspended sentence for hiding a child’s body without trying to further establish the cause of death and whether or not she was a victim of manslaughter or murder. The “offer” made to Kate would tend to suggest however that that is exactly what the PJ were prepared to do, which is shameful IMO
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And that was Kate?
It's one possibility.
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I know that but you appear to have missed my point, which is that I don’t believe any police force worth its salt would satisfy itself with a mere two year suspended sentence for hiding a child’s body without trying to further establish the cause of death and whether or not she was a victim of manslaughter or murder. The “offer” made to Kate would tend to suggest however that that is exactly what the PJ were prepared to do, which is shameful IMO
While it suggests to me the PJ had no way of proving anything more serious, and they knew it. It's a point supporters seem unable to grasp.
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It's one possibility.
And the others are?
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While it suggests to me the PJ had no way of proving anything more serious, and they knew it. It's a point supporters seem unable to grasp.
But the PJ decided Kate was the person to offer the deal to?
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And the others are?
I'll stick at it's one possibility, thank you.
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But the PJ decided Kate was the person to offer the deal to?
I have explained that. I am not going to repeat my explanation time after time.
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I have explained that. I am not going to repeat my explanation time after time.
Does it make sense?
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Does it make sense?
Yes, it makes sense.
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I have explained that. I am not going to repeat my explanation time after time.
I think if it was a good explanation we would remember it. It certainly hasn't dawned on me why Amaral should put the pressure on Kate, unless he was thinking it will be easier to scare a woman rather than a man.
Yes, it makes sense.
Does it?
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I think if it was a good explanation we would remember it. It certainly hasn't dawned on me why Amaral should put the pressure on Kate, unless he was thinking it will be easier to scare a woman rather than a man.
Does it?
I have explained precisely why Kate's name might be in the frame, while Gerry's was not.
It's in the thread both before and after your query.
I suggest a bit of re-reading. I'm trying to cook at the moment.
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I have explained precisely why Kate's name might be in the frame, while Gerry's was not.
It's in the thread both before and after your query.
I suggest a bit of re-reading. I'm trying to cook at the moment.
do you mean post or thread? I call each topic in the list a "thread" http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=18.0
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do you mean post or thread? I call each topic in the list a "thread" http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=18.0
I can tell the difference between a post and a thread, thanks.
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I can tell the difference between a post and a thread, thanks.
Well would you like to explain "It's in the thread both before and after your query" to me please? It doesn't make sense to me.
Do you mean "the thread" means "this thread"?
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While it suggests to me the PJ had no way of proving anything more serious, and they knew it. It's a point supporters seem unable to grasp.
I grasp the fact (which you have confirmed) that the lazy PJ would have been quite happy to stop investigating Madeleine’s disappearance after 4 months and satisfied with a confession (completely unverifiable) of body occultation and a two year sentence. As I said: shameful. All IMO.
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I grasp the fact (which you have confirmed) that the lazy PJ would have been quite happy to stop investigating Madeleine’s disappearance after 4 months and satisfied with a confession (completely unverifiable) of body occultation and a two year sentence. As I said: shameful. All IMO.
It's hardly reasonable to search for a body that will never be found, nor to search for a live Madeleine after a confession of accidental death and body occultation, is it?
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It's hardly reasonable to search for a body that will never be found, nor to search for a live Madeleine after a confession of accidental death and body occultation, is it?
Kate's point to objecting to the Amaral theory entirely.
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Kate's point to objecting to the Amaral theory entirely.
Or she was innocent.
Or she was guilty. Just convinced after 4 months she had gotten away with it.
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Or she was innocent.
Or she was guilty. Just convinced after 4 months she had gotten away with it.
Looking at the video of her turning up for and leaving the arguido interviews- she was hardly appearing as if she had gotten away with it.
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Looking at the video of her turning up for and leaving the arguido interviews- she was hardly appearing as if she had gotten away with it.
I agree with that ... she looked shattered.
Not helped by confirmation that the police had given up on a live Madeleine.
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I agree with that ... she looked shattered.
Not helped by confirmation that the police had given up on a live Madeleine.
I have explained already why that is a misinterpretation, and unless her lawyer was a dimwit, he should have realised the police did not have sufficient evidence to charge Kate with body occultation, let alone anything more serious.
The diligencies did not stop then.
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I have explained already why that is a misinterpretation, and unless her lawyer was a dimwit, he should have realised the police did not have sufficient evidence to charge Kate with body occultation, let alone anything more serious.
The diligencies did not stop then.
I don't think The PJ are hot on having enough evidence, generally.
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I don't think The PJ are hot on having enough evidence, generally.
Whereas I think they are hot on getting enough evidence where a case is to go to trial.
I have been following a long running, current murder case. While it is fascinating, any connection to the MBM case is very limited, and we are already way-off topic.
Suffice it to say the PJ are being very diligent, and the suspects have not yet been beaten up.
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It's hardly reasonable to search for a body that will never be found, nor to search for a live Madeleine after a confession of accidental death and body occultation, is it?
It most certainly is reasonable, especially not to take the word of the confessor who may be covering up a murder, or who may have made a false confession out of fear or exhaustion or coercion meaning that the child might still be alive and/or findable.
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It most certainly is reasonable, especially not to take the word of the confessor who may be covering up a murder, or who may have made a false confession out of fear or exhaustion or coercion meaning that the child might still be alive and/or findable.
We are discussing a specific case, not some matter of principle.
The idea that Kate 'dunnit' and Madeleine was alive 4 months later is nonsense.
I have just watched the case of the Suffolk Strangler. His approach, like Kate's, was 'no comment' to question after question i.e. no confession involved.
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We are discussing a specific case, not some matter of principle.
The idea that Kate 'dunnit' and Madeleine was alive 4 months later is nonsense.
I have just watched the case of the Suffolk Strangler. His approach, like Kate's, was 'no comment' to question after question i.e. no confession involved.
We are disussing a specific case and then you refer to another case, to liken Kate to the Suffolk Strangler. &%%6
Tell me why the PJ should have accepted Kate’s confession of body occultation in order to wrap up the case after 4 months?
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We are disussing a specific case and then you refer to another case, to liken Kate to the Suffolk Strangler. &%%6
Tell me why the PJ should have accepted Kate’s confession of body occultation in order to wrap up the case after 4 months?
Because the method of disposal would have been the wheelie bins, and 4 months on a body would never have been found. Simple.
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Because the method of disposal would have been the wheelie bins, and 4 months on a body would never have been found. Simple.
is THAT in YOUR OPINION?
Or do you have some proof?
This is the stuff that malicious rumours are made of i.m.o.
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Whereas I think they are hot on getting enough evidence where a case is to go to trial.
I have been following a long running, current murder case. While it is fascinating, any connection to the MBM case is very limited, and we are already way-off topic.
Suffice it to say the PJ are being very diligent, and the suspects have not yet been beaten up.
- Like the 'evidence' that Joana C. came home to find her Mums brother having sex with her Mum … so they had to kill her?
- Like the 'evidence' that Joana C.s blood was in the fridge … yet they didn't test it and didn't even know if it was blood from a joint of meat. They bred pigs fgs. Is that evidence?
- Then there is the so called 'evidence' that Joana C.s remains were in a carrier bag, being carried by Joao, to (feed the pigs IIRC). Nobody knew what was in those bags … probably kitchen remains and slops from the family meals to feed the pigs.
Just make believe . Imagined up stuff. Disgusting
If that level of so called evidence satisfies you, SIL, thank goodness you are not a judge
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is THAT in YOUR OPINION?
Or do you have some proof?
This is the stuff that malicious rumours are made of i.m.o.
No, it's not IMO.
You need to go back to the start of my conversation with VS, where I made it very clear to guests that I was not discussing my beliefs or opinions, merely examining one possibility, concerning body occultation.
The moderators seem happy enough to let the exchange continue.
But if you consider that's not good enough, use the report to moderator button to flag it up to the moderators.
It fits in the context of the discussion thus far.
An abductor could have used the same solution to body occultation, but with the benefit of a 12 year head-start rather than 4 months.
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- Like the 'evidence' that Joana C. came home to find her Mums brother having sex with her Mum … so they had to kill her?
- Like the 'evidence' that Joana C.s blood was in the fridge … yet they didn't test it and didn't even know if it was blood from a joint of meat. They bred pigs fgs. Is that evidence?
- Then there is the so called 'evidence' that Joana C.s remains were in a carrier bag, being carried by Joao, to (feed the pigs IIRC). Nobody knew what was in those bags … probably kitchen remains and slops from the family meals to feed the pigs.
Just make believe . Imagined up stuff. Disgusting
If that level of so called evidence satisfies you, SIL, thank goodness you are not a judge
Its the real world sadie,There a school of thought that Charlenne Downes body was cut up and served as kebab,its been on Channel 5 over three nights this week,there are wicked people out there.
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No, it's not IMO.
You need to go back to the start of my conversation with VS, where I made it very clear to guests that I was not discussing my beliefs or opinions, merely examining one possibility, concerning body occultation.
The moderators seem happy enough to let the exchange continue.
But if you consider that's not good enough, use the report to moderator button to flag it up to the moderators.
It fits in the context of the discussion thus far.
An abductor could have used the same solution to body occultation, but with the benefit of a 12 year head-start rather than 4 months.
A days head start is all that was needed imo.
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- Like the 'evidence' that Joana C. came home to find her Mums brother having sex with her Mum … so they had to kill her?
- Like the 'evidence' that Joana C.s blood was in the fridge … yet they didn't test it and didn't even know if it was blood from a joint of meat. They bred pigs fgs. Is that evidence?
- Then there is the so called 'evidence' that Joana C.s remains were in a carrier bag, being carried by Joao, to (feed the pigs IIRC). Nobody knew what was in those bags … probably kitchen remains and slops from the family meals to feed the pigs.
Just make believe . Imagined up stuff. Disgusting
If that level of so called evidence satisfies you, SIL, thank goodness you are not a judge
Again, you have got entirely the wrong end of the stick, so I would be grateful if you read the conversation, rather taking posts out of context.
I am not au fait with the Cipriano case, therefore I am not willing to discuss it.
The case I mentioned was a current murder case, as I made clear, about which a lot has been published, and the evidence shows that the PJ have been very diligent.
I would also be grateful if you cut your insult.
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Because the method of disposal would have been the wheelie bins, and 4 months on a body would never have been found. Simple.
both of your points are assumptions and neither explains why the police should accept the confessor’s account as the truth of the matter without any further investigation.
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both of your points are assumptions and neither explains why the police should accept the confessor’s account as the truth of the matter without any further investigation.
Corrie McKeague.
Maleah Davis.
No evidence in MBM's case that would have stood up in court.
That's why Kate's lawyer was asked to explain that in Portugal body occultation is punishable by 2 years max, which in most instances is suspended.
Voamos em contramão. We're going round in circles.
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Corrie McKeague.
Maleah Davis.
No evidence in MBM's case that would have stood up in court.
That's why Kate's lawyer was asked to explain that in Portugal body occultation is punishable by 2 years max, which in most instances is suspended.
Voamos em contramão. We're going round in circles.
Yes we are because of your steadfast defence of the PJ in this matter and my contention that only an incompetent and / or lazy police force would be so eager to abandon an investigation into the disappearance of a young child as a result of the unsupported confession of the child’s mother. Where is Gerry in all this? Not guilty of anything at all if the confession leaves him out of it!
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Yes we are because of your steadfast defence of the PJ in this matter and my contention that only an incompetent and / or lazy police force would be so eager to abandon an investigation into the disappearance of a young child as a result of the unsupported confession of the child’s mother. Where is Gerry in all this? Not guilty of anything at all if the confession leaves him out of it!
Correct, but so what?
Don't you believe Kate's book, where Gerry would be free if she confessed to body occultation?
Gerry was poorly placed to carry a body to the wheelie bins, because it was not dark when he did his check. Kate's check was done in the dark.
There was no evidence that would stand up in court of anything worse than accidental death followed by body occultation.
Your flogging a dead horse, IMO.
You've had your say. I've had mine. It's time to move on.
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Correct, but so what?
Don't you believe Kate's book, where Gerry would be free if she confessed to body occultation?
Gerry was poorly placed to carry a body to the wheelie bins, because it was not dark when he did his check. Kate's check was done in the dark.
There was no evidence that would stand up in court of anything worse than accidental death followed by body occultation.
Your flogging a dead horse, IMO.
You've had your say. I've had mine. It's time to move on.
Yes let’s leave our “guests” to form their own opinions about a judicial system that is happy to wrap things up neatly without having to bust a gut for too long because it’s seemingly too hard to find out what really happened.
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Yes let’s leave our “guests” to form their own opinions about a judicial system that is happy to wrap things up neatly without having to bust a gut for too long because it’s seemingly too hard to find out what really happened.
Since you have clearly declined my offer to let it rest, let me respond to your obvious nonsense.
Ben Needham. Should the police give up or should they continue to throw resources at the case?
Corrie McKeague. Should they call a halt or should they throw more resources at the case?
Madeleine McCann. Should the police continue ad infinitum, or should they cease if they ran out of leads?
The scenario reached is simple. No evidence to prove if Madeleine was abducted or not. And a relatively easy method of body occultation. Should Kate confess to body occultation are you seriously suggesting the police should home in on Gerry?
Not even Kate was suggesting that one.
As you are fond of saying - bizarre!
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Since you have clearly declined my offer to let it rest, let me respond to your obvious nonsense.
Ben Needham. Should the police give up or should they continue to throw resources at the case?
Corrie McKeague. Should they call a halt or should they throw more resources at the case?
Madeleine McCann. Should the police continue ad infinitum, or should they cease if they ran out of leads?
The scenario reached is simple. No evidence to prove if Madeleine was abducted or not. And a relatively easy method of body occultation. Should Kate confess to body occultation are you seriously suggesting the police should home in on Gerry?
Not even Kate was suggesting that one.
As you are fond of saying - bizarre!
I thought they had essentially given up -voiced an opinion of what they thought probably happened and then not another peep from them.
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Its the real world sadie,There a school of thought that Charlenne Downes body was cut up and served as kebab,its been on Channel 5 over three nights this week,there are wicked people out there.
That has been proven by several people on here over the past years imo
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Corrie McKeague.
Maleah Davis.
No evidence in MBM's case that would have stood up in court.
That's why Kate's lawyer was asked to explain that in Portugal body occultation is punishable by 2 years max, which in most instances is suspended.
Voamos em contramão. We're going round in circles.
Am I the only one who bridles at the sobriquet "MBM"?
Sounds like a product or a slogan rather than a name for a dearly loved child to me and more like an exercise to depersonalise.
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Since you have clearly declined my offer to let it rest, let me respond to your obvious nonsense.
Ben Needham. Should the police give up or should they continue to throw resources at the case?
Corrie McKeague. Should they call a halt or should they throw more resources at the case?
Madeleine McCann. Should the police continue ad infinitum, or should they cease if they ran out of leads?
The scenario reached is simple. No evidence to prove if Madeleine was abducted or not. And a relatively easy method of body occultation. Should Kate confess to body occultation are you seriously suggesting the police should home in on Gerry?
Not even Kate was suggesting that one.
As you are fond of saying - bizarre!
Of the cases you mentioned which police force decided to throw in the towel after 4 months? What I find bizarre is your tolerance for a police force lacking in any desire to get to the truth.
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Since you have clearly declined my offer to let it rest, let me respond to your obvious nonsense.
Ben Needham. Should the police give up or should they continue to throw resources at the case?
Corrie McKeague. Should they call a halt or should they throw more resources at the case?
Madeleine McCann. Should the police continue ad infinitum, or should they cease if they ran out of leads?
The scenario reached is simple. No evidence to prove if Madeleine was abducted or not. And a relatively easy method of body occultation. Should Kate confess to body occultation are you seriously suggesting the police should home in on Gerry?
Not even Kate was suggesting that one.
As you are fond of saying - bizarre!
I think the point is that the options have not run out as far as Madeleine's case is concerned vis-à-vis the two active police investigations still underway with the Judicial police assigning more personnel to it.
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Am I the only one who bridles at the sobriquet "MBM"?
Sounds like a product or a slogan rather than a name for a dearly loved child to me and more like an exercise to depersonalise.
Should I bridle at SIL?
Should VS bridle at VS?
Should Cheeky bridle at CM because it matches up with Clarence M?
But feel free to suggest your umbrage to John. And please feel free to bridle as you choose.
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Should I bridle at SIL?
Should VS bridle at VS?
Should Cheeky bridle at CM because it matches up with Clarence M?
But feel free to suggest your umbrage to John. And please feel free to bridle as you choose.
Most certainly - IMO.
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Should I bridle at SIL?
Should VS bridle at VS?
Should Cheeky bridle at CM because it matches up with Clarence M?
But feel free to suggest your umbrage to John. And please feel free to bridle as you choose.
Is Shining In Luz your real name?
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Am I the only one who bridles at the sobriquet "MBM"?
Sounds like a product or a slogan rather than a name for a dearly loved child to me and more like an exercise to depersonalise.
I have only recently become aware of its use.
is it an innovation?
If so ... why? what is wrong with Madeleine's name that it has been replaced with her initials?
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Am I the only one who bridles at the sobriquet "MBM"?
Sounds like a product or a slogan rather than a name for a dearly loved child to me and more like an exercise to depersonalise.
No you are not!
I've noted the frequent use of the initials of her name and did do a post back to a poster who uses those initials.
I agree it's a very depersonalisation way to refer to a child.
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Is Shining In Luz your real name?
Is Vertigo Swirl your real name, VS?
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Is Vertigo Swirl your real name, VS?
Actually yes it is. Please don’t disrespect me by referring to me as VS. It’s Ms Swirl to you if you don’t mind.
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I have only recently become aware of its use.
is it an innovation?
If so ... why? what is wrong with Madeleine's name that it has been replaced with her initials?
It has been used on this forum for years. You will quite probably find it dates to before I joined.
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Is Vertigo Swirl your real name, VS?
Okay. Cut this argument now. These names are Internet Pseudonyms.
The child's name is Madeleine, but I have no power to insist that this is used. Spoil it if you must.
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Is Vertigo Swirl your real name, VS?
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None of us post under our real names.
I've no objection to my user name here being reduced to any shortened version nor do I imagine that any poster would object to being addressed in a reduced manner.
However the name of a missing child should never, ever in my opinion be reduced to initial letters.
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Should I bridle at SIL?
Should VS bridle at VS?
Should Cheeky bridle at CM because it matches up with Clarence M?
But feel free to suggest your umbrage to John. And please feel free to bridle as you choose.
I didn't notice any gut wrenching bridling at the parents who constantly called for people to look for a' little girl' or saying to news reporters 'a little girl' is missing- That really infuriated me. Talk about distancing yourself from the real victim in this whole sorry scenario.
One would argue that MBM is indeed a product, a cash cow for the greedy. As Brietta has opined about how much money everyone has made from A little girls disappearance- in particular Sr Amaral. we are not allowed to say also the parents because that is different they used that fund for... searching $6(&
This will get deleted LOL (&^&
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It has been used on this forum for years. You will quite probably find it dates to before I joined.
Just another opportunity for the 'holier than thou' brigade to claim the high ground.
Not that it matters as MBM is not around to complain about its use.
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I didn't notice any gut wrenching bridling at the parents who constantly called for people to look for a' little girl' or saying to news reporters 'a little girl' is missing- That really infuriated me. Talk about distancing yourself from the real victim in this whole sorry scenario.
One would argue that MBM is indeed a product, a cash cow for the greedy. As Brietta has opined about how much money everyone has made from A little girls disappearance- in particular Sr Amaral. we are not allowed to say also the parents because that is different they used that fund for... searching $6(&
This will get deleted LOL (&^&
I hope not!
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Just another opportunity for the 'holier than thou' brigade to claim the high ground.
Not that it matters as MBM is not around to complain about its use.
Can you clarify what you mean by " the holier than thou brigade"?
It's an expression which you frequently use.
Neither is Sara Payne nor Ben Needham or Jamie Bulger but I assume you would refer to those children by just their initials.
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Just another opportunity for the 'holier than thou' brigade to claim the high ground.
Not that it matters as MBM is not around to complain about its use.
Oh ya just gotta laff...
Getting offended by calling someone by their initials is offensive- but leaving her alone everynight as the main childminder of her baby siblings - to be abducted by a gang of paedophiles to a fate we can't speak of...yeah I GET the point -Not!
Interesting what MBM would make of her name being used like this- but if you lot want to take offence on her behalf... go to it - knock your self out!
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Oh ya just gotta laff...
Getting offended by calling someone by their initials is offensive- but leaving her alone everynight as the main childminder of her baby siblings - to be abducted by a gang of paedophiles to a fate we can't speak of...yeah I GET the point -Not!
Interesting what MBM would make of her name being used like this- but if you lot want to take offence on her behalf... go to it - knock your self out!
I happen to have 3 parts to my real name.
If I got abducted or worse, and a forum was established re my case, would I find the use of my real TLA offensive?
What nonsense!
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I happen to have 3 parts to my real name.
If I got abducted or worse, and a forum was established re my case, would I find the use of my real TLA offensive?
What nonsense!
IF it ever happens I WILL ensure the supporters give you your proper title. 8(>(( I am not a miss (as my forum name says) I am a Married and My Title is Dr. oh dear I am truely offended...
I must insist SIL and Jass bow before me when I enter the forum. .. out of shear respect @)(++(*
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You are not alone.
MTI is sure good at making a diagnosis, or at least a stab in the dark.
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MTI is sure good at making a diagnosis, or at least a stab in the dark.
Ya, absolutely.
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John, could you please remove the gaoding posts especially the ones from Mods. Thank you. OR allow me to challenge their motivations,nasty remarks on a thread discussing a missing child,without having my reply deleted.
Many thanks!
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John, could you please remove the gaoding posts especially the ones from Mods. Thank you. OR allow me to challenge their motivations,nasty remarks on a thread discussing a missing child,without having my reply deleted.
Many thanks!
What’s up? Have you heard of PMs? And I don’t mean Prime Ministers. Send one to John and he may grant your wish to challenge all the nasty mods on here without having your posts doctored.
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Some posts have been unnecessarily aggressive and combative recently which is not conducive to constructive debate. By all means promote opinion and explore theories as long as such are based on facts and accepted understanding.
Finally, please keep posts amicable and informative at all times. TY.
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The Prime Minister of Portugal, António Costa, is reported to be currently recharging his batteries on a beach in the Algarve, accompanied by a lady whose name I do not recognise.
https://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/antonio-costa-na-praia-com-a-mulher?ref=HP_OutrasNoticias1
Apart from the woman's name, there's little to see unless you are interested in the PM's beachwear.
But guess what they ate for lunch. CdM reports them as sardine-munchers.
&^^&*
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The Prime Minister of Portugal, António Costa, is reported to be currently recharging his batteries on a beach in the Algarve, accompanied by a lady whose name I do not recognise.
https://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/antonio-costa-na-praia-com-a-mulher?ref=HP_OutrasNoticias1
Apart from the woman's name, there's little to see unless you are interested in the PM's beachwear.
But guess what they ate for lunch. CdM reports them as sardine-munchers.
&^^&*
Sounds a bit fishy to me.. 8(0(*
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WARNING!
Some of the language that has been used recently towards members and moderators is totally unacceptable and has resulted in at least one temporary ban. Regular posters are very well aware of the forum rules so I shouldn't need to have to keep reminding of them. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion here but it must be done respectfully, there can be no exceptions.
A challenge, let's try and get through today without the need for any moderation. TY
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I know that Scotland is very definitely not the Algarve, but this short clip is pertinent.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-scotland-48636858/my-life-is-dominated-by-lyme-disease
Dogs get ticks. We check Gonçalo after his every walk in the countryside to make sure he is free from ticks.
In most instances, ticks on the Algarve do not transmit Lyme Disease.
However, I have heard in my time here of two people dying from Lyme Disease, because they did not recognise it and they did not get it treated. Staff at Portimão hospital were distraught, because if caught early on, Lyme Disease responds well to antibiotics.
The warning siren that we have here is walking in areas inhabited by deer. It appears deer can be reservoirs for Lyme Disease.
Perhaps the same occurs in Scotland?
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As another weekend approaches can I ask everyone to please follow the forum rules. The hard pressed moderators do an excellent job in keeping things moving so do consider them next time you feel you need to have a go at someone.
Let's try and set a new record this weekend by drastically cutting the number of moderated posts. As an incentive, the prize for the member whose has the most posts moderated/deleted over Saturday and Sunday will be a two day ban.
Happy posting!
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There are reports coming in both in English and Portuguese of a scrubland fire near Alzejur on the Algarve.
https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/cinco-meios-aereos-combatem-fogo-em-aljezur?ref=HP_PrimeirosDestaques
There is also a report of another fire, much nearer to Lisbon.
We had a lot of smoke this afternoon, enough that you could not only smell it but you could visibly see it in the air.
I checked outside and a bright yellow, quite small aeroplane flew over us from Lagos airstrip, consistent with a course heading for Alzejur.
The smoke and smell has now cleared up.
The CdM report says 7 air teams were deployed. One featured was bright yellow, but I don't know if it is 'ours'.
Alzejur was a holiday choice of preference for David Cameron. The last I heard, it still is.
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There is a tanker drivers' strike underway in Portugal. It affects the whole of the country, but the Beeb does pick out the Algarve for special mention re the tourist industry.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49330000
The tanker drivers are reputedly 'specialists' for driving dangerous cargoes. I haven't a clue as to the driving qualifications of the police and soldier replacements.
I can attest to the existence of long queues at petrol stations in Lagos, just to get 15l of fuel.
Sines is about halfway between the Algarve and Lisbon. I have never visited. It looks quite picturesque, not refinery territory.
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There is a tanker drivers' strike underway in Portugal. It affects the whole of the country, but the Beeb does pick out the Algarve for special mention re the tourist industry.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49330000
The tanker drivers are reputedly 'specialists' for driving dangerous cargoes. I haven't a clue as to the driving qualifications of the police and soldier replacements.
I can attest to the existence of long queues at petrol stations in Lagos, just to get 15l of fuel.
Sines is about halfway between the Algarve and Lisbon. I have never visited. It looks quite picturesque, not refinery territory.
We are now being told that the tanker drivers strike has been extended from 2 days to 10.
There is nothing coming through about whether there is a contingency plan, eg for emergency services (police, ambulance, fire), hospitals, electricity, food deliveries to shops and supermarkets, removal of rubbish.
I've got no idea what is happening with bottled gas, which is in widespread use on the Algarve. Block 6 seems to have a giant gas tank in its car park.
Likewise, I've got no idea if taxis and buses get special treatment.
August is normally a month in which public services shut down and people go on holiday. Hmmm. Maybe the tanker drivers are topping up sun tans?
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We are now being told that the tanker drivers strike has been extended from 2 days to 10.
There is nothing coming through about whether there is a contingency plan, eg for emergency services (police, ambulance, fire), hospitals, electricity, food deliveries to shops and supermarkets, removal of rubbish.
I've got no idea what is happening with bottled gas, which is in widespread use on the Algarve. Block 6 seems to have a giant gas tank in its car park.
Likewise, I've got no idea if taxis and buses get special treatment.
August is normally a month in which public services shut down and people go on holiday. Hmmm. Maybe the tanker drivers are topping up sun tans?
I used to work for an oil company. When we had a strike I was lucky enough to be allowed to get petrol from their service stations.
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Thomas Cook entered administration today
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49791249
When Mark Warner pulled out of the Ocean Club, Thomas Cook stepped in. I don't know what has happened in the interim. But it would appear the Ocean Club is now as viable as the Titanic.
I also don't know how this will affect Luz in general, because I can only guess how much money and time OC guests spent outside the OC.
Those OC staff who were bitter at losing their jobs the year after Madeleine disappeared may now be seeing things differently. They have had since 2008 to rebuild their lives.
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Thomas Cook entered administration today
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49791249
When Mark Warner pulled out of the Ocean Club, Thomas Cook stepped in. I don't know what has happened in the interim. But it would appear the Ocean Club is now as viable as the Titanic.
I also don't know how this will affect Luz in general, because I can only guess how much money and time OC guests spent outside the OC.
Those OC staff who were bitter at losing their jobs the year after Madeleine disappeared may now be seeing things differently. They have had since 2008 to rebuild their lives.
Is there any evidence that Madeleine McCann's disappearance in 2007 had any more effect than the worldwide financial crisis had on jobs in Luz?
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Is there any evidence that Madeleine McCann's disappearance in 2007 had any more effect than the worldwide financial crisis had on jobs in Luz?
According to Mark Warner, yes re the OC.
Whilst Luz was affected by the financial crisis, it did not suffer on the scale of the OC redundancies.
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Thomas Cook entered administration today
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49791249
When Mark Warner pulled out of the Ocean Club, Thomas Cook stepped in. I don't know what has happened in the interim. But it would appear the Ocean Club is now as viable as the Titanic.
I also don't know how this will affect Luz in general, because I can only guess how much money and time OC guests spent outside the OC.
Those OC staff who were bitter at losing their jobs the year after Madeleine disappeared may now be seeing things differently. They have had since 2008 to rebuild their lives.
Not just the Ocean Club, but the Algarve will be affected;
According to the Algarve’s hotel association boss Elidérico Viegas, the region could lose “millions of euros”.
https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/09/23/algarve-to-lose-millions-of-euros-as-thomas-cook-travel-firm-collapses/
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Not just the Ocean Club, but the Algarve will be affected;
According to the Algarve’s hotel association boss Elidérico Viegas, the region could lose “millions of euros”.
https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/09/23/algarve-to-lose-millions-of-euros-as-thomas-cook-travel-firm-collapses/
They ain’t seen nothing yet. Wait till a no deal Brexit takes hold.
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Karma anyone?
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I imagine the Algarve will be a much pleasanter place without the British horde.
I've no doubt other Europeans will replace them in due course.
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I imagine the Algarve will be a much pleasanter place without the British horde.
I've no doubt other Europeans will replace them in due course.
Yeah, how pleased everyone in The Algarve will be when there are no gruesome Brits abandoning their babies, falling off hotel balconies, driving the wrong way down the motorways and spending all their revolting holiday money on hotels, food and booze.
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Karma anyone?
I prefer tea.
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Snippets of news about changes in Luz.
Chaplin's has been sold. It is now a Japanese restaurant.
The proprietor who ran Chaplin's has opened an alternative in Lagos. At this point in time, it appears to be an unsophisticated burger bar, but we have received a recommendation for it, so it is on our 'to eat' list.
One of the Indian restaurants just south of the church has been sold, but it appears to have been replaced by a new Indian restaurant.
Basically, the number of people with first hand knowledge of Luz in 2007 is decreasing as people die or move away.
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Snippets of news about changes in Luz.
Chaplin's has been sold. It is now a Japanese restaurant.
The proprietor who ran Chaplin's has opened an alternative in Lagos. At this point in time, it appears to be an unsophisticated burger bar, but we have received a recommendation for it, so it is on our 'to eat' list.
One of the Indian restaurants just south of the church has been sold, but it appears to have been replaced by a new Indian restaurant.
Basically, the number of people with first hand knowledge of Luz in 2007 is decreasing as people die or move away.
With it one imagines (if there indeed was) interest of the McCann affair registers zero.
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Snippets of news about changes in Luz.
Chaplin's has been sold. It is now a Japanese restaurant.
The proprietor who ran Chaplin's has opened an alternative in Lagos. At this point in time, it appears to be an unsophisticated burger bar, but we have received a recommendation for it, so it is on our 'to eat' list.
One of the Indian restaurants just south of the church has been sold, but it appears to have been replaced by a new Indian restaurant.
Basically, the number of people with first hand knowledge of Luz in 2007 is decreasing as people die or move away.
My father, grandfather and uncle have all visited Portugal over the years for the golf. They have never encountered any criminality. They have commented on the 'roudy NEDS' from the UK.
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My father, grandfather and uncle have all visited Portugal over the years for the golf. They have never encountered any criminality. They have commented on the 'roudy NEDS' from the UK.
Is Portugal " NED" free?
No criminality at all?
All law abiding citizens?
Sounds idyllic.
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Is Portugal " NED" free?
No criminality at all?
All law abiding citizens?
Sounds idyllic.
What does NED stand for? Nasty English Degenerate?
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What does NED stand for? Nasty English Degenerate?
I'm not too sure what "NED" stands for.
However the rowdy NEDS in Portugal are from the UK.
Therefore not just English NEDS but Scottish NEDS , Welsh NEDS and Northern Irish NEDS!
No Portuguese NEDS obviously!
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I'm not too sure what "NED" stands for.
However the rowdy NEDS in Portugal are from the UK.
Therefore not just English NEDS but Scottish NEDS , Welsh NEDS and Northern Irish NEDS!
No Portuguese NEDS obviously!
Of course not, the Portuguese are simply the last word in manners, grace, humilty, intelligence and all round gorgeousness.
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I'm not too sure what "NED" stands for.
However the rowdy NEDS in Portugal are from the UK.
Therefore not just English NEDS but Scottish NEDS , Welsh NEDS and Northern Irish NEDS!
No Portuguese NEDS obviously!
NED is, apparently, a Scottish term meaning non educated delinquent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_(Scottish)
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https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/mccann-parents-taking-legal-action-against-portugal/52927?fbclid=IwAR0qIluqPbUCM53gpqN7oG7ooNvRpSdw86kGKuglJhGlxHgRGlMj9XiGB1M
McCann parents taking legal action against Portugal.
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Three minor developments in Luz 2020.
The Japanese restaurant that was Chaplins has failed after a single season. I never visited it personally, but it was reported to be mediocre. That's a sure fire recipe for death, as one can partake of better in Lagos. The word on the street is that it will open this season as a Tapas Restaurant. I'm going to have to get into that quick. That idea will last for just a season before the venture folds. It's a wrong business model in a wrong location.
Speaking of Chaplins, a visit to that lady's new venture in Lagos is high on our must-visit list. Beaches are filling up fast now, so places that are a little off the beaten track are rising to the top of our to-do list.
We made enquiries about the derelict property directly opposite the church in Luz. It has potential for a small morning-only take-away, because of the pedestrian traffic and ample car parking. There we hit a brick wall. It was bought 3 or 4 years back by an Englishman for €400,000 and he wants to make a profit from it. One can turn that site into a business, but I'll be dead long before it makes money.
The Galley, known in MBM's day as The Well, is also changing. It is to become a Thai/Malaysian restaurant. I would also predict that will fail within a year. The Galley flogs expensive British food to Brits (mainly) on the back of its major asset. It has an absolutely stunning view over the sea. Of course, that's useless in the evening, or when it's cold, or when it rains.
Chaplins, aka the Luz Japanese, almost certainly employed no Japanese staff. The Galley, aka the Thai/Malaysian will probably never have a Thai/Malay chef. Wrong offering in the wrong location, so I'm going for 1 season max.
Outside of Luz, the Brasilian to the east of Luz has a sign up, saying it is closed. At the moment, I have not worked out whether that is for winter, or whether it it is permanent.
There you have 4 small stories of MBM Luz 2007. The scandal at Chaplins. The body in the disintegrating lot opposite the church. OG tucking in to a Brasilian in 2014. The mysterious passageways under Luz that only the children know about.
You can do a pub crawl in Luz, if that is your inclination. At the moment, I am thinking of a food trawl. I could as fat as a pig by the end of the season.
Whoops, the Pig's Head. Yet another story.
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Three minor developments in Luz 2020.
The Japanese restaurant that was Chaplins has failed after a single season. I never visited it personally, but it was reported to be mediocre. That's a sure fire recipe for death, as one can partake of better in Lagos. The word on the street is that it will open this season as a Tapas Restaurant. I'm going to have to get into that quick. That idea will last for just a season before the venture folds. It's a wrong business model in a wrong location.
Speaking of Chaplins, a visit to that lady's new venture in Lagos is high on our must-visit list. Beaches are filling up fast now, so places that are a little off the beaten track are rising to the top of our to-do list.
We made enquiries about the derelict property directly opposite the church in Luz. It has potential for a small morning-only take-away, because of the pedestrian traffic and ample car parking. There we hit a brick wall. It was bought 3 or 4 years back by an Englishman for €400,000 and he wants to make a profit from it. One can turn that site into a business, but I'll be dead long before it makes money.
The Galley, known in MBM's day as The Well, is also changing. It is to become a Thai/Malaysian restaurant. I would also predict that will fail within a year. The Galley flogs expensive British food to Brits (mainly) on the back of its major asset. It has an absolutely stunning view over the sea. Of course, that's useless in the evening, or when it's cold, or when it rains.
Chaplins, aka the Luz Japanese, almost certainly employed no Japanese staff. The Galley, aka the Thai/Malaysian will probably never have a Thai/Malay chef. Wrong offering in the wrong location, so I'm going for 1 season max.
Outside of Luz, the Brasilian to the east of Luz has a sign up, saying it is closed. At the moment, I have not worked out whether that is for winter, or whether it it is permanent.
There you have 4 small stories of MBM Luz 2007. The scandal at Chaplins. The body in the disintegrating lot opposite the church. OG tucking in to a Brasilian in 2014. The mysterious passageways under Luz that only the children know about.
You can do a pub crawl in Luz, if that is your inclination. At the moment, I am thinking of a food trawl. I could as fat as a pig by the end of the season.
Whoops, the Pig's Head. Yet another story.
Thank you SIL. I remember Chaplins as being a pleasant lively restaurant with very passable food. Shame that has gone.
The derelict property directly opposite the church in Luz is in an amazing location and i am not suprised at the price that was paid tbh. Standing in the centre of Luz, on a small cliff top and next to the Forteleza da Luz, opposite the pretty church and with amazingly panoramic views of the ocean and coast line from both the back and from the front, it shouts out as being way the best plot in Luz. Also a quiet beach below, down some near hidden steps must make it the quietest and most private beach in Luz. All it needs now is a private passageway down thru the cliffs to the quiet beach below ... and I wonder if it is there already, but completely hidden?
When I went down the near hidden steps behind The Bull there was a paved flat area half way down, near the Fonteleza and the back wall of the garden of the derelict property, and it had collapsed immediately adjacent to that wall. I decided not to go too close to this big hole, but I could see a big cave like void inside.
Did this connect to the beach ? And to the opening into the cliffs off the beach below, that the brave ex soldiers Colin Sahlke and Stephen Taylor so caringly and generously explored in an effort to try and find Madeleine ?
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id340.htm
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/sitebuilderpictures/sahlketaylorsearch8.jpg
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If the garden to the derelict house does connect to the private beach tunnel, then Gawd only knows how much that derelict house with all its positional advantages would be worth ? Apart from its charms think how that (and maybe has been?) private route up could be used for nefarious gain. Trafficking and drug running to name a couple.
To me the strange thing is that this entrance from the beach, which it seems runs underground to the nearby collapse was blocked off some years after Madeleine disappeared and so successfully disguised that our master slueth * Heriberto * did not recognise that a tunnel had ever been there at the time he searched. The entrance, seen in the photo, had been filled in so cleverly that there as no sign of a tunnel there. It was a very convincing professional hiding of the tunnel. I wonder why?
Why the subterfuge?
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https://eco.sapo.pt/2020/03/05/ha-mais-dois-casos-de-coronavirus-em-portugal-sao-oito-os-infetados-em-portugal/
As of 4 March, Portugal has 8 people in hospital with coronavirus. 6 are in Porto (basically the north of the country) and 2 are in Lisbon (basically the middle of the country).
I am tracking the spread of cases in Portugal, because at the moment we have 5 high-risk individuals in our house.
I don't have details of all the origins of infections, but one source seems to be holidays in Northern Italy, while there are instances of person-to-person infection.
81 people are being monitored, with 117 on the suspect list.
I was hoping that the warmer weather we already have in Portugal would limit the spread of the virus, but that does not seem to be the case.
There are no reported cases on the Algarve as yet. However, there is traditionally are a large uptick in holidaymakers from Porto and Lisbon around the holidays of 25th of April and 1st of May, in Luz and Lagos (and presumably in other holiday choices on the Algarve) so it looks like it is just a matter of time.
The authorities have not declared a state of emergency. I haven't yet heard of schools being closed or sporting events being cancelled.
The only noticeable sign on the Algarve at the moment is that supermarkets are running low on 'emergency' medical products. This could become an issue because many supermarkets are notoriously slow at replenishing goods which run out of stock.
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https://eco.sapo.pt/2020/03/05/ha-mais-dois-casos-de-coronavirus-em-portugal-sao-oito-os-infetados-em-portugal/
As of 4 March, Portugal has 8 people in hospital with coronavirus. 6 are in Porto (basically the north of the country) and 2 are in Lisbon (basically the middle of the country).
I am tracking the spread of cases in Portugal, because at the moment we have 5 high-risk individuals in our house.
I don't have details of all the origins of infections, but one source seems to be holidays in Northern Italy, while there are instances of person-to-person infection.
81 people are being monitored, with 117 on the suspect list.
I was hoping that the warmer weather we already have in Portugal would limit the spread of the virus, but that does not seem to be the case.
There are no reported cases on the Algarve as yet. However, there is traditionally are a large uptick in holidaymakers from Porto and Lisbon around the holidays of 25th of April and 1st of May, in Luz and Lagos (and presumably in other holiday choices on the Algarve) so it looks like it is just a matter of time.
The authorities have not declared a state of emergency. I haven't yet heard of schools being closed or sporting events being cancelled.
The only noticeable sign on the Algarve at the moment is that supermarkets are running low on 'emergency' medical products. This could become an issue because many supermarkets are notoriously slow at replenishing goods which run out of stock.
Sorry to hear that SIL, especially with 5 High risk members to the household.
The big danger to the Algarve will come, I suspect, when the holiday makers arrive en masse. I am inclined to think that hospitals and aircraft are the biggest infecters of viruses, with cruise ships and football matches etc. a close second.
Suggest that you keep clear of those pesky Brits when they arrive SIL.
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Well now. Everybody stayed out of The Food Bank waiting room this last week. But since it was all colloquial french, I didn't actually understand what they were talking about. I only speak proper French. What a bummer that can be.
However, some of us were still kissing each other because this is automatic. So, I have either got IT or not, as yet.
It is about 30 Miles up the road by now, and I am too old to laugh about this. Or not. I survived Galloping Consumption at the age of 30, so not much lung power left, despite the fact that I smoke like a bloody something or another.
Davel will hate me for this. Sorry, Smoking never caused Cancer in my family. They all lived beyond 90 and all smoked much more than I actually do.
I can only guess that Cancer grabs some people, and some it never does. Like Tuberculosis grabs some people, and others it never does
For me Tuberculosis was much more devastating. It killed my mother when I was eight years old, and she never smoked a fag in all her life.
I personally survived it, but with allergies a bit beyond.. But there you go.
Sorry. Did I say a bit too much? Sorry about that.
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Well now. Everybody stayed out of The Food Bank waiting room this last week. But since it was all colloquial french, I didn't actually understand what they were talking about. I only speak proper French. What a bummer that can be.
However, some of us were still kissing each other because this is automatic. So, I have either got IT or not, as yet.
It is about 30 Miles up the road by now, and I am too old to laugh about this. Or not. I survived Galloping Consumption at the age of 30, so not much lung power left, despite the fact that I smoke like a bloody something or another.
Davel will hate me for this. Sorry, Smoking never caused Cancer in my family. They all lived beyond 90 and all smoked much more than I actually do.
I can only guess that Cancer grabs some people, and some it never does. Like Tuberculosis grabs some people, and others it never does
For me Tuberculosis was much more devastating. It killed my mother when I was eight years old, and she never smoked a fag in all her life.
I personally survived it, but with allergies a bit beyond.. But there you go.
Sorry. Did I say a bit too much? Sorry about that.
My extended family is ginormous - aunts, uncles, cousins.
I happen to be the youngest of the whole lot, so most shuffle off the mortal coil before me.
Most of my family smoked extensively. There is only one aunt who died of cancer. I don't remember if she is related by genetics or by marriage.
In our family, we drop like flies from heart attacks and strokes.
Our family is genetically predisposed to evade cancer, but genetically predisposed to succumb to other causes. I have never smoked in my life, so I need to concern myself on other causes of my mortality.
Since this is a Madeleine forum, here is the pertinent connection. Portugal introduced a ban on smoking inside pubs, cafés and restaurants on 1 Jan 2008. This is unfortunate in the sense that if a ban had been introduced earlier, there might have been more punters outside on the streets of Luz having a fag break spotting passers-by around the time Madeleine disappeared.
Such is life.
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Well now. Everybody stayed out of The Food Bank waiting room this last week. But since it was all colloquial french, I didn't actually understand what they were talking about. I only speak proper French. What a bummer that can be.
However, some of us were still kissing each other because this is automatic. So, I have either got IT or not, as yet.
It is about 30 Miles up the road by now, and I am too old to laugh about this. Or not. I survived Galloping Consumption at the age of 30, so not much lung power left, despite the fact that I smoke like a bloody something or another.
Davel will hate me for this. Sorry, Smoking never caused Cancer in my family. They all lived beyond 90 and all smoked much more than I actually do.
I can only guess that Cancer grabs some people, and some it never does. Like Tuberculosis grabs some people, and others it never does
For me Tuberculosis was much more devastating. It killed my mother when I was eight years old, and she never smoked a fag in all her life.
I personally survived it, but with allergies a bit beyond.. But there you go.
Sorry. Did I say a bit too much? Sorry about that.
Dont worry Eleanor what you are saying is perfectly valid. But there is no doubt that smoking causes lung cancer....plus this quote...
Cigarette smoking can cause cancer almost anywhere in the body. Cigarette smoking causes cancer of the mouth and throat, esophagus, stomach, colon, rectum, liver, pancreas, voicebox (larynx), trachea, bronchus, kidney and renal pelvis, urinary bladder, and cervix, and causes acute myeloid leukemia.
That doesnt mean that everyone who smokes gets lung cancer...there are other factors .....but smoking causes lung and other cancers.
Those who wish to smoke have every right to smoke if they wish but we should make sure our children understand just how harmful smoking is and to deny it is somewhat irresponsible imo. I would imagine older people who smoke are more likely to die of corona virus
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My extended family is ginormous - aunts, uncles, cousins.
I happen to be the youngest of the whole lot, so most shuffle off the mortal coil before me.
Most of my family smoked extensively. There is only one aunt who died of cancer. I don't remember if she is related by genetics or by marriage.
In our family, we drop like flies from heart attacks and strokes.
Our family is genetically predisposed to evade cancer, but genetically predisposed to succumb to other causes. I have never smoked in my life, so I need to concern myself on other causes of my mortality.
Since this is a Madeleine forum, here is the pertinent connection. Portugal introduced a ban on smoking inside pubs, cafés and restaurants on 1 Jan 2008. This is unfortunate in the sense that if a ban had been introduced earlier, there might have been more punters outside on the streets of Luz having a fag break spotting passers-by around the time Madeleine disappeared.
Such is life.
smoking is also a causal factor in heart attacks and strokes
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One in four heavy smokers die before their 65th birthday. The average lifespan of heavy smokers (smoking more than twenty cigarettes per day) is 13 years shorter than that of non-smokers. This is the outcome of a new study by Statistics Netherlands (CBS) and the Netherlands Institute of Mental Health and Addiction (the Trimbos Institute) on the relationship between smoking and mortality.
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All this proves is you don't know how to apply statistics to either individual cases or to populations.
But feel free to continue gnawing on your bone.
&^&*%
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All this proves is you don't know how to apply statistics to either individual cases or to populations.
But feel free to continue gnawing on your bone.
&^&*%
If you understood what I have posted you would see I haven't applied any statistics I've simply quoted experts...feel free to continue to fail to understand simple facts
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All this proves is you don't know how to apply statistics to either individual cases or to populations.
But feel free to continue gnawing on your bone.
&^&*%
You’re letting your antipathy for Davel get in the way of your reason. If you don’t agree with the stats complain to Statistics Netherlands (CBS) and the Netherlands Institute of Mental Addiction. I’m 100% certain you feel more qualified to comment than either of these organisations, perhaps you should give them the benefit of your statistical expertise.
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And all that proves is that you don't understand statistics either.
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We've got our core coronavirus contingency planned steps in place today.
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And all that proves is that you don't understand statistics either.
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We've got our core coronavirus contingency planned steps in place today.
&^^&*
You've accused me of not understanding the application of statistics when I havent applied any....I think you are making a bit of a fool of yourself again.
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And all that proves is that you don't understand statistics either.
*&^^&
We've got our core coronavirus contingency planned steps in place today.
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I understand that Davel was quoting statistical information from an official stats institute, something which you don’t seem to understand at all. You been for that check up yet?
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I understand that Davel was quoting statistical information from an official stats institute, something which you don’t seem to understand at all. You been for that check up yet?
Tweedledee claims used no stats, Tweedledum claims Tweedledee used stats.
Get your stories straight T&T.
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Tweedledee claims used no stats, Tweedledum claims Tweedledee used stats.
Get your stories straight T&T.
*&(+(+
Wrong again...I said I quoted stats not applied them but we don't expect you to be able to follow the debate. As for your T and T jibe you are behaving like a child but that would be explained by your age..
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/05/smokers-risk-catching-coronavirus-12354004/
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/05/smokers-risk-catching-coronavirus-12354004/
As I alluded to earlier.
What makes me smile is that posters who claim to be open minded and evidence based show in reality they are the complete opposite.....they are simply willing to totally ignore the overwhelming evidence when it doesn't fit with their fixed mindset.
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As I alluded to earlier.
What makes me smile is that posters who claim to be open minded and evidence based show in reality they are the complete opposite.....they are simply willing to totally ignore the overwhelming evidence when it doesn't fit with their fixed mindset.
This information will be dismissed as some sort of anti-smoking conspiracy by the elites, though quite what the elites stand to gain from people stopping this filthy habit I’m not entirely sure.
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/05/smokers-risk-catching-coronavirus-12354004/
As I have said I am a lifelong non-smoker, should I waste time on this drivel? *%87
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As I have said I am a lifelong non-smoker, should I waste time on this drivel? *%87
The drivel is ignoring the overwhelming evidence and trying to pretend to that smoking doesn't cause an earlier death and multiple diseases. So no you shouldn't waste your time criticising those pointing out the truth
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As I have said I am a lifelong non-smoker, should I waste time on this drivel? *%87
I thought you had family members who smoked? BTW you are not the only person on this forum, I didn’t post it for your benefit.
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As I have said I am a lifelong non-smoker, should I waste time on this drivel? *%87
I'm also a life long non smoker but I worry a great deal about a loved family member who smokes
and will continue to point out any piece of "drivel" which may help to persuade him to stop the filthy habit.
Not hubby by the way.......And no one ever smokes in our home now.
ETA.
My mother was a heavy smoker and when she visited she did smoke in the house.
Most of the friend and family smokers have all stopped.
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I thought you had family members who smoked? BTW you are not the only person on this forum, I didn’t post it for your benefit.
Perhaps you thought it.
I need to focus on things more related to MBM.
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Perhaps you thought it.
I need to focus on things more related to MBM.
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Afew posts back, SIL, you said that family members smoked.
Cancer can be 'assisted' by secondary smoking. Breathing in the smoky fumes from other smakers breath.
My lovely cousin died at the age of 42, almost certainly caused by her Mothers' smoking ... and probably smoking work colleagues contributed to it too.
Let's hope that you are not affected. Seems that you have done pretty well so far !
Not one of my close family smoked, but work colleagues smoked like chimneys. Four of us in a tiny office. Thank goodness that I was only there for a couple of months or so.
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Perhaps you thought it.
I need to focus on things more related to MBM.
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” Most of my family smoked extensively “. Your words. Perhaps I thought what?
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” Most of my family smoked extensively “. Your words. Perhaps I thought what?
Past tense. The ones who are now dead, just not of cancer.
If you take things out of context, you get what you deserve. &^^&*
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Past tense. The ones who are now dead, just not of cancer.
If you take things out of context, you get what you deserve. &^^&*
I’m glad to hear that noone in your living family smokes, it means you are all less likely to contact the coronavirus. Now give me more of what I deserve.
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I’m glad to hear that noone in your living family smokes, it means you are all less likely to contact the coronavirus. Now give me more of what I deserve.
I take it you did not mean contact but instead meant contract. And I'm not being pedantic.
We have an extensive meeting scheduled with Mr Malinka on Monday morning. Should we cancel it?
We are already putting into place a comprehensive contingency plan, in case things deteriorate. We have even laid in Calpol in case Gonçalo catches it. Seriously.
But the plan is geared around gathering intelligence in order that we can avoid coronavirus in the first place. No contact means no contract.
We'll meet with Mr Malinka, because for the moment I rate this contact as zero risk.
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I take it you did not mean contact but instead meant contract. And I'm not being pedantic.
We have an extensive meeting scheduled with Mr Malinka on Monday morning. Should we cancel it?
We are already putting into place a comprehensive contingency plan, in case things deteriorate. We have even laid in Calpol in case Gonçalo catches it. Seriously.
But the plan is geared around gathering intelligence in order that we can avoid coronavirus in the first place. No contact means no contract.
We'll meet with Mr Malinka, because for the moment I rate this contact as zero risk.
Enjoy your extensive meeting with Mr Malinka and make sure you don’t give Goncalo an overdose of Calpol - you don’t want him falling off the sofa to his death and you then having to find a suitable bin in which to dispose his body.
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Enjoy your extensive meeting with Mr Malinka and make sure you don’t give Goncalo an overdose of Calpol - you don’t want him falling off the sofa to his death and you then having to find a suitable bin in which to dispose his body.
Bitter, jaundiced, semi-intelligible.
You sum yourself up perfectly.
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Bitter, jaundiced, semi-intelligible.
You sum yourself up perfectly.
Not my words, The General’s ad homs, now endorsed by yourself. Keep the abuse coming, you know I love it.
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I take it you did not mean contact but instead meant contract. And I'm not being pedantic.
We have an extensive meeting scheduled with Mr Malinka on Monday morning. Should we cancel it?
We are already putting into place a comprehensive contingency plan, in case things deteriorate. We have even laid in Calpol in case Gonçalo catches it. Seriously.
But the plan is geared around gathering intelligence in order that we can avoid coronavirus in the first place. No contact means no contract.
We'll meet with Mr Malinka, because for the moment I rate this contact as zero risk.
Please do not give your dog any human medication without first consulting a vet. Paracetamol can be harmful to dogs.
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Bitter, jaundiced, semi-intelligible.
You sum yourself up perfectly.
Oh dear SIL.
You have really let yourself down with those totally undeserved words.
Can you not recognise such a simple joke? Even Amaral himself would probably fall off the sofa laughing at thst comment by VS.
Hilarious ... and it shows a clever mind to have thought of it. Well done VS
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Oh dear SIL.
You have really let yourself down with those totally undeserved words.
Can you not recognise such a simple joke? Even Amaral himself would probably fall off the sofa laughing at thst comment by VS.
Hilarious ... and it shows a clever mind to have thought of it. Well done VS
Whereas I would rate VS's post as the .........t of the year so far.
Zero out of ten. But it doesn't surprise me.
That 3 people like the idea that my dog should die tells me a lot.
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Whereas I would rate VS's post as the .........t of the year so far.
Zero out of ten. But it doesn't surprise me.
That 3 people like the idea that my dog should die tells me a lot.
You clearly have no sense of humour. No one likes the idea of your dog dying, it was a joke for crying out loud. I do find the idea of you giving Calpol to your dog slightly absurd tbh but there was nothing bitter, jaundiced or semi-intelligible about my post, unlike yours! Oh, and you found my post more nasty than Spam’s wishing the McCanns a long “grizzly” death? Well that tells me everything I need to know.
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You clearly have no sense of humour. No one likes the idea of your dog dying, it was a joke for crying out loud. I do find the idea of you giving Calpol to your dog slightly absurd tbh but there was nothing bitter, jaundiced or semi-intelligible about my post, unlike yours! Oh, and you found my post more nasty than Spam’s wishing the McCanns a long “grizzly” death? Well that tells me everything I need to know.
The virus is today confirmed in the Algarve, close by in Portimão. Two schools have closed as a result.
So no, I don't appreciate your lame excuse that it was meant to be humour.
I found it particularly offensive as it was clearly directed at a current forum member i.e. me, and at mine.
Perhaps if I reciprocated in like kind about you and yours, you would find my 'humour' amusing. However, I have better manners.
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The virus is today confirmed in the Algarve, close by in Portimão. Two schools have closed as a result.
So no, I don't appreciate your lame excuse that it was meant to be humour.
I found it particularly offensive as it was clearly directed at a current forum member i.e. me, and at mine.
Perhaps if I reciprocated in like kind about you and yours, you would find my 'humour' amusing. However, I have better manners.
This is all a bit silly you know, from both of you. Neither of whom which I have a problem.
Personally, I think that VS is hilarious, while you aren't often, but I can see why you sometimes take offence.
Has this not descended into a game of tit for tat? And if any of you want to play at that then you have to take it as it comes.
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This is all a bit silly you know, from both of you. Neither of whom which I have a problem.
Personally, I think that VS is hilarious, while you aren't often, but I can see why you sometimes take offence.
Has this not descended into a game of tit for tat? And if any of you want to play at that then you have to take it as it comes.
I made a serious post about what is happening on the Algarve, which is serious to me.
If you want to permit VS 'jokes' about the death of my dog then you need to check your moral compass.
I'm on topic and updating the forum about NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS FROM THE PORTUGUESE ALGARVE
VS is off topic, as are you.
Feel free to moderate responsibly.
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I made a serious post about what is happening on the Algarve, which is serious to me.
If you want to permit VS 'jokes' about the death of my dog then you need to check your moral compass.
I'm on topic and updating the forum about NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS FROM THE PORTUGUESE ALGARVE
VS is off topic, as are you.
Feel free to moderate responsibly.
Perhaps you should have taken your own advice.
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Perhaps you should have taken your own advice.
"I'm on topic and updating the forum about NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS FROM THE PORTUGUESE ALGARVE".
*%87
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The virus is today confirmed in the Algarve, close by in Portimão. Two schools have closed as a result.
So no, I don't appreciate your lame excuse that it was meant to be humour.
I found it particularly offensive as it was clearly directed at a current forum member i.e. me, and at mine.
Perhaps if I reciprocated in like kind about you and yours, you would find my 'humour' amusing. However, I have better manners.
Yes I would, if you advised me not to overdose my pussycat on calpol (as if i would even dream of giving him calpol in the first place) in case he plummeted off the sofa to his death I would have guffawed long and loudly. I’m obviously not as touchy or as deeply sensitive as you, bless you.
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I made a serious post about what is happening on the Algarve, which is serious to me.
If you want to permit VS 'jokes' about the death of my dog then you need to check your moral compass.
I'm on topic and updating the forum about NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS FROM THE PORTUGUESE ALGARVE
VS is off topic, as are you.
Feel free to moderate responsibly.
Perspective please. Your dog isn’t dead, and I was warning you not to give him an overdose of calpol. MYBAD!!
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Perspective please. Your dog isn’t dead, and I was warning you not to give him an overdose of calpol. MYBAD!!
Make up your mind. Was it just a crappy "joke", or was it "advice".
It was nasty either way.
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Make up your mind. Was it just a crappy "joke", or was it "advice".
It was nasty either way.
Get over it and move on. How was Mr Malinka today? Is that the name of your parrot?
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Get over it and move on. How was Mr Malinka today? Is that the name of your parrot?
As you do not seem to understand the basics of the case, tough luck.
I do not know how 'my' parrot is getting on today. I have not seen it in 3 years. It lives in Burgau. I call it Davel.
There is another forum member who can attest to the existence of the parrot.
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As you do not seem to understand the basics of the case, tough luck.
I do not know how 'my' parrot is getting on today. I have not seen it in 3 years. It lives in Burgau. I call it Davel.
There is another forum member who can attest to the existence of the parrot.
In what sense do you imagine that I don’t seem to understand the basic of the case?
You actually do have a parrot??! Amazeballs!!
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In what sense do you imagine that I don’t seem to understand the basic of the case?
You actually do have a parrot??! Amazeballs!!
If you don't understand the difference between Luz and Burgau then you have no hope of understanding the basics of the case.
The parrot speaks perfect guard dog, in Portuguese. I never managed to sneak past it a single time without it alerting the household.
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If you don't understand the difference between Luz and Burgau then you have no hope of understanding the basics of the case.
The parrot speaks perfect guard dog, in Portuguese. I never managed to sneak past it a single time without it alerting the household.
Who mentioned Luz and Burgau? I didn’t even know you had a parrot, it was another little joke as you seem to like to name pets after protagonists in this case and as you said you were having an “extensive meeting” with Mr Malinka I figured maybe this was a pet that could talk. Clearly you don’t “do” humour. Never mind.
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Who mentioned Luz and Burgau? I didn’t even know you had a parrot, it was another little joke as you seem to like to name pets after protagonists in this case and as you said you were having an “extensive meeting” with Mr Malinka I figured maybe this was a pet that could talk. Clearly you don’t “do” humour. Never mind.
I told you that the parrot lives in Burgau.
Mr Malinka is also real, an arguido in this case.
The meeting has been delayed.
Talk about semi-intelligible.
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I told you that the parrot lives in Burgau.
Mr Malinka is also real, an arguido in this case.
The meeting has been delayed.
Talk about semi-intelligible.
You told me the parrot lived in Burgau AFTER I asked you if Mr Malinka was your parrot. I didn’t even know you had a parrot, either in Luz, Burgau or Britain. It is what we call a joke. I don’t expect you to understand, you’ve made it clear humour is not your thing. Even if I knew you had a parrot in Burgau my joke still makes sense. Perhaps he used his wings to fly to your important meeting. That’s another joke btw. I do know who Malinka is, I do know the difference between Burgau and Luz, I do have a pretty good grounding in this case, I am not semi-intelligible and I think that the comprehension issues (once again) are all yours. Now, how many more attempts at putting me down are you going to give this non-issue before moving on?
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Let's all move on.
SIL keep us informed about the Coronavirus news in your area, please.
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Let's all move on.
SIL keep us informed about the Coronavirus news in your area, please.
Coronavirus is being used as the nemesis for many lame ducks these days.
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Coronavirus is being used as the nemesis for many lame ducks these days.
not to mention parrots.
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Coronavirus is being used as the nemesis for many lame ducks these days.
What does that mean? I certainly don't want Corona Virus, but I doubt that there is all that much to be done about it.
In Brittany it is already down the road a bit, about Fifty Miles away. But I have had nearly thirty years of good, clean air.
The Powers that be haven't cancelled The Food Bank in Baud, which is largely run by old people who volunteer, but The Kissing has had to stop.
I will be there today so I'll let you know if anything has changed.
Fortunately, the dog is only interested in Badgers. He has never managed to catch a Bat, of which we have quite a few.
His name is O'Connor. Connor for short. The year of The "O" in France.
He is a Rotten, Little Swine. Don't get a Dachshund. They steal your heart.
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What does that mean? I certainly don't want Corona Virus, but I doubt that there is all that much to be done about it.
In Brittany it is already down the road a bit, about Fifty Miles away. But I have had nearly thirty years of good, clean air.
The Powers that be haven't cancelled The Food Bank in Baud, which is largely run by old people who volunteer, but The Kissing has had to stop.
I will be there today so I'll let you know if anything has changed.
Fortunately, the dog is only interested in Badgers. He has never managed to catch a Bat, of which we have quite a few.
His name is O'Connor. Connor for short. The year of The "O" in France.
He is a Rotten, Little Swine. Don't get a Dachshund. They steal your heart.
All these nearly defunct businesses are using coronavirus as an excuse to fold.
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All these nearly defunct businesses are using coronavirus as an excuse to fold.
Many businesses currently teetering on the edge due to a number of factors (Brexit uncertainty, floods, poor weather, death of the high street etc) certainly don't need another excuse to fold but this one may well be the straw that breaks quite a few backs. Do you think business people LIKE or RELISH the prospect of having a failed business?
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All these nearly defunct businesses are using coronavirus as an excuse to fold.
Really? In Britain, you mean? They are made of sterner stuff around here. It's all Farming Country and animals have to be fed and fields ploughed. It is such a tidy and pretty place.
I have been buying Raw Milk for years from the local Farm.
Sorry, sorry. Frightfully Off Topic. But some of us do have good lives outside of The Algarve which often bores me witless.
Not The Algarve itself which I think is beautiful. But Luz was never The Place to go. It's a third rate holiday destination with cheap accommodation and no class. In My Experienced Opinion.
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Dear SIL
What sort of dog is Goncalo? I have always seen him as a Pit Bull, probably unfairly. But you are obviously proud of him.
Are we allowed to know?
I am a frightful snob about dogs. I only ever own Pedigrees even if they are awful.
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Dear SIL
What sort of dog is Goncalo? I have always seen him as a Pit Bull, probably unfairly. But you are obviously proud of him.
Are we allowed to know?
I am a frightful snob about dogs. I only ever own Pedigrees even if they are awful.
Lally is a thoroughbred Cocker Spaniel. I'm not a snob about dogs, but the breeder does a deal with our local dog rescue service. He donates one puppy to the rescue centre from time to time. Someone like us sees the cutest puppy and buys it, and the funds help keep the rescue service running.
There is a bulldog and a Staff upstairs. The Staff terrifies people because they think she is a Pitbull, although Staffs are on the Portuguese list of dangerous dogs in their own right. Whilst she is terrifically strong, she is also terrifically gentle, and particularly loves young children.
The reference to Calpol for Lally was not a joke. We are laying in essentials so that if we choose to self quarantine we could do so for an extended period. Should it hit properly, I don't want to be going near a vet, doctor, hospital, or supermarket, if those can be avoided. The pharmacist knows it's for Lally, and was quite happy to issue it. If the Calpol is not required, we have wasted only a few cents.
We have a good friend who runs a very decent Chinese restaurant in Lagos. Her business is under pressure, because she and her husband are Chinese, and punters are wary of the Chinese connection. She has shut down to take a well-earned winter break, and has needed to explain to customers that she is not going to visit China.
Best wishes for your food bank visits. I would class those as high risk if the infection takes off in your locality. Our strategy is based on avoidance. But you will surely know your personal situation much better than I do.
Just for the sake of avoidance, the following is NOT a joke. We now have an Eeyore or two next door to us. They were installed roughly a month ago to keep short the grass in our neighbour's orange orchard. They look cute, but my god, they are noisy.
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I'm also a life long non smoker but I worry a great deal about a loved family member who smokes
and will continue to point out any piece of "drivel" which may help to persuade him to stop the filthy habit.
Not hubby by the way.......And no one ever smokes in our home now.
ETA.
My mother was a heavy smoker and when she visited she did smoke in the house.
Most of the friend and family smokers have all stopped.
Me too, and my husband. Lifelong non-smokers. Cancer runs in my family and heart disease, in his.
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Me too, and my husband. Lifelong non-smokers. Cancer runs in my family and heart disease, in his.
A college acquaintance used to puff away at a bent briar pipe piled high with Balkan Sobranie. It smelled wonderful and gave me a longing to follow suit, which I never did. He sported a big, black, bushy beard at the time which was also quite unusual for an eighteen-year old, but then he was a product of a Public School education. A few years ago I saw his photo online minus beard which I didn't recognise at first, although the name sounded familiar. It was an obituary... he died of lung cancer in his mid-fifties.
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Me too, and my husband. Lifelong non-smokers. Cancer runs in my family and heart disease, in his.
Neither of us have ever smoked.
Not a decision made for health reasons but it just never appealed .
A fortunate decision.
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A college acquaintance used to puff away at a bent briar pipe piled high with Balkan Sobranie. It smelled wonderful and gave me a longing to follow suit, which I never did. He sported a big, black, bushy beard at the time which was also quite unusual for an eighteen-year old, but then he was a product of a Public School education. A few years ago I saw his photo online minus beard which I didn't recognise at first, although the name sounded familiar. It was an obituary... he died of lung cancer in his mid-fifties.
Our daughter in law's mother was a heavy smoker.
She died of small cell lung cancer at age 62.
She didn't live long enough to meet the two beautiful granddaughters that she and I would have shared.
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A college acquaintance used to puff away at a bent briar pipe piled high with Balkan Sobranie. It smelled wonderful and gave me a longing to follow suit, which I never did. He sported a big, black, bushy beard at the time which was also quite unusual for an eighteen-year old, but then he was a product of a Public School education. A few years ago I saw his photo online minus beard which I didn't recognise at first, although the name sounded familiar. It was an obituary... he died of lung cancer in his mid-fifties.
I also know of people here who have never smoked and yet die due to lung cancer. Tuberculosis is a serious and huge health issue in my country. The condition, as far as I know, is multi-faceted and lung disease has many manifestations. HIV is one of them and in the mining industry, as well.
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Lally is a thoroughbred Cocker Spaniel. I'm not a snob about dogs, but the breeder does a deal with our local dog rescue service. He donates one puppy to the rescue centre from time to time. Someone like us sees the cutest puppy and buys it, and the funds help keep the rescue service running.
There is a bulldog and a Staff upstairs. The Staff terrifies people because they think she is a Pitbull, although Staffs are on the Portuguese list of dangerous dogs in their own right. Whilst she is terrifically strong, she is also terrifically gentle, and particularly loves young children.
The reference to Calpol for Lally was not a joke. We are laying in essentials so that if we choose to self quarantine we could do so for an extended period. Should it hit properly, I don't want to be going near a vet, doctor, hospital, or supermarket, if those can be avoided. The pharmacist knows it's for Lally, and was quite happy to issue it. If the Calpol is not required, we have wasted only a few cents.
We have a good friend who runs a very decent Chinese restaurant in Lagos. Her business is under pressure, because she and her husband are Chinese, and punters are wary of the Chinese connection. She has shut down to take a well-earned winter break, and has needed to explain to customers that she is not going to visit China.
Best wishes for your food bank visits. I would class those as high risk if the infection takes off in your locality. Our strategy is based on avoidance. But you will surely know your personal situation much better than I do.
Just for the sake of avoidance, the following is NOT a joke. We now have an Eeyore or two next door to us. They were installed roughly a month ago to keep short the grass in our neighbour's orange orchard. They look cute, but my god, they are noisy.
Today was all a bit of a joke, although not all that funny. Most of the people who run this stuff are old and at risk themselves. But they were all there today, doing what they do.
We did have to stand outside in the rain to wait , but it wasn't actually pissing down. So nothing lost.
Do they have Food Banks in Luz, or anywhere close by? Are there any English people who qualify?
I do qualify. And much gratitude I have for this.
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Today was all a bit of a joke, although not all that funny. Most of the people who run this stuff are old and at risk themselves. But they were all there today, doing what they do.
We did have to stand outside in the rain to wait , but it wasn't actually pissing down. So nothing lost.
Do they have Food Banks in Luz, or anywhere close by? Are there any English people who qualify?
I do qualify. And much gratitude I have for this.
My answer is that I have looked and not found any. I would be most happy to deliver essentials to the local needy, but I cannot for the life of me locate any needy. I know they exist. I just cannot find them.
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Food banks are funded by The EU but also get donations from local supermarkets.
They will have a Portuguese name in Portugal which you could probably find on Google if you put in "Food Bank."
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Banco Alimentar. Several Links on Google.
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Banco Alimentar. Several Links on Google.
Thanks, but that is not the crux of the issue.
We have a modern church, which should be the heart of the community. Except it is permanently closed.
We also have an extensive agricultural neighbourhood, so many less well off grow their own. Personally, I like a paysan diet. It's tasty and healthy.
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We have a café opposite us which closed just months after we moved in. It's in the wrong place and it tried to be ultra-cheap. That business model is all naff. It attracted poorer Portuguese customers who thought that more than one bottle of beer was more than they could afford.
So there was a roll call of those in the vicinity in need. I just don't have my hands on it.
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Things are kicking off big time around here.
The Portuguese football league has been suspended.
The school in Luz that we send our grandkids to, the Gonçalo College, is shutting for 2 months as a precautionary measure.
Our kids have now decided that they too need to take precautions. That includes stocking up at Iceland. Plus some Calpol in case their little one catches covid-19. And they have decided to 'self-isolate', which means keeping away from the old-timers, to avoid infecting them. Convivial cups of tea and a chat are now banned. However, if the grandchildren are now off school and at home, playing in the garden, I will be out in the Algarve sunshine to let Gonçalo enjoy some fun with them.
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Just as I say Baptista is working normally, it changed its approach. To control the number of customers in the supermarket at any one time, Baptista is now operating a policy of 1 customer in when 1 customer leaves. Plus you now need to wear a face mask to gain entry.
As we have no face masks, we had to scarper to Lagos to a Portuguese nationwide supermarket chain called Pingo Doce. There a security guard told customers upon entry that if they attempted to panic buy to stockpile, the excess goods would be removed from them.
Swapping to Edinburgh, our much beloved Uncle Angelo died on Thursday, not from coronavirus. He was elderly, in his 90s, and his children had thought it wise to put him in a care home. Basically, removed from his normal social contact, he lost the will to live, and lasted only a few weeks in the home.
That point is relevant to coronavirus, because a lot of 'wrinklies' derive a great deal of enjoyment, joie de vivre, from mixing with their friends. Take it away, and what is the point of living?
Boris managed to mangle my CV contingency plan today. It was geared around surviving 14 days in self-isolation. Now that recommendation appears to be 12 weeks for senior citizens.
We simply are NOT going to self-isolate for 12 weeks. So I need to draw up plan B ASAP. Fortunately plan A involved making sure that our car is always filled to the brim with petrol.
We might be driving into Lagos for a lot of takeaways. There is no delivery service here. But we won't go short on food.
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Just as I say Baptista is working normally, it changed its approach. To control the number of customers in the supermarket at any one time, Baptista is now operating a policy of 1 customer in when 1 customer leaves. Plus you now need to wear a face mask to gain entry.
As we have no face masks, we had to scarper to Lagos to a Portuguese nationwide supermarket chain called Pingo Doce. There a security guard told customers upon entry that if they attempted to panic buy to stockpile, the excess goods would be removed from them.
Swapping to Edinburgh, our much beloved Uncle Angelo died on Thursday, not from coronavirus. He was elderly, in his 90s, and his children had thought it wise to put him in a care home. Basically, removed from his normal social contact, he lost the will to live, and lasted only a few weeks in the home.
That point is relevant to coronavirus, because a lot of 'wrinklies' derive a great deal of enjoyment, joie de vivre, from mixing with their friends. Take it away, and what is the point of living?
Boris managed to mangle my CV contingency plan today. It was geared around surviving 14 days in self-isolation. Now that recommendation appears to be 12 weeks for senior citizens.
We simply are NOT going to self-isolate for 12 weeks. So I need to draw up plan B ASAP. Fortunately plan A involved making sure that our car is always filled to the brim with petrol.
We might be driving into Lagos for a lot of takeaways. There is no delivery service here. But we won't go short on food.
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"That point is relevant to coronavirus, because a lot of 'wrinklies' derive a great deal of enjoyment, joie de vivre, from mixing with their friends. Take it away, and what is the point of living?"
This is very relevant- I was looking for the study I used many years at Uni. about self harm- self isolation. I recall about the situation where prisoners who are hel in self contained isolation units are more likely to suffer various forms of mental illness including a desire to kill themselves as opposed to being held in the main social cells.
We do have skype and other communication facilities- here on this very forum is one!
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"That point is relevant to coronavirus, because a lot of 'wrinklies' derive a great deal of enjoyment, joie de vivre, from mixing with their friends. Take it away, and what is the point of living?"
This is very relevant- I was looking for the study I used many years at Uni. about self harm- self isolation. I recall about the situation where prisoners who are hel in self contained isolation units are more likely to suffer various forms of mental illness including a desire to kill themselves as opposed to being held in the main social cells.
We do have skype and other communication facilities- here on this very forum is one!
Lucky for us wrinklies we have the Miscarriage of justice forum.
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Lucky for us wrinklies we have the Miscarriage of justice forum.
Exactly, Rob. What would we all do without it?
Apparently The Bar Tabac in Melrand was selling tobacco yesterday, but no drinks, so half a dozen people were standing outside smoking and chatting.
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Eight people arrested in eight hours for breaking rules of Portugal’s State of Emergency
https://www.portugalresident.com/eight-people-arrested-in-eight-hours-for-breaking-rules-of-portugals-state-of-emergency/
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Eight people arrested in eight hours for breaking rules of Portugal’s State of Emergency
https://www.portugalresident.com/eight-people-arrested-in-eight-hours-for-breaking-rules-of-portugals-state-of-emergency/
Probably all ignorant drunken Brits (thought I would save SIL the job of making that observation).
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Probably all ignorant drunken Brits (thought I would save SIL the job of making that observation).
What are we to do? Personally, I am scared witless. I am not going anywhere. But my son who does my shopping actually lives with me.
Yes. I really am frightened. I could be dead in six weeks time. And I don't want to die just yet.
But it all amounts to the same thing no matter where you live.
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What are we to do? Personally, I am scared witless. I am not going anywhere. But my son who does my shopping actually lives with me.
Yes. I really am frightened. I could be dead in six weeks time. And I don't want to die just yet.
But it all amounts to the same thing no matter where you live.
My parents are terrified too. I worry that I will never see them again.
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Probably all ignorant drunken Brits (thought I would save SIL the job of making that observation).
I suspect that SIL has never seen the more Up Market side of The Algarve.
I was shocked by how very Down Market is Praia de Luz by comparison.
I don't know what this has to do with Money. I would never have spent a holiday in such an awful place.
Did this alone make it more easy to steal a child?
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My parents are terrified too. I worry that I will never see them again.
Bloody Hell. I am worried that I might never see me again either. Which is a possibility. This is, if only briefly. A Plague.
I am currently locked up and not going anywhere. But this won't necessarily save me.
I can only hope that I will survive. But I am not putting too much hope on anyone else actually caring about me.
We are all on our own. But then we always have been.
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Bloody Hell. I am worried that I might never see me again either. Which is a possibility. This is, if only briefly. A Plague.
I am currently locked up and not going anywhere. But this won't necessarily save me.
I can only hope that I will survive. But I am not putting too much hope on anyone else actually caring about me.
We are all on our own. But then we always have been.
Your son is looking after you isn’t he? He’d better be!
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Your son is looking after you isn’t he? He’d better be!
Yes he is looking after me. But he is a bit of a dick head. He thinks he is never going to get It. He never did quite get the Herd Thing. He is Speshul, and only him shall be. However, I suppose that he could be right.
Some of us will survive this and some of us won't. I'll let you all know if I die.
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Yes he is looking after me. But he is a bit of a dick head. He thinks he is never going to get It. He never did quite get the Herd Thing. He is Speshul, and only him shall be. However, I suppose that he could be right.
Some of us will survive this and some of us won't. I'll let you all know if I die.
Please do x
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Please do x
It's actually quite amazing. Have you noticed how many Celebrities who are at Death's Door can tell you how they feel in the grip of this Killer?
So why should I not let you know that I died?
Actually, I am going to have to talk to The Dick Head about this. Love him to bits, by the way.
Please can you tell The Forum that I died. What a hoot.
And don't any of you bloody well dare say how wonderful I was.
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It's actually quite amazing. Have you noticed how many Celebrities who are at Death's Door can tell you how they feel in the grip of this Killer?
So why should I not let you know that I died?
Actually, I am going to have to talk to The Dick Head about this. Love him to bits, by the way.
Please can you tell The Forum that I died. What a hoot.
And don't any of you bloody well dare say how wonderful I was.
My daughter panicked today because she had missed calls on her phone from a withheld number and she thought it might be because a family member was ill. I got calls to see if it was me. Even if one of us were to fall ill, no-one could visit if we ended up in hospital. We truly are alone. It's all down to luck now.
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My daughter panicked today because she had missed calls on her phone from a withheld number and she thought it might be because a family member was ill. I got calls to see if it was me. Even if one of us were to fall ill, no-one could visit if we ended up in hospital. We truly are alone. It's all down to luck now.
This is not the end of The World. It is largely common sense and nothing much to do with Luck. Just stay away from people. It will pass.
I watched the video about Eyham, It was really good. But not necessarily a good idea at the moment.
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It's actually quite amazing. Have you noticed how many Celebrities who are at Death's Door can tell you how they feel in the grip of this Killer?
So why should I not let you know that I died?
Actually, I am going to have to talk to The Dick Head about this. Love him to bits, by the way.
Please can you tell The Forum that I died. What a hoot.
And don't any of you bloody well dare say how wonderful I was.
No chance of that Eleanor
(only joking of course xx)
And anyway, you’re not going to kick the bucket anytime soon, it’s not allowed.
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No chance of that Eleanor
(only joking of course xx)
And anyway, you’re not going to kick the bucket anytime soon, it’s not allowed.
Phew. That was a relief. Either, Or.
Xcuse me God, Vertigo Swirl says that I am NOT dying.... Oh really. Tough Shit. Your God....
Can I have another God? I don't mind which one.... Nope. I am The Only God.... Well, I'll tell you what, I don't believe that. Every idiot believes that. Ask Davel. He knows that's not true. Even Rob knows it's not true and he's Down Under. Are You a Dog perchance?
Ah Ha. O'Connor The Dachshund. That's why. But perhaps better not to pursue this as it is getting into the realms of Blasphemy.
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Our lockdown for 21 days starts at midnight tomorrow. I took my elderly Dad to the coast for a meeting, some 900 km from our home. We made our way back today and were in the midst of madness. People panic buying, negligent drivers disobeying basic traffic laws despite the military and police been deployed to monitor things, hundreds of trucks travelling between Johannesburg and Cape Town with food supplies. We crossed four province borders on our way home. At the most vulnerable border, the Eastern Cape, we had a medical road block and everyone’s temperature were taken to ensure we were competent/able to get home uninflected. If one’s temperature was 37.2 and higher, you would be put in an emergency ambulance, taking you to the closest medical facility for a proper screening. Just sharing. Thank you.
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It's actually quite amazing. Have you noticed how many Celebrities who are at Death's Door can tell you how they feel in the grip of this Killer?
So why should I not let you know that I died?
Actually, I am going to have to talk to The Dick Head about this. Love him to bits, by the way.
Please can you tell The Forum that I died. What a hoot.
And don't any of you bloody well dare say how wonderful I was.
If you die before me, please can I have O'Connor?
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Our lockdown for 21 days starts at midnight tomorrow. I took my elderly Dad to the coast for a meeting, some 900 km from our home. We made our way back today and were in the midst of madness. People panic buying, negligent drivers disobeying basic traffic laws despite the military and police been deployed to monitor things, hundreds of trucks travelling between Johannesburg and Cape Town with food supplies. We crossed four province borders on our home. At the most vulnerable border, the Eastern Cape, we had a medical road block and everyone’s temperature were taken to ensure we were competent/able to get hom uninflected. If one’s temperature was 37.2 and higher, you would be put in an emergency ambulance, taking you to the closest medical facility for a proper screening. Just sharing. Thank you.
It hasn't got that bad here. But then no one is going out. The French are being very sensible. Stay away from people and only one person to any car.
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If you die before me, please can I have O'Connor?
You could because you are even more mad than me. But my son might object. However, O'Connor is a horror story. This is the worst dog of your nightmares.
Actually he is utterly lovely, but it depends on how he grabs you.
Charlotte, the blind, incontinent and permanently pissing Pug is still living with the local Vet. I hoped that I was doing the right thing by having her put down, but I was obviously wrong. She never did like me all that much so maybe she needed a Vet.
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You could because you are even more mad than me. But my son might object. However, O'Connor is a horror story. This is the worst dog of your nightmares.
Actually he is utterly lovely, but it depends on how he grabs you.
Charlotte, the blind, incontinent and permanently pissing Pug is still living with the local Vet. I hoped that I was doing the right thing by having her put down, but I was obviously wrong. She never did like me all that much so maybe she needed a Vet.
Ho ho!! I often think about Captain Scarlet Charlotte!
Take good care of yourself. 8((()*/
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Ho ho!! I often think about Captain Scarlet Charlotte!
Take good care of yourself. 8((()*/
You were so kind to me when I was having problems with Charlotte. What a little swine she was. Just badly treated before me and I never quite got past that. So I guess that O'Connor is pay back.
O'Connor? Who thought that one up? It was the year of "O" in France and mayhap they ran to of names.
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In response to a PM query, I have just been informed that the latest figures for the whole of Portugal are 76 deaths and 4,268 cases. I do not have current figures for the Algarve.
What IS happening here is that the GNR are out in force to prevent unnecessary journeys this weekend.
Lockdown is challenging. Supermarket trips are OK, and I'm currently checking what we have in our minuscule freezer. So far it's all good.
But we've found out this morning that Lally had 2 large tics on him, so we're trying to figure out if we can get him medicine for prevention of tics.
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I presume that vets are still working, just that clinics are closed.
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In response to a PM query, I have just been informed that the latest figures for the whole of Portugal are 76 deaths and 4,268 cases. I do not have current figures for the Algarve.
What IS happening here is that the GNR are out in force to prevent unnecessary journeys this weekend.
Lockdown is challenging. Supermarket trips are OK, and I'm currently checking what we have in our minuscule freezer. So far it's all good.
But we've found out this morning that Lally had 2 large tics on him, so we're trying to figure out if we can get him medicine for prevention of tics.
*%87
I presume that vets are still working, just that clinics are closed.
Tics aren't difficult to deal with. Gently grasp the head which is in the skin and then jerk fast and hard. It should come out intact.. I have very rarely failed.
However, my youngest son once had one in his hair line and I failed miserably on that one. I got the tic but not the head. Probably because i was freaked out. It never occurred to me to go to a Doctor because tics were a way of life in Singapore. My son is still here and functioning some fifty years later. The tic head is still in his hairline. Dead, of course.
Lime's Disease only comes from Deers. Do you have Deers in The Algarve? If so, holler. But more for the children than the dog.
I have recently removed tics from my neighbour's cats without any problems.
There are a hundred ways to be told how to deal with this. None of them work any better than my way.
Lally is a really nice name.
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Tics aren't difficult to deal with. Gently grasp the head which is in the skin and then jerk fast and hard. It should come out intact.. I have very rarely failed.
However, my youngest son once had one in his hair line and I failed miserably on that one. I got the tic but not the head. Probably because i was freaked out. It never occurred to me to go to a Doctor because tics were a way of life in Singapore. My son is still here and functioning some fifty years later. The tic head is still in his hairline. Dead, of course.
Lime's Disease only comes from Deers. Do you have Deers in The Algarve? If so, holler. But more for the children than the dog.
I have recently removed tics from my neighbour's cats without any problems.
There are a hundred ways to be told how to deal with this. None of them work any better than my way.
Lally is a really nice name.
I bought a tweezer like gadget from the chemist for tics. Not had to use it yet either on humans or animals, but the time will come.
Thanks for your post Sil ... I had forgotten that my dog is due flea and tic treatment (there is nothing else going on in the world at the moment !!!) so I'll find out on Monday if our vets are open
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I bought a tweezer like gadget from the chemist for tics. Not had to use it yet either on humans or animals, but the time will come.
Thanks for your post Sil ... I had forgotten that my dog is due flea and tic treatment (there is nothing else going on in the world at the moment !!!) so I'll find out on Monday if our vets are open
The Tweezers don't work, Brietta. The cold and hard metal frightens the tic so it just holds on harder. Fingers are much better. They don't feel it coming.
But to each his own. Although I do purport to be an expert at this. What a laugh. My one claim to fame. Eleanor the Tic Killer.
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The Tweezers don't work, Brietta. The cold and hard metal frightens the tic so it just holds on harder. Fingers are much better. They don't feel it coming.
But to each his own. Although I do purport to be an expert at this. What a laugh. My one claim to fame. Eleanor the Tic Killer.
AND saviour of unlovable pugs. I'm really good at making omelettes and worming cats. But not at the same time.
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Christ, I'm so bored I could eat my own arse.
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Christ, I'm so bored I could eat my own arse.
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After losing 3 stone in weight my arse wouldn't make much of a meal these days, so bored as I am I will stick to eating the occasional apple. I might treat myself to a sugar-free Digestive in a bit.
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AND saviour of unlovable pugs. I'm really good at making omelettes and worming cats. But not at the same time.
But I did eventually bail out on Charlotte.
Look you, Dear Shona, I thought that there was nothing left to save. I was obviously wrong. But then I didn't have the money to pursue this, presuming that she would ever be anything beyond her own self interest.
Seven years, and I did try. It isn't a lot of fun when you know that your dog doesn't even like you.
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These are purely personal observations concerning my neck of the woods in the Algarve.
Normally, we can hear a constant hum from traffic on the EN125 between Lagos and Portimão, a busy stretch. There is still traffic noise, but at about 1/10th the level of what it was before.
We also live near to Lagos airport, and it is usually standard to hear private flights close by many times per day. That has totally stopped.
The bread lady is either considered essential, or she is breaking the curfew. Her normal van arrival time is about 10 AM, as she does her rounds.
For whatever reason, UK TV is mentioning a shortage of eggs, which I find baffling if it is actually true. Our neighbour has a small business raising farm products, so if our supermarkets run out, we will be asking him for a few eggs as a favour. The hens he keeps do not stop laying eggs just because the humans are in lockdown.
Because she can be an awkward sod, my wife has decided she is going 100% pescatarian today. That's vegetarian plus fish. This after stocking up our fridge-freezer with meat products.
She likes a full British for breakfast. So I'm working on a full Welsh instead, with a Glamorgan sausage (cheese, leeks and breadcrumbs). Her fads normally last only about 7 to 10 days, but she likes to keep me occupied.
I've got to go. It's time to cook breakfast for Lally, and basically he's a carnivore. &^^&*
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The traffic here has slowed a bit. This is good. Lann Georges is the only Hamlet in Brittany with a 70 kilometre speed limit. Cats get killed.
Meanwhile the post is still being delivered. More brave people. Who knows what could be on a letter?
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The traffic here has slowed a bit. This is good. Lann Georges is the only Hamlet in Brittany with a 70 kilometre speed limit. Cats get killed.
Meanwhile the post is still being delivered. More brave people. Who knows what could be on a letter?
yes...what could be on a letter...we are all going to get one from Boris here...need to be careful
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yes...what could be on a letter...we are all going to get one from Boris here...need to be careful
All that I am seeing here at the moment is truly brave people who go on doing essential jobs. And absolutely no one is making a song and dance about this.
I know my Check Out Lady at the Supermarket and she is there every day. But she does have a screen in front of her now.
There is only common sense to be done. If I wasn't so old I probably wouldn't care. But such is the way of The World.
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We broke 10 days of self-isolation to stock up at our Pingo Doce supermarket in Lagos today. In truth, it was a bit of a non-event.
There was a Q to get in (self-distancing), plus Qs at the butchers, the bread counter, the fish counter and the checkouts. But everything was fully stocked and all the folks were being really nice and helpful to each other. No panic buying in sight. Nobody coughing. Everyone well spaced. Quite pleasant if truth be told.
Another thing I did today was I trawled through the memory card on my camera, to free up some space. Below is one I'm not getting rid of. It is Gonçalo in March 2018 when he arrived at our house.
You can see on the LHS the travel cage we bought when we got him. It's obvious he fitted inside easily.
Two years on and he is now roughly the length (height) and weight that Madeleine was when she disappeared - about 1m long and he weighs 13kg. He does not fit in that travel cot anymore.
Try passing him through the window of 5A only if your back is made of steel. Try carrying him in the Tannerman crane position only if you have lost your marbles. If Smithman carried Lally from 5A to the Smithman sighting, then we are looking for a young and strong perpetrator.
Lally says WOOF from the Algarve.
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What a dear looking dog. But I ever was stupid about dogs. Well, not that stupid actually. I just can't live without one, no matter how awful.
I haven't been out for more than three weeks now so I don't have much idea of what is going on. Oh Joy. I have always hated shopping.
And I think that Lally is a lovely name.
In France all dogs are registered by the letter of the alphabet of the year in which they are born. Hence O'Connor. I think it must have been last ditch because, let's face it, this is hardly a name for a German Sausage Dog. I simply screech "Connor" at him when he is being dreadful yet again.
But what a rotten little sweetie he is. I think I might have been suckered.
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What a dear looking dog. But I ever was stupid about dogs. Well, not that stupid actually. I just can't live without one, no matter how awful.
I haven't been out for more than three weeks now so I don't have much idea of what is going on. Oh Joy. I have always hated shopping.
And I think that Lally is a lovely name.
In France all dogs are registered by the letter of the alphabet of the year in which they are born. Hence O'Connor. I think it must have been last ditch because, let's face it, this is hardly a name for a German Sausage Dog. I simply screech "Connor" at him when he is being dreadful yet again.
But what a rotten little sweetie he is. I think I might have been suckered.
Where is SIL ? Do hope that he is OK
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Where is SIL ? Do hope that he is OK
Of course he is. He is just keeping his head down for a minute. But we all do that from time to time.
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Where is SIL ? Do hope that he is OK
He's fine.
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Has he got the hump?
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Has he got the hump?
Come on. We all get the hump from time to time. Me not least.
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He's fine.
Good
But do you actually KNOW that?
Thanks for coming back, barrier
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Good
But do you actually KNOW that?
Thanks for coming back, barrier
He's fine.
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He's fine.
Thank you. Pleased to hear that. Please give him my best wishes.
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Thank you. Pleased to hear that. Please give him my best wishes.
Bless you, Sadie.
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Bless you, Sadie.
How kind of you. Thankyou.
I truly am worried about SIL. He doesn't seem to be doing his blog any more unless I am doing the wrong things to open it up. Do hope he is OK
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How kind of you. Thankyou.
I truly am worried about SIL. He doesn't seem to be doing his blog any more unless I am doing the wrong things to open it up. Do hope he is OK
SIL replied to the comment that I left on his Blog. He seems to be fine.
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https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2022/06/07/madeleine-v-ndas/#comments (https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2022/06/07/madeleine-v-ndas/#comments)
He sounded tired and weary then, talking to Jutta Rabe in the German docu. This is SIL isn't it?...
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https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2022/06/07/madeleine-v-ndas/#comments (https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2022/06/07/madeleine-v-ndas/#comments)
He sounded tired and weary then, talking to Jutta Rabe in the German docu. This is SIL isn't it?...
I don’t know, but isn’t that Boris Johnson on the left?
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I don’t know, but isn’t that Boris Johnson on the left?
These pesky blonde-haired Germans all look similar.
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I don’t know, but isn’t that Boris Johnson on the left?
Snort.
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These pesky blonde-haired Germans all look similar.
That is Racist. And no they don't.
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https://news.sky.com/story/christian-b-suspect-in-madeleine-mccanns-disappearance-appears-in-court-accused-of-unrelated-sex-offences-13072804
It's all he can do, he's trying all the dirty tactics.