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News and current affairs => A look at the news stories currently making the headlines. => Topic started by: Angelo222 on January 24, 2019, 03:14:58 PM

Title: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Angelo222 on January 24, 2019, 03:14:58 PM
Former First Minister Alex Salmond charged with a breach of the peace, 2 counts of indecent assault, 9 counts of sexual assault and 2 of attempted rape.

He told reporters outside Edinburgh Sheriff Court that he was innocent of any criminality.
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: John on January 24, 2019, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 24, 2019, 03:14:58 PM
Former First Minister Alex Salmond charged with a breach of the peace, 2 counts of indecent assault, 9 counts of sexual assault and 2 of attempted rape.

He told reporters outside Edinburgh Sheriff Court that he was innocent of any criminality.

And to think that this was the guy who very nearly brought about the conditions for an independent Scotland.
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: mrswah on January 25, 2019, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: John on January 24, 2019, 08:03:38 PM
And to think that this was the guy who very nearly brought about the conditions for an independent Scotland.

As my husband keeps on telling me, innocent until proven guilty!
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Angelo222 on January 26, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: mrswah on January 25, 2019, 04:48:02 PM
As my husband keeps on telling me, innocent until proven guilty!

No smoke without fire come to mind with these 14 charges.  I fear a Joan of Arc moment coming on.
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Erngath on March 23, 2020, 03:47:07 PM
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 26, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
No smoke without fire come to mind with these 14 charges.  I fear a Joan of Arc moment coming on.

Not guilty of all charges.
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Brietta on March 23, 2020, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: Erngath on March 23, 2020, 03:47:07 PM
Not guilty of all charges.

So much for the Moorov Doctrine.
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 23, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
Quote from: mrswah on January 25, 2019, 04:48:02 PM
As my husband keeps on telling me, innocent until proven guilty!

or not proven!!

 the outcome today...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1259115/Alex-Salmond-latest-court-case-sexual-assault-not-guilty-acquitted

The express and others claim not guilty but it is not proven  which is something differnt..,
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Brietta on March 23, 2020, 07:32:52 PM
Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on March 23, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
or not proven!!

 the outcome today...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1259115/Alex-Salmond-latest-court-case-sexual-assault-not-guilty-acquitted

The express and others claim not guilty but it is not proven  which is something differnt..,

If you read it correctly one charge out of twelve was 'not proven' and in law there is there no legal difference between a not guilty and not proven verdict making for a rather bizarre outcome.

The man has been tried and found Not Guilty and that is an end of it.
Title: Re: Former FM Alex Salmond faces 14 charges including 2 of attempted rape.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 23, 2020, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: Brietta on March 23, 2020, 07:32:52 PM
If you read it correctly one charge out of twelve was 'not proven' and in law there is there no legal difference between a not guilty and not proven verdict making for a rather bizarre outcome.

The man has been tried and found Not Guilty and that is an end of it.

It is not in a innocent persons interest that something is left 'not proven'- it is a hellish state of affairs!

I don't think was any real evidence of  his guilt- the jury had no option to find him not guilty for the rest. SO THE NOT PROVEN ONE WAS A SURPRISE TO SAY THE LEAST!