What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?

[Brietta]

Good enough for the American justice system.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

Not really though.  Independent scientific research continues to be undertaken in most countries today in the hope of advancing what it is these dogs are capable of and ensuring consistency.


Might I suggest that you find a more appropriate method of indicating quotes ... not just you ... EVERYBODY annoys me ... for a start your post does not appear in my answer so if I don't C&P or without following the link as above (should there be one and most often there is not), what you are posting may be lost ... and second, you reduce the point size of your original.

[barrier]

Would you be willing to expand that question so even I can understand it please.  I think it is a question without a question mark.

Is it known that there are no known records kept.

[barrier]

Not really though.  Independent scientific research continues to be undertaken in most countries today in the hope of advancing what it is these dogs are capable of and ensuring consistency.


Might I suggest that you find a more appropriate method of indicating quotes ... not just you ... EVERYBODY annoys me ... for a start your post does not appear in my answer so if I don't C&P or without following the link as above (should there be one and most often there is not), what you are posting may be lost ... and second, you reduce the point size of your original.

You'd best ask John why quote's don't appear in answers to them , probably something to do with bandwidth.

[Mr Gray]

Good enough for the American justice system.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

I think if cadaver odour is present the dogs will reliably alert to it.... But what if cadaver odour is not present and the dogs are repeatedly brought back?  I think it all becomes clear when we see the alert that grime says is, sugggestive of cadaver odour to CC

[Robittybob1]

I think if cadaver odour is present the dogs will reliably alert to it.... But what if cadaver odour is not present and the dogs are repeatedly brought back?  I think it all becomes clear when we see the alert that grime says is, sugggestive of cadaver odour to CC

tell us what you think then.

[G-Unit]

I think if cadaver odour is present the dogs will reliably alert to it.... But what if cadaver odour is not present and the dogs are repeatedly brought back?  I think it all becomes clear when we see the alert that grime says is, sugggestive of cadaver odour to CC

It depends what you mean by 'repeatedly brought back''. What a layman thinks he's seen isn't necessarily what he has seen.

[Mr Gray]

It depends what you mean by 'repeatedly brought back''. What a layman thinks he's seen isn't necessarily what he has seen.

Laymen have every right to judge and criticise professionals... That is, a fact of life

Eddie did not alert to CC imo... Grime says he did... Who is right...Grime or the layman

[G-Unit]

Laymen have every right to judge and criticise professionals... That is, a fact of life

Eddie did not alert to CC imo... Grime says he did... Who is right...Grime or the layman

Laymen can say what they like, but unless they have evidence to support their claims it comes down to a choice of opinions. A professional opinion trumps an amateur opinion imo.

[Mr Gray]

Laymen can say what they like, but unless they have evidence to support their claims it comes down to a choice of opinions. A professional opinion trumps an amateur opinion imo.

You didn't answer the question... Grime said eddie, alerted to CC... I think that's rubbish

[misty]

A random question related to another case:- Is it possible to beat a child to death with a stick & leave absolutely no forensic traces of injury or death except remnant scent?

[John]

A random question related to another case:- Is it possible to beat a child to death with a stick & leave absolutely no forensic traces of injury or death except remnant scent?

I doubt it very much.

[misty]

I doubt it very much.

I'll come back to it after re-reading the forensic evidence in the Bianca Jones case (although I do think Lane is guilty).
Lisa Irwin, Madeleine McCann, Bianca Jones.....alerts beside beds/wardrobes in all 3 cases.

[Robittybob1]

A random question related to another case:- Is it possible to beat a child to death with a stick & leave absolutely no forensic traces of injury or death except remnant scent?

I take it they have no body, but they have a stick, or a witness who saw a stick.   Yes if the site was cleaned up. and the blow was to the larynx maybe.  Heart can stop and death occur.
"Tracheobronchial injury (TBI) is damage to the tracheobronchial tree (the airway structure involving the trachea and bronchi).[2] It can result from blunt or penetrating trauma to the neck or chest,[3] inhalation of harmful fumes or smoke, or aspiration of liquids or objects.[4]

Though rare, TBI is a serious condition; it may cause obstruction of the airway with resulting life-threatening respiratory insufficiency.[2] Other injuries accompany TBI in about half of cases.[5] Of those people with TBI who die, most do so before receiving emergency care, either from airway obstruction, exsanguination, or from injuries to other vital organs. Of those who do reach a hospital, the mortality rate may be as high as 30%.[6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracheobronchial_injury

[Robittybob1]

I take it they have no body, but they have a stick, or a witness who saw a stick.   Yes if the site was cleaned up. and the blow was to the larynx maybe.  Heart can stop and death occur.
"Tracheobronchial injury (TBI) is damage to the tracheobronchial tree (the airway structure involving the trachea and bronchi).[2] It can result from blunt or penetrating trauma to the neck or chest,[3] inhalation of harmful fumes or smoke, or aspiration of liquids or objects.[4]

Though rare, TBI is a serious condition; it may cause obstruction of the airway with resulting life-threatening respiratory insufficiency.[2] Other injuries accompany TBI in about half of cases.[5] Of those people with TBI who die, most do so before receiving emergency care, either from airway obstruction, exsanguination, or from injuries to other vital organs. Of those who do reach a hospital, the mortality rate may be as high as 30%.[6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracheobronchial_injury

Crushed larynx was what I was really after.

[G-Unit]

You didn't answer the question... Grime said eddie, alerted to CC... I think that's rubbish

You are asking me to judge something I'm not qualified to judge. You are giving your opinion, but Grime's opinion has more value than yours in my opinion.