Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.

[stephen25000]

The inquest is a matter of course

Which means what exactly ?

[Alice Purjorick]

Which means what exactly ?

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/coroners/#a02

"The Coroner is expected to open an inquest where there is reasonable suspicion that the deceased has died a violent or unnatural death, where the cause of death is unknown or if the deceased died while in custody or state detention as defined by section 1(2) of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009".

What is an inquest?
"Inquests are legal inquiries into the cause and circumstances of a death, and are limited, fact-finding inquiries; a Coroner will consider both oral and written evidence during the course of an inquest. The Coroner's duty to hold an inquest is contained in section 6 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009. Inquests are public hearings and can be held with or without juries - both are considered equally valid. Under Rule 8 of the Coroners (Inquest) Rules 2013, Coroners are required to complete an inquest within 6 months of the date on which the Coroner is made aware of the death, or as soon as is reasonably practicable".

[stephen25000]

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/coroners/#a02

"The Coroner is expected to open an inquest where there is reasonable suspicion that the deceased has died a violent or unnatural death, where the cause of death is unknown or if the deceased died while in custody or state detention as defined by section 1(2) of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009".

What is an inquest?
"Inquests are legal inquiries into the cause and circumstances of a death, and are limited, fact-finding inquiries; a Coroner will consider both oral and written evidence during the course of an inquest. The Coroner's duty to hold an inquest is contained in section 6 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009. Inquests are public hearings and can be held with or without juries - both are considered equally valid. Under Rule 8 of the Coroners (Inquest) Rules 2013, Coroners are required to complete an inquest within 6 months of the date on which the Coroner is made aware of the death, or as soon as is reasonably practicable".

Thank you for that Alice.

[Alice Purjorick]

Thank you for that Alice.

I posted about this on the "Brenda" thread.
As I said then The Ministry of Justice and The Chief Coroners Office have a fair bit on it.
It kind of stops some from trying to flimflam others!

[Mr Gray]

I posted about this on the "Brenda" thread.
As I said then The Ministry of Justice and The Chief Coroners Office have a fair bit on it.
It kind of stops some from trying to flimflam others!

as I said the inquest is a matter of course

[Alfred R Jones]

Anyone who seriously believes that an inquest will turn the spotlight on the dossier compilers is seriously deluding themselves...

[ferryman]

Brenda Leyland's unilateral decision to take her own life will have no legal implications for anyone else.

In the chain of cause and effect, you would need to be able to show that there was guilty intent: a (foreseeable and intended) consequence that exposing Brenda Leyland's inexcusable hounding of the McCanns might lead to the tragedy of Brenda taking her own life.

Revelation that Kate was suicidal did nothing to curb the vitriol aimed at Kate and Gerry, including by the late Brenda Leyland.

That's the succinct version, Alfred ...

[stephen25000]

Anyone who seriously believes that an inquest will turn the spotlight on the dossier compilers is seriously deluding themselves...

So alfred, if not for the dossier compilers, would Brenda Leyland  still be alive ?

[ferryman]

So alfred, if not for the dossier compilers, would Brenda Leyland  still be alive ?

Wrong question.

Could the (tragic) consequence of exposing Brenda Leyland's vile activities have been anticipated?

Answer: no!

End of discussion.

Put the question another way.

Should the vile trolls who, to this day, continue to hound the McCanns, be left to continue their hounding unchallenged for fear that challenging them might drive them to suicide?

The answer, very obviously, is no!

[Benice]

So alfred, if not for the dossier compilers, would Brenda Leyland  still be alive ?

As you reminded us yourself - the cause of death has not been established.  Are you now suggesting we should forget that and start speculating and pointing the finger at specific people?

Please clarify.

[Mr Gray]

So alfred, if not for the dossier compilers, would Brenda Leyland  still be alive ?

Would Brenda be alive if she hadn't tweeted 50 tweets a day criticising the mccanns..always trying to blame someone else

[Angelo222]

It is not known what happened to Maddie or whether the original police investigation was flawed or spot on hence speculative posts will be removed.  I for one sincerely hope that those anonymous individual's who abused Brenda Leyland online AFTER her identity was revealed by Martin Brunt are themselves unmasked publicly and appropriate action taken against them.

[Alice Purjorick]

This might be more apposite as it is Leicestershire.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcoroners.leicester.gov.uk%2FEasysiteWeb%2Fgetresource.axd%3FAssetID%3D63613%26type%3Dfull%26servicetype%3DAttachment&ei=h9JMVJboJYXW7Aadi4DoBg&usg=AFQjCNGPrTXU_m3wHSOqPf0rzgYe2efHGw

[Angelo222]

In very simple terms posting "Maddie was abducted" will always be removed whereas "Maddie was abducted imo" can stand but then that has always been the case.  Posters have from the beginning been invited to report all posts which break this cardinal rule so nothing new but a reminder does no harm.

As far as the coroner's court is concerned I don't see the dossier having a significant contribution to proceedings.  In fact I don't see it having any part to play at all even with the police as the threshold of abuse tolerance online these days is very high.  Tit for tat abuse between anonymous warring trolls is not something the police will ever spend resources on imo.

[Mr Gray]

It is not known what happened to Maddie or whether the original police investigation was flawed or spot on hence speculative posts will be removed.  I for one sincerely hope that those anonymous individual's who abused Brenda Leyland online AFTER her identity was revealed by Martin Brunt are themselves unmasked publicly and appropriate action taken against them.

it would be great if all abusive trolls are identified and dealt with