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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #180 on: November 29, 2016, 10:05:09 AM »
Are you actually being serious?  He is in an interview which is being recorded to be shown to the public and he is so amused by it all he gives a smirk?  What would he have to gain by doing that?  Face it - there is no smirk.  Full stop. 

No-one has passed me by unnoticed - so something else you've also got completely wrong.
There there is a smile at the thought of seeing Madeleine alive.  Probably just the thought of seeing her again.
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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #181 on: November 29, 2016, 10:05:49 AM »
There there is a smile at the thought of seeing Madeleine alive.  Probably just the thought of seeing her again.

So when did you see her before ?

Offline Benice

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #182 on: November 29, 2016, 10:05:58 AM »
Any concern for what Madeleine is experiencing and going through? Or is just about themselves?

They are being asked questions specifically about themselves and are answering them.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #183 on: November 29, 2016, 10:08:16 AM »
Any concern for what Madeleine is experiencing and going through? Or is just about themselves?
I have seen interviews where she is concerned for Madeleine.  Kate by faith believes Madeleine is OK so she doesn't need to feel the same concern.  Her faith helps her in that respect.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #184 on: November 29, 2016, 10:09:45 AM »
slightly off topic please focus on Jez and Gerry and how they don't see Jane T.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #185 on: November 29, 2016, 10:13:14 AM »
Are you actually being serious?  He is in an interview which is being recorded to be shown to the public and he is so amused by it all he gives a smirk?  What would he have to gain by doing that?  Face it - there is no smirk.  Full stop. 

No-one has passed me by unnoticed - so something else you've also got completely wrong.

Did you listen to the question being asked when it happened? That is a smirk.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #186 on: November 29, 2016, 10:13:58 AM »
So when did you see her before ?
Gerry smiles not me.  I don't smile ever.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #187 on: November 29, 2016, 10:15:19 AM »
They are being asked questions specifically about themselves and are answering them.

Are you kidding me? Madeleine is the victim they can make that clear to all. "I THINK we both want to find her." What would an analyst make of that?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #188 on: November 29, 2016, 10:18:42 AM »
Are you kidding me? Madeleine is the victim they can make that clear to all. "I THINK we both want to find her." What would an analyst make of that?
She was a noisy kid.  Maybe it really is peaceful without her.  Was this the clue that was left behind in that home video?
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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #189 on: November 29, 2016, 10:19:38 AM »
It seems the Libel Police are on holiday.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #190 on: November 29, 2016, 10:22:30 AM »
Did you listen to the question being asked when it happened? That is a smirk.
Give us the transcription then please.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #191 on: November 29, 2016, 10:28:59 AM »
Gerry And Kate McCann: The Full Interview
 
Aug 10, 2007
 
Sky’s Amanda Walker spoke to Gerry and Kate McCann as the 100th day since their daughter vanished looms. To mark it, Madeleine’s parents are launching a dedicated channel on You Tube to draw attention to missing children across the world.
 
(00:10:06)

Transcript
 
By Nigel Moore
 
Amanda Walker: Kate and Gerry, thank you for joining us on Sky News. Over the past hundred days you’ve conducted a phen… phenomenal awareness campaign which has led to various possible sightings, which have later been dismissed. Just take us through the emotional experience you go through from the moment someone says ‘I’m definite that I’ve seen Madeleine’ to when it’s discounted.
 
Kate McCann: I mean, the main thing for us is knowing if the sighting is credible or not, really. Errm… to be honest we don’t go through that, errm… emotional rollercoaster with regards to the sightings, errm… you know, the only thing that we’ll be happy for is when we know it’s definitely Madeleine but we… we don’t go through the… the ups and downs of that. I mean, the reassuring thing for us is that it implies that people are still looking for Madeleine and that’s… that’s really important and encouraging.
 
Gerry McCann: I think it’s a protection really, that, errr… if you were up and down like that all the time you… you just wouldn’t be able to function, so it comes back, as Kate says, to the credibility.
 
AW: Now, it’s been a tough week for you. The Portuguese press, in particular, seem to be conducting what could be described as a ‘smear campaign’ against you and attempting to put the blame of Madeleine’s disappearance on you. Where are they getting this information from and how do you react to it?
 
GM: Ehhh… we don’t read Portuguese, so, I think that’s the first thing to say that, errr… we haven’t read the, errr… accounts first hand, errr… there does seem to be, errr… a consistency this week – and claims from police sources – but to be perfectly frank we don’t know how much of that is true and how much of it’s speculation. What we do know is that speculation certainly doesn’t help us. We know a number of the facts and, errm… I have not seen any evidence, or know of any direct evidence, to have changed our… our viewpoint to what we have held for the last hundred days and, you know, we’ve said all along and… everything we have done, during the last hundred days, is focussed on, errr… the belief that Madeleine was alive when she was abducted and, errm… certainly, errr… we were encouraged in that respect and, errr… everything we have done is to increase the chances of her being returned.
 
KM: You know, Amanada, I mean, we’ve been through – and are going through – that much pain with not having Madeleine with us that anything that’s written or said, really, is just a minor hurdle in comparison and, errm… we’ll ride through it. We still strongly want to do what we believe’s the right thing to do; what’s the right thing for Madeleine; what’s the right thing for us and at the minute that is to stay and we’re not going to be bullied into… to going home, you know.
 
AW: We’ve witnessed the support that you’ve had in Luz but there is, out there, criticism, not least from your home town; the website for the… the local newspaper; the comments page; a barrage of, errr… comments that were described as spiteful, of defamatory. Were you surprised by that and how did you feel about it?
 
GM: I think again, I… I haven’t actually read the comments and I have no idea who’s written them, errm… we’ve used the Internet to try and raise Madeleine’s awareness, errr… I don’t know who the people are, or what they have specifically written, other than the broad terms that you’ve got.
 
KM: Or what the motives are because anything written like that is really unhelpful, you know.
 
GM: At the end, you know, whatever anyone thinks of, errm… our actions, errm… ultimately in our only focus is trying to find Madeleine and, you know, there’s an innocent child missing. That’s, you know – what anyone thinks – that’s the key thing; Madeleine is missing and we’re just doing our absolute best to maximise the chances of her being found.
 
KM: And anything negative that… that’s written, we’ve had thousands to counteract that, Amanda, I mean, I can’t… I mean, you’ve probably heard but we’ve had that much support from people, errm… I don’t think we can say ‘thank you’ enough, really, I mean that’s been so important and.. and that is the main thing, really, that’s… that far outweighs anything negative.
 
AW: Luz, itself, is a very relaxed, safe-feeling resort and obviously you felt relaxed and safe enough to leave the children to sleep while you went and ate within the complex. Is that something that you’d done on other nights? Is it something you were getting a feeling that other holidaymakers were doing?
 
GM: I can’t really comment about… you know, it’s well known that we were dining at the Tapas Bar, fifty yards away, and, errr… can’t comment too much, errr… in terms of our patterns and our routines given the fact that that’s subject of investigation but, it… it was…
 
KM: I mean, I… as I said before, I mean, we have both said, if we’d had to think for one second that this was taking a risk, it wouldn’t have happened. I mean, that… I think that says how safe we felt, you know.
 
GM: I mean, it was incredibly quiet, errm… family orientated, errr… incredibly close and, errr… you know, we did feel incredibly safe here.
 
KM: And I don’t… I mean, judging on the letters that I’ve had, I mean, I’ve had so many supportive letters from families; from other mothers and they’ve said: ‘Kate, you know, we’ve done that; we do that, you know. Who’d have ever thought that something as horrible as that would happen, you know’.
 
GM: It is incredibly rare what’s happened to us but, errr… I think, you know, way… the way that we’ve talked about it before it felt very similar to dining in your garden and I know that, you know… have you ever left a child li… unattended for any length of time, whether it be you’re downstairs or the child’s upstairs or you went to the garage? You know, errm… if we could turn back the clock, you know, and… and rewind, of course, we would.
 
KM: We’re just sorry we weren’t there at that minute.
 
AW: In terms of staying in Portugal, you’ve both said from the start that you’re not going home until Madeleine is safely back with you. Are you both equally as adamant about that because there have been some suggestions that Kate, you’re the one that really wants to stay, and Gerry, perhaps not so much? What do you see as the benefits of staying and is it true that, perhaps, you want to stay more?
 
GM: I think we both want to find Madeleine and we want to do everything possible to… to help and we felt staying close to the investigation and trying to move that on, errm… and cooperate, errm… was a good thing and that’s, you know… this week and the week before highlights how important that is. It would have been a lot more difficult to progress things if we’d been back in the UK. I think from some practical aspects, errm… in terms of efficiency, I could see benefits of going home but emotionally until we’ve done everything and we need to know what’s happened.
 
AW: Is it difficult for you seeing… because now, you know, Luz itself is a very… it’s in full swing for holiday season. Is it hard to be in your situation surrounded by people on holiday?
 
KM: I just think everyday’s hard, to be honest. I don’t… I don’t think that’s really made it any harder for me, I don’t think. Everyday without Madeleine is, errr… is very hard.
 
GM: I… I think earlier on I was very conscious that, you know, perhaps our grief, misery was… may have been affecting other people and I was not trying to force that on them; was conscious of that, errr… but, you know, the… our own kids help us, errr… keep our feet on the ground and they give us a lot of joy and we have to give them love and attention that they deserve as well, so… and, I… you know, I… I’m not… seeing other people enjoying themselves, I don’t… you know, that’s the way it should be.
 
AW: Now, your campaign has been unprecedented. What’s next?
 
GM: Well, to mark the hundred days, errr… we’ll be launching the YouTube channel, errr… called ‘Don’t You Forget About Me’, errr… which is a channel for missing children and, errr… it’s been a lot of work going on behind the scenes on that and I think it’s a fantastic idea and we’re launching it in collaboration, obviously, with Intenational Center for Missing and Exploited Children and Google themselves, who will be hosting it via YouTube, and, errr…
 
KM: And both of whom have been incredibly supportive and just welcome the idea, so…
 
AW: Is this an indication, going on at a wider scale like this, that, perhaps, you… your hopes are fading for Madeleine, in any way, in that you’re giving it… you know, putting it on a much wider scale rather than this just being about finding Madeleine; it’s about finding other missing children?
 
KM: Naah… I mean, I… I think, you know, from quite early on we’ve obviously wanted to know a little bit more about the scale of the problem and, errm… I mean, it’s massive, actually, I mean… I didn’t realise how little I knew, really, and I think knowing that it’s very hard to turn a blind eye to it, you know, errr… and we just felt if there was anything, obviously… you know, obviously at the minute our priority’s Madeleine but we just felt if there was anything we could do that might help other children; that might make the world that little bit… you know, just a tiny bit safer for children then something good has come out of it.
 
GM: I think it’s a real… something tangible that could benefit other people and give renewed interest to other missing kids as well in a medium that younger people use, errr…. very use… you know, tens of millions of people use YouTube. There were over two hundred and twenty nine videos of Madeleine, errr… on it already.
 
KM: About six weeks ago.
 
GM: You know, so it’s incredible.
 
AW: And Kate, finally, if Madeleine could hear you now, what would you say to her?
 
KM: (laughs) Huhh… I mean, ‘I love you’; she knows that. She knows, how much ‘I love you’… how much we both love her.
 
GM: And we’re still looking for her.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #192 on: November 29, 2016, 10:34:28 AM »
The smile or smirk as you say happens on this sentence doesn't it "Just take us through the emotional experience you go through from the moment someone says ‘I’m definite that I’ve seen Madeleine’ to when it’s discounted.
Most noticeable when she says "moment someone says ‘I’m definite that I’ve seen Madeleine"
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Offline Brietta

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #193 on: November 29, 2016, 10:36:56 AM »
Looks like it's about time for all off topic posts to be sent to that big dustbin in the sky ... please note, the thread topic concerns Gerry and Jez and why they failed to see Jane passing in the street.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #194 on: November 29, 2016, 10:45:12 AM »
Jez' rogatory statement:No friendship there.
Well that can't be down by the gate for he says he had just left the street and needed to cross the road to talk to Gerry.  This makes me feel that Gerry left by the front door and walked around the corner and back down the street.  So that makes them right up by the intersection.  So the assumption Gerry was heading back to Tapas but he could also re-enter his apartment via the side gate and patio door.

Using Hyatt's technique I'd say Jez was jealous of Gerry   That was the grudge between them, well part of it.

I'll have to study a diagram of where Jez said they were.
Is there a diagram of where Jez said they were?
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