How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?

[Robittybob1]

Rob, who says that Gerry turned the lighgt onn in the bedroom?  I cannot remember seeing that.  With light streaming in from the living room via the open door, Gerry should have been well able to see the features of his children.

You are incorrect, IMO, about the abductor necessarily being in the apartment with Gerry.  That is a possibility but also it is a possibility that given a go ahead signal immediately Gerry left, that the abductor went in immediately.   As I kave pouinted out in the previous few posts, there was plenty of time to sedate Madeleine and remove her via the front door , then pass her over to Tannerman.

Plenty of time.

It was a discovery we made on the forum http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7846.msg371162#msg371162

You could be right the kidnapper was outside.  All I'm pointing out he wasn't in the kid's bedroom while Gerry was in there.

[sadie]

Well Crecheman would have been going in the other direction for a starter and the pyjamas didn't really look like Madeleine's, so it was effectively rubbishing Jane as a witness. 
But who invented Crecheman?

Let's not forget that Crechman suddenly appeared on the scene years after the event.  Where did he suddenly come from ?

[sadie]

Crecheman was invented in 2007 from what I've read, but the PJ didn't follow it up.  Immediately it becomes a hot potato.

OK, so supposedly he was 'invented' in 2007.  What real proof do we have of that?

And why was he walking in the wrong direction?

[Robittybob1]

OK, so supposedly he was 'invented' in 2007.  What real proof do we have of that?

And why was he walking in the wrong direction?

We have to believe Redwood for he says it in the CrimeWatch program.  He could possibly confirm that in the retained file.  What direction was he walking?  I don't think the program actually said.  It would depend where he was residing and whether he got lost etc.

It is generally accepted if he was coming back from the night creche (without being lost) he would most likely be walking in the opposite direction of the man seen by Jane.

[sadie]

No, not at all.
She was just shown to be mistaken in the detail. She was, after all, pretty vague about what he looked like and what he carried, particularly to begin with. Remember Eggman?
Crecheman removed any need for SY to call her an out and out liar.  Brilliant 

Eggman, at the time so loudly derided by foolish small minded sceptics, was a fine idea.

If Jane didn't see his face, then it would have been totally wrong to draw another persons features in.

It was a case of, by necessity, either 'eggman' or 'no head man'.   A good impression of Tannermans body and clothes was drawn and also the urgency of movement was well displayed in the image.   That was far better than no image.

THe lack of features was not ideal, but it was better than imposing incorrect features

[sadie]

It was a discovery we made on the forum http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7846.msg371162#msg371162

You could be right the kidnapper was outside.  All I'm pointing out he wasn't in the kid's bedroom while Gerry was in there.

I see what you mean.  Thanks Rob.

[Alfie]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568706/Madeleine-Tapas-Two-want-to-change-story.html

LOL.  An article in the Telegraph using a "free" story from a Spanish newspaper that pre-dates the rogatories?  I hope you haven't invested too much hope in this story coming true 10 years later.
Now, let's just imagine JT had information against Gerry and that's why the Met had to invent crecheman (I laugh even typing such a ludicrous scenario) - wouldn't it be the case that if one of the Tapas 7 made a credible claim of criminal activity on the part of Gerry McCann that the PJ would want to make him an arguido again in order to question him about these allegations?  Or are they all being so laid back about it that they've decided not to bother until some other evidence falls in their laps?

[ferryman]

It really is beneath the pale that these stories from way before the files were released should appear on this board.

[jassi]

Do you not feel we have more than enough censorship ?

[faithlilly]

LOL.  An article in the Telegraph using a "free" story from a Spanish newspaper that pre-dates the rogatories?  I hope you haven't invested too much hope in this story coming true 10 years later.
Now, let's just imagine JT had information against Gerry and that's why the Met had to invent crecheman (I laugh even typing such a ludicrous scenario) - wouldn't it be the case that if one of the Tapas 7 made a credible claim of criminal activity on the part of Gerry McCann that the PJ would want to make him an arguido again in order to question him about these allegations?  Or are they all being so laid back about it that they've decided not to bother until some other evidence falls in their laps?

Who knows what's happening behind the scenes. Do you?

[Alfie]

Who knows what's happening behind the scenes. Do you?

Common sense and logic dictate that your scenario is some miles wide of the mark.  But if you want to play wild and outlandish speculation games then fill your boots.

[faithlilly]

Common sense and logic dictate that your scenario is some miles wide of the mark.  But if you want to play wild and outlandish speculation games then fill your boots.

That'll be a no then.

[Alfie]

That'll be a no then.

You may think that, I couldn't possibly comment 

[Robittybob1]

You may think that, I couldn't possibly comment 

Did Jez have his dark glasses on?
Should he have gone to SpecSavers?

[Robittybob1]

One thing that Jane found confusing was that she thought Jez was standing with the pushchair downhill, which to her seemed to be the wrong way if he was heading back to his apartment.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm
Reply    “Again, I almost think I can remember it pointing down the road but if he was going back to his apartment it would have been pointing up the road so I don’t know, but.”
4078    “Your mind’s trying to make sense of what you even know.”

Should the interviewer have said this?    “Your mind’s trying to make sense of what you even know.”