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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #750 on: March 03, 2018, 10:01:08 PM »
Maggie may I remind you that you adopted 2 babies from Sri Lanka in the mid 80's - late 80's.  These adoptions are known as international adoptions and have unique features in terms of ethnicity  and race.  Please do not confuse other types of adoption eg domestic closed adoptions from the so-called baby scoop era.  If you want to make comparisons you need to compare apples with apples not apples with pears!

It would also help if you could quote from reliable sources using peer reviewed research and studies.

All the research shows maternal depression has an adverse affect on babies/children including the risk of forming an insecure attachment eg disorganised attachment putting the baby/child at risk in adult life of a  propensity towards aggression, violence, suicide and filicide.  Having adopted SC, June suffered severe depression requiring in-patient psychiatric care and ECT treatment.  I would suggest this was not your typical adoptive mother.  I doubt you will find any relevant expert anywhere who disagrees but if it makes you happy you keep beating the drum.  June didn't suffer depression or any mental illness requiring in-patient psychiatric care when JB was a baby/child and it's this that sets the 2 adoptees apart. 

You have no experience of domestic closed adoptions from the so-called baby scoop era. 

If you're that interested, and it seems to be the only forum topic that interests you enough to emerge from your 'hidden' status, I would suggest you look at David Brodzinsky's book:  The psychology of adoption and skip Nancy Verrier's: The Primal Wound.   

There's no evidence JB had the sort of emotional problems you want to pin on him nor that JB/SC were looking for love and were heavy drug users.  Why don't you just stick to the facts?!
« Last Edit: March 03, 2018, 10:03:25 PM by Holly Goodhead »
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #751 on: March 31, 2018, 08:11:14 PM »
Just been reading Blue:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9305.msg436087.html#msg436087

I see Nelly has inserted a double rr in powerful!  I ask myself is this a typo or a Freudian slip with his finger lingering longer than necessary on the 'r' as in grrr and indicative of someone power hungry  *%87
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #752 on: March 31, 2018, 08:16:34 PM »
Just been reading Blue:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9305.msg436087.html#msg436087

I see Nelly has inserted a double rr in powerful!  I ask myself is this a typo or a Freudian slip with his finger lingering longer than necessary on the 'r' as in grrr and indicative of someone power hungry  *%87

I think Nelly is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks for a moment that Julie Mugford's evidence will ever be retracted.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #753 on: March 31, 2018, 11:55:53 PM »
I think Nelly is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks for a moment that Julie Mugford's evidence will ever be retracted.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #754 on: April 02, 2018, 11:29:54 PM »
Steve_uk to Mike Tesco

Mike's claims "Phenomena is attracted to my mindset"

 8@??)(
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #755 on: April 07, 2018, 12:08:56 PM »
Oh and Roch unlike when you were a mod I recognise I have two separate roles:

- Poster - where I post my own case related views. 

- Moderator - where I endeavour to act impartially regardless of my own personal case related views.

Before casting aspersions here I would look at the company you keep on Blue.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9319.msg436579.html#msg436579

Why not call by sometime and share your pearls of wisdom?   ?>)()<
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #756 on: April 14, 2018, 02:18:25 PM »
LM stated the following: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9373.msg437254.html#msg437254

"I may need to reach for my tin foil hat, and I hesitate to say this as I’m not naturally one for conspiracy theories, but is it completely inconceivable that Essex Police, or perhaps the Metropolitan Police, might have recruited a civilian or even assigned one of their own officers to post on boards like this and promote an anti-Bamber perspective, the aim being to divert and discourage discussion?  You can imagine that such an operator would be obnoxious and repetitive, and would lie about the case and flame other posters.  Another intriguing thought is that some of the screen handles on here might not be just one individual, but might be several perhaps working to an organised agenda.

It’s not as far-fetched as it sounds.  The Israeli Defence Force have a very large social media operation: their operators are known as hasbara.

I know quite a lot about the police and the way they work internally, and they do have covert media operations and, if there is a significant cover-up of wrong-doing, then it wouldn’t surprise me if they have individuals on the payroll to ‘manage perceptions’ and alert them to case developments.

Probably not, I’m probably allowing my imagination to run away with me.  It’s just a thought.

What does prompt me to think along those lines is that, I have to say this, some anti-Bamber posters seem like very queer people.  I’m neutral about Jeremy Bamber, but I can well understand somebody like Mike becoming committed to overturning the conviction.  It’s the sort of thing that people do campaign about, and I’m willing to give people like Mike and Nigel considerable leeway because I can comprehend why somebody would become impassioned in such a cause. 

What’s baffling me is the other side of it.  It’s not as usual for people to become obsessed with wanting to keep somebody in prison and suppress or divert discussion of the case and lie about it – unless you’re a member of the family or working for the police, then it would make sense.



Appear like psychological projections to me

LM comes across like a hardcore Jeremy Bamber supporter in the guise of fence sitter.. Just saying.. (It's usually Bamber or Roch who comes out with the conspiracy theories)

How on earth could a right thinking, reasonably minded person even suggest Jeremy Bamber is so important that Essex police or any other agency would waste anymore time, energy or resources to spread such ridiculous nonsense about a mass murderer serving a full life tariff? Get real!

LM you propoganda is as see through now as it was once you gave yourself away. By all means pay Holly further compliments in the hope she'll side with you, but do me a favour and drop me out; you're only kidding yourself (and David)
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #757 on: April 18, 2018, 10:26:15 AM »
Oh and Roch unlike when you were a mod I recognise I have two separate roles:

- Poster - where I post my own case related views. 

- Moderator - where I endeavour to act impartially regardless of my own personal case related views.

Before casting aspersions here I would look at the company you keep on Blue.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9319.msg436579.html#msg436579

What does that tell you?
Why not call by sometime and share your pearls of wisdom?   ?>)()<

Ignore him Holly, his irrational behaviour gets worse by the day. He's updated his profile to include the footer;

"When Jeremy Bamber bakes a cake for Steph... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPufB6oaJFE

What does that tell you?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 02:17:22 PM by Stephanie »
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #758 on: April 18, 2018, 11:59:22 AM »
Steve_uk to Mike Tesco

Mike's claims "Phenomena is attracted to my mindset"

 8@??)(

Mike is such a moron!

How many accounts are the mods moderating of his and why do they stay?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #759 on: April 19, 2018, 02:00:22 PM »
Mike is such a moron!

How many accounts are the mods moderating of his and why do they stay?

His psychological projections continue, "Essex police dug themselves into a hole that was impossible to climb back out of" http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9383.msg437615/topicseen.html#msg437615

No Mike! You and Jeremy Bamber dug your own holes which were impossible to climb back out of!!

"Your cleaver b........!" said Jeremy. He really knew how to stroke your ago and you knew how to stroke his. Monetary gain was what you had in common, along with many other dysfunctional personality traits. 

No ones interested Mike and haven't been for years!
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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #760 on: April 19, 2018, 10:26:35 PM »
Roch re the Mark Dallagher case:

Expert evidence at Trial

As the judge pointed out to the jury, the expertise of ear print comparison “is in its relative infancy” and not many people have become involved with it. Mr Van Der Lugt’s conclusion was that “he was sure that these ear prints were made by this defendant”. Professor Vanezis considered that conclusion to be “highly likely”. So the judge directed the jury as follows –
“If you are sure that Mr Van Der Lugt’s evidence is correct and you accept it then you would be entitled to convict on his evidence alone.Professor Vanezis gave strong evidence, but was not as positive as Mr Van Lugt, it is for you to evaluate his evidence. If you rejected Mr Van Der Lugt’s evidence but accepted Professor Vanezis’ evidence then it is for you to decide whether on the basis of that evidence alone you could be sure that these were this defendant’s ear prints. ..... I direct you that if you reject Mr Van Der Lugt’s evidence and you reject all the other supporting evidence you should not convict this defendant on Professor Vanezis’s evidence alone.”


http://netk.net.au/UK/Dallagher.asp

Anyhow I will leave you and David to your conspiracy theories.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber forum - full stop idle or return?
« Reply #761 on: April 20, 2018, 11:42:07 AM »
Oh and Roch I think you're overlooking:

As the judge pointed out to the jury, the expertise of ear print comparison “is in its relative infancy”...

Ear print comparison was in it's infancy.  You believe Dr Vanezis overlooked minor surface wounds to victims which is basic routine work for pathologists.  Akin to a carpenter hammering nails in planks.  Talking of planks you and David seem like 2 peas in a pod with your wcranky theories 8(0(*

Why would Dr Vanezis overlook what you claim are minor superficial wounds and yet observe and document all manner of unrelated matters such as stretch marks, scars from breast augmentation, tampon inserted and nicotine stains?  Maybe you've spent too much time on Blue with Mike?  Why not sign up here?  A warm welcome awaits!   

Ear print comparison could perhaps be compared with 'drawback' where Fletcher told the court:

457. Mr Fletcher, the firearms expert, gave evidence to explain how blood got into the moderator if it was attached, or into the barrel if there was no moderator attached. He said that the mechanism was complicated and not then fully appreciated".



Justice for Sheila and Jeremy. Victims of poorly arranged baby scoop era adoptions. Australia has apologised. Time for the UK to do the same?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hVbokTpYeg http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2012-13/92