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Offline sadie

Yet again.

It was dark and it was not the back garden.

They were there to drink , eat and talk.
You have the order wrong stephen .... surprise surpise!

IMHO, Their main purpose was to eat and be with friends.  The wine was incedental and is the norm with a restaurant meal

Yep it was dark, but the patio area was illuminated by the street light opposite, so tht was light
« Last Edit: September 14, 2017, 07:02:12 AM by Slartibartfast »
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You have the order wrong stephen .... surprise surpise!

IMHO, Their main purpose was to eat and be with friends.  The wine was incedental and is the norm with a restaurant meal

Yep it was dark, but the patio area was illuminated by the street light opposite, so tht was light

Why do you bother Sadie, you know I don't believe you.

Have you forgotten about the free booze as well ?

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Why do you bother Sadie, you know I don't believe you.

Have you forgotten about the free booze as well ?
What free booze?
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Offline pathfinder73

"wine was free, you know, you could have as much as you like."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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"wine was free, you know, you could have as much as you like."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm
Maybe she thought it was free.  I thought someone had to pay for that by credit card! 
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Offline Angelo222

You have the order wrong stephen .... surprise surpise!

IMHO, Their main purpose was to eat and be with friends.  The wine was incedental and is the norm with a restaurant meal

Yep it was dark, but the patio area was illuminated by the street light opposite, so tht was light

Just a part of the patio was illuminated by the street light opposite, some of it was in relative darkness, a bit like the knowledge being displayed by some posters.
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Offline pathfinder73

Maybe she thought it was free.  I thought someone had to pay for that by credit card!

"All the meals were included in the booking as was a limited choice in drinks, if anything else was ordered there may have been a need to have made an additional payment."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Wine was free with your free meal and it was mostly consumed by the group.

« Last Edit: September 14, 2017, 02:52:54 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

First of all the table used by the T9 was not necessarily in the restaurant;

our table in the Tapas bar...... I drew a seating plan of the Tapas bar......
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Secondly the group could have been drinking before the meal. Suggesting that the only drinks consumed were the free wine is misleading because there is evidence that the group drank other drinks as well. As Jane said, it wasn't unusual to drink alcohol as early as kid's high tea. Unusually she didn't at the Paraiso;

I think normally I probably would have at that time of day thought ‘It’s time for a beer’.  But, no, I had an orange juice
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Fiona says they had a beer at the Paraiso;

we didn't eat, and we all had a beer.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

'I think by the time we arrived, there was wine on the table, cos that's generally what the waiters brought as soon as you arrived anyway, cos you, with your meal got a bottle of wine per couple or something like that free with your meal, so that was (inaudible) on, so I think yeah that was already there but there was no food'.


some people drank beer or asked for a beer on certain nights
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm






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Offline pathfinder73

4078    “And what about the rest of the group, can you comment on what they were drinking?”

Reply    “Erm, no, we just tended to stick with, because the wine was included, we tended to stick with just the, the wine that was given, so.  I’ll tell you, the person who drank most of the wine was actually Fiona’s mum, Dianne was the, was the biggest drinker of the lot of us actually, which is quite”.  @)(++(*

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Netflix are on a roll with "unsolved mystery" type programmes.

Reaction to JonBenét Ramsays murder and Madeleine's disappearance seem to have followed the same path in many ways and are now firmly enshrined as entertainment.
Entertainment for us ... immeasurable grief and horror for the family.  I think it reminiscent of Roman damnatio ad bestias.

Quote
"It became an entertainment event for a lot of the media, sadly...It boosted ratings, attracted viewers, to develop that controversy."

"You know the pain, the intense pain that we felt was the loss of our child. The accusations and the finger pointing weren't significant. We were deeply crushed by the loss of our child, particularly in the manner that it happened."
John Ramsay
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/0/casting-jonbenet-controversial-new-netflix-movie-murder-case/

'Casting JonBenet' received rave reviews and currently has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 100%. 

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According to the reviews, some scenes are played for dark humour, while the film also features a sequence in which the young actors auditioning for the role of Burke (JonBenet's brother) violently shatter watermelons, to demonstrate whether or not they would have had the strength to smash JonBenet's skull.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/0/casting-jonbenet-controversial-new-netflix-movie-murder-case/

Kate and Gerry have declined to participate in a Netflix documentary on Madeleine. Which in my opinion is an eminently sensible course of action to take.





 
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Alice Purjorick

Netflix are on a roll with "unsolved mystery" type programmes.

Reaction to JonBenét Ramsays murder and Madeleine's disappearance seem to have followed the same path in many ways and are now firmly enshrined as entertainment.
Entertainment for us ... immeasurable grief and horror for the family.  I think it reminiscent of Roman damnatio ad bestias.

Quote
"It became an entertainment event for a lot of the media, sadly...It boosted ratings, attracted viewers, to develop that controversy."

"You know the pain, the intense pain that we felt was the loss of our child. The accusations and the finger pointing weren't significant. We were deeply crushed by the loss of our child, particularly in the manner that it happened."
John Ramsay
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/0/casting-jonbenet-controversial-new-netflix-movie-murder-case/

'Casting JonBenet' received rave reviews and currently has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 100%. 

Snip
According to the reviews, some scenes are played for dark humour, while the film also features a sequence in which the young actors auditioning for the role of Burke (JonBenet's brother) violently shatter watermelons, to demonstrate whether or not they would have had the strength to smash JonBenet's skull.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/0/casting-jonbenet-controversial-new-netflix-movie-murder-case/

Kate and Gerry have declined to participate in a Netflix documentary on Madeleine. Which in my opinion is an eminently sensible course of action to take.

Why jump off a successful bandwagon?
As long as the viewer realises it is a bandwagon therefore unlikely to reveal anything of earth shattering importance.
Jon Pilger(remember Jon Pilger?) always prefaced his pieces with "This is only my opinion" or some such.
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Offline sadie

First of all the table used by the T9 was not necessarily in the restaurant;

our table in the Tapas bar...... I drew a seating plan of the Tapas bar......
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Secondly the group could have been drinking before the meal. Suggesting that the only drinks consumed were the free wine is misleading because there is evidence that the group drank other drinks as well. As Jane said, it wasn't unusual to drink alcohol as early as kid's high tea. Unusually she didn't at the Paraiso;

I think normally I probably would have at that time of day thought ‘It’s time for a beer’.  But, no, I had an orange juice
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Fiona says they had a beer at the Paraiso;

we didn't eat, and we all had a beer.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

'I think by the time we arrived, there was wine on the table, cos that's generally what the waiters brought as soon as you arrived anyway, cos you, with your meal got a bottle of wine per couple or something like that free with your meal, so that was (inaudible) on, so I think yeah that was already there but there was no food'.


some people drank beer or asked for a beer on certain nights
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
Tapas Bar instead of Tapas Restarant is the same sort of simple error as confusing the back door with the front door.   

I remember in the early days on here watching in horror as different posters used the term Front door for the patio door.   I personally made a stance about it, reminding people that we would get nowhere if some were calling the patio door the Front door when it actually was the back door.

Russell meant the Tapas Restaurant cos there are so many statements that mention them dining in the Restaurant rather than the Tapas Bar.   There is too much evidence to the contrary to try and claim that the Tapas group ate in the Bar.  So I suggest that you just drop it Gunit.   I realise that the reason that you are pushing the Bar is because you want to paint the Tapas group as a group of boozers.  Anything to get at The Mccanns , eh?

No-one ever suggested that any of the group were ever inebriated.  In fact, I think it was Jeronimo who commented that they were always moderate.  Like anyone at dinner at a restaurant, they accompanied the meal with wine, but never got even tipsy as far as we are aware.


Btw, moderate drinks spread out over the day do not make people tipsy .. and as they were never reported as even tipsy, I think that we can safely assume that their alcohol intake was VERY moderate

AIMHO


« Last Edit: September 14, 2017, 09:43:47 PM by sadie »
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Offline sadie

Netflix are on a roll with "unsolved mystery" type programmes.

Reaction to JonBenét Ramsays murder and Madeleine's disappearance seem to have followed the same path in many ways and are now firmly enshrined as entertainment.
Entertainment for us ... immeasurable grief and horror for the family.  I think it reminiscent of Roman damnatio ad bestias.

Quote
"It became an entertainment event for a lot of the media, sadly...It boosted ratings, attracted viewers, to develop that controversy."

"You know the pain, the intense pain that we felt was the loss of our child. The accusations and the finger pointing weren't significant. We were deeply crushed by the loss of our child, particularly in the manner that it happened."
John Ramsay
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/0/casting-jonbenet-controversial-new-netflix-movie-murder-case/

'Casting JonBenet' received rave reviews and currently has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 100%. 

Snip
According to the reviews, some scenes are played for dark humour, while the film also features a sequence in which the young actors auditioning for the role of Burke (JonBenet's brother) violently shatter watermelons, to demonstrate whether or not they would have had the strength to smash JonBenet's skull.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/on-demand/0/casting-jonbenet-controversial-new-netflix-movie-murder-case/

Kate and Gerry have declined to participate in a Netflix documentary on Madeleine. Which in my opinion is an eminently sensible course of action to take.


How dreadful.

So the psychological torture of the Mccanns looks like being cranked up a notch or few then.

How some sadists will enjoy that.

IMO
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"All the meals were included in the booking as was a limited choice in drinks, if anything else was ordered there may have been a need to have made an additional payment."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Wine was free with your free meal and it was mostly consumed by the group.
Stand corrected.
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Offline sadie

"All the meals were included in the booking as was a limited choice in drinks, if anything else was ordered there may have been a need to have made an additional payment."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Wine was free with your free meal and it was mostly consumed by the group.
The meals were not free.  They had taken a package where the meals including some wine was paid for in advance.

This enabled the Ocean Club to fill their dining seats and make a steady profit ... and enabled the guests to get a better dining deal cos the food and drink was less expensive this way.  They also did not have to carry money or cards with them.  All paid for in advance

Rob, these package deals may not be available in NZ, but they are common in the UK.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2017, 10:06:35 PM by Slartibartfast »
Darren Osbourne  IDIOT

Only in my opinion, of course