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Offline Angelo222

Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« on: April 05, 2018, 03:06:02 PM »
Scotland Yards investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has failed absymally to turn up any significant new evidence.  Over £11 million has been spent in the search for the missing youngster and still nobody has been arrested in connection with any crime.  SY are no doubt severely embarrassed by their inability to bring anything new to the case.

Is it about time Operation Grange was shut down?
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Offline John

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2018, 03:19:59 PM »
Scotland Yards investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has failed absymally to turn up any significant new evidence.  Over £11 million has been spent in the search for the missing youngster and still nobody has been arrested in connection with any crime.  SY are no doubt severely embarrassed by their inability to bring anything new to the case.

Is it about time Operation Grange was shut down?

They should make public their findings IMO.
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Offline Davel

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2018, 03:32:26 PM »
They should make public their findings IMO.
I agree it would certainly  help but are they limited by the Portuguese  secrecy
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Offline John

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 03:42:27 PM »
I agree it would certainly  help but are they limited by the Portuguese  secrecy

That never stopped Redwood.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 04:30:24 PM »
Scotland Yards investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has failed absymally to turn up any significant new evidence.  Over £11 million has been spent in the search for the missing youngster and still nobody has been arrested in connection with any crime.  SY are no doubt severely embarrassed by their inability to bring anything new to the case.

Is it about time Operation Grange was shut down?

Effectively it is isn't it?
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Offline barrier

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 04:33:17 PM »
Scotland Yards investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has failed absymally to turn up any significant new evidence.  Over £11 million has been spent in the search for the missing youngster and still nobody has been arrested in connection with any crime.  SY are no doubt severely embarrassed by their inability to bring anything new to the case.

Is it about time Operation Grange was shut down?

Is there an active investigation? the latest monies didn't even have a figure,it could any thing up to £150,000 I believe the Mail said,meaning it could be pretty low.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2018, 04:35:45 PM by barrier »
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2018, 04:51:18 PM »
Is there an active investigation? the latest monies didn't even have a figure,it could any thing up to £150,000 I believe the Mail said,meaning it could be pretty low.

Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that you can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time?
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2018, 05:19:15 PM »
OG will not make any part of the investigation public. Whether the Portuguese do is another matter.

I myself think we’ll have a conclusion.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2018, 05:27:39 PM »
Is there an active investigation? the latest monies didn't even have a figure,it could any thing up to £150,000 I believe the Mail said,meaning it could be pretty low.

In this day and age 150 grand don't buy many bodies with their associated overheads for very long.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2018, 05:50:50 PM »
Scotland Yards investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has failed absymally to turn up any significant new evidence.  Over £11 million has been spent in the search for the missing youngster and still nobody has been arrested in connection with any crime.  SY are no doubt severely embarrassed by their inability to bring anything new to the case.

Is it about time Operation Grange was shut down?
I'm still not sure how you guys are all in the know about what Operation Grange have and haven't uncovered.  Do you get regular private briefings with them or what?
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Offline barrier

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2018, 05:56:21 PM »
In this day and age 150 grand don't buy many bodies with their associated overheads for very long.

The strange thing with that was the sudden increase from £80+ grand up to £154,000.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2018, 06:06:44 PM »
Scotland Yards investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has failed absymally to turn up any significant new evidence.  Over £11 million has been spent in the search for the missing youngster and still nobody has been arrested in connection with any crime.  SY are no doubt severely embarrassed by their inability to bring anything new to the case.

Is it about time Operation Grange was shut down?
A better question IMO  would be: despite the fact that the Met has said that there is still an investigative opportunity which may lead to the discovery of Madeleine McCann or at least what happened to her, is it time to close down Operation Grange because enough money has already been spent?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2018, 06:17:30 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
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Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2018, 08:34:42 PM »
A better question IMO  would be: despite the fact that the Met has said that there is still an investigative opportunity which may lead to the discovery of Madeleine McCann or at least what happened to her, is it time to close down Operation Grange because enough money has already been spent?
The lesson to the police departments as to how to solve this sort of crime is going to be more valuable than the 11 million spent so far.

I just hope someone is learning from the mistakes.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2018, 08:37:40 AM »
The lesson to the police departments as to how to solve this sort of crime is going to be more valuable than the 11 million spent so far.

I just hope someone is learning from the mistakes.

Unless the case is solved there will be no lessons to be learned except perhaps the inadvisability of trying to solve a crime which was committed 4 years previously and 1,500 miles away. I would imagine there's no such thing as a perfect investigation, there will always be mistakes.
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Re: Should Operation Grange be wound up as SY face defeat?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2018, 08:51:57 AM »
Unless the case is solved there will be no lessons to be learned except perhaps the inadvisability of trying to solve a crime which was committed 4 years previously and 1,500 miles away. I would imagine there's no such thing as a perfect investigation, there will always be mistakes.
I was just working through the implications of  locking down the home of a missing child the moment the child is reported missing.  Imagine if the first step of the GNR was to find alternative accommodation for the McCanns?
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