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Offline Holly Goodhead

This thread is strictly to discuss and debate cases where members of adoptive families have either murdered within, including adopted adults murdering their own biological children, or have murdered a member(s) of the connected biological family..

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/13/north-carolina-incest-father-told-mother-killed-daughter-wife-and-their-child-in-shocking-911-call.html
 
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/04/12/victims-apparent-double-murder-suicide-identified-father-daughter-incest-couple/23409969/

Offline Holly Goodhead

I do recall reading a book (a rarity in itself for me) entitled 'The Primal Wound' which contained a section on 'genetic sexual attraction' (GSA).  This is supposedly where adult adoptees reunite with their birth parents and fall in love!  I'm pleased to say this didn't happen to me.

Page 8:

http://www.scstrust.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Birth-Relatives-Information-Pack-2017.pdf

However there's no getting away from the fact these reunions and relationships are complex.  I do wonder how SC coped reuniting with her BM which coincidentally took place a few weeks before the tragedy at WHF.

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This article highlights Bambers case https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/anatomy-of-family-murder-killing-spree-home-invasion-a7639966.html

though I'm unsure if in the other cases they were adopted; you would need to research that I guess
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I do recall reading a book (a rarity in itself for me) entitled 'The Primal Wound' which contained a section on 'genetic sexual attraction' (GSA).  This is supposedly where adult adoptees reunite with their birth parents and fall in love!  I'm pleased to say this didn't happen to me.

Page 8:

http://www.scstrust.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Birth-Relatives-Information-Pack-2017.pdf

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43747225

However there's no getting away from the fact these reunions and relationships are complex.  I do wonder how SC coped reuniting with her BM which coincidentally took place a few weeks before the tragedy at WHF.

http://people.com/crime/father-incest-biological-daughter-kills-3-murder-suicide/

How do you think Jeremy Bamber felt knowing there would be no such reunion in his case. His bio parents weren't interested, as you know.

It's more often than not the men who murder in these cases Holly. Women tend to internalise their emotions; men on the other hand can become violent and murder.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/20/man-who-murdered-adopted-daughter-was-jekyll-and-hyde-character

Are these cases similar to families without connection to adoption?  Or does adoption pose additional problems and risks of something going seriously awry? 

Offline Holly Goodhead

This article highlights Bambers case https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/anatomy-of-family-murder-killing-spree-home-invasion-a7639966.html

though I'm unsure if in the other cases they were adopted; you would need to research that I guess

Thanks but I can't open the link.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/20/man-who-murdered-adopted-daughter-was-jekyll-and-hyde-character

Are these cases similar to families without connection to adoption?  Or does adoption pose additional problems and risks of something going seriously awry?

I only have experience of Simon Hall and you've made it clear you aren't interested in his case so I'm going to leave you to it Holly  8((()*/
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Offline Holly Goodhead

http://people.com/crime/father-incest-biological-daughter-kills-3-murder-suicide/

How do you think Jeremy Bamber felt knowing there would be no such reunion in his case. His bio parents weren't interested, as you know.

It's more often than not the men who murder in these cases Holly. Women tend to internalise their emotions; men on the other hand can become violent and murder.

Thanks.  The link relates to the case above.

According to JB's birth parents they rejected his attempts to reunite, post last appeal I believe, on the basis they believe he's guilty of the crimes convicted of.

Offline Eleanor

Didn't Freud say something about Mothers and Sons and Fathers and Daughters? 

Not something that ever made any sense to me, but it certainly does happen between Fathers and Daughters, although almost always motivated by the father, often forcibly.

In this case there was no long standing relationship when she was a child, so possibly something to do him having first chosen her mother, a likeness perhaps.

Biologically it is not a good idea so there must be something that prevents the majority from even thinking about this.  And something not quite right with those who do.

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Thanks but I can't open the link.

Try googling-

 the anatomy of family murder and the warning signs and signals to look out for

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Didn't Freud say something about Mothers and Sons and Fathers and Daughters? 

Not something that ever made any sense to me, but it certainly does happen between Fathers and Daughters, although almost always motivated by the father, often forcibly.

In this case there was no long standing relationship when she was a child, so possibly something to do him having first chosen her mother, a likeness perhaps.

Biologically it is not a good idea so there must be something that prevents the majority from even thinking about this.  And something not quite right with those who do.

Yes I think you're right.  Something to do with psychosocial development that prevents most family members feeling sexually attracted to other members.  Obviously these reunions miss out on all of this. 

Offline Holly Goodhead

I only have experience of Simon Hall and you've made it clear you aren't interested in his case so I'm going to leave you to it Holly  8((()*/

I didn't say I wasn't interested in SH's case per se Stephanie.  I said this thread is about triad members: adoptees, adopters and biological parents murdering within the triad.  And adoptees who murder their birth children. 


Offline Holly Goodhead

Try googling-

 the anatomy of family murder and the warning signs and signals to look out for

Thanks.  Will do. 

Offline Holly Goodhead

Here's a case where an adoptee murdered her birth children.  Her ex-partner commented:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rachel-james-grieving-dad-hits-123282

Marc said: “She decided to find her real mum in America and that’s when she began to flip.”

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I didn't say I wasn't interested in SH's case per se Stephanie.  I said this thread is about triad members: adoptees, adopters and biological parents murdering within the triad.  And adoptees who murder their birth children.

Simon Hall alledged his victim represented his adoptive mother? Why didn't he murder his adoptive mother; why choose someone who allegedly represented her?

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