Shane Mitchell’s whereabouts during the course of the entire evening?

[Nicholas]

gordo30
The misinformation you talk about is clearly a mother who didn't know the basic things about her daughter because she was preoccupied with something, the daughters appearsnce, where she was going and with who, it was a series of guesses about these factors given what happened that evening it's not unusual for someone to want to provide information that may help find her daughters killer.
It did however start the police down a route that made them lose sight of the case objectively. https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg386929.html#msg386929


 

“JuJ told the police Luke would come to the house for Jodi either on foot or on his bike”

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
The aunts' public appeal:

The only thing helping the family through its grief was the hope that her killer might be caught.

Might be caught? The entire community by then was in "Get the b**tard" mode - no ifs, buts or maybes - the killer was definitely going to be caught, it was only a matter of time.

"Obviously this is a very difficult time for the family but we hope that by making this public appeal someone who may know what happened to Jodi or has information for the police will come forward

They knew what happened to Jodi. By then, everybody did. The information they were seeking was who did it, and why?

"The family is asking everyone to examine their conscience and share with the police any doubts about someone they know who has been acting strangely, or out of character."

This is 10 days after JF claimed his Gran (the mother of the two aunts making the appeal) told him not to go to the police and tell them he had been on the path. The same JF who, by then, had hacked off his own hair. People had already given statements to the police about JF "acting strangely" immediately after the murder.

Speaking on JuJ's behalf, they said (for her)

"I believe someone at this time is still in turmoil over doubts they have about someone close to them. They just do not accept that this person, someone they know, is capable of such a thing. You have to break through that non-acceptance and come forward for the protection of other children.

It was only a few days before this that AW and JuJ gave accounts of [Name removed]'s movements on June 28th, 29th and 30th. Until then, he had not featured in any statements, other than his name being mentioned as a family member. Corinne claimed JuJ said, when she came to see Luke "Thank God they didn't find out about [Name removed]'s illness." Other members of the Mitchell family have confirmed this, although JuJ has always denied it. (How would Corinne have known about [Name removed]'s illness?) Two days after Jodi's murder, JuJ is afraid police may "jump to the wrong conclusion" because of [Name removed]'s illness - is that why he wasn't even mentioned to police by anyone for 9 days? And why it wasn't until another couple of days later that there was any mention of his illness?

If nothing else, it demonstrates that JuJ understood the reasons why some people might be reluctant for the police to have certain information - even she had hesitated in fear of her son being placed under suspicion because of his illness. https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg387843.html#msg387843

 

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
The label was red with the logo "LOGG" on it. When SK was asked to describe the "identical" T shirts belonging to JaJ, it was the description of this label that he gave. They were both supposed to be plain black t shirts - it could be that this was the only thing that stood out about them. But I'm pretty sure my ex wouldn't have been able to tell you what labels were on which of my t shirts!


Is this the same ‘ex’ who was standing behind a door when [Name removed] went to her house to ask her to remove her website?

[Nicholas]

Stephanie
Where are the documents to support any of the claims regarding this case? Why should we take the word of Sandra Lean and the slant she had chosen to put on this case?

If the police believed [Name removed]'s was murdered by a family member or any of the others mentioned on this thread and alluded to, they would not have pursued Luke Mitchell.

Sandra Lean
Bullsh*t! The police believed from the minute they left JuJ's house that Luke had something to do with Jodi's disappearance, and within half a hour of that, that he was her killer. Don't take my word for it - check out what the SCCRC had to say about it - Luke was treated as a suspect from the minute he was treated differently to the other searchers - so, like, instantly. And, of course, we know that no-one else was ever treated as a suspect - no other houses were ever searched, no one else was detained - they didn't get as far as "believing" anyone else might be responsible - they didn't even think about it.

Anyway, I'm not asking anyone to take my word for anything. You're well aware that in Scotland it's an offence to share case materials with "third parties" - don't much feel like getting arrested for a case I'm no longer involved with. So, like everybody else here, I'm just discussing the case and looking at the anomalies.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg388010.html#msg388010

I don’t trust the SCCRC/CCRC’s interpretations in a lot of these cases (See http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/10/the-fraud-of-the-criminal-cases-review-commission-ccrc-part-20%ef%b8%8f/)

But why would hoaxer Sandra Lean state “check out what the SCCRC had to say about it” knowing full well the SCCRC’s statement of reasons are not in the public domain?

Scott Forbes
SCCRC reports are nor for the public
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGzKwUlZsMo


What has stopped killer Luke Mitchell and the innocence fraud pushers from publishing the SCCRC’s statement of reasons?

The SCCRC’s statement of reasons were published in relation to psychopathic mass murderer Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17504387

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/families-of-killers-hijack-silent-walk-1000587

[Nicholas]

Stephanie
Do you not think Luke Mitchell displayed early signs of psychopathy/personality disorder?

Sandra Lean
Already ruled out by the real psychologists and psychiatrists over and over and over again.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg388013.html#msg388013

 

[Nicholas]

From memory, she mentions it very briefly -- like it's very incidental and not significant at all -- and rubishes it.

Nicholas, do you think it's possible that LM cycled to the easthouses end of the path after the texts from Jodi on Judith's phone between 1634 - 1639?

It’s plausible Mr Apples and would narrow down times too

There’s a reason hoaxer Sandra Lean only ‘briefly’ mentioned killer Luke Mitchell’s bike and what happened to it and it has every thing to do with Sandra choosing to minimise, cover up and hide the real facts of the case - similar to what the Hall family and Stephanie Bon did for all those years

Parky asked numerous questions in relation to the bike and Shane Mitchell’s exact movement that evening - all of which have been ignored
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/08/killer-luke-mitchell-was-shane-mitchell-disposing-of-evidence-part-117/

Sandra Lean
But the network of tracks and cycle paths in the area mean the killer could have travelled a fair distance without ever emerging onto "public" areas.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg388192.html#msg388192

[Nicholas]

Stephanie
Where are the documents to support any of the claims regarding this case? Why should we take the word of Sandra Lean and the slant she had chosen to put on this case?

If the police believed [Name removed]'s was murdered by a family member or any of the others mentioned on this thread and alluded to, they would not have pursued Luke Mitchell.

Sandra Lean
Bullsh*t! The police believed from the minute they left JuJ's house that Luke had something to do with Jodi's disappearance, and within half a hour of that, that he was her killer. Don't take my word for it - check out what the SCCRC had to say about it - Luke was treated as a suspect from the minute he was treated differently to the other searchers - so, like, instantly. And, of course, we know that no-one else was ever treated as a suspect - no other houses were ever searched, no one else was detained - they didn't get as far as "believing" anyone else might be responsible - they didn't even think about it.

Anyway, I'm not asking anyone to take my word for anything. You're well aware that in Scotland it's an offence to share case materials with "third parties" - don't much feel like getting arrested for a case I'm no longer involved with. So, like everybody else here, I'm just discussing the case and looking at the anomalies.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg388010.html#msg388010

I don’t trust the SCCRC/CCRC’s interpretations in a lot of these cases (See http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/10/the-fraud-of-the-criminal-cases-review-commission-ccrc-part-20%ef%b8%8f/)

But why would hoaxer Sandra Lean state “check out what the SCCRC had to say about it” knowing full well the SCCRC’s statement of reasons are not in the public domain?

Scott Forbes
SCCRC reports are nor for the public
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGzKwUlZsMo


What has stopped killer Luke Mitchell and the innocence fraud pushers from publishing the SCCRC’s statement of reasons?

The SCCRC’s statement of reasons were published in relation to psychopathic mass murderer Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17504387

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/families-of-killers-hijack-silent-walk-1000587

Sandra Lean
The SCCRC application pointed out numerous failings in the police investigation, anomalies in the evidence (including extremely poor practices concerning the DNA results) and solid evidence undermining the already weak eyewitness identifications, amongst other things. https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg429993.html#msg429993

Again - I don’t trust the SCCRC/CCRC’s interpretations or many of their ‘reviews’

Just because the SCCRC allegedly claimed there were ‘extremely poor practices concerning the DNA results’ doesn’t make it so

[Nicholas]

From memory, she mentions it very briefly -- like it's very incidental and not significant at all -- and rubishes it.

Nicholas, do you think it's possible that LM cycled to the easthouses end of the path after the texts from Jodi on Judith's phone between 1634 - 1639?

Sandra Lean
Without shadow of a doubt lilly15. What people don't realise is that the police were acting on wrong information from the off - for example, they believed Luke was coming up the path on his bike and that Jodi left her home with him at teatime.

Were they though?

Was killer Luke Mitchell on his bike when he left to meet [Name removed]?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Luke sleeping on one settee in the livingroom with his mother sleeping on a settee at the other side of the room was indicative of an "unnatural" relationship, but 19 year old Joseph sleeping in his mother's bedroom, wrapped in Jodi's duvet, at the foot of his mother's bed was accepted as perfectly natural.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg448524.html#msg448524

Poor guy

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Corinne claimed JuJ said, when she came to see Luke "Thank God they didn't find out about [Name removed]'s illness." Other members of the Mitchell family have confirmed this, although JuJ has always denied it. (How would Corinne have known about [Name removed]'s illness?) Two days after Jodi's murder, JuJ is afraid police may "jump to the wrong conclusion" because of [Name removed]'s illness - is that why he wasn't even mentioned to police by anyone for 9 days? And why it wasn't until another couple of days later that there was any mention of his illness?

If nothing else, it demonstrates that JuJ understood the reasons why some people might be reluctant for the police to have certain information - even she had hesitated in fear of her son being placed under suspicion because of his illness. https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg387843.html#msg387843

 

What about adoptee Corinne Mitchell and her enmeshed relationship with her violent, sexually aggressive and ‘out of control’ teenage son

“If you ask me, God is just a futile excuse, at the most, for a bunch of fools to go around annoying others who want nothing to do with them. Are these people insane? Open your eyes. People like you need satanic people like me to keep the balance. Once you shake hands with the devil you then have truly experienced life” ~ Luke Mitchell

[Nicholas]

Scott Forbes
SCCRC reports are nor for the public
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGzKwUlZsMo


What has stopped killer Luke Mitchell and the innocence fraud pushers from publishing the SCCRC’s statement of reasons?

The SCCRC’s statement of reasons were published in relation to psychopathic mass murderer Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17504387

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/families-of-killers-hijack-silent-walk-1000587

James Keegan
It was  Alan Turnbull who prosecuted lukes case. He also prosecuted al-megrahi. He had to have known luke was innocent

 

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Push bikes!

Push bikes featured with an almost ridiculous amount of significance in the early investigation, and it was literally years before I discovered why.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg386893.html#msg386893

Sandra Lean would not have a clue about information omitted from witness statements

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
The police were running around asking all and sundry what they knew about Luke and push bikes.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg386893.html#msg386893

Why has this been sat on for all these years?

How many bikes in total did killer Luke Mitchell own around this time - not including the one with the flat tyres in the garage

And did Shane or Corinne Mitchell own a bike ?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
But the network of tracks and cycle paths in the area mean the killer could have travelled a fair distance without ever emerging onto "public" areas.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg388192.html#msg388192

“JuJ told the police Luke would come to the house for Jodi either on foot or on his bike”

What ‘network of tracks and cycle paths in the area’ did sadistic killer Luke Mitchell use?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
The bike was extremely noisy and looked "hand built" so it drew attention to itself. The witness who noticed it propped against the wall had already seen it earlier, both running noisily, and being pushed after it cut out.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg386888.html#msg386888

Why wasn’t this witness called to provide their evidence during the trial?