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Offline misty

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #390 on: September 21, 2017, 01:26:05 PM »
The outstanding costs in this case are limited to Court costs & lawyers fees. Nobody is personally responsible for any damages.  In the event that the Madeleine's case is solved before an ECHR hearing it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the State of Portugal will intervene & settle all the McCanns' outstanding fees. If the McCanns are shown to be innocent, it would be a huge embarrassment to Portugal to be seen to collecting money from parents who have been much maligned & poorly treated by their justice system. As I said before, a cop-out by the SC when passing judgement.
All IMHO.

Offline faithlilly

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #391 on: September 21, 2017, 01:45:32 PM »
The outstanding costs in this case are limited to Court costs & lawyers fees. Nobody is personally responsible for any damages.  In the event that the Madeleine's case is solved before an ECHR hearing it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the State of Portugal will intervene & settle all the McCanns' outstanding fees. If the McCanns are shown to be innocent, it would be a huge embarrassment to Portugal to be seen to collecting money from parents who have been much maligned & poorly treated by their justice system. As I said before, a cop-out by the SC when passing judgement.
All IMHO.

The costs are for lawyers fees and court costs. It has nothing to do with Portugal as a state.

As Duarte knows the McCanns are innocent will she waive her fees ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #392 on: September 21, 2017, 01:51:13 PM »
The costs are for lawyers fees and court costs. It has nothing to do with Portugal as a state.

As Duarte knows the McCanns are innocent will she waive her fees ?

Oh I don't think so - she has to make a living, too.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #393 on: September 21, 2017, 01:54:41 PM »
The outstanding costs in this case are limited to Court costs & lawyers fees. Nobody is personally responsible for any damages.  In the event that the Madeleine's case is solved before an ECHR hearing it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the State of Portugal will intervene & settle all the McCanns' outstanding fees. If the McCanns are shown to be innocent, it would be a huge embarrassment to Portugal to be seen to collecting money from parents who have been much maligned & poorly treated by their justice system. As I said before, a cop-out by the SC when passing judgement.
All IMHO.

I don't know what the bill amounts to but I expect it's pretty big. The McCanns owe the money to the Courts, but the Courts will use it to provide refunds to the defendants. They will get back the money they had to pay up front in court costs plus 50% of that amount towards the cost of their legal representatives. There may be other costs which can be claimed. If at some point in the future the Portuguese State is criticised by the ECHR they may pay something to the McCanns. Suggesting that they may meet all the costs they incurred is wishful thinking imo.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #394 on: September 21, 2017, 01:55:01 PM »
Oh I don't think so - she has to make a living, too.

From two maligned and poorly treated victims? Has she no shame ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #395 on: September 21, 2017, 04:25:59 PM »
The Supreme Court decision will not be overturned and the  McCann's will have to pay up.



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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #396 on: September 21, 2017, 05:01:38 PM »
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Go off and try the pack attack elsewhere ... it cuts absolutely no ice with me ... but nice to see you lot declaring inanely your rather obvious upset that Madeleine's parents are safeguarding her interests by taking their case to the European Court of Human Rights.

This is one so called supporter who will be content if their application is successful.  ?{)(**

Dictionary corner?  How does appealing to the ECHR 'safeguard Madeleine's interests' I wonder. In my opinion it's not in her parent's interests, let alone hers.
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #397 on: September 21, 2017, 05:10:07 PM »
Dictionary corner?  How does appealing to the ECHR 'safeguard Madeleine's interests' I wonder. In my opinion it's not in her parent's interests, let alone hers.

I did wonder about that myself. Perhaps the answer will be forthcoming.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #398 on: September 21, 2017, 08:04:47 PM »
Dictionary corner?  How does appealing to the ECHR 'safeguard Madeleine's interests' I wonder. In my opinion it's not in her parent's interests, let alone hers.
What I notice is that it keeps Madeleine's name in the media, it keeps the public interested in the case, even if it is only criticising the parents actions.  Spend 50k on private detectives or 50k on taking a case to the ECHR and I'd guarantee more value for their money from the court case. (All a matter of opinion).
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #399 on: September 21, 2017, 08:09:56 PM »
What I notice is that it keeps Madeleine's name in the media, it keeps the public interested in the case, even if it is only criticising the parents actions.  Spend 50k on private detectives or 50k on taking a case to the ECHR and I'd guarantee more value for their money from the court case. (All a matter of opinion).

That would depend on what the aim was.  Neither action is likely to find her.  IMO
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #400 on: September 21, 2017, 08:29:36 PM »
That would depend on what the aim was.  Neither action is likely to find her.  IMO
I'm just talking to someone who recons they know about the person who has her.  something like that.
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #401 on: September 21, 2017, 08:30:51 PM »
I'm just talking to someone who recons they know about the person who has her.  something like that.

Make sure he doesn't try to sell you a bridge.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #402 on: September 21, 2017, 08:33:12 PM »
The outstanding costs in this case are limited to Court costs & lawyers fees. Nobody is personally responsible for any damages.  In the event that the Madeleine's case is solved before an ECHR hearing it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the State of Portugal will intervene & settle all the McCanns' outstanding fees. If the McCanns are shown to be innocent, it would be a huge embarrassment to Portugal to be seen to collecting money from parents who have been much maligned & poorly treated by their justice system. As I said before, a cop-out by the SC when passing judgement.
All IMHO.

If the McCanns are shown to be innocent? innocent of what? what kind of court case do you think this is?

I think some people are reinventing what the ECHR does. Maybe it has changed since I last looked .. but wait..
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Offline misty

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #403 on: September 21, 2017, 08:47:41 PM »
If the McCanns are shown to be innocent? innocent of what? what kind of court case do you think this is?

I think some people are reinventing what the ECHR does. Maybe it has changed since I last looked .. but wait..

I mean if the Portuguese arrest the people who were responsible for Madeleine's disappearance & it's not the McCanns, they will be "more innocent" when the ECHR consider their case agains the State of Portugal.

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #404 on: September 21, 2017, 08:50:24 PM »
I mean if the Portuguese arrest the people who were responsible for Madeleine's disappearance & it's not the McCanns, they will be "more innocent" when the ECHR consider their case agains the State of Portugal.

That would be true only if these people had been convicted. Arrest means nothing.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future