Sandra's exit - The real reasons

[Nicholas]

Everyone who disagrees with her online is a troll in her view.

I’d like to know how many different internet accounts the ‘making a murderer’ people have been posting under over the past 5 plus years

[John]

And it was all going so well too...then again maybe NOT?

[rulesapply]

And it was all going so well too...then again maybe NOT?

I suppose every battle throughout history is the same.  Whether or not it's going well must depend on whose side one is on.

[Nicholas]

On Sunday she announced her exit.

And here’s what she said

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/

[faithlilly]

I suppose every battle throughout history is the same.  Whether or not it's going well must depend on whose side one is on.

You may win the battle but the war is a completely different matter entirely.

[Parky41]

You may win the battle but the war is a completely different matter entirely.

Dad's army? Well not Luke's of course he deserted upon that guilty verdict. 

[Parky41]

And here’s what she said

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/

I think they have all bitten off more than they can chew. All this blagging by Lean? These nonsense claims of this new legal team, in its very early stages. But she knows erm erm that they might want stuff removed from social media? Really? So let us yet again go back to 2018 and that article in the Herald. Those claims then of there being a new legal team and erm appeal? - So this legal team then (cough) to this legal team today (cough). Are a different kind of erm legal team (cough) That one would want social media stuff removed the other not so much?

Or had social media just gotten a bit crazy and out of control? Leans control, Mitchells control? And would making claims of closing down areas of social media be a good way of gaining control? In this game of tug of war? The battle of sides. CM over Lean? For it went from this new legal team, to perhaps requesting that social media be cut back. To Luke requesting that Lean stay and guide this new legal team, to show them the way! (cough cough). To those demands of handing everything over? And for Lean to say this is happening  on the 30th. No legal team mentioned for this handover?

Hell of a lot of blagging going on. Severe case of Birds of a feather, of flying with the craws etc etc. And the minions, the dogsbodies who jumped on board. Buying up those lotto sales, merchandise and books are all scratching their heads waiting to see who Luke is actually choosing. The amigos however are going ahead with their own thing regardless, as and I quote "those banners are made!"  Not to be wasted?

[TruthSeeker2003]

Do you believe that this is all nonsense and there is no legal team?

More smoke and mirrors?

[TruthSeeker2003]

NM:
‘AE I really don't understand all the fall out. Is it Big egos??? Spitting dummies out?? I joined the other group and left within 5 minutes due to their accusations that Corrine would never see any of the money raised and a hint that SL was benefitting from people ordering book direct from her. Surely the whole point is to work together.



Does anyone know what’s happening with the money raised from Sandra Leans latest book now?

Is it being split 50/50 - half to Sandra half to Corinne & her son - or is all of it going into Sandra’s alleged new project?


Yes where is all this money? What's it being spent on?

[Nicholas]

Excerpt from Sandra Leans ‘Hidden in plain view’

Page 274

The wider public also appears to believe that forensic evidence used at trial is as reliable as it is presented in fictional TV series. For example, a family member of the victim in a particularly high profile murder insisted, post conviction, when a campaign was launched questioning the safety of the convicted person, that there were “strands of [the convicted person‟s] DNA all over the body.‟ When it was pointed out that partial DNA profiles in this case were evidentially worthless (in part because there were not enough “markers‟ present to constitute a reliable match, in part because there were markers common to several potential suspects, and in part because there were several “mixed‟ profiles), this person responded “they can tell even from those bits they did get. They know it was his [DNA.]‟92

92 In the course of a series of threats made against me, this information was imparted, by the family member making the threats, as “justification” for the victim‟s family‟s fury regarding claims of innocence for the person convicted.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/9834706.pdf

[Nicholas]

Yes where is all this money? What's it being spent on?

Now she’s allegedly made her last Facebook video update - her followers or the public may never now know ?


‘She told Facebook followers:

“Book sales, events, services, all the other sorts of stuff that will be available for people to access, will go through Innocents Betrayed Ltd.

“It will be the shop front and in turn will allow me to focus on this work full time.

“I’ve done this in my spare time and have had to take on other jobs to support me.”   
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6919979/crime-expert-sandra-lean-fund-effort-free-luke-mitchell/

Yet she appeared to give the impression during her last live Facebook video she was working on other cases? ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

And here’s what she said

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/

[TruthSeeker2003]

She did indeed. Some months ago now.

[Nicholas]

I think they have all bitten off more than they can chew. All this blagging by Lean?

Below (In bold) is an excerpt from Sandra Leans ‘thesis’ Hidden in plain view

‘O’Brien is convicted but exonerated murderer Michael O’Brien one of the three men found guilty of murdering Philip Saunders back in 1987

“Other factors leading to wrongful conviction are unreliable confessions (O‟Brien, 2008…”

(Above ⬆️ is from Chapter 1 titled ‘Factors leading to wrongful conviction’ - page 7)

I’m of the view - following the overturning of the so called Cardiff Newsagent 3’s murder convictions all 3 men should have been placed under MAPPA restrictions for public protection until such time they proved they didn’t murder Philip Saunders

I remain of the firm view they did murder Philip Saunders

2013
‘The judges considered that the possibility of pauses in the alleged conversation making it easier for Mr Lewis to record what was said was “fatal” to Mr O’Brien’s position, and they dismissed the application for judicial review’  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/michael-obrien-man-wrongly-convicted-6350640.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Operation FORTITUDE & RESOLUTE
Para 195:
‘..have found no evidence to implicate any officers in any wrongdoing, either in terms of criminal offences, or in terms of misconduct offences that would have been pursued had any officers still been serving

Link to full report ➡️ http://swplive.blob.core.windows.net/wordpress-uploads/S731-Report-Operations-Fortitude-and-Resolute-finalised.pdf

[rulesapply]

You may win the battle but the war is a completely different matter entirely.

I agree. I didn't ever mention a war though. Is there a war?

[Nicholas]

Below (In bold) is an excerpt from Sandra Leans ‘thesis’ Hidden in plain view

‘O’Brien is convicted but exonerated murderer Michael O’Brien one of the three men found guilty of murdering Philip Saunders back in 1987

“Other factors leading to wrongful conviction are unreliable confessions (O‟Brien, 2008…”

(Above ⬆️ is from Chapter 1 titled ‘Factors leading to wrongful conviction’ - page 7)

I’m of the view - following the overturning of the so called Cardiff Newsagent 3’s murder convictions all 3 men should have been placed under MAPPA restrictions for public protection until such time they proved they didn’t murder Philip Saunders

I remain of the firm view they did murder Philip Saunders

2013
‘The judges considered that the possibility of pauses in the alleged conversation making it easier for Mr Lewis to record what was said was “fatal” to Mr O’Brien’s position, and they dismissed the application for judicial review’  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/michael-obrien-man-wrongly-convicted-6350640.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Operation FORTITUDE & RESOLUTE
Para 195:
‘..have found no evidence to implicate any officers in any wrongdoing, either in terms of criminal offences, or in terms of misconduct offences that would have been pursued had any officers still been serving

Link to full report ➡️ http://swplive.blob.core.windows.net/wordpress-uploads/S731-Report-Operations-Fortitude-and-Resolute-finalised.pdf

Martin Shipton who has been one of main journalists to have written about Michael O’Brien over the years has regularly - and wrongly in my firm view - made claim in his news article on O’Brien that he was in prison for ‘a crime he didn’t commit’

Martin Shipton’s bias on this case is clear for all to see

In 2008 Shipton published a story on O’Brien having passed a lie detector test https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-wrongfully-jailed-passes-lie-2149993

‘Last night, an ITV Wales documentary revealed that a lie detector test undertaken by Mr O’Brien two weeks ago had cleared him of any involvement in the murder of Mr Saunders.

A lie dectector test did not and does not ‘clear’ O’Brien of Philip Saunders murder

Bruce Burgess carried out the test ⬇️

’Jeremy Kyle Show lie detector firm’s founder lied to cops and has a record’
‘Police were forced to match earlier pictures of Burgess with the photo of him at the wheel and convicted him of perverting the course of justice in 2008.

He was also paid £5,000 plus expenses by Russian state TV to fly out to the hostile country and test the prime suspect in the Alexander Litvinenko case – where he gave dodgy results.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9076295/jeremy-kyle-show-lie-detector-firm-criminal-record/