Wandering Off Topic

[barrier]

Only the truly obsessed. Some of us might even be dead by then.

Oh come on,theres still,  will the HO grant funding again this autumn coming, for the continual search for the last lead,lots to look forward to.

[jassi]

Oh come on,theres still,  will the HO grant funding again this autumn coming, for the continual search for the last lead,lots to look forward to.

I was thinking 10 years on.

[barrier]

I was thinking 10 years on.

I intend to live for ever,so far so good.

[sadie]

Firstly if Brietta and Misty posted the videos you said had been removed then they weren’t removed were they ? Secondly I find the videos very clear so are you sure it’s not just your eyesight ? Thirdly if you could source the folders with the black edging from a retail outlet don’t you think OG would be able to too ?

TBH Sadie I’m not sure why anyone would want to alter any of the Crimewatch footage. It was screened in several countries so what would be the point ? Are you truly suggesting it is in order to obscure the fact that OG is following your theory?

I dont think that you are bothering to read my responses. 

The original video, which was very clear, has gone.  Just a couple of rather hazy copies, with low colour, exist.  We know of these thanks to misty and Brie..

So, Faith, why has one of the two Special Madeleine Crime Watch videos vanished, but the other one still stands?


Any sensible suggestions about why the one, but not the other?

[sadie]

I walked to school and so did my children. Kate McCann, being so over-protective (during daylight hours) wouldn't have allowed her children to do so.

Well you are an Army wife we understand?   Posted to Germany?   Paderborn or nearby ? Were the chidrens' schools on the garrison itself, or adjoining?

https://www.care.com/c/stories/3239/when-can-my-child-walk-to-school-alone/en-gb/

Age 10 seems to be considered the normal age that most children were developmentally safe to walk to school

I dont like to criticize but I would suggest that walking on ones own to school as at 4 or 5 year old is far too young.


TBH, Gunit I find it sickening, how The Mccanns can be so stridently criticised for their regularly checked sleeping children being left for up to half an hour and you boasting that your children walked on their own to school.  Presumably they were only 4 or 5 when they started going to school.  Madeleine was just a few days short of her 4th birthday.

[Robittybob1]

Hard question with no set answer.

[G-Unit]

Well you are an Army wife we understand?   Posted to Germany?   Paderborn or nearby ? Were the chidrens' schools on the garrison itself, or adjoining?

https://www.care.com/c/stories/3239/when-can-my-child-walk-to-school-alone/en-gb/

Age 10 seems to be considered the normal age that most children were developmentally safe to walk to school

I dont like to criticize but I would suggest that walking on ones own to school as at 4 or 5 year old is far too young.


TBH, Gunit I find it sickening, how The Mccanns can be so stridently criticised for their regularly checked sleeping children being left for up to half an hour and you boasting that your children walked on their own to school.  Presumably they were only 4 or 5 when they started going to school.  Madeleine was just a few days short of her 4th birthday.

I was speaking about the past, Sadie, when British children were allowed to be independent like Swedish children still are. Every child in the village where I grew up walked to school alone apart from the first day. My daughter walked to school with older children and they used public roads.

Even in those days, however, I wasn't left home alone at night and neither were my children. Attitudes to that are the same as they always were; children need a baby-sitter.

[Venturi Swirl]

I was speaking about the past, Sadie, when British children were allowed to be independent like Swedish children still are. Every child in the village where I grew up walked to school alone apart from the first day. My daughter walked to school with older children and they used public roads.

Even in those days, however, I wasn't left home alone at night and neither were my children. Attitudes to that are the same as they always were; children need a baby-sitter.

Do you consider a child is safer walking to and from school aged 4 on their own, than being left unattended asleep in a house for 30 minutes with parents 100 metres away?

[sadie]

Do you consider a child is safer walking to and from school aged 4 on their own, than being left unattended asleep in a house for 30 minutes with parents 100 metres away?

Sorry VS, but a correction:

The Mccanns were just over 50 metres away crow flies of 5A = well within earshot .

And walking distance was under 80 metres.

These distances can be reliably checked on Google Earth

[sadie]

Do you consider a child is safer walking to and from school aged 4 on their own, than being left unattended asleep in a house for 30 minutes with parents 100 metres away?

Exactly!!

I was speaking about the past, Sadie, when British children were allowed to be independent like Swedish children still are. Every child in the village where I grew up walked to school alone apart from the first day. My daughter walked to school with older children and they used public roads.

Even in those days, however, I wasn't left home alone at night and neither were my children. Attitudes to that are the same as they always were; children need a baby-sitter.

At the age of 4? 

Why were they unescorted ?  Originally you said that they went on their own IIRC ... and in a foreign country too !!

Even being accompanied by a neighbours/friends child isn't enough IMO.  Too many dangers and distractions around.

Were you off making money ?  Working?  Why did you risk it ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I was speaking about the past, Sadie, when British children were allowed to be independent like Swedish children still are. Every child in the village where I grew up walked to school alone apart from the first day. My daughter walked to school with older children and they used public roads.

Even in those days, however, I wasn't left home alone at night and neither were my children. Attitudes to that are the same as they always were; children need a baby-sitter.

Indeed G. and not only are the sweeds doing that they also leave thir children out in their prams in very cold weather to get them used to their climate. over here that would be seen as child abuse.

My mum told me that she used to make a lot of pocket money by watching other peoples babies in prams during the day or baby sitting at night! and she was only 14! no mobile phones...

All the children in our village walk 1 mile to school without parental involvement in ALL weathers... As did I and my siblings we came to no harm. I'm not sure about ina large town or city now a days though.

Do you consider a child is safer walking to and from school aged 4 on their own, than being left unattended asleep in a house for 30 minutes with parents 100 metres away?

Who said the children were all alone?  all children go to school at the same time do they not, they have neighbouring children and class mates and friends to walk with.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Sorry VS, but a correction:

The Mccanns were just over 50 metres away crow flies of 5A = well within earshot .

And walking distance was under 80 metres.

These distances can be reliably checked on Google Earth

cite for well within earshot.


if this is the case then one has to challenge the claim by Kate that she left the non' kidnapped 'children to run  and tell the other tapas group that Maddie was taken? disappeared? whatever...

AND then you have to wonder why did they have to go to the door to listen if well within earshot.


Myth making along with crime watch files being aired and read and acted upon by SY.. 

[Robittybob1]

Indeed G. and not only are the sweeds doing that they also leave thir children out in their prams in very cold weather to get them used to their climate. over here that would be seen as child abuse.

My mum told me that she used to make a lot of pocket money by watching other peoples babies in prams during the day or baby sitting at night! and she was only 14! no mobile phones...

All the children in our village walk 1 mile to school without parental involvement in ALL weathers... As did I and my siblings we came to no harm. I'm not sure about ina large town or city now a days though.


Who said the children were all alone?  all children go to school at the same time do they not, they have neighbouring children and class mates and friends to walk with.

There will be moments when they would be alone at times.  -  who knows.

[G-Unit]

Exactly!!

At the age of 4? 

Why were they unescorted ?  Originally you said that they went on their own IIRC ... and in a foreign country too !!

Even being accompanied by a neighbours/friends child isn't enough IMO.  Too many dangers and distractions around.

Were you off making money ?  Working?  Why did you risk it ?

I never mentioned age, I never said my children walked to school alone, and I never said it was in a foreign country. Those are all your assumptions/inventions.

You nay recall that in the 1970's most people didn't have the option of paying others to raise their children while they went off to ;make money'. We brought our own children up and lived on one wage.

At that time children walking to school without adult supervision wasn't seen as a risk. Neither was playing out with their friends or running errands. Times and attitudes have changed, except, as I said, in respect of baby-sitting. Even back then we knew they were necessary.

[G-Unit]

cite for well within earshot.


if this is the case then one has to challenge the claim by Kate that she left the non' kidnapped 'children to run  and tell the other tapas group that Maddie was taken? disappeared? whatever...

AND then you have to wonder why did they have to go to the door to listen if well within earshot.


Myth making along with crime watch files being aired and read and acted upon by SY.. 

Some people seem to believe that it's perfectly fine to leave children sleeping and go out to dine, so long as they check on those children every 30 minutes. That's a fallacy. It has always been an accepted rule that small children aren't left home alone under any circumstances.