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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #120 on: December 05, 2018, 02:26:05 PM »
Apart from my son's completely useless advice, I have no idea.

I dint think your sons advice was useless.... Most experts like to have all the facts before giving opinions....

Offline Sunny

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #121 on: December 05, 2018, 02:48:09 PM »
There wasn’t a fire in Block 5. Has there ever been a fire in block 5?  If not statistics, would indicate that having your child disappear into thin air is more likely to happen in Block 5 than a fire breaking out so why are we discussing this actually?

Do you have a cite for that VS?  I don't believe your "statistics".
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #122 on: December 05, 2018, 03:12:42 PM »
I dint think your sons advice was useless.... Most experts like to have all the facts before giving opinions....

Thanks.

Actually, I was quite surprised by that he refused, but obviously he was ahead of me.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #123 on: December 05, 2018, 03:26:55 PM »
Thanks.

Actually, I was quite surprised by that he refused, but obviously he was ahead of me.
He is.... Can you imagine if he offered advice... Which someone took...and it turned out badly..

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #124 on: December 05, 2018, 03:47:32 PM »
Do you have a cite for that VS?  I don't believe your "statistics".
Do you want me to post a cite to a child disappearing from Apartment 5a?
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Offline Sunny

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #125 on: December 05, 2018, 03:52:59 PM »
Do you want me to post a cite to a child disappearing from Apartment 5a?

Of course not just this.  And what statistics would they be.

statistics, would indicate that having your child disappear into thin air is more likely to happen in Block 5 than a fire breaking out
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #126 on: December 05, 2018, 03:57:06 PM »
Of course not just this.  And what statistics would they be.

statistics, would indicate that having your child disappear into thin air is more likely to happen in Block 5 than a fire breaking out
These statistics:

Fires in Apt 5a - 0
Children disappearing from Apt 5a - 1

You do realise my post was ever so slightly tongue-in-cheek don't you?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #127 on: December 05, 2018, 04:03:11 PM »
He is.... Can you imagine if he offered advice... Which someone took...and it turned out badly..

I can now.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #128 on: December 05, 2018, 05:57:24 PM »
There wasn’t a fire in Block 5. Has there ever been a fire in block 5?  If not statistics, would indicate that having your child disappear into thin air is more likely to happen in Block 5 than a fire breaking out so why are we discussing this actually?
Looking at the whole country  Number of house fires compared to the number of kidnappings, IMO house fire would exceed kidnappings but I have no actual figures
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #129 on: December 05, 2018, 05:59:52 PM »
Do you have a cite for that VS?  I don't believe your "statistics".
You can't look at a single incident and make that your source of statistics IMO.
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Offline jassi

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #130 on: December 05, 2018, 06:27:51 PM »
You can't look at a single incident and make that your source of statistics IMO.

Yeah, like polling 2 people in an opinion poll and claiming it is significant   @)(++(*
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #131 on: December 05, 2018, 06:32:59 PM »
Looking at the whole country  Number of house fires compared to the number of kidnappings, IMO house fire would exceed kidnappings but I have no actual figures


https://fullfact.org/health/how-many-people-die-fires/

18% of 167,150 = 30087.

"A 2004 Home Office research study presented 798 police reports regarding child abduction in England and Wales. Of those reports, that 56% (447) involved a stranger, about 375 were attempted abductions while 72 were successful.[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_in_the_United_Kingdom
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #132 on: December 05, 2018, 07:02:38 PM »


https://fullfact.org/health/how-many-people-die-fires/

18% of 167,150 = 30087.

"A 2004 Home Office research study presented 798 police reports regarding child abduction in England and Wales. Of those reports, that 56% (447) involved a stranger, about 375 were attempted abductions while 72 were successful.[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_in_the_United_Kingdom

As I understand the leading cause of fatalities in house fires are those involving smoking... As the McCann's didn't... That has to be factored in
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #133 on: December 05, 2018, 07:18:59 PM »
Based on the evidence... No fires in 5a.... One child disappeared without trace

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What to do in the event of a fire in Block 5? Or in apartment 5A?
« Reply #134 on: December 05, 2018, 09:48:04 PM »
Based on the evidence... No fires in 5a.... One child disappeared without trace
But the day before anything happened as a parent you need to look at the relative chances of the various possible events and fire must have the greatest risk of happening in the future.

So IMO the McCanns were more responsible than the others for they made provision for their kids to escape in case of fire.
It is illegal to deadlock the rooms with persons still inside.  The PJ were told that happened but no action was taken against the other three families. 
« Last Edit: December 05, 2018, 09:53:10 PM by Robittybob1 »
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