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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #990 on: January 05, 2020, 10:18:35 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 05, 2020, 09:03:45 PM
You really ought to stop misinterpreting my sentences...number one priority v one of his first acts...mmmm.
Why is recognising Palestine as a state one of the very first things that needs addressing by a newly elected British PM?   Please explain.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #991 on: January 05, 2020, 10:23:17 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 05, 2020, 10:13:51 PM
Why not?  It reinforces my point, same reason you post the guff you post.

It doesn’t reinforce your point. We were talking about [ censored word]emitism not anti-Zionism
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #992 on: January 05, 2020, 10:26:46 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 05, 2020, 10:23:17 PM
It doesn’t reinforce your point. We were talking about [ censored word]emitism not anti-Zionism
The article I quoted makes the case that often they are the same thing. Jeremy is Anti-Zionist, is he not?  I don’t think you could have read past the first word.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #993 on: January 05, 2020, 10:35:29 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 05, 2020, 10:18:35 PM
Why is recognising Palestine as a state one of the very first things that needs addressing by a newly elected British PM?   Please explain.

I quoted Corbyn. You would have to ask him why this was a priority for him.

It’s curious...you seem to have a virulent hatred for Corbyn for what you see as his [ censored word]emitism yet accept with aplomb that Johnson has allowed at least three MPs to remain in his party even though they have posted [ censored word]emitic tropes...not only this but has used the same tropes himself in one of his book. Why is that ?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/the-conservative-party-anti-semitism-crisis-nobody-talks-about/06/12/
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #994 on: January 05, 2020, 10:41:28 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 05, 2020, 10:35:29 PM
I quoted Corbyn. You would have to ask him why this was a priority for him.

It’s curious...you seem to have a virulent hatred for Corbyn for what you see as his [ censored word]emitism yet accept with aplomb that Johnson has allowed at least three MPs to remain in his party even though they have posted [ censored word]emitic tropes...not only this but has used the same tropes himself in one of his book. Why is that ?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/the-conservative-party-anti-semitism-crisis-nobody-talks-about/06/12/
Is “tropes” the mot du jour?  Perhaps you can point to my uncritical love of Boris Johnson with a cite or two? In case you hadn’t noticed this thread is not about him however, so best you start a new one to discuss his MPs “tropes” in greater detail. 
Meanwhile a Deliveroo driver is attacked and killed in a road rage incident in Corbyn’s constituency on Friday night and Corbyn uses it to score a political point about zero hours contracts.  Just what is wrong with this man?

Incidentally, II don’t  have virulent hatred for the man, I used to think he was a joke, now I just feel sorry for him.  I wish him a  long and happy retirement.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #995 on: January 05, 2020, 11:09:30 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 05, 2020, 10:41:28 PM
Is “tropes” the mot du jour?  Perhaps you can point to my uncritical love of Boris Johnson with a cite or two? In case you hadn’t noticed this thread is not about him however, so best you start a new one to discuss his MPs “tropes” in greater detail. 
Meanwhile a Deliveroo driver is attacked and killed in a road rage incident in Corbyn’s constituency on Friday night and Corbyn uses it to score a political point about zero hours contracts.  Just what is wrong with this man?

Incidentally, II don’t  have virulent hatred for the man, I used to think he was a joke, now I just feel sorry for him.  I wish him a  long and happy retirement.

Where did I claim you ‘loved Johnson uncritically ‘ because I don’t think I did. However if not expelling Livingston from the Labour Party for voicing [ censored word]emitic comments makes Corbyn a ‘danger to Jewish people’ surely Johnson not expelling three MPs for also using [ censored word]emitic language must also make him a danger....yet not a word of censure from you.
The only difference really is Corbyn’s condemnation of Israeli actions against the Palestinians and that’s the real rub for you, isn’t it ? Your abhorrence of [ censored word]emitism only manifests itself when it can be used to deflect criticism of Israeli government policy and actions. That ordinary Jewish people in the UK suffer real prejudice as a result of the current government, it would appear, is unimportant . Johnson’s established liking for [ censored word]emitic tropes for you is secondary to his support for Israel I imagine and belies your real motivation.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Angelo222

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #996 on: January 06, 2020, 10:44:00 AM »
Could we stay on topic please.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #997 on: January 06, 2020, 05:42:48 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 05, 2020, 11:09:30 PM
Where did I claim you ‘loved Johnson uncritically ‘ because I don’t think I did. However if not expelling Livingston from the Labour Party for voicing [ censored word]emitic comments makes Corbyn a ‘danger to Jewish people’ surely Johnson not expelling three MPs for also using [ censored word]emitic language must also make him a danger....yet not a word of censure from you.
The only difference really is Corbyn’s condemnation of Israeli actions against the Palestinians and that’s the real rub for you, isn’t it ? Your abhorrence of [ censored word]emitism only manifests itself when it can be used to deflect criticism of Israeli government policy and actions. That ordinary Jewish people in the UK suffer real prejudice as a result of the current government, it would appear, is unimportant . Johnson’s established liking for [ censored word]emitic tropes for you is secondary to his support for Israel I imagine and belies your real motivation.
I have absolutely no problem with people or political parties criticising Israel’s government, just don’t bring the Nazis into it, and if you don’t want to look completely partisan and [ censored word]emitic  then don’t only suck up to the side that is resolutely anti-Israel and anti-Jew for the entirety of your political career.  I have nothing further to add, and consider any further comment from you to be bordering on stalking.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #998 on: January 06, 2020, 06:59:33 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 06, 2020, 05:42:48 PM
I have absolutely no problem with people or political parties criticising Israel’s government, just don’t bring the Nazis into it, and if you don’t want to look completely partisan and [ censored word]emitic  then don’t only suck up to the side that is resolutely anti-Israel and anti-Jew for the entirety of your political career.  I have nothing further to add, and consider any further comment from you to be bordering on stalking.

Strange behaviour for someone who is ant-Jew.

Corbyn organised the Apr. 1977 defence of Jewish populated Wood Green from a Neo-Nazi march
EDM3933 7 Nov. 1990: Corbyn signs motion condemning the rise of [ censored word]emitism
EDM634, 11 Apr. 2000: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion condemning David Irving for being a Holocaust Denier
EDM1124, 6 Nov. 2000: Jeremy Corbyn praised the ‘British Schindler’, Bill Barazetti, for his WW2 kindertransport
EDM742, 28 Jan. 2002: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion praising football clubs for commemorating Holocaust Day
EDM1233 30 Apr. 2002: Corbyn was a primary sponsor on a motion condemning [ censored word]emitism
11 May 2002: Jeremy led a clean up of Finsbury Park Synagogue after an anti-Semitic attack
EDM1691, 23 July 2002: Corbyn condemned attacks on a synagogue in Swansea
EDM123 26 Nov. 2003: Corbyn officially condemns attacks on 2 Istanbul synagogues
EDM298, 16 Dec. 2003: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion commemorating International Holocaust Day
2004: Jeremy condemned news that anti-Semitic hate crimes had risen for yet another year
EDM461, 21 Jan. 2004: Jeremy Corbyn condemned the French government’s moves to ban the Jewish Kippa in French Schools
EDM717, 26 Feb. 2004: Jeremy signed a motion praising Simon Wiesenthal for bringing Nazi perpetrators of the Holocaust to justice
EDM1613, 8 Sept. 2004: Corbyn co-sponsored a bill expressing fears for the future of the United Synagogue Pension Scheme
EDM1699, 11 Oct. 2004: Jeremy Corbyn condemned arbitrary attacks on civilians in Israel and Palestine
EDM482, 12 Jan. 2005: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion commemorating International Holocaust Day
EDM343, 16 June 2005: Jeremy condemned the desecration of a Jewish cemetery in east London
EDM1343, 11 Jan. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion commemorating International Holocaust Day
EDM1774, 8 Mar. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn led condemnations of an Iranian Magazine soliciting cartoons about the Holocaust
EDM1267, 16 Apr. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn condemned Bryan Ferry for anti-Semitic remarks
EDM2414, 26 June 2006: Jeremy Corbyn praised British war veterans for their efforts to combat the Holocaust
EDM2705, 10 Oct. 2006: Jeremy signed a motion marking the 70th anniversary of Cable Street
EDM271, 14 Nov. 2007: Jeremy co-sponsored a motion lamenting the poverty and social exclusion East London Jews suffered
EDM153, 12 May 2008: Corbyn praised the efforts of the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto during the uprising of 1944
EDM2350, 27 Oct 2008: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion marking the 70th anniversary of the horrors of the holocaust
EDM173, 8 Dec. 2008: Jeremy condemned the Press Complaints Commission for refusing to sanction The Times for [ censored word]emitism
EDM461, 14 Jan. 2009: Jeremy Corbyn condemned a wave of recent anti-Semitic incidents targeted
EDM605, 27 Jan. 2009: Corbyn signed John Mann’s motion condemning [ censored word]emitism on university campuses
EDM917 26 Feb. 2009: Jeremy signs a motion condemning [ censored word]emitism on the internet
EDM1175 24 Mar. 2009: Corbyn signs a motion praising the heroism of British Jews during Holocaust
EDM337, 2 Dec. 2009: Jeremy Condemned Iran’s treatment of Jewish minorities in Iran
EDM850 9 Feb. 2010: Jeremy joins in calls for Facebook to do more to fight [ censored word]emitism
EDM891: 22 Feb 2010: Corbyn co-sponsors a motion calling for Yemen’s Jews to be given refugee status to the UK
EDM908 27 Oct. 2010: Corbyn praises work of late Israeli PM in his pursuit of a 2 state solution
EDM1360, 27 Jan. 2011: Corbyn co-sponsored a motion praising the ‘never again for anyone initiative’
EDM1527, 3 Mar. 2011: Corbyn backed Ian Paisley’s motion condemning the anti-Semitic remarks of Dior’s lead fashion designer
EDM2870, 14 Mar. 2012: Jeremy Corbyn condemned the sale of Nazi memorabilia at an auction in Bristol
EDM2866, 14 Mar 2012: Jeremy Corbyn co-sponsored a bill condemning the rise of [ censored word]emitism in Lithuania
EDM2899, 20 Mar. 2012, Jeremy Corbyn condemned a terrorist attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse
EDM168, 12 June 2012, Jeremy co-sponsored a motion condemning anti-Semitic attacks during EURO 2012 in Poland
EDM 195 13 June 2012: Jeremy attacks BBC for cutting Jewish programmes from Its schedule
EDM 1133 1 Mar 2013: Corbyn joins a chorus of calls condemning [ censored word]emitism In sport
1 Oct. 2013: Corbyn was one of the few MPs who defended Ralph Miliband from Daily Mail [ censored word]emitism
EDM 932 9 Jan 2014: Jeremy praises Holocaust Memorial’s work on [ censored word]emitism education
EDM 165 22 June 2015: Jeremy condemns a Neo-Nazi rally planned for a Jewish area of London
Sat 4 July 2015: Jeremy co-planned a counter-fascist demo in defence of Jewish residents at Golders Green. The march was re-routed
18 Nov. 2015, Corbyn used one of his first PMQs to challenge Cameron to do more on [ censored word]emiUsm
9 Oct 2016: Corbyn, close to tears, leads commemoration of the Battle of Cable Street
3 Dec. 2016: Corbyn visits Terezin Concentration Camp to commemorate Holocaust victims
In 2017-19 Jeremy introduced 20 new measures to combat [ censored word]emitism in the Labour Party



Can I offer you some advice,  if you do feel that your are being stalked you should look into taking out a restraining order....no, no no need to thank me  ?{)(**
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #999 on: January 06, 2020, 08:03:05 PM »
Jeremy Corbyn is a has been.  No one cares anymore.  Time to move on.  Whoever succeeds him would do well not to have a track record of sucking up to terrorists and other organisations that hate Jews and hate Britain. 
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #1000 on: January 06, 2020, 08:14:12 PM »
It seems that Faithlilly’s tip for the top Ian Lavery has a conviction for a breach of the peace, has complained of police brutality and says that as a result he has “absolutely no respect for the police”, not a great position to hold for a prospective prime minister.  He also has a dodgy track record where his finances are concerned.  Let’s hope Labour Party members have more sense than to elect him.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #1001 on: January 06, 2020, 08:52:15 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 06, 2020, 08:14:12 PM
It seems that Faithlilly’s tip for the top Ian Lavery has a conviction for a breach of the peace, has complained of police brutality and says that as a result he has “absolutely no respect for the police”, not a great position to hold for a prospective prime minister.  He also has a dodgy track record where his finances are concerned.  Let’s hope Labour Party members have more sense than to elect him.

Lavery was targeted for his politics....and when he says he’s got no respect for the police who can really blame him after Hillsborough and Orgreave ? This is the same police who during the miners strike waved pay packets in striking miners faces and boasted about their overtime when miners were losing their homes and living hand to mouth.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/15/thirty-five-years-on-orgreave-campaigners-still-seek-answers
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #1002 on: January 06, 2020, 09:15:21 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 06, 2020, 08:52:15 PM
Lavery was targeted for his politics....and when he says he’s got no respect for the police who can really blame him after Hillsborough and Orgreave ? This is the same police who during the miners strike waved pay packets in striking miners faces and boasted about their overtime when miners were losing their homes and living hand to mouth.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/15/thirty-five-years-on-orgreave-campaigners-still-seek-answers
You think a candidate for PM with “no respect for the police” is a tenable position to hold.  Get real.  This guy is unelectable, and this is just one of the reasons.  Mind you, he hasn’t put himself forward yet.  Let’s hope he realises he would be another millstone round Labour’s neck.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #1003 on: January 06, 2020, 09:25:37 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 06, 2020, 09:15:21 PM
You think a candidate for PM with “no respect for the police” is a tenable position to hold.  Get real.  This guy is unelectable, and this is just one of the reasons.  Mind you, he hasn’t put himself forward yet.  Let’s hope he realises he would be another millstone round Labour’s neck.

I think it’s a platform from which he can make the police more accountable.

 I also think Angela Rayner will be a fantastic deputed leader...now run along and see what dirt you can dig up on her
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #1004 on: January 06, 2020, 09:29:58 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 06, 2020, 09:25:37 PM
I think it’s a platform from which he can make the police more accountable.

 I also think Angela Rayner will be a fantastic deputed leader...now run along and see what dirt you can dig up on her
Oh god she’s awful.  I watched her in a tv debate and she was such a gobshite I was throwing cushions at the screen. 
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