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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => The removal of blonde blue-eyed children from Roma camps. => Topic started by: John on May 22, 2013, 12:23:58 AM
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The Daily Star today went with the headline, 'Maddie' found in Ireland after yesterday going with 'Maddie' found in Greece while printing pictures of the missing 10-year-old alongside the articles.
Has the British Press yet again shown themselves to be totally out of control and unfit to practise self regulation?
Was Leveson a useless exercise and a complete waste of money after all?
reached an all time low by printing such a headline?
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1421582/thumbs/o-MADDIE-570.jpg?7)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1421583/thumbs/o-MADDIE-GREECE-570.jpg?2)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/23/madeleine-mcann-found_n_4147078.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
Wouldnt it have been nice to have read this headline ears ago
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Thanks to Kazcutt for posting the links to the Daily Star.
What do members think about these headlines which have only one objective and that is to sell papers?
Just put yourself in the shoes of Kate and Gerry for a moment, would you like to read these calculated lies if it was your kid?
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Total disgrace ...what idiots buy the star
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Thanks to Kazcutt for posting the links to the Daily Star.
What do members think about these headlines which have only one objective and that is to sell papers?
Just put yourself in the shoes of Kate and Gerry for a moment, would you like to read these calculated lies if it was your kid?
Sincerely, John, I think there is much worse than those obviously ridiculous headlines. Cheating readers they risk to loose them and will have to readjust.
Do you really think the McCanns are hoping when the person close to them claims their hope is refreshed ?
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Sincerely, John, I think there is much worse than those obviously ridiculous headlines. Cheating readers they risk to loose them and will have to readjust.
Do you really think the McCanns are hoping when the person close to them claims their hope is refreshed ?
Quite Anne, It was Clarence Mitchell who spoke of their hope, need we say any more?
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Sincerely, John, I think there is much worse than those obviously ridiculous headlines. Cheating readers they risk to loose them and will have to readjust.
Do you really think the McCanns are hoping when the person close to them claims their hope is refreshed ?
I couldn't really understand your post but it seem its just another dig at the McCanns
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The moral is, don't buy The Star. We need a free press. Having our unfit government control the information we get is a truly terrifying prospect.
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Thanks to Kazcutt for posting the links to the Daily Star.
What do members think about these headlines which have only one objective and that is to sell papers?
Just put yourself in the shoes of Kate and Gerry for a moment, would you like to read these calculated lies if it was your kid?
they are seasoned to them over the years so its more like water off a ducks back to them...their spokesmans comments are just lip service to the idea Madeleine may well be alive and findable, awful that they hijack every case reported though.......even when it has ZERO connection....I remember the papers reporting on Claudia Lawrence vigil, Kate Mccanns photo was all over the front pages like it had sod all to do with her....her family given a back seat!!
Wonder what the families of these children feel being connected with Madeleine Mccanns "abduction" but they dont matter, they are children stealing gypsies........cough
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The moral is, don't buy The Star. We need a free press. Having our unfit government control the information we get is a truly terrifying prospect.
Yes cariad..stop buying it
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The moral is, don't buy The Star. We need a free press. Having our unfit government control the information we get is a truly terrifying prospect.
Want to live in a country with state controlled media? Then why not move to North Korea or China, I'm told they have impressive human rights records...
I'm with you there Cariad, slippery slope to dictatorship, the next step is banning freedom of expression all together.
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The moral is, don't buy The Star. We need a free press. Having our unfit government control the information we get is a truly terrifying prospect.
Gerry Mccann likes the idea....he and others are Hacked Off!
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people who shouldnt be, the real victims stories have been hijacked.....
But looks like someone has hacked them off even more.......
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Another shameful aspect of this type of sensationalist reporting is the way the plight of other children is hijacked so that they become almost inconsequential in their own right and serve only as a footnote in the Madeleine McCann story
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Another shameful aspect of this type of sensationalist reporting is the way the plight of other children is hijacked so that they become almost inconsequential in their own right and serve only as a footnote in the Madeleine McCann story
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Well said, been happenng for years......cold callous and exploitative
kids beng chased in moroco cos they were blonde 4 yr olds....kids in new zealand who couldnt possibly be Madeleine being forced to give their dna, to prove they werent Madeleine, murdered chldrens faces being used on Maddie posters without permission and after complaint from the parents for pr campaigns, never ending.....
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Gerry Mccann likes the idea....he and others are Hacked Off!
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people who shouldnt be, the real victims stories have been hijacked.....
But looks like someone has hacked them off even more.......
what a stupid post (the real victims) ?? MADELEINE is a victim and so are her parents..whoever took madeleine made them victims ..get off your high horse ad stop trying to show off by making jokes ..you are a disgrace !!!
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Another shameful aspect of this type of sensationalist reporting is the way the plight of other children is hijacked so that they become almost inconsequential in their own right and serve only as a footnote in the Madeleine McCann story
that's because it sells newspapers so the public must take a lot of the blame
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The Daily Star today went with the headline, 'Maddie' found in Ireland after yesterday going with 'Maddie' found in Greece while printing pictures of the missing 10-year-old alongside the articles.
Has the British Press yet again shown themselves to be totally out of control and unfit to practise self regulation?
Was Leveson a useless exercise and a complete waste of money after all?
reached an all time low by printing such a headline?
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1421582/thumbs/o-MADDIE-570.jpg?7)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1421583/thumbs/o-MADDIE-GREECE-570.jpg?2)
I would guess that no, the Daily Star hasn't plunged to new depths, because they've probably attained such depths before. But I don't read it so I can't really comment.
But the Leveson question is interesting and that's a saga that's still ongoing. Leveson could only recommend, he couldn't implement, so whether or not it was a waste of money will very much depend on what's finally put in place. I think the all party "carrot and stick" proposal is a good one myself, but the press barons may well yet succeed in derailing it.
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Yes cariad..stop buying it
The Morning Star maybe, but never The Star!
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Thank you all for the comments. So do we just turn a blind eye to this garbage or should they face some sort of sanction for printing these deliberately misleading articles... Maddie found in Ireland - Shock as blue-eyed girl discovered with second Roma family and Maddie found in Greece - New hope as stolen girl turns up at gypsy camp.
The DS set out to deliberately mislead the public with those headlines. Is it not bad enough that Madeleine might be lying in some shallow grave or at the bottom of a pit without these mindless moronic journalists making things worse for her parents?
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The moral is, don't buy The Star. We need a free press. Having our unfit government control the information we get is a truly terrifying prospect.
Absolutely. People aren't stupid.
While you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.
Matthew XIII, 29-30
(very biblical, though a total atheist !)
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Thank you all for the comments. So do we just turn a blind eye to this garbage or should they face some sort of sanction for printing these deliberately misleading articles... Maddie found in Ireland - Shock as blue-eyed girl discovered with second Roma family and Maddie found in Greece - New hope as stolen girl turns up at gypsy camp.
I believe the correct phrase would be to ignore, rather than turn a blind eye.
You only have to convince all the other readers now.
The Star knows their market and target it.
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Well there's a novelty - quoting the bible at The Star.
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*edited* ... posted before checking other threads
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Thank you all for the comments. So do we just turn a blind eye to this garbage or should they face some sort of sanction for printing these deliberately misleading articles... Maddie found in Ireland - Shock as blue-eyed girl discovered with second Roma family and Maddie found in Greece - New hope as stolen girl turns up at gypsy camp.
John, what's revolting is snatching little girls from families, perhaps not biological, perhaps precarious, but who love them.
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The DS set out to deliberately mislead the public with those headlines. Is it not bad enough that Madeleine might be lying in some shallow grave or at the bottom of a pit without these mindless moronic journalists making things worse for her parents?
They will be quite happy with these stories - they perpetuate the idea that Madeleine might be alive somewhere. I would not be surprised if Clarence Mitchell is behind them.
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I wonder how many complaints have been received by the Press Complaints Commission?
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what a stupid post (the real victims) ?? MADELEINE is a victim and so are her parents..whoever took madeleine made them victims ..get off your high horse ad stop trying to show off by making jokes ..you are a disgrace !!!
Mccanns were NOT victims of the hacking scandal.......that was the context you failed to grasp
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They will be quite happy with these stories - they perpetuate the idea that Madeleine might be alive somewhere. I would not be surprised if Clarence Mitchell is behind them.
This is the best campaign and costs nothing.
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The DS set out to deliberately mislead the public with those headlines. Is it not bad enough that Madeleine might be lying in some shallow grave or at the bottom of a pit without these mindless moronic journalists making things worse for her parents?
I have just noticed what you added as an edit.
You are as bad as The Star john
goodbye forum
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Mccanns were NOT victims of the hacking scandal.......that was the context you failed to grasp
its the way your posts always look gobbledegook!!!
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what a stupid post (the real victims) ?? MADELEINE is a victim and so are her parents..whoever took madeleine made them victims ..get off your high horse ad stop trying to show off by making jokes ..you are a disgrace !!!
IMO The only reason why some people are against the Hacked off campaign is because the McCanns are in favour of it - and they are quite happy to turn a blind eye to the suffering the press has caused to all the other innocent victims in their pursuit of their 'dislike' of the McCanns.
Strange isn't it - you would think that as (according to some people) the McCanns 'control' the press they would be the last people in the world to want any changes - but in fact it's quite the opposite - as they are supporting the Leveson recommendations. How weird is that?
There were around 176,000 signatures in support of the Hacked off Petition last time I looked.
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its the way your posts always look gobbledegook!!!
Your inability to read and comprehend and think rather....
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IMO The only reason why some people are against the Hacked off campaign is because the McCanns are in favour of it -
What a silly opinion.....everyone has sympathy for the real victims of hacking.....the mccanns were nothing to do with it....at all...it was another bandwagon they jumped on like it or lump it..Benice...just as they jumped on the bandwagon of european amber alert and 116 phone lines..things in progress but their pr made it seem they were the ones responsible for them! Get real
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What a silly opinion.....everyone has sympathy for the real victims of hacking.....the mccanns were nothing to do with it....at all
Hardly Red, otherwise they would not have been invited to give evidence at the Leveson Enquiry. It wasn't only about phone hacking.
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What a silly opinion.....everyone has sympathy for the real victims of hacking.....the mccanns were nothing to do with it....at all...it was another bandwagon they jumped on like it or lump it..Benice
Agree - quite why they were allowed to gatecrash Leveson is a mystery.
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What a silly opinion.....everyone has sympathy for the real victims of hacking.....the mccanns were nothing to do with it....at all
Beat me to it
IMO The only reason why some people are against the Hacked off campaign is because the McCanns are in favour of it
Actually made me laugh
Yes of course I oppose an attack on freedom of expression for one reason only & that is because I don't like Gerry & Kate very much.
Really wtf?
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Agree - quite why they were allowed to gatecrash Leveson is a mystery.
LOL - as if ANYONE would be allowed to gatecrash the Leveson Enquiry!
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Hardly Red, otherwise they would not have been invited to give evidence at the Leveson Enquiry. It wasn't only about phone hacking.
They put themselves forward and were accepted, never invited per se and again NOTHING to do sigh the crux of phone hacking, opportunists IMO to further their case of media VICTIM, dodgy ground, night dear Benice
Still Brookes and Coulson are in court next week, charged with perversion of the course of justice,that should be interesting
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Hardly Red, otherwise they would not have been invited to give evidence at the Leveson Enquiry. It wasn't only about phone hacking.
They used the media in an unprecedented way. The media used them as well. Amazing or fair reciprocity ?
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Agree - quite why they were allowed to gatecrash Leveson is a mystery.
An attempt to gag the press before they decide to leak that which the McCanns would rather went untold.
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The DS set out to deliberately mislead the public with those headlines. Is it not bad enough that Madeleine might be lying in some shallow grave or at the bottom of a pit without these mindless moronic journalists making things worse for her parents?
I have just noticed what you added as an edit.
You are as bad as The Star john
goodbye forum
Notice the words > MIGHT BE.
She also might be alive and well and living with someone somewhere. I know which alternative I hope for.
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They put themselves forward and were accepted, never invited per se and again NOTHING to do sigh the crux of phone hacking, opportunists IMO to further their case of media VICTIM, dodgy ground, night dear Benice
Still Brookes and Coulson are in court next week, charged with perversion of the course of justice,that should be interesting
If what the McCanns had to say was of no relevance to the Leveson enquiry they would not have been allowed to contribute. It's pure nonsense to suggest otherwise. They were victims of the press and it was the press that was the subject of the enquiry.
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They used the media in an unprecedented way. The media used them as well. Amazing or fair reciprocity ?
Excellent observation Anne so one is as bad as the other?
Could it be said that they both ultimately used each other to fill the coffers?
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I wonder how many complaints have been received by the Press Complaints Commission?
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This is the way to deal with it. Yes, the rags write some appalling rubbish, but we can choose not to buy it! The Daily Mail is the epitome of everything I find abhorrent about the human race, but if we ban it, what's next?
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Voltaire
Anne, the only thing that impresses me more than your ability to always find the right quote for every situation, is knowing that you can do it in at least three languages!
Beat me to it
IMO The only reason why some people are against the Hacked off campaign is because the McCanns are in favour of it
Actually made me laugh
Yes of course I oppose an attack on freedom of expression for one reason only & that is because I don't like Gerry & Kate very much.
Really wtf?
Seconded!
If what the McCanns had to say was of no relevance to the Leveson enquiry they would not have been allowed to contribute. It's pure nonsense to suggest otherwise. They were victims of the press and it was the press that was the subject of the enquiry.
They played the press! They just didn't like it when the press turned on them! They were hardly victims! Chris Jefferies was a victim!
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If what the McCanns had to say was of no relevance to the Leveson enquiry they would not have been allowed to contribute. It's pure nonsense to suggest otherwise. They were victims of the press and it was the press that was the subject of the enquiry.
Not always, they were given a chance to stop the stories by Christopher Meyer early on.....they rejected his help!
Youre sooo naive Benice......bless though
I never said they were irrelevant, the leveson inquiry sprung from the phone hacking scandal...nothing at all to do with the mccanns...not one iota.... The terms were broadened slightly....the mccanns jumped on...before you know it the mccanns abuse by the media was THE story above all others, real victims, so YES, they hijacked it.....
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This is the way to deal with it. Yes, the rags write some appalling rubbish, but we can choose not to buy it! The Daily Mail is the epitome of everything I find abhorrent about the human race, but if we ban it, what's next?
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Voltaire
Anne, the only thing that impresses me more than your ability to always find the right quote for every situation, is knowing that you can do it in at least three languages!
Seconded!
They played the press! They just didn't like it when the press turned on them! They were hardly victims! Chris Jefferies was a victim!
The McCanns used the press to help them in their search for Madeleine - to keep her profile as high as possible which is the advice given by the experts- to give the missing person the best chance of being found.
The press for their part used and then abused them to increase their profits and have never stopped using them since.
The press don't give a hoot about the McCanns, but they know their name sells newspapers - and that is the only reason why they never miss a chance to bring Madeleine's name into every article they can. FGS the proof of that is there for all to see in the Star articles!
You seem to have forgotten what the press did to the McCanns and their friends - once again purely in the name of profit, but which they eventually and quite rightly had to pay £900,000 in compensation.
The Leveson enquiry sought to prevent that flagrant persecution and downright libelling of innocent people by a Press who didn't care if lives were being ruined as long as the profits were up. I do not understand how anyone except the Press Barons can be against that.
AIMHO
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"You seem to have forgotten what the press did to the McCanns and their friends - once again purely in the name of profit, but which they eventually and quite rightly had to pay £900,000 in compensation. "
All the stories the Express group ran were correct at the time of publication, however owing to Portuguese secrecy law the journalists were unable to name their sources at that time (them sources being the PJ), and thus the McCanns & T7 were able to exploit this legal technicality.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id392.html
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"You seem to have forgotten what the press did to the McCanns and their friends - once again purely in the name of profit, but which they eventually and quite rightly had to pay £900,000 in compensation. "
All the stories the Express group ran were correct at the time of publication, however owing to Portuguese secrecy law the journalists were unable to name their sources at that time (them sources being the PJ), and thus the McCanns & T7 were able to exploit this legal technicality.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id392.html
As a hero of mine once said ...''You cannot be serious''
The case didn't even get to court for any 'legal technicalities' to be exploited. The 'press 'knew they didn't have a leg to stand on and so offered an out of court settlement - as the cheapest way for them to deal with the consequences of their blatent and repeated libel.
IMO as long as the profits they made from libelling the McCanns exceeded the 'damages' settlement - then it was worth it . The Leveson Enquiry sought to change that situation - so that NOT libelling people became the preferred option from a profit-making POV.
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As a hero of mine once said ...''You cannot be serious''
The case didn't even get to court for any 'legal technicalities' to be exploited. The 'press 'knew they didn't have a leg to stand on and so offered an out of court settlement - as the cheapest way for them to deal with the consequences of their blatent and repeated libel.
IMO as long as the profits they made from libelling the McCanns exceeded the 'damages' settlement - then it was worth it . The Leveson Enquiry sought to change that situation - so that NOT libelling people became the preferred option from a profit-making POV.
The legal technicality, as I already explained ,was that they (Express journalists) could not name the sources of the stories they wrote (the PJ because of secrecy law).
Yes your right, it did not make it to court & Express group settled, it was an impossible case for them to fight.
But not because anything they printed was untrue but simply their sources could not be confirmed.
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At least those are obvious disgusting taste titles - you can't miss what garbage they are selling -, the disguised ones are the most dangerous.
The BBC is much more dangerous than any red top and yet nobody cares how they twist the news, not only this, that are insignificant in the great schema, but world wide affecting news.
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I would say Sky News is the greater danger to untruths. Tonight a guest brought in specifically to discuss the latest news from Lisbon had the audacity to claim that the PJ only ever investigated the Madeleine disappearance as a staged abduction and not a proper one. If this is the sort of garbage mainstream media intends to feed the populace then God help us all.
The propaganda machine is well and truly oiled.
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I would say Sky News is the greater danger to untruths. Tonight a guest brought in specifically to discuss the latest news from Lisbon had the audacity to claim that the PJ only ever investigated the Madeleine disappearance as a staged abduction and not a proper one. If this is the sort of garbage mainstream media intends to feed the populace then God help us all.
The propaganda machine is well and truly oiled.
Which is what bothers me most about this case, not the fate of the girl but the obvious lies we are forced to accept by the MSM.
If they can spin & lie about this case freely & force people to buy it, then our freedom of thought & opinion is under threat.
God help us indeed.