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Offline VIXTE

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #165 on: November 18, 2013, 10:15:26 PM »
Re lorries I mentioned earlier, I now remember there was an ITV news clip from the petrol station in Marrakech and in this clip the lorries were been parked just from the other side of the petrol station. Looked like a lorry rest area. This was in May 2007 but I cannot find this video anywhere. The ITV news team went to the petrol station. ( Mari Olli sighting)

The same if you looked at google earth the same type of a lorry was parked next to 5A, from the back ( front door side)

Does anyone remember this video, I would love to revisit it...
« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 10:17:21 PM by VIXTE »

Redblossom

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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #166 on: November 18, 2013, 10:35:46 PM »
Re lorries I mentioned earlier, I now remember there was an ITV news clip from the petrol station in Marrakech and in this clip the lorries were been parked just from the other side of the petrol station. Looked like a lorry rest area. This was in May 2007 but I cannot find this video anywhere. The ITV news team went to the petrol station. ( Mari Olli sighting)

The same if you looked at google earth the same type of a lorry was parked next to 5A, from the back ( front door side)

Does anyone remember this video, I would love to revisit it...

Im sure you would  love to run up 1000 false garden paths for some reason.....bit of a waste of time.....there are hundreds of so called sightings all over the world...maybe start a project, researching them,  instead of asking endless questions without doing your own research....then put them nto an excel file and post here......

Offline VIXTE

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #167 on: November 18, 2013, 11:33:58 PM »
Im sure you would  love to run up 1000 false garden paths for some reason.....bit of a waste of time.....there are hundreds of so called sightings all over the world...maybe start a project, researching them,  instead of asking endless questions without doing your own research....then put them nto an excel file and post here......

There are at least 4 sightings in Morocco, more than everywhere else

Redblossom

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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #168 on: November 18, 2013, 11:36:54 PM »
There are at least 4 sightings in Morocco, more than everywhere else

All dud too


Offline pegasus

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #169 on: November 19, 2013, 01:22:33 AM »
Some semblance of normality and reality and rationality would explain people shouting when half the town was out searching that night! searchers are on video saying this is exactly what was happening, people were shouting left right and centre to each other
 8((()*/
I agree, and so the 11pm sighting is likely to be two searchers, discussing briefly how bad the current situation is, that no-one has found her yet, and where to search next. If the witness does not understand the foreign language English and maybe is not aware yet that a child is missing, it would be easy to misinterpret a discussion between paniced searchers in the street. I think that is what it is, two completely innocent searchers desperately searching.
Sorry I can't remember which 2008 UK Rog statement it was in, but it was two members of the holidaying group whose search paths happened to cross. I just noted that the location is close to the location mapped on TV.  Even it is the same, it simply means that people were genuinely desperatly searching (and also that SY don't have the same knowledge of the layout of the town as lowly forum posters and might have had the innocent answer in a file on their shelf already). It might be a different pair of searchers, I don't know.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #170 on: November 19, 2013, 07:35:01 PM »
Wednesday 6 June 2007

Flight from Berlin to Amsterdam delayed due to anonymous phone call from an unidentified man to police saying he knew where Madeleine was and wanting to speak to the McCann's personally. The man reportedly made no further contact. K & G reportedly stayed in the Consulate or with the Ambassador while awaiting further news.

The hunt for abducted Madeleine McCann was linked to South America today for the first time.

It is understood a mysterious call claiming to know the whereabouts of the four-year-old came from a mobile phone registered in Argentina.

The "credible" call was considered so potentially significant that the McCanns halted their search of Europe to help police investigate.

They delayed their flight from Berlin to Amsterdam by three hours and plans were drawn up to divert to the UK.

It was thought the McCanns might need to return to Britain to talk to specialist advisers about the call.

The call from the pay-as-you-go phone came from a man who wanted to speak directly to the McCanns, according to Spanish police sources.

He did not reveal his identity or nationality, but the phone was soon linked to the South American country.


6 JUNE Blog- We did manage to catch up with a few friends briefly who we know from the year we lived in Amsterdam. They have been actively campaigning here on our behalf with poster distribution, contacting media and liasing with companies to get advertising space for large posters of Madeleine.

8 JUNE Blog - Sean, in particular has acquired a taste for sea-bass!

Monday 11 June
- De Telegraaf receives the anonymous letter allegedly identifying where the Madeleine's body has been buried. De Telegraaf passes this on immediately to the Amsterdam police.


Who are these friends in Amsterdam? The McCann's lived there for a year. That strange letter arrives just after their Amsterdam trip. Is there a connection between this anonymous caller and the letter? The letter arrives at the De Telegraaf in Amsterdam just after the McCann's have been there.


Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #171 on: November 19, 2013, 07:40:44 PM »
Wednesday 6 June 2007

Flight from Berlin to Amsterdam delayed due to anonymous phone call from an unidentified man to police saying he knew where Madeleine was and wanting to speak to the McCann's personally. The man reportedly made no further contact. K & G reportedly stayed in the Consulate or with the Ambassador while awaiting further news.

The hunt for abducted Madeleine McCann was linked to South America today for the first time.

It is understood a mysterious call claiming to know the whereabouts of the four-year-old came from a mobile phone registered in Argentina.

The "credible" call was considered so potentially significant that the McCanns halted their search of Europe to help police investigate.

They delayed their flight from Berlin to Amsterdam by three hours and plans were drawn up to divert to the UK.

It was thought the McCanns might need to return to Britain to talk to specialist advisers about the call.

The call from the pay-as-you-go phone came from a man who wanted to speak directly to the McCanns, according to Spanish police sources.

He did not reveal his identity or nationality, but the phone was soon linked to the South American country.


6 JUNE Blog- We did manage to catch up with a few friends briefly who we know from the year we lived in Amsterdam. They have been actively campaigning here on our behalf with poster distribution, contacting media and liasing with companies to get advertising space for large posters of Madeleine.

8 JUNE Blog - Sean, in particular has acquired a taste for sea-bass!

Monday 11 June
- De Telegraaf receives the anonymous letter allegedly identifying where the Madeleine's body has been buried. De Telegraaf passes this on immediately to the Amsterdam police.


Who are these friends in Amsterdam? The McCann's lived there for a year. That strange letter arrives just after their Amsterdam trip. Is there a connection between this anonymous caller and the letter? The letter arrives at the De Telegraaf in Amsterdam just after the McCann's have been there.

I suppose the Dutch police did check for fingerprints?
I have wondered if this was an attempt to have Madeleine found, but it went wrong.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #172 on: November 19, 2013, 07:52:11 PM »
SAT 2 JUNE - Diary: I can't remember today (which is now yesterday!).

"Lagos Norte" (20:11:08). Returning to Praia da Luz, where it activated antenna "Praia da Luz Centre" at 22:46:11.

2.5 hour gap from Lagos to PDL.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #173 on: November 19, 2013, 08:07:20 PM »
I suppose the Dutch police did check for fingerprints?
I have wondered if this was an attempt to have Madeleine found, but it went wrong.

Agreed there's something strange going on and the timeline fits with my present theory of possibly being buried on SAT 2 JUNE. Then on the 6th the Amsterdam flight being delayed because of the caller and then the letter received in Amsterdam. Weird.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 08:11:59 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #174 on: November 19, 2013, 08:21:55 PM »
29 JUNE Blog: Early rise this morning dropping off and picking up good friends from the airport. One of our friends from Amsterdam, who has been actively campaigning to publicise Madeleines disappearance, dropped in to see us for a couple of hours since he is on a golfing trip in the Algarve.

Our friends brought back my wallet which had been returned, needless to say minus the Sterling, although all my cards and €30 were still in it! It is good to have my driving license back and one or two other important things.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #175 on: November 19, 2013, 11:42:36 PM »
The wallet was returned by FP/DP see pings, Outros Apensos 13, Jun 29 to July 02.

Offline pegasus

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #176 on: November 19, 2013, 11:54:12 PM »
Jun 6, when a mystery phonecall almost results in private flight being diverted to UK instead of Holland. Coincidentally wasn't it earlier that same day, the very first indication appeared (in an Irish regional newspaper) that the Irish witnesses had been speaking to police.
 

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #177 on: November 20, 2013, 12:18:29 AM »
Thanks for the info Pegasus.

The day after 2 June they announce a big event for Madeleine:

On 3 June 2007, Dr Gerald McCann said: “We want a big event to raise awareness she is still missing…It won’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that”.

Where can I find the rest of these mobile record sheets? Thanks.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #178 on: November 20, 2013, 12:56:15 AM »
The wallet was returned by FP/DP see pings, Outros Apensos 13, Jun 29 to July 02.

Thanks DP is one guy I can't trust. How could anyone believe these testimonies?

KM
While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. After showering, at around 6:30/6:40 p.m. and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the balcony door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who was at the balcony door. This door was closed but not locked as Gerry had left through this door.

DP
1485    ”But could you remember what Kate was wearing for example?”
Reply    ”I can’t, no.”

No mention of the visit in both their first statements.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2013, 01:01:34 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #179 on: November 20, 2013, 02:21:34 AM »
IMO that visit happened and its unlikely they invented it. I prefer to assume both those witnesses are honest. IMO there is information in the statements of both, about the inside of the apartment at discovery and shortly after, which is valuable in reconstructing what happened.