Strange Witness Statements

[Anna]

Reply “Yeah.”
1485 “The first one, the phone number ends in, and I’ll just give you the last four digits.”
Reply “Will you just hang on two secs, this is a bit, okay.”
1485 “It’s eight, seven, one, three.”
Reply “Eight, seven, one, three… Simon ALDRIDGE.”
1485 “And who’s Simon ALDRIDGE?”
Reply “Err he is err my, Fiona’s sister Louise WEBSTER, that’s her husband.”
1485 “And what sort of a relationship do you have with him?”
Reply “Err a very good relationship. He is err someone that I’ve known for many years, we’ve been to their wedding, they came to our wedding, and err he’s you know a very good friend.”

https://duartelevyen.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/maddie-david-payne-interview-at-leicestershire-police-headquarters-%E2%80%93-part-iiiii/

[DCI]

Reply “Yeah.”
1485 “The first one, the phone number ends in, and I’ll just give you the last four digits.”
Reply “Will you just hang on two secs, this is a bit, okay.”
1485 “It’s eight, seven, one, three.”
Reply “Eight, seven, one, three… Simon ALDRIDGE.”
1485 “And who’s Simon ALDRIDGE?”
Reply “Err he is err my, Fiona’s sister Louise WEBSTER, that’s her husband.”
1485 “And what sort of a relationship do you have with him?”
Reply “Err a very good relationship. He is err someone that I’ve known for many years, we’ve been to their wedding, they came to our wedding, and err he’s you know a very good friend.”

https://duartelevyen.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/maddie-david-payne-interview-at-leicestershire-police-headquarters-%E2%80%93-part-iiiii/

As I thought Anna, another translation error.


It does seem odd to say a sister went to their wedding and visa versa,  when they are relatives.

[Anna]

As I thought Anna, another translation error.


It does seem odd to say a sister went to their wedding and visa versa,  when they are relatives.

Maybe David or Simon weren't married when they went to the other's wedding. It seems weddings come up a lot in the Tapas statements, when referring to friendships.
 They could even live far apart.
I didn't make it to any of my siblings weddings because it was too far to travel, (Germany, America and Scottish highlands) children to sort out and work commitments.
 Anyway it seems it was a friend of Simon Aldridge who lived in Portugal who apparently got the phones after SA contacted him. I had a job trying to work it all out. Hopefully got it right now. Please let me know if any faults there, DCI.

[Brietta]

So mysterious were these phones that it seems they were delivered to the police station where David Payne was given permission to collect them and bring them in.

I still think the most perplexing thing about this rogatory statement is at the top of the page ... TRANSCRIPT BY NICKED AND WHATEVER:  what on earth is that about?

**snip
01:04:02 1485 "And where were these phones, when did these phones arrive''
 Reply "Err when did we get the phones' When we were at the Police Station, err you know as, you know I just asked whether I could just pop downstairs there was someone who's brought us phones and they said yeah, so I quickly popped downstairs, got the phones, and took them back into the Police Station. Err I can't remember if there was any power in them when we opened them up but err so then that was, you know, so the phones were just, you know because we hadn't got any other, anything there, so.'
1485 "And what phones were they' Do you remember what sort of, what make they were''
 Reply "Err they were Samsung phones, err and I think they were Vodaphone SIM cards. Err the actual model, I can't tell you the Samsung phone but they were, something like the Samsung three hundred, something like that.'
1485 "Yeah, how many phones were there''
 Reply "There was, there was two err and we ended up, err again, we ended up keeping one and Kate and Gerry had one, I think we gave the second one to Kate and Gerry as well after a while but we were err you know because they'd got credit put on to them so we were just using those phones rather than run up the expense of our own phones.'
1485 "Yeah.'
 01:05:33 Reply "So err yeah.'
1485 "So the two phones, you've kept one and gave one to Kate and Gerry''
 Reply "Kate and Gerry yeah.'
1485 "And do you have the numbers of those phones in your phone''
 Reply "I don't, no, no.'
1485 "Where are these phones now''
 Reply "Err as far as I am aware that they, you know, remained in Portugal, again''
1485 "With whom''
 Reply "With Kate and Gerry.'
1485 "So Kate and Gerry took possession of that second phone which you had''
 Reply "Well, they certainly kept the first one, the second one, the second one, sorry, no I think that's rubbish. I think I, I may well have got the, I might have got the second phone. Actually I've got a sneaky feeling when I got home I tried the UK SIM card in it and it didn't work so I could well have got the second phone.'
1485 "So is it likely that this second phone is at your home address''
 Reply "Err that is a strong possibility.'
1485 "So two Samsung phones.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'
1485 "One is, to your knowledge, still with Kate and Gerry.'
 Reply "Yeah.'
 1485 "The other one you may well have at your home address.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'
1485 "Did you use the phones often''
 Reply "Not''
1485 "In Portugal''
 Reply "Not a great deal no, no, it was, it was, first of all you know we didn't have any numbers in them already and then with being a Portuguese phone you know it was just a bit more difficult so we, if we ever used them, I mean which wasn't often, we'd perhaps call Kate and Gerry using the Portuguese phone, but it wasn't a kind of religious oh we'll just use the, that Portuguese phone to err you know establish communication.'
1485 "Yeah.'
 01:07:23 Reply "Err you know and the other reason that we, we had the, one of the phones is because Fiona didn't have a phone either so you know, so it's like she had the use of the other phone as well.'
1485 "Right, so out of the two of you then, who predominantly used that phone''
 Reply "I'd say Fiona.'
1485 "Fiona''
 Reply "Yeah.'
1485 "And has it been used since it's been in the UK''
 Reply "No.'
1485 "Okay, okay.'
 Reply "And I'm just trying to think you know how much, you know the, the, I can't remember you know obviously we were there for four weeks after but when the actual credit ran out, because I remember the credit running out and not being able to actually put anymore on even though it's supposed to be quite straight forward but again, you know whether that was after, you know, three weeks of being out there or whatever I can't remember.'
1485 "Yeah, how many times do you think you topped it up then''
 Reply "I don't, I don't think we did, I don't think I did. I don't think I could work out how to do it to be honest.'
1485 "So when both of them arrived both of them had credit on them''
 Reply "They put, I think they put, I think err I think they put forty pound credit or forty euros, you know, which seemed to last a lot longer than the amount of credit we were (inaudible) we were using our own err mobile phones.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

[pathfinder73]

1485 "And do you have the numbers of those phones in your phone''
 Reply "I don't, no, no.'
1485 "Where are these phones now''
 Reply "Err as far as I am aware that they, you know, remained in Portugal, again''
1485 "With whom''
 Reply "With Kate and Gerry.'
1485 "So Kate and Gerry took possession of that second phone which you had''
 Reply "Well, they certainly kept the first one, the second one, the second one, sorry, no I think that's rubbish. I think I, I may well have got the, I might have got the second phone. Actually I've got a sneaky feeling when I got home I tried the UK SIM card in it and it didn't work so I could well have got the second phone.'
1485 "So is it likely that this second phone is at your home address''
 Reply "Err that is a strong possibility.'
1485 "So two Samsung phones.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'
1485 "One is, to your knowledge, still with Kate and Gerry.'
 Reply "Yeah.'
 1485 "The other one you may well have at your home address.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'

Did they investigate the person who actually got the two mobiles (purchased where?)  and the numbers? We don't know so it should be investigated.

[Anna]

So mysterious were these phones that it seems they were delivered to the police station where David Payne was given permission to collect them and bring them in.

I still think the most perplexing thing about this rogatory statement is at the top of the page ... TRANSCRIPT BY NICKED AND WHATEVER:  what on earth is that about?

**snip
01:04:02 1485 "And where were these phones, when did these phones arrive''
 Reply "Err when did we get the phones' When we were at the Police Station, err you know as, you know I just asked whether I could just pop downstairs there was someone who's brought us phones and they said yeah, so I quickly popped downstairs, got the phones, and took them back into the Police Station. Err I can't remember if there was any power in them when we opened them up but err so then that was, you know, so the phones were just, you know because we hadn't got any other, anything there, so.'
1485 "And what phones were they' Do you remember what sort of, what make they were''
 Reply "Err they were Samsung phones, err and I think they were Vodaphone SIM cards. Err the actual model, I can't tell you the Samsung phone but they were, something like the Samsung three hundred, something like that.'
1485 "Yeah, how many phones were there''
 Reply "There was, there was two err and we ended up, err again, we ended up keeping one and Kate and Gerry had one, I think we gave the second one to Kate and Gerry as well after a while but we were err you know because they'd got credit put on to them so we were just using those phones rather than run up the expense of our own phones.'
1485 "Yeah.'
 01:05:33 Reply "So err yeah.'
1485 "So the two phones, you've kept one and gave one to Kate and Gerry''
 Reply "Kate and Gerry yeah.'
1485 "And do you have the numbers of those phones in your phone''
 Reply "I don't, no, no.'
1485 "Where are these phones now''
 Reply "Err as far as I am aware that they, you know, remained in Portugal, again''
1485 "With whom''
 Reply "With Kate and Gerry.'
1485 "So Kate and Gerry took possession of that second phone which you had''
 Reply "Well, they certainly kept the first one, the second one, the second one, sorry, no I think that's rubbish. I think I, I may well have got the, I might have got the second phone. Actually I've got a sneaky feeling when I got home I tried the UK SIM card in it and it didn't work so I could well have got the second phone.'
1485 "So is it likely that this second phone is at your home address''
 Reply "Err that is a strong possibility.'
1485 "So two Samsung phones.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'
1485 "One is, to your knowledge, still with Kate and Gerry.'
 Reply "Yeah.'
 1485 "The other one you may well have at your home address.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'
1485 "Did you use the phones often''
 Reply "Not''
1485 "In Portugal''
 Reply "Not a great deal no, no, it was, it was, first of all you know we didn't have any numbers in them already and then with being a Portuguese phone you know it was just a bit more difficult so we, if we ever used them, I mean which wasn't often, we'd perhaps call Kate and Gerry using the Portuguese phone, but it wasn't a kind of religious oh we'll just use the, that Portuguese phone to err you know establish communication.'
1485 "Yeah.'
 01:07:23 Reply "Err you know and the other reason that we, we had the, one of the phones is because Fiona didn't have a phone either so you know, so it's like she had the use of the other phone as well.'
1485 "Right, so out of the two of you then, who predominantly used that phone''
 Reply "I'd say Fiona.'
1485 "Fiona''
 Reply "Yeah.'
1485 "And has it been used since it's been in the UK''
 Reply "No.'
1485 "Okay, okay.'
 Reply "And I'm just trying to think you know how much, you know the, the, I can't remember you know obviously we were there for four weeks after but when the actual credit ran out, because I remember the credit running out and not being able to actually put anymore on even though it's supposed to be quite straight forward but again, you know whether that was after, you know, three weeks of being out there or whatever I can't remember.'
1485 "Yeah, how many times do you think you topped it up then''
 Reply "I don't, I don't think we did, I don't think I did. I don't think I could work out how to do it to be honest.'
1485 "So when both of them arrived both of them had credit on them''
 Reply "They put, I think they put, I think err I think they put forty pound credit or forty euros, you know, which seemed to last a lot longer than the amount of credit we were (inaudible) we were using our own err mobile phones.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

I agree, Brietta,
There is no mystery they were taken into the police station for all to see.
They could hardly have been expected to go without a phone in the circumstances.

[Brietta]

1485 "And do you have the numbers of those phones in your phone''
 Reply "I don't, no, no.'
1485 "Where are these phones now''
 Reply "Err as far as I am aware that they, you know, remained in Portugal, again''
1485 "With whom''
 Reply "With Kate and Gerry.'
1485 "So Kate and Gerry took possession of that second phone which you had''
 Reply "Well, they certainly kept the first one, the second one, the second one, sorry, no I think that's rubbish. I think I, I may well have got the, I might have got the second phone. Actually I've got a sneaky feeling when I got home I tried the UK SIM card in it and it didn't work so I could well have got the second phone.'
1485 "So is it likely that this second phone is at your home address''
 Reply "Err that is a strong possibility.'
1485 "So two Samsung phones.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'
1485 "One is, to your knowledge, still with Kate and Gerry.'
 Reply "Yeah.'
 1485 "The other one you may well have at your home address.'
 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'

Did they investigate the person who actually got the two mobiles (purchased where?)  and the numbers? We don't know so it should be investigated.

PF, I think you are getting a bee in your bonnet over nothing ... the explanation for the phones is there for all to see ... and there is no doubt that all the phone pings emanating from these and any other phones held by the group would be thoroughly checked out.

[pathfinder73]

3rd May;

19:30:38 Network Provider texts Dianne Webster

19:31:47 Dianne Webster calls home for 176 seconds

19:59:26 David Payne texts xxxx (Possibly message centre or browser access)

20:30:21 Jane Tanner texts Charlotte Gorrod (a friend who was in Luz at the time)

22:45:05 xxxx texts Matthew Oldfield

22:51:24 Rachael Oldfield calls Matthew Oldfield for 15 seconds

22:58:29 Matthew texts Rachael

22:59:12 Rachael texts Matthew

23:00:18 Matthew texts Rachael

23:05:44 Matthew texts Rachael

23:06:17 Rachael calls Matthew for 59 seconds

23:14:51 Gerry called Kate for 8 seconds

23:17:06 Gerry called Kate for 31 seconds

23:17:52 xxxx texts Kate

23:24:31 Rachael texts Matthew

23:40:00 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 00:11:13

23:52:18 Gerry calls Kennedy’s of Leicester for 00:02:30

4th May;

00:00:27 Kate calls her Mum & Dad for 128 seconds

00:05:00 Gerry calls Kennedy’s of Leicester for 3 seconds

00:05:45 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 3 seconds

00:06:15 Gerry calls Kennedy’s of Leicester for 00:02:47

00:08:01 Matthew texts Rachael

00:08:12 xxxx texts Matthew (says in his interview that he doesn't recognise the number)

00:11:01 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 6 seconds

00:13:14 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 3 seconds

00:13:50 Kate calls her Mum & Dad for 407 seconds

00:20:00 Gerry calls sister Philomena McCann

00:20:08 Rachael texts Matthew

00:20:37 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 22 seconds

00:21:36 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 23 seconds

00:21:41 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 3 seconds

00:23:12 Gerry calls brother John’s mobile for 00:03:55

00:27:07 Trish Cameron calls Gerry for 00:02:28

00:29:37 Angela Morado (British Consulate) calls Gerry for 00:04:53

00:34:31 Dianne Webster calls home for 478 seconds

00:36:21 Kate calls xxxx for 31 seconds

00:37:05 xxxx texts Kate

00:38:40 Sister Philomena calls Gerry for 00:06:40

00:39:58 Kate calls xxxx for 34 seconds

00:40:50 xxxx texts Kate

00:45:15 Kennedy’s of Leicester call Gerry for 00:01:18

00:45:49 Kate calls xxxx (Possibly Parents) for 31 seconds

00:47:23 Aurelio Mendes Guerreiro (Pat Perkin’s friend, owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura, 1 hour drive East of Luz) calls Kate (but speaks to a male) for 239 seconds

00:47:41 Angela Morado (British Consulate) calls Gerry for 00:02:15

00:53:08 xxxx texts Kate

4th Ctd;

01:02:08 Aurelio Mendes Guerreiro (Pat Perkin’s friend, owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura, 1 hour drive East of Luz) calls Kate for 223 seconds

01:16:11 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:01:57

01:17:17 David Payne calls Dianne Webster for 92 seconds

01:29:58 Sister Philomena calls Gerry for 00:03:36

01:42:55 Rachael calls Kath Landale for 75 seconds

01:43:55 xxxx (Possibly mum Eileen) calls Gerry for 00:03:29

01:58:33 Kath Landale calls Rachael for 00:06:58

02:07:03 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna - No further info available

02:18:29 xxxx texts Kate

02:20:03 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna

02:21:12 Kate texts xxxx

02:22:45 Kath Landale calls Rachael for 125 seconds

02:23:27 xxxx texts Kate

02:27:28 Kate calls xxxx

02:33:28 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 692 seconds

02:33:38 xxxx texts Matthew

02:38:58 Lynda & Mark McQueen landline calls Kate for 585 seconds

02:53:49 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 16 seconds

03:05:03 xxxx (Possibly Paul Seddon - McCann Priest) texts Kate

03:06:17 Kate texts xxxx (Possibly Paul Seddon)

03:06:54 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 5 seconds

03:07:38 Kate calls Jon Corner Mobile for 3 seconds

03:08:33 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 3 seconds

03:09:05 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 4 seconds

03:10:29 Kate calls xxxx for 10 seconds

03:20:21 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 14 seconds

03:23:28 Jon Corner Mobile calls Kate for 184 seconds

03:28:46 Jon Corner Mobile calls Kate for 416 seconds

03:31:13 xxxx texts Kate

03:39:04 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 207 seconds

03:55:21 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

03:55:56 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

4th Ctd;

04:03:44 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

04:05:40 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

04:12:33 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

04:14:44 Gerry texts xxxx

04:19:02 xxxx (Possibly Sandy Cameron mobile) texts Gerry

04:20:34 Brother John (mobile) texts Gerry

04:22:12 xxxx texts Kate

04:31:30 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

04:36:30 xxxx (Unidentified UK Mobile) calls Kate for 1727 seconds

04:52:16 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

04:55:54 Kate texts xxxx

06:02:08 Susan Healy mobile texts Kate

06:04:11 Kate texts her Mum’s mobile

06:05:29 Kate calls Amanda’s home landline for 702 seconds

06:08:17 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

06:18:17 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

06:26:30 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 447 seconds

06:34:53 xxxx texts Kate

06:38:39 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 262 seconds

06:39:38 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

06:47:42 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

06:59:12 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

06:59:44 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)

07:06:06 xxxx (Possibly Sandy Cameron mobile) texts Gerry

[pathfinder73]

4 May

07:09:04 Brother John (mobile) calls Gerry for 00:03:26

07:15:19 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:04:51

07:23:20 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:05:53

07:41:14 Jill Renwick calls Kate for 210 seconds

07:44:48 Kate activates Luz Centro 1 Antenna (Withheld)

07:46:36 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - (Withheld)

07:48:12 xxxx calls Kate

07:51:14 xxxx (Possibly Gerry’s mum Eileen) calls Gerry for 00:01:26

07:52:58 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:01:14

07:55:26 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:01:45

07:57:55 xxxx (Leicestershire landline) calls Rachael for 00:02:04

08:05:11 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:00:42

08:06:13 Rachael’s Mum texts Rachael

08:06:14 Susan Healy (Mum’s) mobile texts Kate

08:07:52 Kate texts her Mum’s (Susan Healy) mobile

08:08:14 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:02:07

08:08:18 xxxx texts Rachael

08:09:56 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, calls David Payne for 71 seconds
08:10:31 Rachael calls Voicemail Retrieval for 00:00:49

08:11:27 xxxx texts Rachael

08:11:55 Jill Renwick calls Kate for 116 seconds

08:13:19 Russell O’Brien calls his mum on home landline in Liverpool for 169 seconds

08:13:19 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:05:26 (Network/Location withheld)

08:20:44 (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:01:44

08:27:26 xxxx texts Kate

08:28:50 Kate texts xxxx (same number as above) back

08:29:56 xxxx (same number again) texts Kate back

08:31 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner

08:31 Kate called Michelle Corner Mobile

08:31:21 Jill Renwick calls Kate for 153 seconds

08:33:32 (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 76 seconds

08:34:09 Kate calls xxxx for 32 seconds

08:34:19 Kate calls Jon Corner Mobile for 61 seconds

08:34:59 xxxx (Possibly Message Centre) texts Kate

08:35:15 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:01:43

08:35:31 Kate calls xxxx for 20 seconds

08:36:03 Kate calls xxxx for 37 seconds

08:42:14 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:07:43

08:45:20 Kate calls xxxx

08:46:50 xxxx texts Rachael

08:50:27 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:04:47

08:50:32 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:00:50

08:51:42 Kate texts xxxx

08:52:41 Kate calls Jon Corner Mobile for 75 seconds

08:53:07 David Payne calls his Mum for 127 seconds

08:53:56 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:11:42

08:56:15 Kate calls Nuala for 47 seconds

08:57:17 Jill Renwick texts Kate

08:57:37 Kath Landale texts Rachael
4th Continued

09:01:55 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:01:45

09:02:44 xxxx texts Rachael

09:02:58 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:00:01

09:04:16 xxxx (Possibly Gerry’s mum Eileen ) calls Gerry for 00:01:28

09:04:46 Jane Tanner texts Charlotte Gorrod

09:05:38 NUMBER WITHHELD / BLANKED OUT calls Gerry for 00:02:12

09:09:32 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

09:09:44 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

09:10:39 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

09:12:04 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

09:12:38 Jane Tanner calls her mum for 240 seconds

09:14:17 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:01:10

09:14:28 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:03:58

09:16:07 xxxx texts Gerry

09:22:53 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:03:27

09:25:51 xxxx texts Kate

09:26:03 xxxx texts Kate

09:29:18 Jill Renwick texts Kate

09:30:02 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

09:30:47 xxxx texts Gerry

09:33:22 Jon & Michelle Corner call Kate for 335 seconds

09:33:25 Kate calls xxxx for 57 seconds

09:34:42 901 (Message Centre?) texts Kate

09:35:51 Gerry texts xxxx

09:37:04 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

09:41:09 xxxx texts Gerry

09:41:52 NUMBER WITHHELD / BLANKED OUT calls Gerry for 00:07:07

09:45:21 Fiona & Richard (from Leicester) call Kate for 105 seconds

09:46:23 Jill Renwick texts Kate

09:47:48 Kate calls 901 (Message Centre?) for 58 seconds

09:49:01 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:01:42

09:49:50 xxxx texts Kate

09:50:23 xxxx texts Kate

09:50:38 Kate texts xxxx

09:51:12 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

09:51:14 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, calls David Payne for 95 seconds

09:55:14 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

09:57:04 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:02:36

09:58:53 xxxx texts Kate

09:59:20 xxxx texts Kate

09:59:31 xxxx texts Kate

10:01:06 Kate texts xxxx

10:01:17 Gerry calls Kate’s parents, The Healy’s, for 00:05:57

10:03:06 Kate activates Luz 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:06:08 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:02:52

10:06:23 xxxx calls Kate for 272 seconds

10:11:21 NUMBER WITHHELD / BLANKED OUT calls Gerry for 00:08:22

10:16:21 xxxx texts Kate

10:16:32 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, texts David Payne

10:17:16 Kate activates Luz 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:17:35 xxxx calls Rachael for 253 seconds

10:18:21 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate

10:20:42 Kate calls her Mum’s Mobile for 171 seconds

10:26:04 Dianne Webster’s home (husband) calls Dianne’s Mobile for 860 seconds

10:26:38 xxxx calls Kate for 16 seconds

10:27:24 xxxx calls Kate for 54 seconds

10:30:22 Kate calls Fiona & Richard

10:30:51 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, texts David Payne

10:31:06 xxxx calls Rachael for 261 seconds

10:32:57 Russell texts Jane

10:33:20 Kate activates Lagos Centro DCS 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:34:57 Kate activates Praia Porto MOS 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:35:49 Geetisha Mobile calls Kate (activated Bensafrim 1 Antenna)

10:38:38 Kate activates Odiaxere Norte 2 Antenna

10:40:00 Kate activates Odiaxere Norte 1 Antenna

10:42:58 NUMBER WITHHELD calls Gerry (while on way to Portimao cop shop)

10:44:53 Kate activates Portimao 1 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:45:24 xxxx calls Kate (Portimao 1 Antenna)

10:45:31 Dianne Webster calls xxxx for 31 seconds

10:46:52 Kate activates Portimao DCS 2 Antenna

10:48:38 Kate activates Portimao Estadio DCS 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:49:43 Russell calls xxxx for 63 seconds

10:49:50 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:51:46 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.

10:52:04 Russell calls his work (Prof AN - in France at the time) for 13 seconds

10:53:10 Russell calls another work colleague, TW, for 241 seconds

10:53:32 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

10:55:45 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

10:55:48 xxxx (BBC or British Consulate?) calls Rachael for 210 seconds

10:56:07 Brother John (mobile) calls Gerry (In Portimao) for 00:01:12

10:57:51 Jill Renwick Mobile calls Kate (activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna)

10:59:09 Kennedy’s of Leicester call Gerry (in Portimao) for 49 seconds
4th May Ctd

11:01:56 BBC or British Consulate? calls Rachael for 169 seconds

11:03:22 Sister Ruth (in Cardiff) texts Rachael

11:03:24 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:04:17 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

11:06:09 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

11:06:28 xxxx calls Gerry (in Portimao) for 52 seconds

11:06:40 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

11:08:28 David activates the Portimao Antenna

11:10:25 Russell calls his message centre for 31 seconds

11:11:19 Message centre calls/texts Russell for 0 seconds

11:11:40 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:12:12 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:14:27 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:16:21 Trish Cameron calls Gerry (in Portimao) for 35 seconds

11:16:54 Russell calls his message centre for 23 seconds

11:17:17 Daughter Louise calls Dianne Webster for 476 seconds

11:19:51 xxxx (BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 142 seconds

11:23:08 xxxx texts Gerry

11:24:18 xxxx texts Dianne Webster

11:25:05 xxxx texts Gerry

11:25:37 Daughter Louise texts Dianne Webster

11:27:14 xxxx texts Gerry

11:29:10 Gerry texts xxxx

11:32:08 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:36:31 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 3 Antenna

11:37:58 David Payne activates the Portimao Antenna

11:38:24 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:38:49 Anne & Michael Wright call Kate

11:39:36 xxxx texts Gerry

11:41:22 Daughter Louise texts Dianne Webster

11:41:54 Dianne Webster calls 351450 for 108 seconds

11:42:07 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:43:15 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:44:44 David activates the Portimao Antenna

11:45:10 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

11:45:24 David Payne calls Russell O’Brien for 88 seconds

11:45:48 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

11:51:00 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

11:52:16 xxxx texts Russell

11:53:05 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

11:55:48 xxxx texts Gerry)

11:55:57 Mum texts Rachael

11:56:13 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

11:57:09 Daughter Louise texts Dianne Webster
4th May Continued

12:03:02 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

12:03:16 Russell O’Brien calls David Payne for 173 seconds

12:03:28 Daughter Louise texts Dianne Webster

12:03:33 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:04:44 Rachael texts Kath Landale

12:05:36 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:06:15 Dianne Webster texts daughter Louise

12:09:32 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:09:42 Kath Landale texts Rachael

12:08:36 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:10:19 WITHHELD NUMBER & NETWORK called Gerry for 23 seconds

12:11:31 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

12:12:27 xxx texts Gerry

12:14:26 Russell O’Brien calls David Payne for 175 seconds

12:14:44 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:16:22 Kate called 901 (Portimao Centro 1 Antenna)

12:16:58 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

12:18:29 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:18:52 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:19:26 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:20:28 Russell O’Brien calls David Payne for 4 seconds

12:21:17 Russell O’Brien calls David Payne for 55 seconds

12:21:59 Russell calls his message centre for 5 seconds

12:22:14 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:24:43 David Payne calls Russell O’Brien for 237 seconds (No ping)

12:25:19 xxxx calls Kate

12:32:11 Rachael’s sister Ruth (in Cardiff) calls Rachael for 63 seconds

12:34:05 1100 texts Rachael

12:34:36 Rachael calls Voicemail Retrieval for 26 seconds

12:34:54 xxxx texts Gerry

12:35:07 100 texts Rachael

12:35:44 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:35:51 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:36:16 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:37:29 xxxxxxxx147 calls Kate (activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna)

12:38:13 Gerry (in Portimao) texts N/A

12:38:15 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:38:26 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

12:38:55 Kath Landale texts Rachael

12:38:57 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:39:00 Kath Landale texts Rachael

12:39:18 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:41:50 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

12:41:55 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:44:52 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:46:59 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:50:19 Matthew activates the Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

12:52:04 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:54:44 David activates the Portimao Antenna

12:56:48 xxxx calls Gerry (in Portimao) for 27 seconds

12:56:55 Kate calls Gerry

12:57:00 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:01:29 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:02:04 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:09:47 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:11:25 xxxx texts Gerry

13:14:17 xxxx texts Gerry

13:14:53 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:15:37 xxxx calls Rachael for 167 seconds

13:23:20 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:26:07 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:34:12 Russell texts Jane

13:36:56 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:39:36 xxxx texts Rachael

13:42:46 xxxx calls Rachael for 607 seconds

13:43:36 xxxx calls Gerry for 20 seconds

13:43:57 WITHHELD NUMBER & NETWORK called Gerry for 20 seconds

13:48:28 “Junior” calls Gerry for 12 seconds

13:48:59 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:49:55 Russell calls his mum on home landline in Liverpool for 213 seconds

13:50:51 David activates the Portimao Antenna

13:51:05 xxxx texts Gerry

13:54:48 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

13:55:48 xxxx texts Gerry

14:00 Sister Philomena calls Gerry

14:00:20 xxxx texts Gerry

14:01:34 xxxx calls Gerry for 12 seconds

14:02:53 David activates the Portimao Antenna

14:03:33 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

14:05:36 Matthew activates the Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

14:05:23 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

14:09:45 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

14:11:55 xxxx calls Gerry for 38 seconds

14:13:23 xxxx texts Gerry

14:21:41 David activates the Portimao Antenna

14:24:57 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

14:25:55 Gerry texts xxxx (Probably Brian Healy)

14:26:17 Gerry (in Portimao) calls xxxx for 00:04:58

14:30:16 xxxx texts Gerry

14:35:24 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

14:36:55 Dianne Webster calls David Payne for 30 seconds

14:37:24 Brother John calls Gerry for 00:01:24

14:40:58 Russell calls Jane for 14 seconds

14:56:34 Gerry calls xxx for 00:03:01

14:56:35 xxxx texts Gerry

14:59:40 Matthew activates the Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

15:02:29 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

15:11:03 xxxx texts Gerry

15:13:00 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

15:25:49 xxxx calls Gerry for 51 seconds

15:28:50 Dianne Webster calls David Payne for 5 seconds

15:34:51 xxxx texts Gerry

15:36:24 Mum texts Rachael

15:37:01 Gerry texts xxxx

15:44:47 Simon Aldridge calls Dianne Webster for 107 seconds

15:51:13 Simon Aldridge calls Dianne Webster for 139 seconds

15:59:18 Matthew activates the Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna (Probable call/text to Rachael, see ping below)

15:59:45 Rachael activates the Luz Antenna (Optimus)

[pathfinder73]

4th Ctd

16:19:05 xxxx texts Gerry

16:21:12 David activates the Portimao Antenna

16:21:13 David Payne calls Russell O’Brien for 91 seconds

16:24:54 Rachael texts her Mum

16:25:08 David activates the Portimao Antenna

16:25:36 Junior calls Gerry for 00:03:14

16:26:57 Mum texts Rachael

16:28:15 David activates the Portimao Antenna

16:32:32 Dianne Webster calls home for 59 seconds

16:33:05 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna

16:35:07 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

16:36:47 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

16:58:36 Jane activates the Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

16:58:37 xxxx texts Gerry

16:58:41 Jane texts Russell

16:59:28 Russell calls Jane for 112 seconds

17:03:32 xxxx texts Gerry

17:26:44 Gerry calls Anne & Michael Wright’s Landline for 00:01:31

17:29:23 Gerry calls xxxx

17:31:33 xxxx texts Gerry

17:36:09 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:01:11

18:08:26 Russell calls Jane for 30 seconds

18:11:51 David Payne accesses GPRS on his phone/calls or texts service provider?

18:13:17 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

18:13:24 Lisa Lacarnie, family friend, texts David Payne

18:13:36 33095 texts David Payne

18:14:42 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

18:15:23 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

18:16:01 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

18:17:02 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

18:19:29 Kate activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

18:20:54 Simon Aldridge texts David Payne

18:21:58 xxxx texts Gerry

18:24:39 xxxx texts Gerry

18:30:01 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

18:30:32 His Mum calls David Payne for 23 seconds

18:34:41 Simon Aldridge texts David Payne

18:41:52 xxxx calls David Payne for 78 seconds

19:04:35 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

19:06:02 Russell activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

19:07:33 Russell activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna

19:07:47 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

19:17:36 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

19:33:42 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

19:43:25 Russell activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna

20:19:28 Dianne Webster calls Jane Tanner for 91 seconds

20:27:57 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

20:29:52 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

20:56:55 xxxx calls David Payne 383 seconds

21:11:22 xxxx texts Gerry

21:11:58 Gerry calls Message centre for 00:04:08

21:15:21 xxxx texts Gerry

21:15:29 xxxx texts Gerry

21:16:17 xxxx texts Gerry

21:16:34 xxxx texts Gerry

21:16:40 xxxx texts Gerry

21:18:06 xxxx texts Gerry

21:25:01 xxxx texts Gerry

21:26:40 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

21:36:14 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

21:40:50 xxxx texts Gerry

21:42:08 xxxx texts Gerry

21:49:20 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

21:50:41 Dianne Webster calls David Payne for 256 seconds

21:53:05 Jane activates the Luz Centro 2 Antenna

21:54:51 Gerry calls xxxx for 00:12:48

22:01:55 xxxx texts Gerry

22:02:08 xxxx (Probably one of the two Portuguese Samsung mobiles given to David Payne) texts David Payne

22:08:05 Jane Tanner calls her mum for 1304 seconds

22:08:43 Gerry texts N/A

22:08:54 xxxx (Claimed Samsung) texts David Payne

22:09:44 Gerry calls xxxx for 46 seconds

22:12:02 Matthew calls xxxx for 258 seconds

22:13:18 Gerry calls 351000915555 for 16 seconds

22:17:23 Gerry calls 351000915555 for 5 seconds

22:17:46 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:03:56

22:18:19 David Payne calls xxxx for 24 seconds

22:20:20 David Payne calls his Mum for 473 seconds

22:23:00 Lisa [friend from Exeter] texts Jane Tanner

22:28:47 David Payne calls xxxx for 493 seconds

22:31:28 Gerry calls xxxx (Portuguese mobile, TMN network) for 56 seconds

22:34:50 xxxx (Probably Claimed Samsung) calls Jane Tanner for 2 seconds

22:36:25 Claimed Samsung calls Rachael Oldfield for 00:02:31

22:37:39 David Payne calls Dianne Webster for 6 seconds

22:38:27 David Payne calls Simon Aldridge for 873 seconds

22:38:54 Jane Tanner texts her friend Lisa from Exeter

22:40:40 xxxx (Portuguese mobile) calls Gerry for 23 seconds

22:43:55 xxxx texts Gerry
4th.

22:46:28 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

22:46:31 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

22:50:57 Rachael activates the Portimao Antenna

22:53:15 Gerry calls xxxx (Portuguese Mobile, TMN Network) for 00:04:51

22:59:58 xxxx (Portuguese Mobile, TMN Network) calls Gerry for 00:07:38

23:08:16 Gerry calls the British Consulate in Lisbon for 5 seconds

23:09:01 Gerry calls the British Consulate in Lisbon for 22 seconds

23:09:48 Gerry calls xxxx (Portuguese Mobile, on Optimus Network) for 00:05:48

23:13:41 David Payne calls the Metropolitan Police Child Abuse Investigation Team for 100 seconds

23:17:52 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna

23:18:29 xxxx texts Kate

23:18:39 xxxx texts Kate

23:19:01 xxxx texts Kate

23:19:32 Amanda Mobile texts Kate

23:20:54 Kate activates Luz 2 Antenna

23:21:22 Kate activates Luz 2 Antenna

23:21:33 Kate texts Amanda Mobile

23:21:07 Jane Tanner texts Claimed Samsung

23:21:22 xxxx texts Kate

23:21:57 901 (Message Centre?) texts Kate

23:22:50 Kate texts xxxx

23:25:20 xxxx (message centre?) texts Kate

23:26:38 Kate texts 23354

23:29:34 xxxx (Portuguese Mobile, Optimus Network) calls Gerry for 00:02:43

23:32:23 Kate McCann calls David Payne for 21 seconds

23:33:29 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna

23:36:28 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna

23:37:01 Kate calls xxxx for 41 seconds

23:37:02 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna

23:40:54 xxxx texts Gerry

23:57:47 Amanda Mobile texts Kate

1485    “Who lent you these phones that Simon ALDRIDGE had organised for you?”
Reply    “Err I mean, Si, Simon’s brother err is a gentleman called Nick and Nick’s wife Nicky had got friends out in the Algarve and they were just you know basic people who were just willing to help us in whatever capacity it was, whether we wanted a room for the night or anything and they asked is there anything we can do, err whether they could do, and err and that was, you know, that was one thing we said well actually you know err Kate’s phone’s nearly ran out, we’re sat, we don’t know how long we’re gonna be at the Police Station you know could, you know, can they, you know is there any way of getting phones to us just so that you know, we can, for communication. Err and err so that was, that was a capacity really err of people.”

What about phone chargers?

[pathfinder73]

PF, I think you are getting a bee in your bonnet over nothing ... the explanation for the phones is there for all to see ... and there is no doubt that all the phone pings emanating from these and any other phones held by the group would be thoroughly checked out.

DP didn't know the numbers in April 2008 so how do you know this was followed up and investigated? There's no records in the files about the two samsung PAYG mobiles. They need to question the Portuguese friends of Nick & Nicky Oldridge who purchased the phones - where from? and investigate their phone records. You can't be using secret mobiles from 4 May 2007 without it being investigated.

[DCI]

Seems Simon Green is David Paynes brother in law now, according to phone list.

08:09:56 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, calls David Payne for 71 seconds

He rings a few times, perhaps sorting those pesky Samsung phones out for DP.

[pathfinder73]

078    “Do you know a Dave MIDDLETON?”
 Reply    “Dave MIDDLETON? (Shakes head).”
 
4078    “No?”
 Reply    “No.”
 
4078    “Do you know anybody in Doncaster?”
 Reply    “Err no, but Louise, my middle daughter, she’s married to err Simon ALDRIDGE who, his company err Doncaster, I’m sure it’s around Doncaster where his business is.”
 
4078    “What’s his line of work?”
 Reply    “They’re err it’s a roof tiler.”
 
4078    “That’s the one yeah.”
 Reply    “Yeah.”
 
4078    “Yeah. Sandtoft Roof Tiles.”
 Reply    “Sandtoft yeah that’s it.”
 
4078    “The person that’s bought the phone or registered the phone must be called Dave MIDDLETON. Okay, so that’s your son in-law then?”
 Reply    “Yeah. Well not the Dave MIDDLETON, he’s not.”
 
4078    “No.”
 Reply    “No. My son in-law’s…”
 
4078    “Simon ALDRIDGE.”
 Reply    “Yeah.”

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

David Middleton
Information Technology Manager
SANDTOFT HOLDINGS LIMITED
Belton Road Sandtoft
Doncaster, DN8 5SY
Tel: +44.***.787.***
www.sandtoft.co.uk

Following a number of changes the company was passed to the next generation, being managed by Simon, Nick and Kate Oldridge at the time of the partial sale to Wienerberger in 2008.

http://www.wienerberger.co.uk/sustainability-at-sandtoft-works.html

Number three in the UK roof tile market, after big businesses Redland and Marley, Sandtoft supplies more than 10 per cent of all roof tiles used in Britain. It generally makes annual pre-tax profits of between £500,000 and £1m, on annual turnover now at £40m. (December 21, 2005)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b23abd92-71c5-11da-836e-0000779e2340.html#axzz3SDb4NomF

[pathfinder73]

Seems Simon Green is David Paynes brother in law now, according to phone list.

08:09:56 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, calls David Payne for 71 seconds

He rings a few times, perhaps sorting those pesky Samsung phones out for DP.

454 Simon Green

[DCI]

4078    “Simon ALDRIDGE.”
 Reply    “Yeah.”

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

David Middleton
Information Technology Manager
SANDTOFT HOLDINGS LIMITED
Belton Road Sandtoft
Doncaster, DN8 5SY
Tel: +44.***.787.***
www.sandtoft.co.uk

Following a number of changes the company was passed to the next generation, being managed by Simon, Nick and Kate Oldridge at the time of the partial sale to Wienerberger in 2008.

http://www.wienerberger.co.uk/sustainability-at-sandtoft-works.html

Number three in the UK roof tile market, after big businesses Redland and Marley, Sandtoft supplies more than 10 per cent of all roof tiles used in Britain. It generally makes annual pre-tax profits of between £500,000 and £1m, on annual turnover now at £40m. (December 21, 2005)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b23abd92-71c5-11da-836e-0000779e2340.html#axzz3SDb4NomF

Simon, Nick and Kate Oldridge, not Aldridge???
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