Strange Witness Statements

[pathfinder73]

Less than a fortnight after the event and got her future mapped out.

Everything seems to be changing at the start of June - one month after her disappearance  &%+((£


GM Blog - 22 Aug 07

Kate is keen to get in touch with a very nice mum, who she spoke with at the toddler pool in the Ocean Club on Sunday 3rd June. She is sure you will remember the conversation and Kate would be grateful if you could get in touch at with her at campaign@findmadeleine.com

"The girl's parents had the key of the church and in the same church a funeral a month after the disappearance was performed. According to some reports, the child could well go to the feet of this woman who was going to be cremated," further explained Gonçalo Amaral.

What does he know?

A few days after Madeleine McCann disappeared from the holiday village Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, Algarve, May 3, 2007 (seven years ago), a witness appeared: a British tourist who said he saw the girl's father to walk the beach at night. The revelation was made by former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral, who adds that the data of the witness disappeared. "We tried to recover that testimony and documents that were in the British sphere and simply disappeared. Even today we do not know who this person is and where it is," said Gonçalo Amaral.

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[G-Unit]

IIRC it was proved from the phone records that Gerry was elsewhere at the time.

Gerald McCanns phone was in Praia da Luz. However, he had two phones. David Payne had two new PAYG phones delivered on 4th May, one of which he gave to the McCanns.

[Brietta]

Gerald McCanns phone was in Praia da Luz. However, he had two phones. David Payne had two new PAYG phones delivered on 4th May, one of which he gave to the McCanns.

Yes, we know ... we've discussed these phones at some length.  Very mysterious they are ... not.

[misty]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

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*snip*
1485
 'When did you see Kate and Gerald on Thursday, so when was the first time that you saw Kate and Gerry on the Thursday''
 
 
 Reply
 'It would have been sort of late morning when we'd got back from our sailing and we got changed, got some warm things on and we were just sat on the sun loungers by the pool, erm, just having a drink and Kate and Gerry appeared, we offered them a drink, I think they turned down, they either, they'd just had a tennis lesson or had a knock, erm. In fact I think, was it Gerry had had a lesson then and was going into length degree to Kate about his style of tennis and I was joking that Kate was actually listening to this and finding it incredibly boring cos it's the sort of thing, you know, they, as a couple, they did have amazing sort of patience with each other than (inaudible), I wouldn't have that with David talking to me (inaudible), so there was that joke, so yeah I think it was Gerry just had a tennis lesson and Kate might have been having a knock up, but they were in their tennis gear'.

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/14/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

Bridget O'Donnell 14/12/2007
Jes and Gerry were playing on the next court. Afterwards, we sat by the pool and Gerry and Kate talked enthusiastically to the tennis coach about the following day's tournament. We watched them idly - they had a lot of time for people, they listened. Then Gerry stood up and began showing Kate his new tennis stroke. She looked at him and smiled. "You wouldn't be interested if I talked about my tennis like that," Jes said to me. We watched them some more. Kate was calm, still, quietly beautiful; Gerry was confident, proud, silly, strong. She watched his boyish demonstration with great seriousness and patience. That was the last time I saw them that day. Jes saw Gerry that night.
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I find it strange that 2 separate couples should converse in such a similar fashion about Kate & Gerry, yet neither mentions the other couple's presence at the pool in their rogatories several months later.

[ShiningInLuz]

SY were checking the pipes.

Yes.  SY were checking the pipes.

That's not a sewer, it is a freshwater rain drain.

We don't have open sewers running through Luz.

(Apologies to Angelo.  After reading on I see he was much quicker off the mark than I was.)

[Mr Gray]

Gerald McCanns phone was in Praia da Luz. However, he had two phones. David Payne had two new PAYG phones delivered on 4th May, one of which he gave to the McCanns.

you have a fixation with the phones. What is unusual about having a local phone with  a local sim card to keep in touch with each other. You certainly would not want to use your UK based phone for this.. the roaming charges at at that time were extortionate

[G-Unit]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

!0/4/2008

*snip*
1485
 'When did you see Kate and Gerald on Thursday, so when was the first time that you saw Kate and Gerry on the Thursday''
 
 
 Reply
 'It would have been sort of late morning when we'd got back from our sailing and we got changed, got some warm things on and we were just sat on the sun loungers by the pool, erm, just having a drink and Kate and Gerry appeared, we offered them a drink, I think they turned down, they either, they'd just had a tennis lesson or had a knock, erm. In fact I think, was it Gerry had had a lesson then and was going into length degree to Kate about his style of tennis and I was joking that Kate was actually listening to this and finding it incredibly boring cos it's the sort of thing, you know, they, as a couple, they did have amazing sort of patience with each other than (inaudible), I wouldn't have that with David talking to me (inaudible), so there was that joke, so yeah I think it was Gerry just had a tennis lesson and Kate might have been having a knock up, but they were in their tennis gear'.

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/14/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

Bridget O'Donnell 14/12/2007
Jes and Gerry were playing on the next court. Afterwards, we sat by the pool and Gerry and Kate talked enthusiastically to the tennis coach about the following day's tournament. We watched them idly - they had a lot of time for people, they listened. Then Gerry stood up and began showing Kate his new tennis stroke. She looked at him and smiled. "You wouldn't be interested if I talked about my tennis like that," Jes said to me. We watched them some more. Kate was calm, still, quietly beautiful; Gerry was confident, proud, silly, strong. She watched his boyish demonstration with great seriousness and patience. That was the last time I saw them that day. Jes saw Gerry that night.
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I find it strange that 2 separate couples should converse in such a similar fashion about Kate & Gerry, yet neither mentions the other couple's presence at the pool in their rogatories several months later.

Rachael was there too;

and then Matt came up from the beach and we had our tennis lesson at eleven with Dan, whos you know, one of the coaches there, erm and then yeah that, well that went 'til twelve and then basically we got Grace from the creche then,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

[G-Unit]

Yes, we know ... we've discussed these phones at some length.  Very mysterious they are ... not.

That's as maybe, but Gerald McCann can't be eliminated by his phone being in PdL because he had another one.

[Mr Gray]

That's as maybe, but Gerald McCann can't be eliminated by his phone being in PdL because he had another one.

The McCanns have not been eliminated on one piece of evidence...it's everything taken together

[stephen25000]

The McCanns have not been eliminated on one piece of evidence...it's everything taken together

What evidence is that dave ?

The crime has yet to be determined.

[Miss Taken Identity]

What evidence is that dave ?

The crime has yet to be determined.

hahahaha  don't exepect a reply soon!

Evidence is: that Maddie went on holiday with her family and dissapeared. Other than that, nothing has been found to charge anyone regarding her where abouts.

[Mr Gray]

What evidence is that dave ?

The crime has yet to be determined.

the evidence which SY used to declare the McCanns not suspects

[stephen25000]

the evidence which SY used to declare the McCanns not suspects

Is that because of their belief in abduction dave ?

Since they have singularly failed to find any evidence.

The crime is unknown.

The mccanns played a key part in this case.

They were the last ones to see her alive.

[Benice]

Is that because of their belief in abduction dave ?

Since they have singularly failed to find any evidence.

The crime is unknown.

The mccanns played a key part in this case.

They were the last ones to see her alive.

Evidence please that the McCanns were the last ones to see her alive?

[stephen25000]

Evidence please that the McCanns were the last ones to see her alive?

They were the last people who claimed to have done so.

Until proven otherwise, THAT REMAINS THE CASE.

Unless of course you believe in fantasies,