Strange Witness Statements

[Lace]

10:30 to 11:45. 75 minutes.

She never told the McCann's that she had heard their daughter crying previously on 1st May because she thought it would just increase their suffering.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

Tuesday 1st May 2007

Kate McCanns mobile was next activated six times, in rapid fire, between 22.16 and 22.27, after she had returned to Apartment 5A after dinner. The antenna traffic proves that these calls were not made to any of the 'Tapas 9'.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm

Well the phone records prove Kate McCann was in the apartment at almost half past ten then doesn't it?

I can believe that Amelie and Sean were grizzling alternatively for that length of time,  but not that Madeleine cried all that time.

So what if the calls weren't made to the Tapas 9,  why would she call them she had just had dinner with them.  Kate McCann could have been calling her parents or her friends back home,   and as it was late they were short calls.

[faithlilly]

When did Gerry claim that 'confusion is good'?  Cite please.

 Gerry McCann, (24 August 2007, Scottish TV interview): ““And, in fact, one of the slight positives in all of this is that there is so much rumour about what did and didn't happen, it's actually very difficult, if you're reading the newspapers, watching TV, to know what is true and what's not”.

[pathfinder73]

Well the phone records prove Kate McCann was in the apartment at almost half past ten then doesn't it?

I can believe that Amelie and Sean were grizzling alternatively for that length of time,  but not that Madeleine cried all that time.

So what if the calls weren't made to the Tapas 9,  why would she call them she had just had dinner with them.  Kate McCann could have been calling her parents or her friends back home,   and as it was late they were short calls.

Tuesday 1st May 2007 is the only night (except, of course, for Thursday 3rd May 2007) that either of the McCanns or any of their friends made calls after dinner.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm

[Lace]

Tuesday 1st May 2007 is the only night (except, of course, for Thursday 3rd May 2007) that either of the McCanns or any of their friends made calls after dinner.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm

I'm sorry I don't see why that is significant.

Kate McCann made calls on the Tuesday night.    Could be these calls were to her parents or other members of the family.     It was about half way through the holiday,  could have been quick calls to say, holiday lovely etc.

[pathfinder73]

I'm sorry I don't see why that is significant.

Kate McCann made calls on the Tuesday night.    Could be these calls were to her parents or other members of the family.     It was about half way through the holiday,  could have been quick calls to say, holiday lovely etc.

It's relevant because if she was making calls in the apartment she most probably woke Madeleine up. Then just after Pamela Fenn hears crying. I connect evidence.

[Lace]

It's relevant because if she was making calls in the apartment she most probably woke Madeleine up. Then just after Pamela Fenn hears crying. I connect evidence.

If Kate McCann had woken any of the children by making the calls then she would have heard that child.

[pathfinder73]

If Kate McCann had woken any of the children by making the calls then she would have heard that child.

Not if she left the apartment straight after her last call at 10:27. Crying reported from 10:30.

[Lace]

Not if she left the apartment straight after her last call at 10:27. Crying reported from 10:30.

Don't you find it strange that Mrs. Fenn doesn't mention the fact that Kate McCann came to the apartment and left at 10.27  then the crying started?

Mrs. Fenn said she heard them come home,   yet she doesn't say she heard Kate McCann leave at 10.27.

Why you can't imagine Mrs. Fenn being mistaken about what time the crying started I really don't know,  she wasn't interviewed until three months afterwards.

[sadie]

Tuesday 1st May 2007 is the only night (except, of course, for Thursday 3rd May 2007) that either of the McCanns or any of their friends made calls after dinner.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm

Do we know if the calls were sent or received, or both?

[misty]

10:30 to 11:45. 75 minutes.

She never told the McCann's that she had heard their daughter crying previously on 1st May because she thought it would just increase their suffering.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

Tuesday 1st May 2007

Kate McCanns mobile was next activated six times, in rapid fire, between 22.16 and 22.27, after she had returned to Apartment 5A after dinner. The antenna traffic proves that these calls were not made to any of the 'Tapas 9'.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm

That is not from the official PJ files. It is part of a report written by Paulo Reis.

[pathfinder73]

Don't you find it strange that Mrs. Fenn doesn't mention the fact that Kate McCann came to the apartment and left at 10.27  then the crying started?

Mrs. Fenn said she heard them come home,   yet she doesn't say she heard Kate McCann leave at 10.27.

Why you can't imagine Mrs. Fenn being mistaken about what time the crying started I really don't know,  she wasn't interviewed until three months afterwards.

No I don't find it strange. She didn't hear them entering the apartment on 3 May to do their checks so why would she notice that if she is watching tv. That late time she may have heard them because of extra noise being drunk or tv switched off. If you are out drinking from 8:30 then you are going to be pretty drunk by midnight.

[pathfinder73]

That is not from the official PJ files. It is part of a report written by Paulo Reis.

Kate Healy TUE 1 May from PJ Files - last call 22:27. Crying reported from 22:30

[Lace]

No I don't find it strange. She didn't hear them entering the apartment on 3 May to do their checks so why would she notice that if she is watching tv. That late time she may have heard them because of extra noise being drunk or tv switched off. If you are out drinking from 8:30 then you are going to be pretty drunk by midnight.

No,  I'm sorry if Mrs. Fenn could hear a child start to grizzle at about half past ten,  3 MINUTES after Kate McCann left the apartment,  then she would have heard Kate McCann leave the apartment.

You say 'if you are out drinking from 8:30 then you are going to be pretty drunk by midnight'   that depends on if you know how much Kate McCann drunk that night,   who says she drank a lot?    Not any waiter or any other witness to that night said that the McCann's were drunk.

[Matthew Wyse]

No,  I'm sorry if Mrs. Fenn could hear a child start to grizzle at about half past ten,  3 MINUTES after Kate McCann left the apartment,  then she would have heard Kate McCann leave the apartment.

You say 'if you are out drinking from 8:30 then you are going to be pretty drunk by midnight'   that depends on if you know how much Kate McCann drunk that night,   who says she drank a lot?    Not any waiter or any other witness to that night said that the McCann's were drunk.

Had they been intoxicated the police would have noted it in their statements.  However, the consumption of any alcohol by both parents is inappropriate with looking after three young babes in my opinion.  Could the consumption of alcohol been the real reason for the wailing mullah incidents?

[Lace]

Had they been intoxicated the police would have noted it in their statements.  However, the consumption of any alcohol by both parents is inappropriate with looking after three young babes in my opinion.  Could the consumption of alcohol been the real reason for the wailing mullah incidents?

So,  you have never had a glass of wine or two when the children have been put to bed?    Or had a  B-B-Q and had a drink with friends in the garden?