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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1185 on: April 26, 2015, 03:20:41 PM »
I'm confused. What is "what"? And where is "there"?

Sorry, Carana. What I meant was that the PJ Files were issued to various people, including the McCanns. I can't see why their version would be different. Therefore if something is in their PJ Files it should also be in the ones on the internet.
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1186 on: April 26, 2015, 09:16:48 PM »
Sorry, Carana. What I meant was that the PJ Files were issued to various people, including the McCanns. I can't see why their version would be different. Therefore if something is in their PJ Files it should also be in the ones on the internet.

Under Portuguese law it is illegal to directly reproduce any content contained in the DVDs released to eligible parties. Therefore, there is no way of proving what Levy has uploaded is incomplete or inaccurate without breaking the law.

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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1187 on: April 27, 2015, 08:30:57 AM »
Why would the barman in the Millenium Restaurant be talking about Tapas Restaurant bookings I wonder?

When asked he says that on a date he cannot remember, the group, just the adults because the children were dining with the nannies, had been too late in making their dinner reservation at the Tapas, and an exception was made, authorised by his boss Steve, as the Tapas only provides for 20 dinners for half board clients as was the case.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm

But his boss Steve says;

He says that on the day of the girl's disappearance he worked at the resort until 20.00. He said that he was absent from Portugal between Sunday 29th April and the 2nd May 2007.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEVEN_COVA.htm

Maybe the barman was mistaken, unless someone phoned his boss in another country. If he had intervened in the bookings on 3rd May they both should have remembered it.





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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1188 on: April 27, 2015, 03:28:29 PM »
Why would the barman in the Millenium Restaurant be talking about Tapas Restaurant bookings I wonder?

When asked he says that on a date he cannot remember, the group, just the adults because the children were dining with the nannies, had been too late in making their dinner reservation at the Tapas, and an exception was made, authorised by his boss Steve, as the Tapas only provides for 20 dinners for half board clients as was the case.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm

But his boss Steve says;

He says that on the day of the girl's disappearance he worked at the resort until 20.00. He said that he was absent from Portugal between Sunday 29th April and the 2nd May 2007.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEVEN_COVA.htm

Maybe the barman was mistaken, unless someone phoned his boss in another country. If he had intervened in the bookings on 3rd May they both should have remembered it.

Because he was the catering manager!

The Tapas bar did not serve dinner, on Saturdays.

1578 'Okay and then in the evenings''
 Reply 'And then the evening yes, so on that, cos the Sunday night had worked well with us sort of eating dinner as adults and you know just going back to check on the children, erm that, but at the Tapas, they said they, you could only book in the morning, you couldn't kind of block book or anything like that, you had to kind of call them at you know, eight or nine o'clock and say that you wanted a table for that night, erm and because we were a big group of nine, erm I begged and pleaded with them to let us book for the whole week, a table at eight thirty every night, erm'.

00.36.51 1578 'When did you do that''

 Reply 'Because otherwise'.

1578 'No sorry, when''

Reply 'Oh when, that was on the Monday morning, erm because you know otherwise we, it would have just been really difficult to, well have a, have dinner in peace and erm, er you know we couldn't really have gone anywhere else cos oh yeah, we'd have had, I'd have to take the children or put them, there was a like a creche you could put them in, in the evening when you went to dinner but you know we were all kind of, you know the kids generally go to bed at seven thirty and they're tired out, they need to sleep but if they went somewhere else, they wouldn't have slept and erm, and you would have been up late, so we didn't want to do that and you know the Tapas was there and you know the apartment, you know we could see the apartments just there, you know it was only sort of you know, birds eye view was only sort of you know, thirty metres or something like that, so erm and you know, and we kept going and checking, so that seemed like kind of a good option'.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1189 on: April 27, 2015, 03:42:24 PM »
Because he was the catering manager!

The Tapas bar did not serve dinner, on Saturdays.

1578 'Okay and then in the evenings''
 Reply 'And then the evening yes, so on that, cos the Sunday night had worked well with us sort of eating dinner as adults and you know just going back to check on the children, erm that, but at the Tapas, they said they, you could only book in the morning, you couldn't kind of block book or anything like that, you had to kind of call them at you know, eight or nine o'clock and say that you wanted a table for that night, erm and because we were a big group of nine, erm I begged and pleaded with them to let us book for the whole week, a table at eight thirty every night, erm'.

00.36.51 1578 'When did you do that''

 Reply 'Because otherwise'.

1578 'No sorry, when''

Reply 'Oh when, that was on the Monday morning, erm because you know otherwise we, it would have just been really difficult to, well have a, have dinner in peace and erm, er you know we couldn't really have gone anywhere else cos oh yeah, we'd have had, I'd have to take the children or put them, there was a like a creche you could put them in, in the evening when you went to dinner but you know we were all kind of, you know the kids generally go to bed at seven thirty and they're tired out, they need to sleep but if they went somewhere else, they wouldn't have slept and erm, and you would have been up late, so we didn't want to do that and you know the Tapas was there and you know the apartment, you know we could see the apartments just there, you know it was only sort of you know, birds eye view was only sort of you know, thirty metres or something like that, so erm and you know, and we kept going and checking, so that seemed like kind of a good option'.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Barros gave his occupation as 'barman' to the PJ when he made his statement. Nelson says he was the 'head waiter'. either way his boss 'Steve' didn't authorise the group to book late into the Tapas restaurant because he wasn't in Portugal between 30th April and 2nd May.
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1190 on: April 27, 2015, 04:23:15 PM »
Barros gave his occupation as 'barman' to the PJ when he made his statement. Nelson says he was the 'head waiter'. either way his boss 'Steve' didn't authorise the group to book late into the Tapas restaurant because he wasn't in Portugal between 30th April and 2nd May.

And you know this for definate, so how come the booking time was allocated, for every night afterwards. What time did Steve leave Portugal, on the Monday morning? I presume he had a phone.
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1191 on: April 27, 2015, 04:32:51 PM »
Why would the barman in the Millenium Restaurant be talking about Tapas Restaurant bookings I wonder?

When asked he says that on a date he cannot remember, the group, just the adults because the children were dining with the nannies, had been too late in making their dinner reservation at the Tapas, and an exception was made, authorised by his boss Steve, as the Tapas only provides for 20 dinners for half board clients as was the case.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm

But his boss Steve says;

He says that on the day of the girl's disappearance he worked at the resort until 20.00. He said that he was absent from Portugal between Sunday 29th April and the 2nd May 2007.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEVEN_COVA.htm

Maybe the barman was mistaken, unless someone phoned his boss in another country. If he had intervened in the bookings on 3rd May they both should have remembered it.

Steve was back on 3 May. His authorisation is mentioned in several places on the booking sheet for that evening.


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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1192 on: April 27, 2015, 05:14:46 PM »
Sorry, Carana. What I meant was that the PJ Files were issued to various people, including the McCanns. I can't see why their version would be different. Therefore if something is in their PJ Files it should also be in the ones on the internet.
 
Kate and Gerry had the files before the Media.

Herculean proportions facing me: combing through the 5,000 or so pages of documentation contained in the case files that had been presented to the prosecutor and received by our lawyers on 31 July.

Released to the Media, 4th August.

I'm sure if what Kate said, was not in the files, someone would have been screaming from the roof tops.
I can assure you not all files on the net, match the DVD's contents.
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1193 on: April 27, 2015, 05:25:05 PM »
 
Kate and Gerry had the files before the Media.

Herculean proportions facing me: combing through the 5,000 or so pages of documentation contained in the case files that had been presented to the prosecutor and received by our lawyers on 31 July.

Released to the Media, 4th August.

I'm sure if what Kate said, was not in the files, someone would have been screaming from the roof tops.
I can assure you not all files on the net, match the DVD's contents.

How do you know? Have you got the boxed set?
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1194 on: April 27, 2015, 05:29:41 PM »
How do you know? Have you got the boxed set?

Cos I have them. No, there's only two. %#&%%5
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1195 on: April 27, 2015, 07:30:24 PM »
Steve was back on 3 May. His authorisation is mentioned in several places on the booking sheet for that evening.

Correct. Next to the names of Bullen and Cox. Cox was the partner of Balu, I think, and they decided on a take-away in the end which they had with the Berrys. Perhaps that was why Steve authorised it.
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1196 on: April 27, 2015, 07:52:49 PM »
 
Kate and Gerry had the files before the Media.

Herculean proportions facing me: combing through the 5,000 or so pages of documentation contained in the case files that had been presented to the prosecutor and received by our lawyers on 31 July.

Released to the Media, 4th August.

I'm sure if what Kate said, was not in the files, someone would have been screaming from the roof tops.
I can assure you not all files on the net, match the DVD's contents.

What does your last sentence mean?

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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1197 on: April 27, 2015, 09:05:04 PM »
Cos I have them. No, there's only two. %#&%%5

If you have the original complete files I would be interested to know how many pages they have?
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1198 on: April 27, 2015, 09:08:46 PM »
If you have the original complete files I would be interested to know how many pages they have?

oooh, me too

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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #1199 on: April 28, 2015, 11:55:15 AM »
 
Kate and Gerry had the files before the Media.

Herculean proportions facing me: combing through the 5,000 or so pages of documentation contained in the case files that had been presented to the prosecutor and received by our lawyers on 31 July.

Released to the Media, 4th August.

I'm sure if what Kate said, was not in the files, someone would have been screaming from the roof tops.
I can assure you not all files on the net, match the DVD's contents.

Exactly who would be 'screaming from the rooftops' ?
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