Strange Witness Statements

[Benice]

Maybe Gerry changed his mind and, thought it would be nice for the kids to go the play area after all, or Gerry and Kate got muddled in these statements(not difficult to understand considering, how stressed they must have been).
There is no way of telling, why the statements are as we see them.

I think knowing that DP was going to get his tennis gear - he simply asked him to call in on Kate to see if she needed any help with the  kids or whether maybe she had changed her mind about taking them out.   Didn't DP report back to Gerry that she was OK and tried to persuade him to stay longer at the courts?

Considering the enormity of what happened later that night - I'm surprised they could recall such an insignificant event -  (in comparison)  - with any accuracy at all.

[G-Unit]

No that's not what I'm saying.   I'm saying that maybe some members of this forum overestimate the effect of a woman wrapped in a towel, particularly on a holiday in which David quote possibly saw a lot more of Kate's body by the pool when it wasn't wrapped in a towel.

are you really a man I wonder? At the very least most men would have noticed and remembered in my opinion. Anyway; the freezing cold pool which no-one went into? During a week when Jane Tanner went running in joggers because it was so cold?

[Benice]

are you really a man I wonder? At the very least most men would have noticed and remembered in my opinion. Anyway; the freezing cold pool which no-one went into? During a week when Jane Tanner went running in joggers because it was so cold?

IIRC Kate went into the pool on the first day with Madeleine. 

[G-Unit]

IIRC Kate went into the pool on the first day with Madeleine.

Allegedly.

[Benice]

Allegedly.

Why would she lie about something like that?

[pathfinder73]

I think knowing that DP was going to get his tennis gear - he simply asked him to call in on Kate to see if she needed any help with the  kids or whether maybe she had changed her mind about taking them out.   Didn't DP report back to Gerry that she was OK and tried to persuade him to stay longer at the courts?

Considering the enormity of what happened later that night - I'm surprised they could recall such an insignificant event -  (in comparison)  - with any accuracy at all.

It's not insignificant when it was the last time somebody from outside of the family saw Madeleine. Trying to get Gerry to stay on and play tennis or it could be for another reason because Gerry left straight away 

During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DP next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, to which [entreaty] he did not accede as he had already been plying for about an hour and had to go back to to his wife. Nevertheless, RUSSELL, DAVID and MATHEW stayed to play.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

[mercury]

I think knowing that DP was going to get his tennis gear - he simply asked him to call in on Kate to see if she needed any help with the  kids or whether maybe she had changed her mind about taking them out.   Didn't DP report back to Gerry that she was OK and tried to persuade him to stay longer at the courts?

Considering the enormity of what happened later that night - I'm surprised they could recall such an insignificant event -  (in comparison)  - with any accuracy at all.

Well you would think of a Mitchellesque" innocent reason for anything and everything, it's what you do...as for recall, when something tragic happens, your memory is enhanced not reduced, normally.....

[Benice]

It's not insignificant when it was the last time somebody from outside of the family saw Madeleine. Trying to get Gerry to stay on and play tennis or it could be for another reason because Gerry left straight away 

During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DP next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, to which [entreaty] he did not accede as he had already been plying for about an hour and had to go back to to his wife. Nevertheless, RUSSELL, DAVID and MATHEW stayed to play.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

Only with hindsight,  but not at the actual time it happened - so they had no reason at all to remember exact conversations. 

Also people seem to think that the only words they ever spoke to oneanother  - are only those which are  recorded in the files - when it's obvious that conversations - chatting - banter etc etc would be going on all the time when they were together as a group of friends.    So even harder for them to remember exactly what was said IMO. 

 

[Eleanor]

Well you would think of a Mitchellesque" innocent reason for anything and everything, it's what you do...as for recall, when something tragic happens, your memory is enhanced not reduced, normally.....

So far this has been a pleasant discussion.  Please don't spoil it.

[mercury]

So far this has been a pleasant discussion.  Please don't spoil it.

Just stating facts, delete it if you don't like it....

[pathfinder73]

Only with hindsight,  but not at the actual time it happened - so they had no reason at all to remember exact conversations. 

Also people seem to think that the only words they ever spoke to oneanother  - are only those which are  recorded in the files - when it's obvious that conversations - chatting - banter etc etc would be going on all the time when they were together as a group of friends.    So even harder for them to remember exactly what was said IMO. 

 

He remembered definitely being in the apartment but he struggles on why he was there. He definitely remembered the white little angels but struggled to remember what Kate was wearing and it wasn't a towel. Maybe it was her favourite pants.

[Anna]

Well you would think of a Mitchellesque" innocent reason for anything and everything, it's what you do...as for recall, when something tragic happens, your memory is enhanced not reduced, normally.....

It depends what you mean by "normally"
I have had a few traumatic incidents in my life which turned me into something resembling a zombie and remembering very little.
In a vehicle crash several years back, on the motorway. I could remember very little when being questioned a day or so later. The latter episode is still coming back in bits(nightmares really)......So I guess... I'm not normal.

[mercury]

It depends what you mean by "normally"
I have had a few traumatic incidents in my life which turned me into something resembling a zombie and remembering very little.
In a vehicle crash several years back, on the motorway. I could remember very little when being questioned a day or so later. The latter episode is still coming back in bits(nightmares really)......So I guess... I'm not normal.

That's not a very good example as it's something that happened in an instant and any recall of what you were doing during the day and minutes and hours before would have borne no relevance...

[Benice]

He remembered definitely being in the apartment but he struggles on why he was there. He definitely remembered the white little angels but struggled to remember what Kate was wearing and it wasn't a towel. Maybe it was her favourite pants.

As I said - those few mins spent at 5A were virtually of no importance at all at the time - so no reason for him or anyone else to make sure they carefully committed every detail to memory.

It was only much later that it became of any significance and needed to be recalled - whilst in the meantime a tragedy of monumental proportions had taken place -  which would overshadow everything.

[pathfinder73]

As I said - those few mins spent at 5A were virtually of no importance at all at the time - so no reason for him or anyone else to make sure they carefully committed every detail to memory.

It was only much later that it became of any significance and needed to be recalled - whilst in the meantime a tragedy of monumental proportions had taken place -  which would overshadow everything.

Are you kidding? She only went missing a few hours later. I think he could remember back a few hours when he last saw her and why he was there and remember everything about that visit.