Strange Witness Statements

[ShiningInLuz]

So glad to see you back, Sadie.

Ditto.

[sadie]

Thank youi Eleanor

... And thank you Shining.



Anyone know what's happened to Anna?  I am worrying about her.

By PM if you like or better by email.

[misty]

I'm pleased to see you, too, Sadie.  %£&)**# Welcome back.

[sadie]

Cheers misty.

You have all been doing so very well against all the odds on this forum

Well done, guys

[G-Unit]

Do try and be accurate Gunit, please.

You state May 4th at the top.  To anyone reading that it would seem that the acount you give is about what happened on May 4th, the day after Madeleine vanished.

It was actually Russells Statement that was dated May 4th.  And what appears to the uniniated to have happened on May 4th actually was on May 3rd.  Very misleading. 

Could you please amend?  Thanks.



Now the body of the statement:

You say .. No mention of anyone offering to check the McCann apartment.

Still no mention of offering to check the McCann children

and

So the intention was just to listen at the shutters?


You have been going over and over this case in fine detail for months and months now, Gunit.

Surely you knew that After checking his own apartment Matt went to Russells aopartment and upon finding that Russell had a sick child and was not walking back, he exited thru the back patio door.   He then walked along the alley and up the back steps to the Mccann apartment where he let himself in via the patio door.

He went to the Mccann childrens bedroom and looked in.  He saw the twins and the bottom of Madeleines bed, but Madeleine herself was (or should have been) asleep just around the corner out of sight.  A most reasonable check by most peoples standards.


Why would Russell say any more?  He didn't actually witness Matt in the apartment.  He said what he saw and definitely knew, which was tghe correct thing to do..

And for Matt to claim that he went in * IF * he didn't would be stupid, cos the patio area was so well illuminated by the street lamp opposite and in good sight of the tapas group only about 50 metres away..

Surely you knew all this?   
Seems that you want to make something out of nothing.  I wonder why?

I have noticed that neither Russell nor Matthew mention Kate standing up to do a check and them offering to check the Mccann children. Neither of them mention the Paynes being late either - Matthew went to check after the Paynes arrived. Russell's declared intent was to merely do a listening check. Just pointing out how the stories developed over time Sadie.

[Alfred R Jones]

I have noticed that neither Russell nor Matthew mention Kate standing up to do a check and them offering to check the Mccann children. Neither of them mention the Paynes being late either - Matthew went to check after the Paynes arrived. Russell's declared intent was to merely do a listening check. Just pointing out how the stories developed over time Sadie.

What did you mean by : "Russell O'Brien: The Weakest Link" then?

[ferryman]

Yep!

Good to see you on the boards, Sadie ....

[sadie]

Thank you Ferryman

Will pop in and out

[sadie]

I have noticed that neither Russell nor Matthew mention Kate standing up to do a check and them offering to check the Mccann children. Neither of them mention the Paynes being late either - Matthew went to check after the Paynes arrived. Russell's declared intent was to merely do a listening check. Just pointing out how the stories developed over time Sadie.

What you have to understand Gunit, is that no statements will provide every single detail.  What seems important to one "witness" will not seem so to another. 

Also if every single detail were provided, then it would take as long to read as the time that the actions/events recorded took in actual real time.

It is not realistic to expect every detail, now is it?

[misty]

What you have to understand Gunit, is that no statements will provide every single detail.  What seems important to one "witness" will not seem so to another. 

Also if every single detail were provided, then it would take as long to read as the time that the actions/events recorded took in actual real time.

It is not realistic to expect every detail, now is it?

I'm just surprised none of the sceptics have queried the lack of comfort breaks recorded, bearing in mind the amount of alcohol that was allegedly consumed.

[slartibartfast]

I'm just surprised none of the sceptics have queried the lack of comfort breaks recorded, bearing in mind the amount of alcohol that was allegedly consumed.

How many comfort breaks would you expect between 8:30 ish and 10 while drinking wine?

[misty]

How many comfort breaks would you expect between 8:30 ish and 10 while drinking wine?

That would depend on how much liquid had been consumed during tennis, the period before the meal & then during the meal. Gerry needed one at 9.10.

[sadie]

I'm just surprised none of the sceptics have queried the lack of comfort breaks recorded, bearing in mind the amount of alcohol that was allegedly consumed.

How very dare they NOT mention their visits to the loo?  Does that invalidate the statements?



Come on Gunit / Slarti, please be realistic.  Never will every detail be remembered and recorded.

[slartibartfast]

How very dare they NOT mention their visits to the loo?  Does that invalidate the statements?



Come on Gunit / Slarti, please be realistic.  Never will every detail be remembered and recorded.

If their statements are as incomplete as you suggest, they are pretty unreliable.

[misty]

How very dare they NOT mention their visits to the loo?  Does that invalidate the statements?



Come on Gunit / Slarti, please be realistic.  Never will every detail be remembered and recorded.

Can you remember where the WCs were situated in the bar, Sadie? I only ask because of Rasta Man being seen in there by Jez, yet not one of the waiters/kitchen staff on duty that night who were asked by the PJ reported seeing him.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm