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stephen25000

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Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #450 on: November 11, 2013, 08:17:39 AM »
see my previous posts and you will keep going round in circles all day

 I strongly believe Leonor was the victim of a miscarriage of justice...both of them confessed...when did you last hear of a confession being used as evidence in a uk court


Can you provide proof she is innocent of the crime she is convicted of ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #451 on: November 11, 2013, 08:19:36 AM »

Can you provide proof she is innocent of the crime she is convicted of ?

I don't have to ...if it walks like aduck

stephen25000

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Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #452 on: November 11, 2013, 08:40:31 AM »
I don't have to ...if it walks like aduck

To overturn a conviction, you need evidence.

Where is it ?

Offline sadie

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #453 on: November 11, 2013, 08:46:24 AM »
Your judgement on the Cipriano case is is tempered by your adoration of all things Mccann.

If it had not been Amaral involved in the case, this case would have not got a look in.
There is NO adoration .... just a wish for Justice.

And a hatred of bullying.

Offline sadie

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #454 on: November 11, 2013, 08:53:12 AM »
BUMPED.  Thanks to Davel for finding this

In March, the Court of Appeal of Evora confirmed an earlier ruling that Leonor Cipriano had been tortured while in police custody in 2004, but that it could not identify those responsible. Leonor Cipriano had yet to receive compensation from the state. Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral and António Fernandes Nuno Cardoso, senior officials in the judicial police, had been sentenced to 18 months’ and 27 months’ imprisonment respectively, for falsely claiming Leonor Cipriano had fallen down the stairs. However, both sentences were suspended on the grounds that the officers had no previous criminal convictions.

 The above is from the amnesty int website



Leonor Cipriano had yet to receive compensation from the state.

stephen25000

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Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #455 on: November 11, 2013, 08:54:02 AM »
There is NO adoration .... just a wish for Justice.

And a hatred of bullying.

Now pray tell, just remind us all of what CIPRIANO AND HER ACCOMPLICE ARE CONVICTED OF .

Offline sadie

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #456 on: November 11, 2013, 08:55:04 AM »
To overturn a conviction, you need evidence.

Where is it ?
The evidence is that there was serious and determined Torture.

Simples.

The case was unsafe.

Offline sadie

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #457 on: November 11, 2013, 08:56:50 AM »
Now pray tell, just remind us all of what CIPRIANO AND HER ACCOMPLICE ARE CONVICTED OF .

Go back to basics, Stephen.

Think it thru

THe conviction is totally unsafe





Do you condone torture Stephen?

stephen25000

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Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #458 on: November 11, 2013, 08:58:05 AM »
The evidence is that there was serious and determined Torture.

Simples.

The case was unsafe.

It is not 'simples'.

Provide proof she is innocent of the crime of murder.

Offline Montclair

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #459 on: November 11, 2013, 08:58:19 AM »
she may well be the victim of corrupt police officers,,Montclair has said he has not known anyone win an appeal in 37 yrs

Once again, I will have to correct you. I have already written that people win appeals all the time. They see their sentences reduced or increased, sentences or rulings overturned, whatever. One example was the overturning of the book ban injuction. What I was referring to were cases of gross miscarriages of justice and I do not recall any that could compare to the ones that have occurred in the UK.


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #461 on: November 11, 2013, 08:59:10 AM »
Go back to basics, Stephen.

Think it thru

THe conviction is totally unsafe





Do you condone torture Stephen?

Do you condone child murder sadie?
I stand with Putin. Glory to Mother Putin.

Offline sadie

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #462 on: November 11, 2013, 09:02:01 AM »
Once again, I will have to correct you. I have already written that people win appeals all the time. They see their sentences reduced or increased, sentences or rulings overturned, whatever. One example was the overturning of the book ban injuction. What I was referring to were cases of gross miscarriages of justice and I do not recall any that could compare to the ones that have occurred in the UK.
We have had some undoubtedly, but that does NOT make the injustices in the Leonor Cipriano case any less obvious and wrong




Do you believe in Torture, Montclair?  Where there is a difficult to solve case, is it OK?

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #463 on: November 11, 2013, 09:05:40 AM »
  so no actual proof just that obtained by torture or threat of torture..


 or did he just walk into the police station and give them the whole story voluntarily..use your brains

Just what did he confess to doing?  I have read of three ways at least.  Did they ever make up their minds?

stephen25000

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Re: The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!
« Reply #464 on: November 11, 2013, 09:06:12 AM »
A closed Court Stephen

Why?

What of her conviction for perjury ?