Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?

[Venturi Swirl]

Don't put words into my mouth Vertigo Swirl. Who on earth would appear on Big Brother without wanting to be "famous".   It's what the whole programme is about for contestants IMO.

Famous, but not infamous, for being a racist.

“Emily also told of the guilt she is now suffering over the impact that her ejection has had on her family. “My whole family’s a mess. They don’t deserve this – any of them. My sisters are doing their A levels. Examiners have been walking them to their cars after their exams. They’re much less prepared for this stuff than me.”

She went on: “I haven’t had any sleep. The whole family is stressed. My mother smoked the other day. I haven’t seen her do that for 20-odd years. I was taken to the psychiatrist and broke down in tears constantly – pretty much non-stop for the first two days. First it was shock and devastation – second was because I’d let my family down.”
Read more at https://www.whatsontv.co.uk/big-brother/big-brother-emily-parr-speaks-216973/#0KSI4YeoCGUhiGuL.99

[Sunny]

It isn't some here.. It's her son who thought it was the final straw... And I think hes more informed than you are

No one can know what was in her mind at the time but I imagine having her entire life and character destroyed by the media onslaught would have been a considerable part of the reason she decided to end her life.

Of course you can carry on trying to make out it made no difference if you wish.

[Robittybob1]

Rob were you involved in the case when Martin Brunt doorstepped Brenda? It was huge in the media and was why I became interested in the case.

I am sure that the fact it was her estranged son's birthday and the outing together proved too much for her and I am not surprised.  Without Brunt and his and others escapade then Brenda would still be here I am sure.

Some though IMO seem to be glad as at least she isn't tweeting.

But what did her therapist think?

[Sunny]

Famous, but not infamous, for being a racist.

“Emily also told of the guilt she is now suffering over the impact that her ejection has had on her family. “My whole family’s a mess. They don’t deserve this – any of them. My sisters are doing their A levels. Examiners have been walking them to their cars after their exams. They’re much less prepared for this stuff than me.”

She went on: “I haven’t had any sleep. The whole family is stressed. My mother smoked the other day. I haven’t seen her do that for 20-odd years. I was taken to the psychiatrist and broke down in tears constantly – pretty much non-stop for the first two days. First it was shock and devastation – second was because I’d let my family down.”
Read more at https://www.whatsontv.co.uk/big-brother/big-brother-emily-parr-speaks-216973/#0KSI4YeoCGUhiGuL.99

Emily Parr courted fame. She made a mistake on national television and was ejected from the show. I don't know the details by the way as I don't watch Big Brother but she was expecting to be in the media just not in the way it ended up.

[Venturi Swirl]

Anyone who believes Brenda is the only person who has ever been named and shamed by the media should read “So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed” by Jon Ronson, it’s a salutary tale that we should all take heed of.

[Mr Gray]

No one can know what was in her mind at the time but I imagine having her entire life and character destroyed by the media onslaught would have been a considerable part of the reason she decided to end her life.

Of course you can carry on trying to make out it made no difference if you wish.

Her son said it was the final straw.. Which indicates, something quite minor

[Erngath]

No one can know what was in her mind at the time but I imagine having her entire life and character destroyed by the media onslaught would have been a considerable part of the reason she decided to end her life.

Of course you can carry on trying to make out it made no difference if you wish.

This is just a personal observation.
Much as I would dislike having my face and character being "destroyed"on the media, the thought of being estranged from my eldest much loved son  for years would utterly "destroy "me.

Perhaps this is the reason she had attempted suicide before.

[Sunny]

Her son said it was the final straw.. Which indicates, something quite minor

From Brunt at the inquest

Mr Brunt, a respected veteran journalist, said he ended the conversation by telling her: "I hope I have not ruined your day".

She replied: "I don't know yet if you have ruined my day or my life."

And

Mr Brunt said he spoke to her again on the phone before his report was broadcast and she told him she had "thought about ending it all".

"It was a throw-away remark," he said. "She said she was feeling better. I had no idea about her mental background or history."

I can't believe he though her saying she may kill herself was a "throw-away remark".

Hopefully Davel the above will show that it wasn't a minor thing to Brenda as any sensible person would know IMO.

[Mr Gray]

From Brunt at the inquest

Mr Brunt, a respected veteran journalist, said he ended the conversation by telling her: "I hope I have not ruined your day".

She replied: "I don't know yet if you have ruined my day or my life."

And

Mr Brunt said he spoke to her again on the phone before his report was broadcast and she told him she had "thought about ending it all".

"It was a throw-away remark," he said. "She said she was feeling better. I had no idea about her mental background or history."

I can't believe he though her saying she may kill herself was a "throw-away remark".

Hopefully Davel the above will show that it wasn't a minor thing to Brenda as any sensible person would know IMO.

According to her, son there was a lot more going on in her life... He knows more than you

[Robittybob1]

From Brunt at the inquest

Mr Brunt, a respected veteran journalist, said he ended the conversation by telling her: "I hope I have not ruined your day".

She replied: "I don't know yet if you have ruined my day or my life."

And

Mr Brunt said he spoke to her again on the phone before his report was broadcast and she told him she had "thought about ending it all".

"It was a throw-away remark," he said. "She said she was feeling better. I had no idea about her mental background or history."

I can't believe he though her saying she may kill herself was a "throw-away remark".

Hopefully Davel the above will show that it wasn't a minor thing to Brenda as any sensible person would know IMO.

Did she seek professional help at that time?

[Sunny]

Ben Leyland

He said his mother was “completely destroyed” by what had occurred.”.

[Mr Gray]

Ben Leyland

He said his mother was “completely destroyed” by what had occurred.”.

Have you ever heard those words before Re this case... Have a think... It puts them into perspective

[Sunny]

Did she seek professional help at that time?

Psychiatric help would have been needed in addition to legal help at that time. To stop the media circus that destroyed her according to her son IMO.

[Mr Gray]

Psychiatric help would have been needed in addition to legal help at that time. To stop the media circus that destroyed her according to her son IMO.

According to her son it was not the media circus which destroyed her

[Mr Gray]

Ben Leyland

He said his mother was “completely destroyed” by what had occurred.”.

It's quite odd that brenda is copying kates words in relation to amaral... How obsessed was she


She did not find that because of statements in the book, documentary and a newspaper interview Kate and Gerry had been “completely destroyed