Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?

[Sunny]

I’m not a fan of mob rule, but I am a fan of freedom of the press to report whatever they see fit, so long as it is accurate and not fanciful.  How about you?

So would social media equate to the press in your eyes as apparently you consider it "media".

[Venturi Swirl]

So would social media equate to the press in your eyes as apparently you consider it "media".

No, the press is the press, the clue’s in the name. 

[faithlilly]

I’m not a fan of mob rule, but I am a fan of freedom of the press to report whatever they see fit, so long as it is accurate and not fanciful.  How about you?

I’m a fan of legally punishing those who partake in criminal behaviour. The press should never override the function of due process and it seems that’s what you are suggesting.

[sadie]

It was a guess.  No cite needed.

There must have been thousands Rob.

I never tweeted Brendas real, or internet, name.  I just entered topics and was surprised to see a name come up .... and thinking to myself that person knows nothing about the case, meaning true facts.   Thinking why is he /she trolling and spouting out any old hating stuff.

There must have been thousands like me .... imo




ETA.  Correcting my mistake.  Thanks to Sunny

[carlymichelle]

I’m a fan of legally punishing those who partake in criminal behaviour. The press should never override the function of due process and it seems that’s what you are suggesting.

brenda  wasnt guilty of a  crime  sky news and  mcann supporters  took matters into their own hands  for revenge  imo

[Sunny]

There must have been thousands Rob.

I never tweeted Brendas real, or internet, name.  I just entered topics and was surprised to see this agressive name come up .... and thinking to myself that person knows nothing about the case, meaning true facts.   Thinking why is he /she trolling and spouting out any old hating stuff.

There must have been thousands like me .... imo

Was @sweepface the aggressive name or was it Brenda Leyland?

Are you talking about before Brenda was outed or afterwards?

Where did you see her tweets?

[Venturi Swirl]

I’m a fan of legally punishing those who partake in criminal behaviour. The press should never override the function of due process and it seems that’s what you are suggesting.

Absolute rubbish, nowhere have I suggested that.  What you seem to be suggesting is that there should be zero reporting of anyone suspected of any crime until they have been cleared or found guilty, nor any reporting of any reprehensible behaviour by anyone at all, ever, in case it interferes with due process at a later date.

[Sunny]

From my reading on twitter, Brenda's name and identity was found months before it was passed to Sky News and discussed between supporters on there.

I believe her information was passed to the police who said she hadn't broken any laws, then these same supporters and probably others decided to go to Martin Brunt and Sky News.  I wonder if it was a concerted effort between the media or simply that Martin Brunt was the only one who ran with the ball, then once he had the other media jumped on the bandwagon.  That is how it looks to me as, for example the Daily Mail had her identity very quickly.



This person knew who she was before Brenda's outing.

[Venturi Swirl]

From my reading on twitter, Brenda's name and identity was found months before it was passed to Sky News and discussed between supporters on there.

I believe her information was passed to the police who said she hadn't broken any laws, then these same supporters and probably others decided to go to Martin Brunt and Sky News.  I wonder if it was a concerted effort between the media or simply that Martin Brunt was the only one who ran with the ball, then once he had the other media jumped on the bandwagon.  That is how it looks to me as, for example the Daily Mail had her identity very quickly.



This person knew who she was before Brenda's outing.

I believe that Brenda used to tweet under her own name, using the same account. 

[sadie]

Was @sweepface the aggressive name or was it Brenda Leyland?

Are you talking about before Brenda was outed or afterwards?

Where did you see her tweets?

No, according to one site she had another name which was agressive and threatening, IMO.
[They may not have been tweets, but posts in a forum.  Where else did she post ?]

I cant remember it and dont intend to search, but if nobody finds it, I am very willing to remove my comment.  Let's give it 24 hours, shall we, to see if anyone comes up with that name and its source ? 

Please remind me and i will remove it if nothing is found.  I don't read everything on here anymore, so it would be good to pm me as well as post the reminder if you wish.



ETA:
Both this post and a previous one amended to correct my apparent mistake

[faithlilly]

Absolute rubbish, nowhere have I suggested that.  What you seem to be suggesting is that there should be zero reporting of anyone suspected of any crime until they have been cleared or found guilty, nor any reporting of any reprehensible behaviour by anyone at all, ever, in case it interferes with due process at a later date.

Tell me VS, if the parents were tried in this country of being involved in their daughter’s disappearance do you think they’d get a fair trial and if not why not ?

[Sunny]

No, according to one site she had another name which was agressive and threatening, IMO.
[They may not have been tweets, but posts in a forum.  Where else did she post ?]

I cant remember it and dont intend to search, but if nobody finds it, I am very willing to remove my comment.  Let's give it 24 hours, shall we, to see if anyone comes up with that name and its source ? 

Please remind me and i will remove it if nothing is found.  I don't read everthing on here anymore, so it would be good to pm me as well as post the reminder if you wish.

Do you or anyone else have evidence of this other name that Brenda is alleged to have used? I have read a lot of information about her but never heard of that.

I would appreciate  information and a cite on this if it is indeed true.

[Venturi Swirl]

Tell me VS, if the parents were tried in this country of being involved in their daughter’s disappearance do you think they’d get a fair trial and if not why not ?

I’m sure they would, yes.  Probably not in Portugal though.  Tell me,  should the MSM be banned from reporting on the reprehensible behaviour of others under any circumstances, if so why?

[faithlilly]

I’m sure they would, yes.  Probably not in Portugal though.  Tell me,  should the MSM be banned from reporting on the reprehensible behaviour of others under any circumstances, if so why?

When you see the almost universally negative comments under every newspaper article about the McCanns, comments from individuals some of whom would be asked to do jury duty, can you honestly say the parents would get a fair trial ? Just out of interest why do you think the parents would get a fair trial here but not in Portugal?

[Brietta]

Tell me VS, if the parents were tried in this country of being involved in their daughter’s disappearance do you think they’d get a fair trial and if not why not ?

If there was no evidence in Portugal to charge anyone with any type of offence in relation to Madeleine's disappearance ... let alone bring anyone to trial ... don't you think it is a bit presumptive of you to lust after a trial in England?