Should the Maddie enquiry be expanded?

[Robittybob1]

IMO SY are no further on than where the PJ left it when it was archived. [through lack of cooperation]

Bloody shameful.

[kizzy]

Bloody shameful.

It is - all the money that they have spent...on getting no further.

[Robittybob1]

It is - all the money that they have spent...on getting no further.

It was the lack of cooperation that upsets me.

[Angelo222]

IMO SY are no further on than where the PJ left it when it was archived. [through lack of cooperation]

I don't know why SY are even involved as it is a Portuguese matter and they will always have primacy.  There are post disappearance issues in this case which require investigating but SY have no intention of doing so.  That proves to me that their motives for investigating at all are very questionable.

[faithlilly]

Absolutely not!
I refer to the scoping exercise which was ordered by the then Home Secretary Alan Johnson after lobbying by Kate and Gerry MacCann on Madeleine's behalf.
If you remember their request was particularly difficult to resist when as a result of testimony from Ricardo Paiva  during the libel trial that information given to the Portuguese police concerning Madeleine had been filed and not investigated since her case was archived in 2008.

Two years when only the McCann PIs were looking for Madeleine McCann ... while the Portuguese police were sitting on a mine of information which had continued to be sent to them, but not passed on or acted upon by them.

Home Office launches secret review into Madeleine McCann's disappearance
By Robert Mendick9:00PM GMT 06 Mar 2010

The move follows the release of 2,000 pages of evidence last week which Portuguese detectives are accused of having failed to fully investigate.

According to sources close to the McCanns, Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, has ordered officials to examine the 'feasibility' of British or Portuguese detectives looking afresh at all the evidence.

Kate and Gerry McCann met with Mr Johnson last year to plead for help in their search for Madeleine, who vanished without trace in May 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

The couple have also met with John Yates, the Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner, who has headed up a number of high profile inquiries in recent years.

He is said to be "sympathetic" and to have made "general offers of assistance".

The source said: "The latest we have heard from the Home Office is officials are undertaking a 'scoping exercise' to look into the possibility of a review of the case.

"They are looking at all the options. It is basically a feasibility study.

"Kate and Gerry met with Alan Johnson to request a review is done. Hopefully any political intervention can unlock obstructions that might be in the way."

Pressure is now being put on Portuguese authorities to agree in the first instance to a three-day review of the case that could be held at Interpol's headquarters in Lyon in France.

The McCanns will hope the Home Office can persuade their Portuguese counterparts to co-operate in a case review.

The review – were it to go ahead – would involve British police working with Portuguese counterparts as well as experts in child abduction across other European forces.

The Portuguese police have been heavily criticised for their handling of the case which led to detectives naming the McCanns, both doctors from Leicestershire, as arguidos – or suspects – in the case and accusing them of involvement in her disappearance.

Their arguido status was subsequently lifted and the police investigation shelved.

But with the senior officer in charge Goncalo Amaral now widely discredited and facing financial ruin after being sued for libel by the McCanns over a book he wrote, it may become harder for the Portuguese to refuse the request for a thorough review.

The revelation that possible leads – many passed to Portuguese police by the McCanns' own private detectives – had apparently been ignored will add to the clamour.

Last week, details emerged of a series of possible sightings of Madeleine, who was just three when she vanished.

Guilhermino Encarnacao, who was in charge of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, died two weeks ago from stomach cancer.

Mr Encarnacao was convinced Madeleine had died in her parents' apartment and was a major source of a series of off the record briefings to journalists against the McCanns.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We can confirm that the Home Secretary had a private meeting with Kate and Gerry McCann.

"Leicestershire Police stand ready to co-ordinate and complete enquiries if further information comes to light in the UK; or if requested to do so by the Portuguese authorities, who continue to lead on the overall investigation."

The spokesman refused to discuss what talks took place at the meeting or whether there was the chance of a review of the evidence at Interpol.

The spokesman added: "We are not going to comment on the outcome of any private meeting with the McCanns."

Mr Yates was unavailable for comment. He led the cash for honours investigation and was also involved in a new inquiry into the murder of Julie Ward, who was murdered in Kenya in 1988.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7384911/Home-Office-launches-secret-review-into-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html

Ah the scoping exercise by Jim Gamble that Theresa May all but ignored.

I met Jim Gamble in a professional capacity a couple of weeks ago. Seemed a very cordial individual though I know he wasn’t universally popular within my workplace.

[Angelo222]

Ah the scoping exercise by Jim Gamble that Theresa May all but ignored.

I met Jim Gamble in a professional capacity a couple of weeks ago. Seemed a very cordial individual though I know he wasn’t universally popular within my workplace.

He has a very interesting past with the RUC Special Branch in Belfast.

[faithlilly]

He has a very interesting past with the RUC Special Branch in Belfast.

My granddad came from Belfast so we had a chat about that. He was actually quite flirty.

[Brietta]

It is - all the money that they have spent...on getting no further.

That is a rather all encompassing statement making a conclusion which it is impossible for you to know anything about.

What is it about Madeleine McCann that there is so much objection to the fact that the police are actually looking for her after a gap of years?

[Venturi Swirl]

I accept that Brietta but there isn't any new evidence in the Maddie case, SY are chasing deadends continually and getting nowhere fast.  It's embarrassing really!  In fact, I guarantee that they won't solve this case any time soon but go on spending cash all the same.

Meanwhile I'm looking forward to my trip to Faro.

When are you off?

[Mr Gray]

If I was within 100 miles of amaral... And had the opportunity
To speak with him... I absolutely  would
Angelo is going to Faro and has said he will arrange a meeting with amaral... I'm more than happy to meet both of them

[Venturi Swirl]

So, do you think the Maddie enquiry should be extended?

[Robittybob1]

So, do you think the Maddie enquiry should be extended?

Well it will be more than likely to be extended.  It is more difficult to see it extended for whatever happened wasn't really in the UK area. IMO as you can tell.

[faithlilly]

So, do you think the Maddie enquiry should be extended?

As long as there are leads to be investigated of course.

[Venturi Swirl]

As long as there are leads to be investigated of course.

Jolly good - we have found common ground.   

[Brietta]

Well it will be more than likely to be extended.  It is more difficult to see it extended for whatever happened wasn't really in the UK area. IMO as you can tell.

I don't think it could be extended much more than it has been already and I'm not sure it is necessary anyway.

The deafening silence from the investigations suggests to me that there is evidence being firmed up ... or even negotiation to get Madeleine back ... but the lack of information in the public domain does not in my opinion equate with lack of action.