Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[John]

Given the resources that the Metropolitan Police and others have ploughed into the search for Madeleine over the last decade and a half, are we any closer to understanding what happened that fateful night in Praia da Luz?

And secondly, has anyone changed their mind in the last few years as to what they may or may not have initially believed in this case?

[Mr Gray]

Given the resources that the Metropolitan Police and others have ploughed into the search for Madeleine over the last decade and a half, are we any closer to understanding what happened that fateful night in Praia da Luz?

And secondly, has anyone changed their mind in the last few years as to what they may or may not have initially believed in this case?

Grange has resulted in one rape being solved and charges laid and a trial pending on 3 more...plus 2 more charges relating to sexual crimes against children. Charges for the murder of MM to follow..

[Wonderfulspam]

Grange has resulted in one rape being solved and charges laid and a trial pending on 3 more...plus 2 more charges relating to sexual crimes against children. Charges for the murder of MM to follow..

Charges for the murder of MM to follow? You really still believe that?

[jassi]

Charges for the murder of MM to follow? You really still believe that?

Of course he does. Remember this is the man who also believed McCann would win the ECHR case

The man who is never wrong - in his own mind

[Wonderfulspam]

Given the resources that the Metropolitan Police and others have ploughed into the search for Madeleine over the last decade and a half, are we any closer to understanding what happened that fateful night in Praia da Luz?

And secondly, has anyone changed their mind in the last few years as to what they may or may not have initially believed in this case?

John, we already know what happened. Andy Redwood explained rather eloquently that um, on the evidence, that you know, that um, that, that, you know that there was a criminal act that, you know, that was undertaken by a stranger.

[John]

John, we already know what happened. Andy Redwood explained rather eloquently that um, on the evidence, that you know, that um, that, that, you know that there was a criminal act that, you know, that was undertaken by a stranger.

Aye for sure...

Redwood didn't last long after his massive dig failure in Praia da Luz. Was he really expecting to find Madeleine?

[Venturi Swirl]

Aye for sure...

Redwood didn't last long after his massive dig failure in Praia da Luz. Was he really expecting to find Madeleine?

Why not?  If the police get a tip off that someone is hidden or buried in a specific location would you expect them to ignore it?

[Brietta]

Given the resources that the Metropolitan Police and others have ploughed into the search for Madeleine over the last decade and a half, are we any closer to understanding what happened that fateful night in Praia da Luz?

And secondly, has anyone changed their mind in the last few years as to what they may or may not have initially believed in this case?

I think we have become more aware of the evil that walks among us.

Paedophile ring uncovered during McCann probe
Published Jan 19, 2009
  ... El Mundo reported in its online edition on Monday.
Police arrested 13 suspects as a result of the investigation by officials from the Barcelona-based Metodo-3 agency, which had been hired by Gerry and Kate McCann to trace their daughter Madeleine
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As well as those arrested, police questioned another 10 people and seized a large quantity of computer equipment.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/paedophile-ring-uncovered-during-mccann-probe-431690

[Wonderfulspam]

I think we have become more aware of the evil that walks among us.

Paedophile ring uncovered during McCann probe
Published Jan 19, 2009
  ... El Mundo reported in its online edition on Monday.
Police arrested 13 suspects as a result of the investigation by officials from the Barcelona-based Metodo-3 agency, which had been hired by Gerry and Kate McCann to trace their daughter Madeleine
                 ............................................................................
As well as those arrested, police questioned another 10 people and seized a large quantity of computer equipment.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/paedophile-ring-uncovered-during-mccann-probe-431690

Yes. The paedos. Raising awareness of paedos. Like Gerry was when he was ranting down the phone about the paedophile gang that had abducted Maddie, while Kate cursed about the f*cking b........s that had taken her.
It definitely wasn't staging or anything, no siree. This was the genuine reaction by the innocent parents of an abducted child & definitely not an attempt to pin the blame on paedophiles.

[Wonderfulspam]

Why not?  If the police get a tip off that someone is hidden or buried in a specific location would you expect them to ignore it?

So why didn't the MET excavate the driveway at Casa Liliana when Steven Birch gave the tip off that Maddie was buried there?  Seems they must have just ignored it.

[Mr Gray]

Of course he does. Remember this is the man who also believed McCann would win the ECHR case

The man who is never wrong - in his own mind

from someone who didnt understand the law involved.

[Mr Gray]

Aye for sure...

Redwood didn't last long after his massive dig failure in Praia da Luz. Was he really expecting to find Madeleine?

You dont seem to know much about how police investigate a crime

[Lace]

Yes. The paedos. Raising awareness of paedos. Like Gerry was when he was ranting down the phone about the paedophile gang that had abducted Maddie, while Kate cursed about the f*cking b........s that had taken her.
It definitely wasn't staging or anything, no siree. This was the genuine reaction by the innocent parents of an abducted child & definitely not an attempt to pin the blame on paedophiles.

If my child was missing and I'd heard there were Paedophile gangs in the area I would jump to the conclusion that a Paedophile had abducted my child too.  It would be the first thing that entered my head.

[G-Unit]

If my child was missing and I'd heard there were Paedophile gangs in the area I would jump to the conclusion that a Paedophile had abducted my child too.  It would be the first thing that entered my head.

Was Gerry told there were paedophile gangs in the area? He didn't show any concern when he went out every night and left his children in his unlocked accomodation.

[Wonderfulspam]

Was Gerry told there were paedophile gangs in the area? He didn't show any concern when he went out every night and left his children in his unlocked accomodation.

He must have been told after the abduction, but before he ever bothered ringing the police & telling them about the paedophile gangs.
Strange that he omitted such an important detail in his witness statement also.