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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2085 on: May 11, 2019, 07:16:24 AM »
No if I was to hazard a guess it would be that OG/PJ know most of the information.....and as things stand just now we don’t know what effect that information has had on the investigations.
Well we know they are looking at a German paedo, Amaral said so, remember?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline kizzy

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2086 on: May 11, 2019, 07:34:12 AM »
Well we know they are looking at a German paedo, Amaral said so, remember?

Yes, he did - also to make the German a scapegoat.

 Goncalo Amaral was asked outright if he had changed his theory - or opinion what had happened to Maddie

He says his theory remains the same as detailed in his book.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2087 on: May 11, 2019, 07:52:40 AM »
Yes, he did - also to make the German a scapegoat.

 Goncalo Amaral was asked outright if he had changed his theory - or opinion what had happened to Maddie

He says his theory remains the same as detailed in his book.
If that’s the case then he’s a bigger numpty than I ever thought possible.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline barrier

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2088 on: May 11, 2019, 08:07:36 AM »
If that’s the case then he’s a bigger numpty than I ever thought possible.

Still nothing to prove him wrong,hmmm.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Online Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2089 on: May 11, 2019, 08:16:01 AM »

Can we cut the, "Hmms" please.  I consider this to be Goading and Unnecessary.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2090 on: May 11, 2019, 08:18:46 AM »
Still nothing to prove him wrong,hmmm.
And that is the only reason that allows him to carry on with his TV appearances and media interviews.  He has a vested interest in never being proved wrong. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline barrier

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2091 on: May 11, 2019, 08:28:18 AM »
Can we cut the, "Hmms" please.  I consider this to be Goading and Unnecessary.

Use the force Luke,you have the power to edit.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2092 on: May 11, 2019, 08:29:00 AM »
Use the force Luke,you have the power to edit.
As do you Darth.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline barrier

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2093 on: May 11, 2019, 08:30:24 AM »
And that is the only reason that allows him to carry on with his TV appearances and media interviews.  He has a vested interest in never being proved wrong.

Perhaps he's waiting for a credible alternative to emerge the latest nonsense clearly isn't that,best imo that I suppose.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline kizzy

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2094 on: May 11, 2019, 08:36:08 AM »
If that’s the case then he’s a bigger numpty than I ever thought possible.


Well, let's not forget - he is not the one responsible for Maddie's well being.

He wasn't the one who took his children -  on an adult holiday

As for him being a numpty - why just because he doesn't believe Maddie was abducted.

Plus believes - mccns involved in Maddie's disappearance.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2095 on: May 11, 2019, 08:39:20 AM »

Well, let's not forget - he is not the one responsible for Maddie's well being.

He wasn't the one who took his children -  on an adult holiday

As for him being a numpty - why just because he doesn't believe Maddie was abducted.

Plus believes - mccns involved in Maddie's disappearance.
Strawman, strawman, because his theory is pants.  In that order.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline kizzy

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2096 on: May 11, 2019, 08:48:21 AM »
Strawman, strawman, because his theory is pants.  In that order.


Oh please - whatever is that suppose to mean VS

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2097 on: May 11, 2019, 08:58:19 AM »
Mr de Almeida also complained that Portuguese police efforts to investigate the McCanns had been frustrated by their British counterparts. “We were told that the UK would not accept any investigation of the McCanns – there was a lack of cooperation,” he said.

But later he said that the theory that the parents had covered up Madeleine’s death as outlined in Amaral’s book was one reached by British police on the ground in Portugal too.

“This wasn’t something invented by Amaral,” he insisted. “It was a conclusion reached by the team of Portuguese investigators as well as British police.”

A third witness said the turning point of the investigation came following a tearful call from Mrs McCann who, after a dream, told police where to search for her daughter’s body.

Police Inspector Ricardo Paiva, who acted as a liason between the McCanns and Portuguese police in the days following their daughter’s disappearance told the court he had received the phone call in late July 2007.

“Kate called me, she was alone as Gerry was away and she was crying,” he said. “She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there.

“She gave the impression that she thought she was dead – it was a turning point for us.”

The senior detective said the land was searched but nothing was found. “That is when we decided to send the specialist dogs in. British police informed us about how they could detect the scent of death.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6974917/Madeleine-McCanns-death-covered-up-by-parents-who-faked-kidnap-court-hears.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2098 on: May 11, 2019, 10:06:32 AM »
Mr de Almeida also complained that Portuguese police efforts to investigate the McCanns had been frustrated by their British counterparts. “We were told that the UK would not accept any investigation of the McCanns – there was a lack of cooperation,” he said.

But later he said that the theory that the parents had covered up Madeleine’s death as outlined in Amaral’s book was one reached by British police on the ground in Portugal too.

“This wasn’t something invented by Amaral,” he insisted. “It was a conclusion reached by the team of Portuguese investigators as well as British police.”

A third witness said the turning point of the investigation came following a tearful call from Mrs McCann who, after a dream, told police where to search for her daughter’s body.

Police Inspector Ricardo Paiva, who acted as a liason between the McCanns and Portuguese police in the days following their daughter’s disappearance told the court he had received the phone call in late July 2007.

“Kate called me, she was alone as Gerry was away and she was crying,” he said. “She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there.

“She gave the impression that she thought she was dead – it was a turning point for us.”

The senior detective said the land was searched but nothing was found. “That is when we decided to send the specialist dogs in. British police informed us about how they could detect the scent of death.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6974917/Madeleine-McCanns-death-covered-up-by-parents-who-faked-kidnap-court-hears.html

By Fiona Govan in Lisbon10:30PM GMT 12 Jan 2010
Update 22 July 2015: The article below was first published in 2010 and the information in it relates to information that was current at that time. For the most up to date information, please refer to this article on the ongoing search for Maddy.

Has Mark Saunokonoko's series of podcasts done anything at all but regurgitate and highlight the huge errors made in the conduct of Madeleine's case from the very start.

What is the point of this resurrection of the sheer and utter balderdash spouted by the very flawed character whose job it was to investigate what had happened to Madeleine but failed miserably.

It serves only to remind us of the useless waste of resources which were concentrated on really weird suppositions long ago dismissed as ramblings of incompetence ... and all in the midst of two properly conducted police investigations taking place now mainly because of the initial mismanagement and misdirection of 2007. 

Saunononoko's podcast attempt to give credence to Amaral's balderdash is really quite bizarre particularly as not one iota of which has been confirmed in the slightest way.

Did he ask any in depth questions of Amaral about the mechanics of how his latest theory of the old lady + the church + the crematorium was carried out ... or is that so patently ludicrous it has been airbrushed out?



http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9646.msg468509#msg468509
“The cadaver was frozen”

Correio da Manhã - What do you think happened to the body?

Gonçalo Amaral – Everything indicated that the body, after having been at a certain location, was moved into another location by car, twenty something days later. With the residues that were found inside the car, the little girl had to have been transported inside it.

How can you state that?

Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk’s right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it’s the only way to explain what happened there.

https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/07/interview-with-gonalo-amaral-cadaver.html

I don't know where all his interviews have disappeared to. I can't find a media interview in which he was asked what his next steps would have been if he'd not been taken off the case. His reply was to carry on hunting for the fridge / freezer and to get the Smiths back over. (In a later amendment of that that I posted a month or two ago, in the end he was only interested getting Martin over.)

The one I have in mind dates back to around the time of his promo tour. The nearest for the moment is this (a summary of a recent interview):

Amaral believes the only possible way her body could have been in the rental car was if it was frozen. If not, that would not explain the presence of bodily fluids, as they could have occurred if the body had begun to thaw.

Upon being asked where they could have kept a supposed freezer, Amaral says the police had information from witnesses that the couple had gone several times to another apartment in the area, located near the cemetery. Amaral had been trying to find which apartment it was around October, when he was taken off the case.


https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6l2n9g/unresolved_disappearance_10_years_later_former/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUHp85TyJ0Y

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2099 on: May 11, 2019, 10:10:32 AM »
MS talks about reading the emails back and forth between police -  re the reconstruction from Tapas 7 

AND them not attending and he can't help wondering - where was the concern for Maddie was in all of this'

Well IMO - that sounds about right - no concern at all.