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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2535 on: May 16, 2019, 09:49:15 AM »
It's not my habit to insult people, but can you see the word confirmation? It means confirmed. The quote is from Grime's rogatory reply.


In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

Thats fine...so grime is talking about confirmation...not corroboration......so whan grime says ...in this case...what is he talking about....and what does he mean by confirmed ......the lerts need to be corroborated

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2536 on: May 16, 2019, 09:57:21 AM »
this is a direct quote from grimes witness statement..



The dogs only alerted to property associated with the McCann family. The dog
alert indications MUST be corroborated if to establish their findings as
evidence.

Therefore in this particular case, as no human remains were located, the only
alert indications that may become corroborated are those that the CSI dog
indicated by forensic laboratory analysis.




so he is stating clearly that the CSI alerts...may become corrobortaed.....which means they are not yet corroborated...


so are posters taking confirmed as meaning corroborated....waht is meant by confirmed



www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2537 on: May 16, 2019, 10:02:28 AM »
It's not my habit to insult people, but can you see the word confirmation? It means confirmed. The quote is from Grime's rogatory reply.


In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

What were those Positive Results?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2538 on: May 16, 2019, 10:08:10 AM »
Thats fine...so grime is talking about confirmation...not corroboration......so whan grime says ...in this case...what is he talking about....and what does he mean by confirmed ......the lerts need to be corroborated
Same thing IMO  Confirmed = corroborated
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2539 on: May 16, 2019, 10:10:43 AM »
Same thing IMO  Confirmed = corroborated

if that is the case then Grime is contradicting himself...so  dont accept that

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2540 on: May 16, 2019, 10:19:01 AM »
Did you miss this one?

In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

the cite you have given says...where the dogs(plural) alerted...there was confirmation by positive results..


If you want to beleive hat confirmation equals corroboration.....then grime is saying both dogs alerts are corroborated...that clearly  is not true.....

confirmation cannot equal coroborrtaion

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2541 on: May 16, 2019, 10:25:13 AM »
Thats fine...so grime is talking about confirmation...not corroboration......so whan grime says ...in this case...what is he talking about....and what does he mean by confirmed ......the lerts need to be corroborated

They mean the same, Davel.

corroberation meaning;

evidence which confirms or supports a statement, theory, or finding; confirmation.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=MCrdXIueCMTZxgPBoYvgCA&q=corroboration+meaning&oq=corrobertion&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i13l10.227739.237088..241386...2.0..0.329.3470.2j24j0j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i22i30j0i67j0j0i131j0i67i70i249j0i10j0i10i70i249.0yy7e802xXE
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2542 on: May 16, 2019, 10:31:58 AM »
They mean the same, Davel.

corroberation meaning;

evidence which confirms or supports a statement, theory, or finding; confirmation.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=MCrdXIueCMTZxgPBoYvgCA&q=corroboration+meaning&oq=corrobertion&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i13l10.227739.237088..241386...2.0..0.329.3470.2j24j0j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i22i30j0i67j0j0i131j0i67i70i249j0i10j0i10i70i249.0yy7e802xXE

we cant assume Grime is using them interchangably......if he is then he is saying the cadaver alerts are corroborated...which is patently absurd...


MS is using them as meaning the same thing...as afar s grime is concerned ...that CANNOT be true


looks like MS is making the same mistake as you are...


Grime does say in his rog....the alerts are confirmed by the recovery of evidence
Grime says in his statement the alerts are not corroborated..

that proves me right and you and MS wrong
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2543 on: May 16, 2019, 10:38:51 AM »
What were those Positive Results?

DNA
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2544 on: May 16, 2019, 10:40:05 AM »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2545 on: May 16, 2019, 10:41:03 AM »
DNA

either Grime is confused...chainging his mind...and doesnt know what hes talking about...or to him...confirmed does not mean corroborated....Ill go with the latter

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2546 on: May 16, 2019, 11:53:55 AM »
Whose DNA?

Does it matter? Dog says 'look there', people do it and find evidence, Dog was correct.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2547 on: May 16, 2019, 11:58:11 AM »
Does it matter? Dog says 'look there', people do it and find evidence, Dog was correct.

It matters to me.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2548 on: May 16, 2019, 12:02:09 PM »
we cant assume Grime is using them interchangably......if he is then he is saying the cadaver alerts are corroborated...which is patently absurd...


MS is using them as meaning the same thing...as afar s grime is concerned ...that CANNOT be true


looks like MS is making the same mistake as you are...


Grime does say in his rog....the alerts are confirmed by the recovery of evidence
Grime says in his statement the alerts are not corroborated..

that proves me right and you and MS wrong

In my opinion you are wrong. Keela alerted and evidence was recovered from the places where she alerted.  Her alerts were , therefore, confirmed, corroberated, verified, endorsed, ratified, validated, or certified. Grime's choice of words are immaterial.
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« Reply #2549 on: May 16, 2019, 12:05:08 PM »
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