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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3855 on: June 04, 2019, 10:04:01 PM »
And what was he doing there?  Was he still there on the 3rd?
This is what I found. https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13570-the-important-people-who-rushed-out-to-praia-da-luz-after-3-may-2007-and-by-friday-11-may-2007

"Mark Warner brought in Resonate on a generic brief a week before three-year-old Madeleine McCann was kidnapped from its Portuguese resort in Praia da Luz. MD Michael Froh­lich then referred the firm to his parent company’s crisis specialist.

Frohlich and Resonate dir­ector Tricia Moon are helping liaise with the British Consulate in Portugal, the Portuguese Police and the Portuguese and UK media.

They are working with staff at Mark Warner’s Kensington headquarters.

Read more at http://www.prweek.com/article/656479/mark-warner-hires-bell-pottinger#urR4H5cRF6rm6uPU.99"
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Offline sadie

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3856 on: June 04, 2019, 10:56:44 PM »
This is what I found. https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13570-the-important-people-who-rushed-out-to-praia-da-luz-after-3-may-2007-and-by-friday-11-may-2007

"Mark Warner brought in Resonate on a generic brief a week before three-year-old Madeleine McCann was kidnapped from its Portuguese resort in Praia da Luz. MD Michael Froh­lich then referred the firm to his parent company’s crisis specialist.

Frohlich and Resonate dir­ector Tricia Moon are helping liaise with the British Consulate in Portugal, the Portuguese Police and the Portuguese and UK media.

They are working with staff at Mark Warner’s Kensington headquarters.

Read more at http://www.prweek.com/article/656479/mark-warner-hires-bell-pottinger#urR4H5cRF6rm6uPU.99"

And, of course, two of the three OC owners David Symington and ? Garveigh were away and out of contact, privately sailing the Caribbean, according to reports in the early days.  When did they leave, anyone know?

Could that have been arranged by Bell Pottinger?  Crisis management?  Keep them off the scene


This 'sailing the Caribbean' has been gone over before and information appears to have been wiped from the internet now.

Robin Crosland, also an owner according to the internet [was it in the wonderful newsy 'The Sargents Blog ?'] was left holding the fort

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3857 on: June 05, 2019, 07:34:03 AM »
And, of course, two of the three OC owners David Symington and ? Garveigh were away and out of contact, privately sailing the Caribbean, according to reports in the early days.  When did they leave, anyone know?

Could that have been arranged by Bell Pottinger?  Crisis management?  Keep them off the scene


This 'sailing the Caribbean' has been gone over before and information appears to have been wiped from the internet now.

Robin Crosland, also an owner according to the internet [was it in the wonderful newsy 'The Sargents Blog ?'] was left holding the fort

The three owners of the Ocean Club had sold it to Mark Warner. Crossland, being younger than the other two, had agreed to wotk for Mark Warner for at least two years in order to ease the transition.

So as David Symington and John Garveigh were no longer involved in the Ocean Club why would there be any need to 'keep them off the scene'?

Crossland wasn't 'holding the fort', he was doing the job he had contracted to do for Mark Warner.

I think anything else is just part of the speculation and rumour which has been rife from the beginning of the case.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBIN_CROSSLAND.htm
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3858 on: June 05, 2019, 09:18:00 AM »
The three owners of the Ocean Club had sold it to Mark Warner. Crossland, being younger than the other two, had agreed to wotk for Mark Warner for at least two years in order to ease the transition.

So as David Symington and John Garveigh were no longer involved in the Ocean Club why would there be any need to 'keep them off the scene'?

Crossland wasn't 'holding the fort', he was doing the job he had contracted to do for Mark Warner.

I think anything else is just part of the speculation and rumour which has been rife from the beginning of the case.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBIN_CROSSLAND.htm
These rumours are news to me!
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Offline Carana

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3859 on: June 05, 2019, 09:54:12 AM »
Badabing. Waddayagadadoo?
Michael Frolich, Head of Resonate, subsidiary of international PR company Bell Pottinger was already there by Monday 30 April.

Cite?

The name means nothing to me.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3860 on: June 05, 2019, 10:38:49 AM »
These rumours are news to me!

They were to me too.(see Sadie's post)
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10605.msg533346#msg533346

The Portugal Resident seemed unaware that the resort had been sold. They mentioned Symington and Garveigh being out of the country.
https://www.portugalresident.com/2007/05/09/resort-helps-family/
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3861 on: June 05, 2019, 12:49:39 PM »
They were to me too.(see Sadie's post)
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10605.msg533346#msg533346

The Portugal Resident seemed unaware that the resort had been sold. They mentioned Symington and Garveigh being out of the country.
https://www.portugalresident.com/2007/05/09/resort-helps-family/
Crisis Management seems to spin around in my head.  Who's got the crisis?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3862 on: June 05, 2019, 01:35:08 PM »
Crisis Management seems to spin around in my head.  Who's got the crisis?

Alex Woolfall was Bell Pottinger's crisis manager. He was there primarily to protect Mark Warner's reputation. From anything the McCanns might say? Was he helping them or keeping an eye on them?

He now has his own crisis management company;
https://alexwoolfall.com/
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3863 on: June 05, 2019, 09:51:42 PM »
Alex Woolfall was Bell Pottinger's crisis manager. He was there primarily to protect Mark Warner's reputation. From anything the McCanns might say? Was he helping them or keeping an eye on them?

He now has his own crisis management company;
https://alexwoolfall.com/
I feel so sceptical about that really.  So the firm that calls in the crisis management team appoint their person as your spokesperson.  There is no independence there. 

That would be like you getting a divorce and your spouse appointing her friend as your solicitor.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3864 on: June 06, 2019, 08:37:55 AM »
I feel so sceptical about that really.  So the firm that calls in the crisis management team appoint their person as your spokesperson.  There is no independence there. 

That would be like you getting a divorce and your spouse appointing her friend as your solicitor.

He wasn't acting for the McCanns when he told them that the twins could no longer use the creche. Kate was so upset for them;

"Poor Amelie and Sean. They were the ones who would suffer. We’d tried so hard to provide them with stability, to make sure they had other children to play with and lots of activity, and now even this was to be taken away from them" [madeleine Kare McCann]

I can't help but comment on that passage. As I understand it Mark Warner had been allowing the twins to attend the creche ever since Madeleine's disappearance three months earlier. I see nothing in Kate's book suggesting that she and her husband had needed to put any effort into persuading them to do that.

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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3865 on: June 06, 2019, 09:24:09 PM »
He wasn't acting for the McCanns when he told them that the twins could no longer use the creche. Kate was so upset for them;

"Poor Amelie and Sean. They were the ones who would suffer. We’d tried so hard to provide them with stability, to make sure they had other children to play with and lots of activity, and now even this was to be taken away from them" [madeleine Kare McCann]

I can't help but comment on that passage. As I understand it Mark Warner had been allowing the twins to attend the creche ever since Madeleine's disappearance three months earlier. I see nothing in Kate's book suggesting that she and her husband had needed to put any effort into persuading them to do that.

Or indeed paying for it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3866 on: June 06, 2019, 09:44:16 PM »
Or indeed paying for it.
The question as to who should pay for the accommodation (for quite a few people) and child care could be discussed.  OC was in the process of being sold to MW as I understand, so there was an advantage to solve the issue.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3867 on: June 06, 2019, 10:07:45 PM »
The question as to who should pay for the accommodation (for quite a few people) and child care could be discussed.  OC was in the process of being sold to MW as I understand, so there was an advantage to solve the issue.

The OC had been sold. The contract had been signed. Mark Warner were the owners. I have to say that I have never heard the McCanns express any gratitude for what Mark Warner did for them; perhaps I missed that?
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #3868 on: June 06, 2019, 10:10:32 PM »
The OC had been sold. The contract had been signed. Mark Warner were the owners. I have to say that I have never heard the McCanns express any gratitude for what Mark Warner did for them; perhaps I missed that?
OK had it progressed that far.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #3869 on: June 06, 2019, 10:12:30 PM »
So some think that The McCanns should have been [dried] denied access to The Creche for the twins.  How utterly pathetic.
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