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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4545 on: June 14, 2019, 09:36:25 PM »
What do you think forensic laboratory analysis means?

I asked for  a cite Rob.....please provide as per forum rules..the words you quoted clearly apply to the csi dog...not the cadaver dog...

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4546 on: June 14, 2019, 09:39:29 PM »
I asked for  a cite Rob.....please provide as per forum rules..the words you quoted clearly apply to the csi dog...not the cadaver dog
forensic laboratory analysis means looking for human DNA.    Your cite could well be my cite as well. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4547 on: June 14, 2019, 09:40:00 PM »
Absolutely not. @2:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFL6Jown0LE

There's no doubt about it.

They didn't know if they were going to get into the Tapas that night? As they were booked in for the week how could that have happened?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4548 on: June 14, 2019, 09:41:03 PM »
forensic laboratory analysis means looking for human DNA.    Your cite could well be my cite as well.

that quote refers to the CSI dog rob...NOT the cadaver dog...so you have still failed to provide  a cite...as i expected

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4549 on: June 14, 2019, 09:43:04 PM »
My mistake. She wasn't with Ben when he disappeared, she was at work.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4550 on: June 14, 2019, 09:43:44 PM »
"Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc. "
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4551 on: June 14, 2019, 09:48:27 PM »
"Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc. "
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

dna etc...not just dna...dna on its own does not corrobortae a cadaver alert...grime is quite clear on this...perhaps you could expalin how dna would confirm death
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4552 on: June 14, 2019, 09:56:28 PM »
dna etc...not just dna...dna on its own does not corrobortae a cadaver alert...grime is quite clear on this...perhaps you could expalin how dna would confirm death
I never claimed a cadaver alert  confirms death.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4553 on: June 14, 2019, 09:59:04 PM »
dna etc...not just dna...dna on its own does not corrobortae a cadaver alert...grime is quite clear on this...perhaps you could expalin how dna would confirm death
I was exploring the meaning of "etc" in the thread on corroborating evidence.  What did he mean "DNA, etc"?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4554 on: June 14, 2019, 10:06:09 PM »
I never claimed a cadaver alert  confirms death.

i said could you expalin how dna confirms a cadaver alert

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4555 on: June 14, 2019, 10:08:04 PM »
I was exploring the meaning of "etc" in the thread on corroborating evidence.  What did he mean "DNA, etc"?

Grime said human remains...dna would tell us whose remains they were

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4556 on: June 14, 2019, 10:17:28 PM »
Grime said human remains...dna would tell us whose remains they were
There is no scientific test for cadaver odour.
"Therefore in this particular case, as no human remains were located, the only
alert indications that may become corroborated are those that the CSI dog
indicated by forensic laboratory analysis."

It is a chain of events If the cadaver dog alerts and in that area the CSI dog alerts, and that spot is forensically analysed, and DNA is found.  That seems to be what MG would call corroborated. 

OK you and I might think differently.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4557 on: June 14, 2019, 10:28:12 PM »
There is no scientific test for cadaver odour.
"Therefore in this particular case, as no human remains were located, the only
alert indications that may become corroborated are those that the CSI dog
indicated by forensic laboratory analysis."

It is a chain of events If the cadaver dog alerts and in that area the CSI dog alerts, and that spot is forensically analysed, and DNA is found.  That seems to be what MG would call corroborated. 

OK you and I might think differently.

I dont see how dna corrobortaes cadaver odour and I dont think grime thinks it does either

Offline Brietta

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4558 on: June 14, 2019, 10:31:34 PM »
I'll try again. do you think it was possible for Kate and Gerry McCann to be under the impression they mighten get into the tapas on Thursday May 3?

If you do not wish to answer, that's fine.

I have already given you my answer.  Consider it reiterated.  Draw a line under it now or I may begin to think you are harassing me just because you think you can ... which just is not so.
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Offline sadie

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #4559 on: June 14, 2019, 11:26:44 PM »

The quote below has now been wiped for some reason, but it  is mentioned in Gunits post a little later


Quote from: Cheeky Monkey on Today at 09:13:49 PM

    Absolutely not. @2:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFL6Jown0LE

    There's no doubt about it


- Finish Quote



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFL6Jown0LE



Starting @ 0.36, Is that Kates voice or another voice dubbed in?

Seems too high pitched and the mouth sometimes seems not to syncraniize with the words.

My hubby, like me, instantly thought that it ddn't sound likke Kate



Am I right or am I wrong ?    What do others think?