Author Topic: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.  (Read 267263 times)

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #615 on: October 31, 2013, 11:07:32 AM »
Smithman isn't in the key sightings section of Kate's book. Nothing they say can satisfactorily explain this vital oversight. A man seen with a child at 10pm just after Madeleine was reported missing only 450 metres away from the apartment. Madeleine disappeared and it seems some wanted Smithman to also disappear! He was always the number 1 suspect IMO and definitely the number 1 suspect for many others now because of the McCann's own evasive actions.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Benice

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #616 on: October 31, 2013, 11:07:48 AM »
No , it is you not dealing with the issue, as you clearly support the mccanns; left, right and centre.

The bottom line remains the same.

The tax-payer is forking out for 2 incompetent parents, and there is no getting away from that.

Wrong.   The taxpayer is paying out to find Madeleine  - who SY think may still be alive.   The fact that you would dearly love them to stop searching for that little girl says it all IMO.

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #617 on: October 31, 2013, 11:11:07 AM »
Wrong.   The taxpayer is paying out to find Madeleine  - who SY think may still be alive.   The fact that you would dearly love them to stop searching for that little girl says it all IMO.

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stephen25000

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #618 on: October 31, 2013, 11:13:52 AM »
you see now we are coming to the truth - YOU object to it because you consider they were incompetent parents.

All the other reasons you gave are just irrelevant.

I support the Mccanns in the search for a resolution to this case - is that clear enough for you?

No, you clearly support the Mccanns no matter the circumstances and what they failed to do.

Also, why as a tax-payer should I continue to pay for someone else's incompetence /

Answer that.

Offline imustpointout

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #619 on: October 31, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »
Smithman isn't in the key sightings section of Kate's book. Nothing they say can satisfactorily explain this vital oversight. A man seen with a child at 10pm just after Madeleine was reported missing only 450 metres away from the apartment. Madeleine disappeared and it seems some wanted Smithman to also disappear! He was always the number 1 suspect IMO and definitely the number 1 suspect for many others now because of the McCann's own evasive actions.

How much attention is given to "Smithman" in the released files?

You know the official Police investigation - not a book!

stephen25000

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #620 on: October 31, 2013, 11:15:44 AM »
Wrong.   The taxpayer is paying out to find Madeleine  - who SY think may still be alive.   The fact that you would dearly love them to stop searching for that little girl says it all IMO.

(awaits the usual mantra)

So why haven't they donated the money from the fund and the book sales to the SY investigation /

That is what the money was supposed to be for.

Aiofe

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #621 on: October 31, 2013, 11:18:33 AM »
So why haven't they donated the money from the fund and the book sales to the SY investigation /

That is what the money was supposed to be for.

No it was not.

You really don't do truth do you?

stephen25000

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #622 on: October 31, 2013, 11:22:06 AM »
No it was not.

You really don't do truth do you?

Yes the real truth, 13% on the 'search'.

The rest,  NOW YOU TELL ME.

LIKEWISE, WHY HAVEN'T THEY TRANSFERRED THE FUND, ETC, TO THE SY INVESTIGATION ?

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Offline Montclair

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #623 on: October 31, 2013, 11:25:53 AM »
It did happen.  And Leonor Cipriano wasn't the only one.  It was common practice when The PJ couldn't get a confession.

The only valid confession in Portuguese law is the one made in a court room in front of the judge. Any other confessions made at the earlier stages of an investigation are only valid if the defendent confirms it during the trial before the judge. Therefore, why beat a confession out of a suspect when all he/she has to do is retract or remain silent during the trial.
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Aiofe

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #624 on: October 31, 2013, 11:26:40 AM »
Yes the real truth, 13% on the 'search'.

The rest,  NOW YOU TELL ME.

Please justify your 13% claim- I think you will find it is doubtful that this is the case and depends on a biased analysis.

That aside, your reply is mere deflection.

Your statement was:

"So why haven't they donated the money from the fund and the book sales to the SY investigation /

That is what the money was supposed to be for"

Please justify this statement. Where does it say that the fund is meant to subsidise the SY investigation?

Aiofe

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #625 on: October 31, 2013, 11:27:47 AM »
The only valid confession in Portuguese law is the one made in a court room in front of the judge. Any other confessions made at the earlier stages of an investigation are only valid if the defendent confirms it during the trial before the judge. Therefore, beating a confession out of a suspect is useless.

Are you sure that that is not a convenient myth.

Offline Montclair

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #626 on: October 31, 2013, 11:30:07 AM »
Are you sure that that is not a convenient myth.

It's the law. Santa paciência! BTW, Leonor's bother João confessed in court during the trial.

stephen25000

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #627 on: October 31, 2013, 11:31:35 AM »
Please justify your 13% claim- I think you will find it is doubtful that this is the case and depends on a biased analysis.

That aside, your reply is mere deflection.

Your statement was:

"So why haven't they donated the money from the fund and the book sales to the SY investigation /

That is what the money was supposed to be for"

Please justify this statement. Where does it say that the fund is meant to subsidise the SY investigation?

The 13% comes from the accounts. Well documented.

Why the hell shouldn't the money be donated to the investigation ?

That was what it was supposed to be for in the first place ie. the 'search' so called, for Madeleine.

 

AnneGuedes

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #628 on: October 31, 2013, 11:32:23 AM »
It's the law. Santa paciência! BTW, Leonor's bother João confessed in court during the trial.
Santa, yes, and what an amazing lot of it !

Aiofe

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #629 on: October 31, 2013, 11:33:37 AM »
It's the law. Santa paciência! BTW, Leonor's bother João confessed in court during the trial.

Are you telling me that if someone confesses to a crime to the investigators, and then refuses to do so before the judge, then the confession is excluded from evidence.

Are there any penalties for making a confession and then withdrawing it.

Interested to be educated in the facts by references if you have them.