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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #630 on: October 31, 2013, 11:36:29 AM »
The 13% comes from the accounts. Well documented.

Why the hell shouldn't the money be donated to the investigation ?

That was what it was supposed to be for in the first place ie. the 'search' so called, for Madeleine.

 

A fund to find Madeleine.

Is that not what Scotland Yard are trying to do?

Or are they sardine munching & enjoying long boozy lunches with their Portuguese associates?
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AnneGuedes

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #631 on: October 31, 2013, 11:37:47 AM »

Why the hell shouldn't the money be donated to the investigation ?

Why on earth should they spend money on serious investigation when they can spend it on crooked one ?

Offline imustpointout

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #632 on: October 31, 2013, 11:37:54 AM »
The 13% comes from the accounts. Well documented.

Why the hell shouldn't the money be donated to the investigation ?

That was what it was supposed to be for in the first place ie. the 'search' so called, for Madeleine.

If that happened would you consider the investigation to be impartial and independent?

Are you aware if it is even legal for somebody to effectively pay for, or contribute to, a Police investigation in the UK?

ETA - I am aware that the Police  are paid for patrolling sports event setc.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 11:40:36 AM by imustpointout »

Cariad

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #633 on: October 31, 2013, 11:39:39 AM »
The same appeals for help were made to the public over April Jones.  Are you saying that shouldn't have happened.

A fund was also set up for April Jones for donations which the public wanted to make.   Are you saying that made April's parents public property?

The fact that there was a collossal response to Madeleine's disappearance by the public who wished to make donations was not the McCanns nor Madeleine's fault.

There came a point where they had to do something about the donations -  and with it being totally alien territory to them, and probably because they were in the middle of nightmare at the time - they went along with the advice given to them by the experts.    What is there to criticise in that?     
 

They gave that money to a little girl in Africa to improve her life!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/funds-memory-april-jones-sponsor-6092936

It really, really annoys me when people try to compare the behaviour of the Mccanns with Coral and Paul Jones!

This thread is about suppression of information that could have helped a little girl be released from the clutches of a paedophile ring!

Why are you all deflecting?

Offline Montclair

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #634 on: October 31, 2013, 11:40:17 AM »
Are you telling me that if someone confesses to a crime to the investigators, and then refuses to do so before the judge, then the confession is excluded from evidence.

Are there any penalties for making a confession and then withdrawing it.

Interested to be educated in the facts by references if you have them.

Unfortunately, that is the law but I believe that the current Minister of Justice wants to change it. There was a case where a man confessed to a crime (I think murder) to the police but during his trial he remained silent, he didn't even retract his confession and the judge had to acquit him.
Therefore, confessions not confirmed in front the judge are excluded from the evidence and there are no penalties against the suspects if they retract. It is within their rights. These laws are a consequence of Portugal having lived 48 years under a dictatorship where the PIDE beat confessions out of political prisoners and which were the only evidence presented to the court afterwards.

AnneGuedes

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Aiofe

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AnneGuedes

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #637 on: October 31, 2013, 11:48:38 AM »
In English please, at least a translation of the relevant clauses.
Sorry, I sent an erroneous link, I rectified in the post above.
http://translate.google.fr/

stephen25000

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #638 on: October 31, 2013, 11:49:20 AM »
If that happened would you consider the investigation to be impartial and independent?

Are you aware if it is even legal for somebody to effectively pay for, or contribute to, a Police investigation in the UK?

ETA - I am aware that the Police  are paid for patrolling sports event setc.

Well if they can't, they can donate the money to missing peoples' charities.

Offline imustpointout

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #639 on: October 31, 2013, 11:51:01 AM »
Well if they can't, they can donate the money to missing peoples' charities.

I believe they have said they will do something like that when the case is closed.

Aiofe

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #640 on: October 31, 2013, 11:57:43 AM »
Sorry, I sent an erroneous link, I rectified in the post above.
http://translate.google.fr/

Still 555 pages of Portuguese.

Offline imustpointout

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #641 on: October 31, 2013, 12:01:11 PM »
Well if they can't, they can donate the money to missing peoples' charities.

see my earlier post and I will add that they have/are both raising money for charities, but every time they do they are ridiculed.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #642 on: October 31, 2013, 12:04:11 PM »
see my earlier post and I will add that they have/are both raising money for charities, but every time they do they are ridiculed.

Jimmy Savile raised money for good causes aswell didn't he.
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stephen25000

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #643 on: October 31, 2013, 12:08:00 PM »
I believe they have said they will do something like that when the case is closed.

So why do they need the money for now ?

They aren't paying PI's anymore.

Or is it for their ongoing legal expenses ?

Offline imustpointout

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #644 on: October 31, 2013, 12:09:01 PM »
Jimmy Savile raised money for good causes aswell didn't he.

completely irrelevant to the discussion that I was having with stephen.

In fact completely irrelevant to anything on this forum.