Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.

[faithlilly]

Old story from the Mail 23 August 2008

Among the main players working on the McCann contract were Mr Halligen and Henri Exton, 57, who headed the Greater Manchester Police undercover unit until 1993. He then worked for the Government before moving into the private sector.

One day after a crisis meeting last week with the Madeleine fund administrators, Mr Halligen resigned as a director of RDI.

Mr Exton, of Bury, Lancashire, has the Queen’s Police Medal and an OBE. During the Seventies and Eighties his work included uncovering organised crime rings and recruiting supergrasses.

He also infiltrated football gangs, at one stage becoming a leader of the Young Guvnors, who followed Manchester City, and was forced to take part in organised incidents to preserve his cover.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id275.html

An OBE no less. Doesn't sound like the kind of professional who'd be telling untruths to the media, now does he ?

[icabodcrane]

An OBE no less. Doesn't sound like the kind of professional who'd be telling untruths to the media, now does he ?

And not the sort of bloke the papers would  name as a  'source'   unless he  was  

[faithlilly]

And not the sort of bloke the papers would  name as a  'source'   unless he  was

Absolutely Icabod.

[icabodcrane]

As far as I can see, no-one has given a  logical or reasonable explanation for rejecting The Times  article  ...  which appears to be a well sourced piece of investigative journalism

[Aiofe]

As far as I can see, no-one has given a  logical or reasonable explanation for rejecting The Times  article  ...  which appears to be a well sourced piece of investigative journalism

Which, like all journalism may be partially correct.

There may well be (and probably certainly are) other facts as yet unknown about the story.

[Apostate]

As far as I can see, no-one has given a  logical or reasonable explanation for rejecting The Times  article  ...  which appears to be a well sourced piece of investigative journalism

bomb proof - let's face it it's true

[Aiofe]

bomb proof - let's face it it's true

Unless there are communications not known to the Times or to us.

[Mr Gray]

And not the sort of bloke the papers would  name as a  'source'   unless he  was

Jimmy Saville was knighted...an OBE doesn't confirm anything

[Mr Gray]

So no on has been able to refute the fact that the times was wrong...

 They were led by Henri Exton, MI5’s former undercover operations chief.

so is the Times article an accurate piece of investigative journalism ?  I think we all know its aload of rubbish

If you want to believe it that's up to you but if its wrong it means all your conclusions are wrong.

[BigFatBlonde]

so is the Times article an accurate piece of investigative journalism ?  I think we all know its aload of rubbish

If you want to believe it that's up to you but if its wrong it means all your conclusions are wrong.

davel bringing you sweeping statements and oversimplifications since 1985 

[imustpointout]

davel bringing you sweeping statements and oversimplifications since 1985 

Another comment about a poster and not the topic.

[imustpointout]

so not looking so clever for The Times (in various titles) is it.

[Apostate]

So no on has been able to refute the fact that the times was wrong...

Actually noone's said it was wrong so nothing to refute. It's true and we all know it.

[Benice]

Actually noone's said it was wrong so nothing to refute. It's true and we all know it.

So do you accept as true the assertion that Mr. Smith has stressed that he no longer regards Gerry as the man he saw?

[stephen25000]

So do you accept as true the assertion that Mr. Smith has stressed that he no longer regards Gerry as the man he saw?

Do we have that from Mr. Smith's lips ?